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tv   All In With Chris Hayes  MSNBC  October 25, 2016 12:00am-1:01am PDT

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>> as early voting begins today in several key states, a full-court press by democrats. >> what frustrates me about this election, trump has so dumped-down this election. >> and will the white house take back congress? >> heck, no! heck, no! >> and then the conspiracy theory. >> folks, we're winning. we're winning. we're winning. >> michael moore joins me on the trump effect and his new movie. >> a lot of people say that trump is a clown. he won't be when he's president. >> michael moore in trumpland. >> anybody from the i don't like hillary camp that can say something nice about her? >> early voting in the swing states and what past presidential campaigns looked like 15 days out. >> hey, you guys, i didn't name taxachusetts. the people named it
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taxachusetts. good evening, i'm chris hayes. technically, election day is still 15 days away, november 8th, two weeks from tomorrow. but for some places, election day is already here. early voting has been under way in ohio, north carolina, nevada, iowa, georgia and arizona. we've been getting new data from those states we'll bring you in a bit. today, early voting kicked off in a number of other states, including three crucial battlegrounds, colorado, and florida. texas and alaska, the presidential race got a lot closer prompting "the associated press" of taking the unheard of step to the lean column. barring some massive unforeseen disruption in the very near future, hillary clinton is currently beating donald trump by between five and eight points
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in the national polling average. slightly smaller than president obama's average over john mccain at this point in 2008, and much bigger than his tiny edge over mitt romney in 2012. according to the latest battleground states, between states that are currently democrat or lean democrat, that's if she can hang on to those. after the candidate spent months making their case, the american people, this is where the rubber meets the road. it's time for the campaign to turn people into voters. the two key questions w, whether clinton's operation can seal the deal and just how far can it press its advantage to help elect democrats down the ballot. and they don't appear to be taking any chances deploying one of the party's top closers, president barack obama, who's approval rating spiked to 57 last week. not even ronald reagan was that popular at this point in his presidency. last night, the president was campaigning in nevada. there is a tough battle between
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democrat catherine cortez masto and republican joe heck. >> catherine store, here's somebody who spent a career in nevada working with republicans and law enforcement to do right by you and make you safer. and meanwhile you were her opponent, joe heck, who was supporting donald trump, who was bragging about actions that qualify as sexual assault. what the heck? what the heck? heck, no. >> see, that's his last name. under pressure due to the release, the infamous tape in which donald trump brags about committing sexual assault, heck eventually withdrew his endorsement of donald trump. president obama took on republican congressional candidates around the country.
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>> now the excuse for why they aren't supporting trump, you should vote republican anyway because we'll check hillary's power. we'll be a counterweight. no, no, no. listen, they have been in charge of cameras now for the last six years, basically. how have they helped you? i'll vote for them as more gridlock. that's their argument. >> president obama will personally endorse another 30 candidates for the house of representatives. and get this, at the state level, he'll personally endorse 150 candidates for state legislative seats across 20 seats. another democratic powerhouse was helping close the deal, senator elizabeth warren was out campaigning.
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warren turned donald trump's own words against him. >> get this, donald! nasty women are tough. nasty women are smart and nasty women vote. and on november 8th, we nasty women are going to march our nasty feet to cast our nasty votes to get you out of our lives forever. >> it's not just democratic politicians working to get out to vote. the clinton campaign announced celebrity concerts to help turnout performance. clinton is backing from
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luminaries, donald trump is appearing to be more isolated. denying he's losing, though his staff admits the opposite and telling his supporters it's us against the world. it's gotten so bad, trump's own running mate is now pleading with fellow republicans not to abandon them on election day. >> it's time to reach out to all of our republican and conservative friends and say, with one voice, it's time to come home. and elect donald trump as the next president of the united states. >> it's time to come home and come together and do everything in our power to make sure that hillary clinton is never elected president of the united states of america. and donald trump and republican congress can move this country forward. >> and joining me now, republican strategist, contributor for msnbc, steve schmidt. you can understand the fluctuations of trump's polling numbers are what percentage of
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republicans he's getting and in the latest poll today he's getting up around 90% and still five points down. it seems there will still be some republicans filtering back coming home. the problem is, that doesn't get him over the hump. >> no. look, chris, i've said for some time, the presidential race is effectively over. the question is how close secretary clinton will get to 400 electoral votes versus how close she'll be to 350 electoral votes. i think what is interesting is a matter of political strategy. secretary clinton, until the last couple of days, had kept this race focused squarely on donald trump and hadn't expanded the argument to republican members of congress and so what i would say is beware of the law of unintended consequences. the results that the democrats were heading towards was they were going to take control of the senate and they were going to do significant damage to the republican majority in the house.
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but moving away from donald trump and focusing on these candidates will have the effect of bringing republicans back home and for democrats, it will have the effect of putting them out of reach, i think, in a senate seat or two that they would have won if they kept the race focused squarely on donald trump. as a vote for elizabeth warren. >> so you're arguing there's a boomerang effect that focusing on donald trump and essentially focusing him depresses margins at the key races that can benefit democrats that you believe there's a kind of boomerang effect when you target them squarely as we're seeing in the last two weeks that will sort of motivate some marginal set of republicans who are not voting for trump anyway. >> look, focusing on trump gets them to the result they want.
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shining a light on warrenism, making this an ideological contest is going to have the exact opposite political result of what they want to achieve. i think at a strategic level, it's a mistake. >> well, so then there's the question, too, i've always sort of anticipated these last two weeks we'd see the polls tighten a bit. usually that's what happens with races just generally. then there's the question -- the most stunning fact is barack obama was up by less than a point and won by 3.8. there was about three points that was essentially -- the turnout operation at that day, if you think the polls are basically right. here's the gop chairman in nevada talking about his interactions with the trump campaign. take a listen. >> a state with six is not going to get the same kind of attention. i'm talking about interviews from the campaigns, yard signs, hats, whatever.
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>> you can't get yard signs and bumper stickers? >> correct. >> so you called the trump campaign and say can i have the yard signs? >> i am the chairman of a swing county in a swing state. you guys need to talk to me. i need 2,000 yard signs, 10,000 bumper stickers and i don't even get a call back. >> stipulating the complaints about yard signs are ubiquitous in every campaign, there's something happening here in terms of what this machine is or is not that we're going to find out soon enough. >> we sure are. the best analogy for this is, the trump campaign is like a rock concert tour. it doesn't have any of the normal trappings of a presidential campaign. and the reality is, presidential campaign, chris, is like an iceberg. 10% of the mass of the iceberg is what you see above the water line. 90% of it is below the water line.
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and 90% of the work of a presidential campaign in these final weeks takes place below the water line. this is where your algorithmic data lining and targeting. hundreds of millions of dollars that have been invested in the infrastructure of the campaign. >> right. >> all gets turned on. the trump campaign has none of it. >> yeah. >> and there's never been a campaign so inadequately prepared for the battle in the fall and but for the rnc, there would be no effort anywhere in any state but for building the data for what i suspect will eventually be trump tv. >> steve schmidt, thank you so much. appreciate it. joined now by former texas state senator who supports hillary. wendy, i'm curious what this looks like from texas. when you talk about these battleground states, particularly on the clinton side, they are quite developed and sophisticated. texas is a state that's been hard for democrats and yet we
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see polls showing it very close. what does the campaign feel like in these final two weeks there on the first day of early voting in texas? >> i have to tell you, chris, when i went to vote here in texas, i had to stand in line and that just doesn't happen in presidential contests on the first day of early vote and it shows you that there are a huge swath of people anxious to cast their ballot in this election. half the battle that we've faced in texas, as is the case in other red states, is the idea that many democratic voters have, that their vote just won't matter. >> right. >> in this election, they feel like, hey, this is close. let's show up. let's make sure that we cast our ballots and see if we can make a difference here. >> that's a really important point about the psychology of this last part of the race, which is generally if you're in states -- i grew up in new york state and it's basically always, particularly in presidentials, won by a democrat by 25, 30
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points. on the other side, it could be well, if i don't get to the polling place today, we know what's going to happen in new york. to the extent that this narrowing has incentivizing psychological effect on a set of voters that normally wouldn't be so motivated in a presidential? >> that's absolutely true. of course, donald trump has helped that along. he's alienated women and latino voters and latino voters, of course, in texas being a huge voting bloc here and he has given them a tremendous incentive added to the incentive that they long have had a great appreciation and love for hillary clinton and that dynamic, i think, is going to evidence itself in latino turnout at the polls here. so that number should go up as well. >> and latino voters in texas -- and this is sort of the keys to one of this whole election both in the way that texas has deviated from the national gop, it's a very diverse state and it's because latino voters do not vote overwhelmingly for
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democrats in texas the way we see them do in other states and increasingly in florida. that's been the key to the gop's lock hold on that state. >> no question about it. we see in republican gubernatorial contests, for example, latino vote in the 30s, sometimes even 40% range. when george w. bush was running. and a lot of that, of course, is the fact that they have a unique appeal in terms of some of the catholic values of that particular voting bloc. but also that so many who disagree with the values and the platform of the republican party have just been staying home. >> wendy davis, thanks for your time. appreciate it. still to come, democrats have been caught red-handed rigging the polls. what's actually happening, coming up. and filmmaker michael moore. he's here to talk to me right after this two-minute break.
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wikileaks also shows how john podesta rigged the polls by oversampling democrats, a voter suppression technique. and that's happening to me all the time. when the polls are even, when they leave them alone and do them properly, i'm leading. but you see these polls where they are polling democrats. how's trump doing? oh, he's down. they are polling democrats. the system is corrupt and it's rigged and it's broken and we're going to change it. >> donald trump's latest defense of his sinking poll numbers. he says democrats are rigging the polls against him. and that, which he was reading from prompter, let's be clear, and here's trump's proof. a 2008 e-mail allegedly from the hacked account from john podesta and picked up by a right-wing blog and radio show.
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if you recall, 2008 is the year that hillary clinton was not her party's nominee. an activist recommending oversampling when conducting certain polling. it's standard. when pollsters want your survey, they will often try to poll more people from underrepresented groups to end up with a large enough sample of those people to draw real, aka, statistically significant conclusions. oversampling does not affect the horse race numbers that trump is complaining about, something that trump should already know considering his trump manager, kellyanne conway, is a pollster who uses sampling from underrepresented groups. this assertion from trump and his supporters that he's losing because of a conspiracy reflects a far deeper truth, one that's been haunting the entire election. but as the country's demographics increasingly shift, conservatives are apparently no longer a majority of the country.
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that new reality is something many voters are still struggling to accept. joining me now, michael moore, his latest film, "michael moore in trumpland" is playing in theaters and also available on itunes. in some ways, it's kind of the crux of this film, right? >> uh-huh. >> it feels to me that part of what makes this election feel so advice serially intense is that we're asking, who's country is it? who gets to say it's our country and we run things? >> it's a real changing of the guard, which actually started, as you pointed out, many elections ago, culminated in the american people, our fellow citizens, twice electing a man whose middle name was hussein and now this is the end. this is the -- they should play the door song at the beginning of every trump rally "this is
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the end" because they know it's the end. that's why they are so angry and they are so out of control. because if you've held power for so long, it was a conservative country and the nixon/reagan era changed this country in such a profound way. and now that's over. we live in a liberal country. our fellow americans take the liberal position on every single issue. whether it's pro-choice, whether it's women should be paid the same as men, whether it's the environment. go down the line. and last week, the last issue that americans weren't liberal on, the latest poll now shows that the majority of americans are opposed to the death penalty. so they are against the death penalty, they are for legalization of decriminalization of marijuana. go down the whole list. it's all liberal, liberal, liberal. and if you're a conservative, a republican, a trump supporter, this sounds like a cacophony of madness. if you want to look the a the
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macro of it, white men have been in power for a very long time. a good 10,000 years at least. and it's been a nice run, chris, that you and i and the others have had. and now it's over. the thing is, on our watch, grand papi and papi handed it down to us and now the women and the gays and the blacks are taking over. >> it's funny, because you say that in the film along those lines, it gets a great response and it's an interesting and awkward response in the room. i wonder, in the trump voters that you're talking to, you have affection for these folks or admiration because it's people that you grew up with came from. >> still live with. >> still live with. >> that it's being understood as that. when you talk about this country being taken away from white men, they are not feeling it -- those aren't the words they would put to it. >> yeah.
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of the 750 people in the theater in this film where i'm performing a one-man show in a town that's 80% republican, 100 to 150 people are trump supporters. and not one of them walked out. it was amazing. now, granted, a lot of them were there with their wives and girlfriends who were hillary supporters. >> and you make a great point. everyone has a conservative they know, their father, brother-in-law, uncle, your sister. and then you said, i'm just kidding. not your sister. >> it is kind of a guy thing. in the film, the women are like this and men are sitting there like this. but at the end of it, and through humor and my sense of humor, not ridiculing them, not putting them down because they are thinking about voting for trump but understanding why they have a legitimate right to be angry. these people -- people i grew up with who are auto workers, people who lost their jobs and used to be part of the middle class, that's all over for them. >> right. >> and so they are angry and
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trump, to them -- and i've had many guys tell me this. in fact, i was just yesterday filming a thing here and three guys on the crew told me they were voting for trump. and i said really? and they said, yeah, we don't really like him that much but we want to see the system blow up. trump is the human molotov cocktail. they can get into that booth and go bing. >> there's been this debate about trump support, broadly on the left and the economic anxiety and racism and i think you've got a particular interesting spectrum on this. will you stick around for another break? >> oh, yeah, sure. >> stick around. we'll talk more about his movie right after this short break.
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whether trump means it or not is kind of irrelevant because he's saying things to people who are hurting. and it's why every beaten down, nameless, forgotten working stiff who used to be part of what was called the middle class loves trump. he is the human molotov cocktail that they've been waiting for. >> michael moore in trumpland. there's been this debate about the left or liberals could find a way to draw people away from the allure of trump and racist backlash. what do you think about that? >> i think it's mail identity and that's really what a lot of this -- obviously the racism of trump, it's quite evident.
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and two wonderful pages of 6,000 words of insults from him. everybody knows all that. i wanted to make a film that focused on the fact that we have a woman running for president and she may be our first -- if she's elected, she will be our first woman president and she brings a lot to the table by having been a woman who went through the first wave of modern feminist era. the way she was treated, they haven't forgotten that. she hasn't forgotten that. i hope, i think, she'll do a lot of good with that. >> so you really locate something central about gender and gender backlash. >> yes, i think that this is -- we don't talk about it much. i'm surprised people don't talk about or aren't excited about the fact that we are going to
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have our first women president. >> women writers do. men writers talk about -- >> i guess most of the pundits we see, i mean, yes, we work in industries. as you know, we don't need to get into what the gender percentages are. they are pretty pathetic. but it's there and it's a wonderful thing. not just the fact that she's a woman but look at all that she's done. what is this -- the thing, too, with hillary supporters who have this, yeah, i'm going to vote for hillary. the sort of lack of whatever that is, there's not that thing that people had on the day we're going to vote for obama where it's like, couldn't wait to get to the polls. i need people to feel that way on this november 8th. you know, there's no reason to be into this place with, you know, sort of the knock on her has been unfair. she's been attacked and harassed and abused in ways that i believe, honestly, if she were a
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man, she wouldn't have to go through some much of this. she tried to do something 20 years ago, 23 years ago for us, get us universal health care, real universal health care and she was -- man, she was massacred. and it was sad. it was sad. and we ended up with no universal health care. >> we ended up with obamacare which has insured 20 million people, has been a respect in many respects. >> stay on your parents' plan until you're 26. >> but benchmark premiums will rise 25%. >> yes. >> how do you think about that in this? it's like, okay, mission accomplished, democrats did it, liberals did it. there's still problems with this law. >> yes, because we didn't go all the way. >> right. >> fdr didn't do half of social security. we have to have single payer universal health care. i'm hoping, i'm praying that president hillary clinton is going to make that happen. we don't -- first of all, we
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have the gold, the silver and the bronze plan, the obamacare, the bronze, do they have to call it the bronze plan? you know, where they -- >> i have an insurance executive who once said to me, people order it the way they order wine at the hotel, they get the second cheapest. or like at a restaurant. it's like, no one knows. you're looking at your insurance the way you're being looking at wine. i don't want to be the cheapest. i'll get the second cheapest. >> we should not have health care that's the equivalent of boone's. >> right. >> "michael moore in trumpland" is available on itunes and theaters.
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early voting, as we said, is now under way across much of the country and those states include many key battleground states. as of today, more than 6.5 million votes have been cast. more than 4 million in battleground states. right now, democratic registered voters are voting more than republican registered voters in battleground states like arizona, a battleground state this year, virginia, nevada, iowa, north carolina, wisconsin while republican voters are voting early more often in florida, georgia and pennsylvania. that said, the voting landscape is marred by early voting restrictions in certain states, according to analysis by university of florida political science professor michael
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mcdonald. 17 north carolina counties reduced the number of early voting locations from 2012. 15 saw lower rates in early voting and in at least six, declined by 50% and guilford county cut its early voting locations from 16 down to just one. and guess what happened? they saw in-person voting decline in the first two days by roughly 80%. as we're looking at early voting, this has been one of the things that republican legislators have really waged a kind of assault against. >> right. we saw right after the 2010 elections where we had a change in those statehouses a number of voting restrictions reduced. certainly cutbacks to early voting mattered. one of the things most
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distressing is it seemed that these cutbacks were targeted. for example, cutting the sundays before election day where many african-american voters called us all to the polls and political scientists are clear the more barriers you put in front of the ballot box, it decreases and depresses turnout. unfortunately, we're seeing some of that. i think there's a counterbailing trend which is people are mad when they are being threatened and people want to show that they care about voting and they are not going to let politicians manipulate the rules of the game, not to let them vote. >> obviously the benchmarks here, the important apple-to-apple comparison, it being looks on the whole like democrats are outperforming their 2012 benchmarks. >> right. >> which may be a sign about that sort of backlash effect you might get even if not in guilford county where that
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restriction had a significant effect, if essentially you bottle up the energy that then pours forth. >> right. i think in this country, we need to change how we add minister elections. voting needs to be easier, more accessible, more fair and better resourced and one of the things that needs to happen is it should not be a political football among partisans. it should not be the case that instead of trying to compete for votes, people are trying to cheat so some people can participate and some people can't. one of the things that i autos a voting lawyer take so seriously, i don't want to be hearing this rhetoric of who they are going to have out there challenging to be deterred from voting. this is an important election. people need to go out there. there's a lot of federal laws out there protecting them, me and others across the country that are ready to back voters up. be out to vote. the law is on your side. >> quickly, in passing reference there, donald trump has talked about sending observers, whether it's sort of citizen observers or lawyers, there's actually a
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consent decree guiding the rnc as they are limited in what they can do. >> right. again, there have been politicians that instead of competing voters have been trying to shave people out of participating. there's a consent decree that makes it very clear that intimidation and suppression of votes like this is illegal. and beyond that, there are additionally federal and state laws that also try to fill in the gaps. so anybody that thinks that they are going to be a bully at the polls, self-appointing them as policemen at the polls, they need to know that they are on very, very shaky ground because there are very clear rules of what they can do and intimidating and discriminating against voters is not one of them. >> appreciate your time. thank you. >> thank you. with 15 days left to go, how does clinton and trump compare to the past? some incredible footage from past campaigns. first, thing one and thing two is next. p?
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thing 1 tonight, breitbart news, a conservative media organization whose top executive is donald trump's campaign ceo has announced its latest hire. curt schilling will host "whatever it takes" and feature his unfiltered and insightful commentary on a mix of politics and current affairs. we've seen that before. he was fired as a baseball analyst for espn back in april for posting a meme on social media about transgender americans. he could use this for a platform for electoral. we got a glimpse into the political power mr. schilling might yield. his face might give you a clue.
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ana $2 singsard,go to al.c ahead of today's announcement that curt schilling will host a rally on saturday keep in mind six days ago, schilling said he may challenge senator elizabeth warren. this could be a window into 2018. well, this is what the scene looked like outside boston city hall, according to a local reporter who tweeted this photo. now, it was, as you can tell, raining. but around the same time, elizabeth warren was in western massachusetts campaigning for a local congressman and speaking to a crowd of roughly 200 people. afterwards, she was asked about schilling. >> curt schilling said he's running against you on 2018 and made controversial comments about support for democrats. i want to get your take on your potential challenger.
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15 days out from the 2016 election, the headlines are all about rigged polls yet another woman accusing trump of unwanted sexual advances. we wanted to see what the headlines in other presidential campaigns when election day was just two weeks from tomorrow. >> the election day, two weeks from tomorrow. >> the election is two weeks from tomorrow. >> two weeks from tomorrow. >> two weeks from tomorrow. >> tomorrow, two weeks until the election. tonight, the final scheduled man-to-man showdown among president bush, bill clinton and ross perot. >> now, you've got to stop telling these people who to vote for. you've got to stop telling these people in the press that you're throwing your vote away. >> with the hours ticking away, suddenly it's a two-front war against george bush and a new headache, consumer advocate, ralph nader.
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>> my task is not to tell people that are going to vote for nader should vote for bush, that may be true. but my task is to convince them to vote enthusiastically for me. >> mr. bush came to new jersey today, a state hard hit by the attacks to argue that the first presidential election since that day comes down to a simple question. >> will we stay on the offensive against those who want to attack us? or will we take action only after we are attacked? >> democrats today kept up their charges. bush campaign is appealing to racial fears. in michigan, running mate lloyd benson said the republicans had exploited the case of willy horton. >> there were racist overtones in that commercial. >> he dismissed all of the charges as a sign of desperation. >> it's desperation, insidious and outrageous. >> negotiators for president carter and ronald reagan met for
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several long hours today but were not able to reach a formal agreement on where the presidential debate will be held or when. >> president carter wants his confrontation with reagan as he can get. they want an indirect faceoff. carter wants the debate next sunday, october 26th, believing more people watch tv on sunday night. reagan has not responded to the league's suggestion, tuesday the 28th. also unsettled, how long the debate should be and what they will talk about. >> kennedy called for a greater student exchange program. he left at 11:40 and students trying to touch him. kennedy produced several effects on people. one of them is jumping. reporters started categorizing such things and called such types jumpers. after a pause for lunch, kennedy went to the tractor plant where at 3:45 he picked up an
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enthusiastic lady on his car. these people are classified as leapers. up in the suite, kennedy likes milk. >> in the final face-to-face meeting last night. >> today, the reagans talked and saying he may have clinched the nomination last night. >> he won. [ laughter ] >> she says i won. >> what do you say? >> better it comes from her than me.
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if you want to understand the crisis the gop finds itself in with donald trump at the top of the ticket, look no further than this guy, darrell issa, who led investigations into the benghazi attack, the irs targeting the fast and furious gun sting. in 2010, issa called president obama one of the most corrupt presidents of modern times and then later amended it saying he leads the most corrupt government in history. which i think is interesting when you see issa shaking
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trump's hand in may saying he's, quote, very pleased that the president assigned legal protections that issa had co-sponsored. that's the same thing that he tried to approve and issa cruised to victory in the past election but this year in a tight race against doug appleby. at a fund-raiser last night, president obama talked about issa. primary contribution to the united states congress has been to obstruct and to waste taxpayer dollar on trumped up investigations that have led nowhere that. joining me, former reagan official linda chavez and josh barro. josh, this to me, the darrell issa is two things. it's, one, the political
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problems that down-ballot republicans are worried about but also, what is the republican party in 2016? what are you voting for? what are you getting when you vote for this party in 2016? >> it's funny because people talk about a three legged stool of conservatism. trump has kicked out all three legs of the stool. he does not run on social issues at all. it's not at all clear if you're a serious social conservative he's your guy. he's abandoned the conservative positions on trade, the economic aspects of immigration, doesn't talk about taxes very much, doesn't embrace the bush vision of foreign policy. so if you take away all of the policy stuff, all you have left is sort of this anger. and that's what donald trump has run on and it's left the down-ballot candidates a little bit awash as well. >> in 2012, the ryan budget was a manifesto and more than that, an operational document that was
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actually a plan for what the priorities were and they got attacked over it and i, for one, was not a big fan of it but it was a thing that, this is what the republican party is. i just don't even understand what that case is in 2016. >> well, i think that's the big question and the real question is going to be what is the relationship party going to be on november 9th. after the election is over, after trump -- if the polls are correct, does not become our president, then the republican party is going to have to decide whether it's going to go back to that three-legged stool that josh talked about and certainly on some key issues, such as trade, economic issues, foreign policy, it's going to be very, very tough because trump represents people who have grievances, they feel like they are victims and they like to promote their, you know, white national identity but they don't represent ideas or a platform that can be cohesive for our party.
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>> well, a nationalist for many people is an idea. it's a bad idea but it is an idea. this is the problem, right, if you ask republicans who represents the views of the party, donald trump, 51%. paul ryan, 33%. it's sort of in the nature of this heat of the election that the head of the party insofar as he's the nominee is the one that lays down the marker for what it is. it's not operational wisable for any of these other candidates. >> a lot of people have been pointing to that number as something alarming for paul ryan but it's also alarming for donald trump's vision of the party. because to your point about white nationalism being a thing, as the demographics have changed, people say if you can win 70% of the election, you can still win. they have ideological diversity on things. for example --
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>> thank god they do. >> some people like social security and medicare a lot and that's one of the reasons donald trump has de-emphasized entitlement cuts and you have white voters that are not conservative on economics but don't like the way the country has been changing. if you shed that 33% of the party and people cared about that ideology, that's people like in darrell issa's district, a wealthy suburban district in california. you have the wealthy, educated professional republicans who were in the party for the ideology. >> and then, linda, you end up with folks caught between first and second base with a lead that was too large in trying to get back to the base. mike, u.s. senator who had endorsed trump, unendorsed him after that tape came out is re-endorsing him. >> right. >> they are going to have to wear that after what happens on election day.
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>> i think that's really a problem. it's become a revolving door and you don't know when they are going to come out and be where they are eventually going to be. they keep flip-flopping and that's always bad for a politician. there's nothing worse for a politician than to be pegged for someone who doesn't stand firm on the issues. frankly, i think they are really losing by this strategy. >> standing firm on alternate days. josh barro and linda chavez, thank you for your time. that is "all in" for this evening. go cubs, go. first world series in 71 years. the rachel maddow show starts right now. >> i was expecting a marching band. >> i had ten seconds.f i thought i'd get this in there. >> i understand. i'm with you there in spirit, sort of. thanks, my friend. and thanks to you at home joining us. happy monday. do you know who crazy eddie is? a crazy eddie is a guy who has been parodied so many times,
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