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he delivers a major policy speech, and then meanwhile trump is comparing what he thinks will happen on election day to the historic brexit vote in the united kingdom a few months ago, and here's what he told folks at a rally yesterday. >> it's a rigged system. don't ever forget it, and that's why you have to get out and vote and you have to watch because this system is totally rigged. you must get out to vote. we will win, we will shock the world, and this is going to be brexit plus -- [ cheering ] brexit plus. a lot of people know it. they say we can't poll this thing. >> and a day after trading barbs, hillary clinton, this is
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what she said yesterday. >> that was the third and last time that i will ever have to debate donald trump. i have now spent 4 1/2 hours onstage with donald proving once again i have the stamina to be president -- >> as president obama gets ready to go back on the trail for clinton tomorrow, biden is expressing his outrage over tru trump's comments about women. here's what the vice president said for a rally in pennsylvania yesterday. >> he said because i am famous, because i am a star, because i'm a billionaire, i can do things other people can't. what a disgusting assertion for
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anybody to make. the press always asked me, don't i wish i were debating him. no, i wish we were in high school and i could take him behind a gym. that's what i wish. >> they will focus their get out the vote focus, and two rallies in pennsylvania, while former president bill clinton stumps in florida, and once donald trump wraps up his speech in gettysburg, he will head to cleveland, among his other stops to the day and that's where we find jacob rascon. donald trump talking about a new movement, bigger than the polls he says, and can you tell us what he plans to share at today's gettysburg rally, is it closed to the public? >> reporter: his aides are promising a new trump, a positive vision and road map with new policy details which they did not go into and they said would be revealed later
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this morning, and he's going to give the address with abe lincoln and unity in mind, they say. >> reporter: and so in this address later this morning, it's an 11:00 speech that is close to the public, as you mentioned, and we know it has been a blistering couple of weeks on the campaign trail and last night on this conference call, his aids said, no, expect a different tone from donald trump, a closing argument, if you will. this comes in the wake of a lot of talk about rigging the election and whether he will accept the outcome of the election, and that latest poll is resonating with republicans. 4 in 10 republicans say they
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would agree with trump that they may accept the outcome of the election, and i would mention just as we are talking about the positive vision and road map, this morning donald trump retweeted a couple of people, and one of them is young democrats for trump tweeted out a message about hillary clinton, calling her demonic, and that will be one of three events he holds later today, and he will be in ohio tonight. >> let's bring in our panel this morning. we have with us gabby, and a media reporter. gabby, let me begin with you about today's speech, particularly the gettysburg address, if you will, and talk to us what you expect and which
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trump will show up, and we were hearing about a trump that would strike a new positive note and then we saw the retweeting the bitter commentary we have been hearing from trump traditionally? >> as jacob mentioned, he called reporters and he told many of us he will drive ten points driving his candidacy, and they would not give us specifics on what that might be and he is going to strike a positive message. what i am looking for in this speech is to see whether or not he sticks to that positive tone, and whether he outlines a positive message and an optimistic and welcoming message for americans or whether he continues to talk about the rigged election, voter fraud and all of the things that caused a headache for his campaign in the last two or so weeks. >> what do you make of the timing of the speech in terms of
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the really tough couple of weeks that trump had with some of the comments, and what are you expecting to hear? >> just two weeks before election day, as jacob was noting, there's going to be somehow a new trump and this has been a constant theme throughout the election, there are almost two trumps, a forward-looking trump and one that punches back at the attacks and leveling accusations, which in any other cycle would be the headline, and now we are shrugging at the tweet of him calling his opposition demonic. he is behind in florida but he should try and catch up and it's his second home, and so he is planning a seven-city tour in florida next week and that may hopefully help him out a little in that state. >> trump has been campaigning nonstop since the debate ended
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and he said he is going all the way up until election day and not going to stop. what does this say about his particular strategy here in terms of is he, you know, trying to reinforce his message? is he trying to catchup? is it too little too late to have so many events in the final stretch? >> he had three rallies today and three yesterday and will probably keep up a similar strategy in florida, and the strategy, trump thinks the more time he spends in front of his supporters will generate enthusiasm and get them to get out and vote, and it's a different strategy than hillary, they think she does better when she is not out on the campaign every day, and he is prone to
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saying things at rallies that get him in trouble, and if he is doing three campaign rallies a day, that's ample opportunity for him to say something that will generate over the next few days. >> and let's bring in casey who is live in white plains. tell us about the latest fallout on the clinton campaigns, particularly on the stolen e-mails. >> reporter: we are waiting to see what we might get today if anything additional, and the campaign mostly focused on some of the e-mails that have come out and shown dissent on the left in particular, and how they talked about running against bernie sanders, and about progressives, and at different points saying progressives were potentially freaks and did not understand what was going on and that is something that could
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potentially continue into past the election as something that potentially divides liberals from the most center right of the party, if you will, but at this point the campaign is pretty used to dealing with this now, and we have had a week plus of new e-mails every day, and there's a sense in the clinton campaign that it understands what might come out next and what they might see between now and election day and it's a question of continuing to campaign through it, if you will, which is what hillary clinton was doing yesterday and what she is planning on doing today, and she is going to be in pittsburgh and philadelphia, and then heads to north carolina. >> let's talk about what she plans on saying in terms of pittsburgh, philadelphia today, and what do you think his focus will be while campaigning with tim kaine? >> a lot of what we heard from her in the last few days is pushing back on the idea that the election is rigged.
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she was in cleveland last night speaking to a group of supporters and she talked about she understands what it's like to lose an election and she lost to barack obama in 2008, so kind of indicating she would be a little sympathetic to donald trump if he does lose, and then she said there's a difference between leadership and dictatorship and they focused on the comments donald trump made at the debate and in rallies saying he will accept the results of the election if in fact he wins and the clinton campaign pushing back against that. >> thank you for that, casey. trump's claim of a rigged election. what are the chances of it? joining us is an election lawyer who says fraud happens, but an entire election, and we'll tell you more about that. and then we will weigh in on trump's rigged remarks? >> the media and some of the democrats, they are just pulling things on him that are kind of
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some new data on early voting this morning shows women are turning out in greater numbers than men and latest report shows women account for 59% of the voters in north carolina and 55% in florida where the turnout by both parties so far has been equal, and democrats are out numbering republicans in seven of 11 other key battleground states. and the gop nominee doubled down on the message of it being rigged. >> some of the dead people vote, and tell me how they do that,
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and there's only one way. you have 2.5 million people or so registered in two states, and that means they are voting twice, and i think i have done a great service by pointing this out. >> let's talk about this more with a republican campaign finance and election lawyer and wrote this letter and defended the u.s. election system. in the piece you say, quote, i believe in election fraud, and double voting and absentee ballot fraud, it all happens and you highlighted all of those. my question is if those instances do occur, then why is donald trump wrong in saying the system of voting is rigged? >> because they are isolated fractional instances, and it's not systemic or by design, or
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governors in swing states have gotten together and decided to win this election for hillary clinton. donald trump is seizing on these isolated instances, and conflating them with a rigging of the entire system and that's just not the case. >> is there any possibility that some of these isolated instances, as you say, could be enough or large enough on a scale to actually change the outcome of the election against those -- what people voted for? >> in the realm of what is, you know, possible, no? it's conceivable you could have an election this a swing state that is so close that if one or two people voted that should not the have voted that that would alter the outcome of the election, and the system is not designed to facilitate that type of conduct and it's designed to find it and expose it and prevent it by having ordinary citizens serve as the officials that run the election by having
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their work observed, and by having representatives that stand over their shoulders, and having state and local officials over see the entire process, and then having the elections take place in one open space and then having all the records available for public inspection. >> and the informal adviser to donald trump, roger stone, plans on conducting his own exit polling, and from your perspective does this sound to you like an intimidation tactic? >> i have not heard that report and i don't know what mr. stone has in mind, and the bigger concern from me are the comments from people that listened to donald trump and have taken their cues and tend to show up in certain places and just watch, and in many states they are not going to be allowed into the polling places because
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access is controlled you have to have an ordinarily election, and in the states where they will be allowed in, they are not going to be allowed close to the voting or allowed to observe the election officials and if they try to interfere with the election in any way, they will be removed and that will feed into the suspicion that brought them there in the first place, and if you broadcast that on the news, i think it has the potential to create volatile situation in polling places on election day and that's bad for the country. >> a new "huffington post" poll found that trump supporters believe hillary clinton cannot win a legit election and this mess sing resonating with his supporters. if clinton does win, what impact could trump's claims have on the long-term -- ability for her to
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govern long-term? >> we have this notion in the united states of the consent of the government, and the way we express our collective consent is through the elections, and not just any elections, elections free and fair and open, and one candidate claims in advance of the election that the entire election is rigged and it has been -- the outcome of the election has been predetermined by somebody else, it has a debilitating affect on the legitimacy of the government, and not just on hillary, but whoever controls congress, and it's the same system that elected them, and it's a bad situation. >> and it's important to emphasize, trump is using the word rigged and he's not talking about mistakes or irregularities, and that connotes a favored candidate,
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one over the other. with over two weeks to go until the elections, how would you say that leaders from your party, the republican party should combat these rigged election claims from their candidate? >> the first thing we have to do is speak out, and those of us that worked in the system and understand the election laws and understand the way they are conducted in the united states, we have an obligation to speak out and tell americans who are willing to listen and are fair-minded and reasonable, the system just not rigged. the second thing we should do and donald trump should do as well, encourage all citizens to sign up and serve to be poll watchers and become part of the system and to get trained and to get credentials and develop an understanding of what is going on and helping to serve their country, and if they do that they will have a front row seat to what i and many others are confident is the cleanest and
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best election system in the world. >> you brought up this point about what supporters of trump can do if they wanted to observe the elections, and explain to us more about that, and there will be representatives from the democratic party and republican party to nonparty pollers in the country? >> there's a double layer of protection here. when you walk into a polling place, you go to a table and you are greeted by two people, and they are ordinary citizens and they have been selected by a list, one list provided by the democratic party and one by the republican party, and they collect and tally, and standing behind them you should see two or more people, and these are party and candidate representatives and ordinary citizens that volunteered for the day to come in and observe the conduct of the election, and behind them you have state and local election administrators,
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and six or more sets of eyes representing and watching the entire process, and so if you are going to rig the election in the polling place, you are going to have to have the cooperation of all of these people, and that's just not the case. it doesn't happen. the system is designed to happen. >> and somehow donald trump continues to reinforce that message time and time again. >> thank you so much. what are the elections doing to marriages? what happens when spouses differ on clinton and trump? that's next. now to a campaign flashback. and 30 years ago, aides were told he was too old to serve as president. >> i will not make age an issue of this campaign. i am not going to exploit for political purposes my opponent's
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youth and inexperience.
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despite the bitter campaign this year, a new pew search finds relative harmony exists, nearly 8 in 10 supporters say their spouse or partner will vote for the same candidate they will, and 85% say they have not argued about the election or candidates, and arguments are more common among the 41% mixed political marriages or parties, and 13% of those voting for the same candidate have had a little political marital discourse. fighting isis in a moment. the most daunting challenges
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facing fighting isis, and also coming up, how would the next president deal with the islamic state. a look at their take on the battle for mosul. >> you know who the big winner will be after we eventually get it, and the only reason they did it is because she is running for the office of president. >> i am amazed that he seems to think the iraqi government and our allies and everybody else launched the attack on mosul to help me in the election, but that's how donald thinks. coaching means making tough choices.
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minutes. today marks the sixth day of a major offensive in iraq to retake the city of mosul from isis control and it's happening as reports are streaming out of the embattled region that isis militants may have executed 284 civilians. matt, can you give us an update on the fighting taking place in some of these reports we are getting that isis executed up to 284 civilians? >> reporter: what we are seeing right now are the early reports of this, and we don't know if it's true, and the united nations said they are opening an investigation into the allegations, but if they are true and even the early allegations of the 284 people being killed that is consistent with how the islamic state has behaved in other battles, and now, remember, ayman, this is a group that says it has divine
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providence backing it and how do you explain to your followers if you are losing a battle you are also going to be blessed by god, and one thing they do is try to blame rebels or spies within their midst and execute them and this is the kind of thing we have seen along the euphrates river corridor earlier this year as they were starting to lose battles, the islamic state would start to execute their own ranks and civilians accusing them of being spies and this is consistent with their own propaganda, they can't lose a battle and it has to be because of spies in their midst, and there was a 12-hour long gun battle in a city an hour and a half south of mosul and that's part of isis, another signal that isis is probably losing or knows they are losing the fight in mosul, and they wanted to demonstrate they have the capability to lash out elsewhere, and it was an
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ingenious move and draw the counterterrorism forces from mosul to an hour and a half south to where they were able to distract them with the massive day-long bloody attack. this is, again, all signals, and while it looks like they are bad signs, these are signals that isis watchers say is consistent with battles isis has lost in the past. >> if those 284 people turn out to be executed, it's going to be a million or so people trapped, an ominous sign. and mosul was one of the issues donald trump and hillary clinton clashed over in the final debate? >> it's so sad. we had mosul, but when she left and took everybody out, we lost mosul, and now we are fighting again to get mosul. the problem with mosul and what they wanted to do, they wanted
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to get the leaders of isis who they felt were in mosul and about three months ago i started reading they want to get the leaders, and they are going to attack mosul. whatever happened to the element of surprise? >> trump's comments on the push into mosul led one reporter to write this article, and it shows how little he knows. and a foreign affairs reporter from the washington post, good to see you and have you with us. >> good to see you. >> let's see what donald trump got right about iraq in the debate? what do you think he got right in the debate? >> well, not very much. he began his whole response on mosul on relatively solid footing, this argument he and other republicans make about clinton and the obama administration's premature with draw from iraq has a bit of validity, but then he goes on from there to take all sorts of interesting tangents, including
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the whole conversation about a surprise attack which is laughable. >> let me pick up on that quickly. what did he get wrong about the planning of the mosul offensive? >> first of all, he says we have been talking about this for three months. no, we have not been talking about it for three months. you know and anybody that has followed with a basic level of interests, mosul fell in 2014 and it has been the subject of profou profound angst for everybody, and so no, we have been talking about this for quite sometime. that he got wrong, the three months. and then the idea you can somehow mobilize tens of thousands of units and ground infantry and surprise attack a city, it's quite amusing. he references macarthur and
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patten, and we are not fighting world war ii anymore, and there's no way to conduct a surprise attack. >> and i wand to ask you that in particular, and trump saying that the element of surprise attack, he had an issue with that, and as you highlighted, they don't necessarily work in this 21st century era of warfare? >> and this is consistent over the entire election campaign we have been following his foreign policy proposals such as they are for the entire duration of the campaign, and it doesn't seem that he particularly developed them over time even when he had a chance to read up about the issues and understand better the complexities on the ground. that doesn't seem to be reflected in his debate performance and speeches elsewhere. this idea that he said in the clip you aired, this idea that, mosul is just about taking out the leadership, and no, it's not, it's about iraq retaking its second or perhaps third
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largest city and rebuilding a fractured state and it's an incredibly important plank of stabilizing the middle east, and the fact he doesn't seem to appreciate that is interesting, and, you know, his sort of view is we should do a surprise attack and just bomb it and take out the leadership and it's like it's a video game movie set reality he seems to be operating in, and not one that is far more complicated and difficult and as you said earlier involves millions of civilians on the ground. >> regardless of who wins the election, it's going to be a major foreign issue to deal with mosul and fought the battle itself and reclaiming phoes you will, but what happens afterwards, and did you get a sense trump or clinton has a clear vision as to what the united states should do about mosul and that ultimately about taking the fight to isis in syria. >> it's fair to say trump
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doesn't. looking at what clinton said before trump got into his remarks, you know, republican and democratic foreign policy officials on both sides of the establishment are making similar sounds, and it's obviously a very difficult situation and mosul is a complicated city with sunnis and kurds and christians and there's a lot in motion right now, geopolitically, you have the turks providing their interest in the region, and specifically in northern iraq and you have a whole set of other issues, like you said, that needs to be resolved in terms of stabilizing the syrian conflict. if people had a clear vision, you would hopefully be seeing a closer resolution of the closer conflict and the reason it's a mess is nobody has a clear vision and clinton will struggle as well if she is elected. >> always a pleasure, and regardless of who wins it going to be a major issue for either candidate they have to deal with. >> thank you. how will trump supporters
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getting those assignments? >> reporter: i don't know, and it has been a long time since they have been in the world series, and anything that can be crossed, your toes and fingers and hearts, the cubs are one win away from going to the world series. >> and a ground ball to short -- >> reporter: baseball is a game of numbers. three strikes you're out, and four balls, you are on and a stretch song in the seventh, but for the chicago cubs and their patient passionate fans, a single number comes to mind this weekend, one. win one more game and finally get back to the world series. and there's a mountain of anticipation and excitement. >> it just keeps building and building like an avalanche. >> i don't want to jinx it, and obviously a lot of us cubs fans
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are superstitious. >> a black cat kept the curse going in '69, and him, a fan interfered with a fly ball and turned the tide against the cubs in '73. it's been longer since they last won it all, 108 years. could that be their lucky number. and a.j. spalding created the first balls, exactly 108 stitches and the tower at the broadcasting games, 108 stories tall, and it's on 108th avenue. around the city, there were signs everywhere, a simple "w" proudly displayed after each win and no team has won more this season than the cubs. now a 2 for 1 special, two shots
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to win one. >> love the cubs because i love my city. >> i love they might make it to the world series. >> a chance to make 2016 a most celebrated number in chicago. >> reporter: take a look at this line, ayman. these folks are waiting ten minutes more and the tickets window will open and there are loose tickets available for sale, and we don't know how many, and some of these people have waited since thursday night on this corner, that's how excited this city is. >> a lot of people may not be baseball fans and are getting swept up. i heard you got credentials to go to the game and sources tell me you might not even attend the game? >> depends on how the crowd is tonight because it's a long time since the cubs have been to the world series and i am not sure i am ready for that kind of
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pressure. and then for trump's message, the stakes are high, and an article in atlanta are suggesting trump's fans have more to lose than trump himself. joining me now is the author of the article, a contributing editor for "the atlantic." talk to us what is at stake for trump supporters on election day, and can you contrast that. >> at the end of this, trump will take his toys and money and go back to his life, and yes he will have lost friends and some invitations and his ego will be bruised if he loses, but for the people he left behind, there are tens of millions of voters that he basically jacked up and told not only should they be angry, that they are suckers if they are not angry at other people, at immigrants and minorities and the establishment, and basically he has convinced them the system is rigged against them, not just the election, but the entire
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system and he will leave behind this seething mass of resentment and anger. and we have seen episodes that have shocked us, and people are going to be like good riddance, and i heard a lot of people after i wrote that article, they deserve it and they are bigots and terrible people and we should just abandon them. >> and what about the leadership of who they will turn to, and the people that talked to who invested a lot in supporting donald trump, if he loses and goes quietly into the night, who will they turn to going forward? >> this is obviously a source of great anxiety among gop leaders. there has been a lot written and discussed about whether this is going to splinter the party and whether the establishment has been so damaged by trump's rhetoric they will lose all of the millions of voters, and then
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there is the question of how quietly trump goes. at some point he will get board and go back to whatever, and there has been talk, is he going to start his own tv network and try to rally these people just as this kind of angry mass, and then it will be interesting to see how the republican party in particular tries to bring these people back into the fold, and i think there's a lot of work they are going to have to work and do. >> you wrote, quote, they will likely be angrier, and more certain they are being dismissed if not out right screwed by a self-serving establishment. how could this sentiment, what you just described, continue to play in our nations politics going forward, aspecial shrae when you see what we were showing, somebody like mike pence is seen as somebody favorable for the future of the party? >> for the longest time there, people thought paul ryan would be the great hope of the party and trump works hard to discredit ryan, so he has a
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slash and burn approach to this, so what this is going to do is kind of have people wondering, well, who is trump going to signal as an appropriate stand-in for him, and it remains to be seen, you know, how the party itself responds to this situation, whether republican leaders try to reach out to trump, try to reach out to trump voters, and if there is some kind of fallout from his claims the election is rigged, how do the party leaders handle that? there's a lot of moving pieces that can't be predicted. >> thank you very much for joining us this morning. >> thank you. citizens for trump, you probably heard of them, and that's the support group that is marshaling forces in the election effort that is raising a lot of concerns, and that's next. coaching means making tough choices.
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it's in the quiet moments
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when you see why she does this. for hillary, it's always been about kids. >> it's a movement, not a campaign. its leader, donald trump, builder, businessman, success. >> you are probably scratching your eyes and perhaps wondering what you were just listening to, and those were presidential ads, kinder and gentler, and over the last month, 27% kinder, and there are fewer ads. the 117,000 that ran between september and mid october on tv is less than half the number that ran during the same period in 2012. now a look at the latest polling numbers, donald trump is neck and neck with hillary clinton in georgia, and that's according to an atlanta journal constitution poll out yesterday, and the
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state has gone to the gop nominee every year since 1996, and then a clear majority of voters do not agree with donald trump's reservations, and 68% of registered voters think the losing candidate should accept the result. but among trump supporters that number shrinks to 49%. joining me now is the director of the political research center. let's focus a little on georgia. are georgia's numbers showing a tightening race, and does that indicate a shifting in the el t election. >> it's still going to be a hard state to win for hillary clinton, but with a good get out the vote operation and if she can break the persuadables remaining in georgia, she's got a shot. >> is georgia a firewall to the
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rest of the of beltway, the deep south belted way so to speak? >> it's possible, you know. pollsters tend to defer to history but history has been thrown out the window so many times in this election, and hillary clinton, the way i look at the battleground states, she's doing really well in states you wouldn't expect, arizona right now is a tossup, and the loss two polls have clinton winning, and north carolina, a state of mitt romney won four years ago, real clear politics average is two, and florida is a big one for hillary clinton, the last four consecutive polls have her winning by four points. if trump loses florida it's over. >> let me pick up on the suffolk university poll, and ohio voters show clinton and trump were tied before the third presidential debate, and how have the polls shifted during the last month and does that suggest how much
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further the pendulum could swing in the final leadup to the question? >> we need to determine what is going to happen because you have news events that could totally shake up over the next 2 1/2 weeks, but what we noticed between data point, september to october in ohio, was a shift to hillary clinton by a margin of three points and we had trump winning by three points in the september poll and now the race is dead even and two of the last polls in ohio, clinton is winning and the previous two had trump winning. >> let me read you something from "the guardian." they reported there's an ongoing effort from trump loyalist and roger stone to conduct exit polling in some states, and how
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does that stand out from the way exit polls are typically conducted? >> the methodology is the same but the selection is vastly different. usually in an exit poll you would pick a bellwether precinct or voting district and from what i know, the locations in that article that i was quoted in, are vastly different, and they are picking polling places in urban areas, predominantly that would normally vote democratic, and to me it -- it doesn't sound like exit polling and it sounds more like the gathering of data, which we know based on the polling and history will be lopsided for democrats, and that's the norm in those urban areas, and what you want to do is exit polling is to select a bellwether area that reflects how the nation is voting or in the case of state by state
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bellwether polling how that particular state is going to point. >> as clinton appears to be leading her lead in the national polls at about seven points before the final debate, and historically speaking how good of an indication is the final outcome is the poll conducted weeks before voting day? >> again, historically, it's a good indicator, however, you know, it's dangerous, and i have to warn your viewers, the next four polls to drop off the real clear politics are clinton plus, six, nine, ten and 12. unless the next four polls are 6, 9, 10 and 12, that average will drop to maybe plus 4 to this time next saturday. >> that's why trump is reinforcing the theme to the
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