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plus, inside the trump bunker. a new report revealed donald trump's campaign strategy that his campaign chief said, quote, three major voter suppression operations. i'll talk live with the co-author who got access to parts of trump's campaign hidden from public view. good morning. i'm tamron hall coming to you live from our msnbc headquarters in new york. 12 days until the presidential election and here's the state of the race right now. take a look. there are lines of supporters at wake forest university. this morning, all there to see hillary clinton and perhaps what could be the big boost she's looking for on the campaign trail today. for the first time, clinton and first lady michelle obama will be together on stage. the rally at wake forest in winston/salem north carolina and a historic moment for two first ladies and donald trump heads to springfield, ohio, for a rally at 1:00 p.m.
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nebraska, then iowa and clinton ahead among likely voters in new national polls this morning. clinton leading by 9 points. 43, 34. the new fox news poll. a 3 point lead at 44% and as of today, showing an advantage in early voting. more than 10.5 million votes have already been cast nationwide. that according to the "associated press" this morning. the strong early voting turnout by those likely to support clinton. registered democrats, minorities and young people. and here's the top headlines from the trump campaign this morning. more evidence of gop in-fighting and fanning the flames within the divided party. "the new york times" said he's privately said paul ryan should pay a price for his disloyalty. that according to two people reportedly close to donald trump and also this morning, melania trump is speaking out and says her husband should move forward
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with lawsuits against the women who accused him of sexual assault. >> yes, i believe that. and because to accuse somebody without evidence, it's very hurtful and it's very damaging and unfair. honestly, do we still need to talk about that? i think american people want to hear the problems that we have in america. >> she's so right about that. >> nbc's peter alexander in springfield, ohio. i want to quickly get to this other sound bite from the interview with george stephanopoulos. he seemed to surprise his wife with an announcement made in the interview, let's play that. >> does it make you want to get out yourself and help him out the final two weeks? >> we will see. my priorities, my son. our son, barron and i'm there
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for him every time he needs me. i might join him. we'll see. >> she's actually going to make two or three speeches. it's, she's amazing when she speaks. she's an amazing public speaker, so she's agreed to do two or three speeches and i think it's going to be big speeches, important speeches. i think it's great. >> donald trump saying she's agreed to do speeches. she seemed surprised. we know he needs strong female surrogates out there to make his case if a way newt gingrich cannot. rudy giuliani clearly cannot as well. >> reporter: that's exactly right. the deficit for donald trump with women remains significant. while mitt romney lost four years ago but i think it was 11 or 12 points. donald trump according to the latest poll, trailing by 20 points with women. this is something that the campaign recognizes and is trying to work to sort of combat. as we just walked here to the
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clark county fairgrounds in an equestrian center. make america great signs but hand in hand with pink signs saying women for trump. what's notable about the exchange with melania trump and donald trump is how startled she would be with two to three speeches. she hasn't been as visible on the campaign trail in recent weeks, obviously, there was the big convention speak and she spoke out after the "access hollywood" recording and then beside her husband as he went to the reopening or the opening of hoel hotel in washington, dc. >> planning to target gop leadership and privately said paul ryan should pay a price for his disloyalty. what is the campaign saying about this report? >> reporter: well, this has been obviously an item that donald trump has peppered throughout his stump speeches through the course of this campaign. the grassroots has become fed up
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with the swamp, as they describe it. doesn't just apply to democrats but sort of the washington establishment and paul ryan is perhaps the most visible example on the republican side of the establishment. one of the real concerns for ryan is what he'll be able to do going forward. he has to run, again, for the speakership and if the grassroots is upset with him, particularly in the wake of a trump loss, he could face a tough challenge going forward. >> thank you. now to the top headlines this morning from the clinton campaign. the campaign is out with a new ad warning that the race is not over. they say they expect the race to tighten and don't want clinton supporters to take a win for granted. and there's new fallout this morning from the stolen e-mails put out by wikileaks. an alleged 2011 memo from bill clinton aid doug band appears to show on behalf of both the clinton foundation and bill clinton personally. and as we said in just a few hours for the first time, hillary clinton and first lady
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michelle obama will campaign together. nbc's kristen welker is traveling with hillary clinton. she joins us now from white plains getting ready to get on the plain but let's talk about the relationship between michelle obama and hillary clinton. what do we know of their personal relationship to be like? >> reporter: well, now, they are joined together in the common goal of defeating donald trump but it wasn't always that way. it was thorny initially. going back to 2008 when secretary clinton was running against then senator obama and tensions were very thick against both families and moments boiling over. getting personal at one moment. and of course, had that moment with then senator obama who said during a debate, hillary, you're likable enough. those type of comments stoking mounting tensions that lasted into the second administration. rumors that michelle obama was cheering for vice president joe biden to get into this race but
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all of that has been put aside now and both of them, again, working to try to defeat donald trump. they'll be together for the very first time in north carolina. that critical swing state where early voting is already under way and a top clinton campaign official tells me that michelle obama is a rock star. she has become their not so secret weapon and the reason why is because she's so effective at not only energizing the obama coalition but also shredding donald trump. she is blunt. she is impassioned and they feel as though she really reaches voters. the millennial voters. african-americans. everyone they immedianeed to tu in force to win the white house. another top official telling me they were surprised by how available that michelle obama made herself, tamron and that essentially leaving the door open for the possibility that this may not be the last time we see these two women again. >> in a prior report that the clinton campaign is essentially adopted michelle obama's famous line, when they go low, we go
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high. kind of a mantra for them in these closing days. >> reporter: right. a clinton campaign official telling me it's become a guiding principle of this campaign. you heard michelle obama use that term during the democratic convention and then secretary clinton has adapted it. she's used it a number of times on the campaign trail. it's the way they aimed to stay above the mud slinging in this race and i wouldn't be surprised if we heard that mentioned today as well, tamron. >> kristen, thank you very much. we greatly appreciate it. keeping hillary clinton supporters at home on election day may be the trump campaign's latest strategy. one senior trump official told bloomberg business week we have three major voter suppressions under way. key to a clinton victory. idealistic. sasha, one of the reporters
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behind this eye opening new look. thank you so much for your time. >> thanks, tamron. >> looking at this, i think a lot of people speculated and i'm sure you've heard the pundits wonder if that was the strategy with some of the rhetoric from donald trump to just turn off voters who might support hillary clinton and now there seems to be a valid information from his team that says it's the plan. >> i think the expectation was that the trump campaign did not have a lot of data about where the race was. trump talks about public polls. they do information and run statistical models like we see in the press and know they're losing and effectively come to the realization that the low 40s he tops out at in most polls isn't enough to win in a normal sized electorate. they're now embarking on a vat strategy, that's unproven and little scientific basis to lower
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the overall turnout so that what looks now like 44% or 45% could be a plurality in a state and try to turn off some of the core democratic constituencies. >> i wonder how they plan to implement this. what makes it odd. the newt gingrich interview with megan kelly. i don't know how that would motivate young liberal female women to support hillary clinton and african-american on the campaign trail uttering the term blacks live in hell. that would seem to motivate blacks and women to vote for hillary clinton, not make them stay home. >> yeah, i think this is working on two different tracks and what comes out of donald trump's mouths or the top surrogates mouth doesn't necessarily reflect the target of communication but sending in geographically targeted ads to little haiti in miami and the
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clinton foundation controversial practices and sending digital ads with her super predators from the mid 90s to young african-americans. it's not necessarily being echoed by the way the the top surrogates speak about these groups. >> an interesting strategy. thank you so much for joining us this morning. thank you. and the dnc is suing the rnc accusing it of working with the trump campaign to intimidate voters. democrats say republicans have supported trump's claims that the election is rigged which they say is an effort to discourage minorities from voting. the dnc says this violates a 1982 agreement signed after democrats claiming republican intimidated minority voters during the new jersey '81 governor's race and calls this most recent lawsuit meritless. let's go to the panel and find out what they think. the global editorial director of the huffington post and msnbc analyst sarah isker flores and
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former for carly fiorina's campaign. i think this is the first time on with us and we appreciate it. howard, let's start with this report from bloomberg that the plan to suppress the vote. is this going to work? >> well, i just spoke with one of the top trump strategists on the topic of whether there's a hidden surge of trump voters out there unaccounted for in the polls and their answer was basically no. so indirectly, that sort of confirms what sasha's reporting is which is that the trump people are not expecting or think that there's a huge hidden surge for donald trump out there that's not been detected in the polling. so their only option as he reports is to do what they can to make this a low turn-out election. the problem that they've gotten is they can't organize a one-car funeral because they can't agree on their message and as you pointed out, things that newt gingrich says or donald trump
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say totally contradict the strategy they're trying to carry out. >> does this sound like a winning plan to try to suppress the vote? here you have donald trump surprising his wife on air that she's going to give three speeches. yesterday, ivanka trump, again, saying i'm not a surrogate. i'm a daughter. she was supposed to be a secret weapon to get in female voters. what's going on here? >> well, i think you have two opposing forces here. when you have two top of the ticket candidates who are as unpopular as hillary clinton and donald trump are, both, i think, are now over 60% of americans that don't trust them on both accounts. you have that which would lower voter turnout a lot. on the other hand, the most covered presidential campaign in history and high entertainment value as we've seen over and over again with latest scandals and revelations whether it's wikileaks and leaked audio so that usually would turn
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upturnouuptur up turnout. i think a lower election benefits and then the largest ground game in history trying to turnout voters but i'm guessing it will be pretty high. >> what's behind the flip? we were supposed to see this silent trump supporter, some may be embarrassed at the dinner table to tell family members but all going to go in and have incredible numbers that would marvel all of us. he was counting hats and t-shirts a couple of days ago in the audience as proof people were engaged. why the change in the strategy? >> don't forget the halloween costumes. >> right. how could i forget that? >> that never made a lot of sense. that was pollster dc people coming up with the theory. i don't think that's ever been the case. with the pollster, that's an anonymous person on the other end of the vote, that's different among your colleagues but the polls, i don't think we
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have any reason to believe they're not accurate. >> let's talk about this video of wake forest. you have michelle obama going in now 12 days, side by side with hillary clinton. what impact, both historically, could this have and also for the black vote in that state as well as female? >> well, i think michelle obama is is absolutely critical. hillary clinton is right to admonish her supporters. don't take this for granted. some of the tracking polls show a bit of closing. this is tight in a lot of battleground states. michelle obama is critical with two groups, obviously. with african-americans and with women. more than that, she carries the torch for president obama, approval ratings are quite high and if she racks up states like north carolina and florida, what she's going to need, i think, is
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strong turnout in the african-american community, strong turnout from women and if you put the diagram together, she needs young african-american women to really turn out and to be leaders in the community as they are and that's the connection that michelle obama can make. i think she's probably the best single campaigner on the campaign. it's been marvelous and interesting to watch how good she is. >> it's an incredible analysis win or lose. but win or lose donald trump, he has not had the michelle obama, you know, big name surrogate to be able to stand side by side throughout this and now you have the report that he plans if this "the new york times" report is accurate but congressman from utah went from not endorsing to now saying he won't endorse but he will vote. is there some kind of tea leaf
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reading in how congressman chavis of utah is handling trump? >> i think it's put republicans in an impossible situation. you have a non-conservative, non-republican candidate who captured the nomination fair and square, mind you, with the help of a lot of media attention. and you have republicans deciding with hillary clinton the latest wikileaks memo from doug band with basically a step by step instruction on how to create a pay for play scheme with a former secretary of state and president. i thought it was particularly damning to what they had been doing at the clinton foundation and then you have donald trump who doesn't really seem to have policies and he's really running a personality campaign. so i think for someone like jason chavis, there is no choice. you have o voto vote for donald trump. >> also accused of using
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influence and money perhaps in florida. just quickly because we're out of time. >> i'm no trump fan. buying a portrait is not the same as millions of dollars going to the former president who's married to the current state of state that gives an award in ireland to the guy running the foundation. >> and i know you're no trump fan but one name you forgot is pam bundy. bondi. that's a lawmaker. >> what's going on with jason chaffetz is the post-trump party has begun and i think haye's lining up in the anti-paul ryan camp the beginning of the ted cruz campaign for 2020. >> ted cruz is already talking about holding up the supreme court saying we don't need anymore justices. thank you so much. i appreciate you joining us. great pleasure to see you always. coming up, a new harvard
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poll finds 85% of young african-americans say they're under attack in america because of their race. we'll go live to the country's largest historically black college to hear what young voters think about this election and what they heard from the candidates regarding race. that's coming up. plus, a live report from florida's biggest swing reegion. how a surge of puerto rican voters could flip the county. once i left the hoital after a dvt blood clot. what about mwife... ...what we're building together... i was givewarfarin in the hospital, but wondered,n again? was this the best treatment for me? i spoke to my doctor and she told me abt eliquis. eliquis trts dvt and pe blood clots and reducethrisk of them happening ain. onlyoes eluis treat dvt and pe blood clots. but eliquis al had significtly less major bleeng than e stanrd treatment. knowing eliquis had both... ...turned around my thinking.
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this is a live look at wake forest university in winston salem, north carolina, where in just a few hours, michelle obama makes her appearance with hillary clinton on the campaign trail. both clinton and donald trump are clamoring for voters in the
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battleground state of north carolina where clinton is leading by an average of 2 points. one group critical to this election we've been talking about, black millennials who make up nearly 24% of that state's eligible voters. morgan ratford visited the largest historically black college in the nation to ask students what they need to hear from the candidates or i should say, at 12 days out what they've heard that has helped them make their decision. morgan, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, tamron. that's right. we're here at a&t. to give you importance of how important this is, i want to give you numbers. the higher voter turnout rate than the counterparts. turned out at 52% and 46% and that's why we're here talking to
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students. she's a junior here and we talked about black voters, especially youth in higher numbers but especially true when it comes to black women. why do you think that is? >> i think it's a pretty big election. the fact we have a female presidential candidate, i think that's really big. another hurdle women will be able to possibly get over. and we just have to simply show out because of the fact that they're making laws that affect us, like one about locks. >> reporter: explain that. you have dread locks. what do you mean? you talked about job discrimination when it comes to your hair? >> i don't know if you are familiar with the case, but there was a lady who was actually about to get a job but they were telling her she would have to get rid of her hair. >> reporter: that's something you worry about? >> yes, because i don't plan of getting rid of my hair style
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soon and i'm a junior, so i'll be leading a&t and going into the job force soon. >> reporter: you have to be clear about jobs and things like that. jobs, student debt and these are the issues they want to hear from both candidates. >> thank you very much. a beautiful campus there. coming up, shocking allegations from the university of wisconsin. several women accused one male student of sexual assault. the suspect is in court today for a bail hearing. get you caught up on this story and plus, a dramatic and unexpected moment at last night's senate debate in maryland. did you see this? the green party candidate storms the stage demanding to be included. >> . >> thank you, if you wouldn't mind leaving the stage at this point to continue with this debate. >> she was polite about it.
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welcome back. a university of wisconsin student accused of sexually assaulting multiple women is due in court today. alec cook faces several charges after a woman told police he assaulted her in the apartment and after the charges filed, several other women came forward claiming cook had assaulted them as well. gabe gutierrez is live for us in madison, wisconsin. and gabe, authorities are pointing to some information they say they recovered from this man's home. >> reporter: yes, that's right. it's a disturbing discovery. they found a black book in his
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night stand. that student is due in court this afternoon for a bail hearing. attorneys blame social media for the judgment but dozens of women have come forward asking to speak to them. the university of wisconsin is in shock as multiple women accuse a student of sexual assault. >> it's been pretty devastating. >> reporter: so far, alec cook faces nine charges involving four women but prosecutors say many more counts are possible. investigators searching his apartment say they found a black book in his night stand with names of women he met, describing in a very systemic way what he wanted to do with them. according to the search warrant, disturbingly enough, there were statements of "kill "and statements of sexual zpiers. the first women said he strangled and assaulted her for more than two hours at his
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apartment on october 12 and news of his arrest spread around campus, another woman came forward claiming he's assaulted her too back in february. >> she saw him in news coverage and felt compelled to come forward and explain what happened. and we're glad she did. she's very brave to do so. >> reporter: cook's attorneys deny the allegations and say it's a 22-year-old business major with no criminal history that's seemingly been charged, convicted by a rapid fire internet news cycle. blind acceptance without hearing testimony or seeing physical evidence leads to the stig matizatistigmatiz stigmatization of innocent people. but here in madison, outrage is mounting. >> we just keep hearing more and more about it. there's multiple people who have been affected by it and i guess it just gets more and more
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sickening as we hear what happened. >> reporter: investigators say the sexual assault allegations date back of march of last year. cook has been suspended from the university and now banned from campus. >> dave, thank you very much. scary moments for boston commuters during the afternoon rush hour yesterday. look at stories around the nation this morning. many riders panicked when a train on the sicity's orange li, some even broke open doors to escape. investigators say five people were treated for smoke inhalation and commuter rail service is oerperating normally today. chicago cubs beat cleveland 5-1 last night in game two of the series. cleveland won the series opener. game three. tomorrow night, chicago. polling from the last few weeks shows support for third party candidates like libertarian gary johnson and the green party's jill stein who's
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we are back with our daily briefing for you this morning. one of the big headlines is a reported memo that nbc first said reinforces the worst perceptions of the clintons released yesterday by wikileaks and was written in 2011 but doug band. that's a top aide to clinton at the time detailing the tens of millions he brought in for the former president. nbc news has not authenticated the memo and won't confirm the e-mail if it says he was hacked by the russian government to influence the election. that's their consistent statement on the leaks but the first points out that the clinton campaign will have to speak out. nbc senior political editor mark murray. i was reading a tweet saying our
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view, quantity and quality of wikileaks podesta e-mails coverage is increasing as better journalists lead the way so they're calling on journalists to report more, they say, on these e-mails, this memo with band as well and you think it's time that the clintons speak out. >> and tamron, the clinton campaign has had this blanket statement on we're not going to authenticate whether it was real or not. the one problem in this story is that doug band's company, the company he founded teneo essentially awe heuthenticated . saying here's our response to it. that puts the clinton campaign in line and with the memo pretty much showed that how a lot of the donations to the clinton foundation were also interchangeable with the clinton business and as well as doug
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band's business with teneo. yet to be a memo that shows a quid pro quo or any kind of interest was done for favors when hillary clinton was secretary of state. that's important to note here but this isn't the kind of story with the clinton campaign doesn't want to have to deal with that you don't want in the final stretch before the presidential election. although i will also note that this kind of reporting in particular with doug band is something a lot of political journalists who have been covering the clintons have reported on in the past. >> let's talk about third party choices. we're seeing a dip for the third party candidates. where are we now with people having this option and interest? >> tamron, the percentages have been going down for both gary johnson and jill stein. poll of new hampshire puts this very well. gary johnson at 15% in september and now down to 10%. this seems to be benefitting hillary clinton a little bit
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more than donald trump. our polling has shown that the gary johnson vote is pretty much split evenly between hillary clinton and donald trump on who it takes away from but the jill stein vote disproportionately takes away from hillary clinton. that helps hillary clinton a little bit if the number goes down and shouldn't be surprised because jill stein and gary johnson weren't at the presidential debates. we've seen the gaffes that gary johnson has made and a concerted effort by barack obama, bernie sanders and mike pence to say any vote for a third party helps our opponent. vote for either trump or for hillary clinton. i think that message is resonating. >> thank you very much. speaking of messages that might resonate. hillary clinton will be with the most powerful surrogate of the general election cycle. michelle obama. press secretary calls the first lady an absolute rock star. account first joint appearance
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in north carolina later today when hillary clinton is joined for the first time on stage by first lady michelle obama. nbc's chris jansing joins me now. she's actually on the dnc bus headed to the event. they have a push for early voting as well. what's some of the reaction, chris, so far, to what we see play out later this afternoon? >> reporter: they have a crowd fired up. the lines have been so long, it's hard to imagine that the first person got here at 10:00 last night. that's how much she wanted to see hillary clinton and that's why members of the congressional black caucus are here and jessie jackson as well part of the big effort to take the dnc to 15
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different states with the get out the vote effort. i want to talk to a couple of members as the push has been on for particularly women. the congresswoman running for reelection here. why do you think it's important for hillary clinton and for the first lady to be here? what can they accomplish? >> first of all, they've both been first ladies. understand what it is to actually be the president, having seen it from the inside out. but i think it sets the tone for our nation that a woman's place is every place and every house and every office including the oval office. so we're excited that we're going to make history getting hillary clinton elected to be our commander in chief and the first woman elected to the presidency. we're happy that north carolina is going to turn out. we'll make the difference. this is a battleground state. we intend to win this battle. >> reporter: bonnie watson komen, what are you doing today?
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>> reminding students this is about their future. there's so much at stake here whether or not it's affordability and accessibility for higher education and whether or not it's women and the right to choose, decisions about reproductive issues. whether it's economic opportunity and leveling of the playing field. we're here to remind people how urgent it is to get out to vote and how the stakes are higher than we've ever experienced. the consequences of this election are monumental. >> reporter: we'll let you guys go out. it's interesting she mentioned colleges because this bus has focused on two things. one is college campuses. the other is the african-american vote. so we're going to head out here. one of the things we're seeing here in north carolina is just how close this vote has been. three key offices here, you've got governor.
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you've got senate. and the presidency, obviously. and those three are all right now too close to call. so as i was going down, up and down the line earlier this morning and asking people whether they had voted yet, i was getting probably half and half. early voting has been strong here. you can see the crowd excited. they've been waiting for this. early voting has been strong but the democrats feel like now, today, since they more than doubled the number of early voting in this place having recognizable faces like this in the crowd will motivate the people who have not yet voted to do it now. >> what a line out there, chris. we'll see obviously more people showing up as the day continues. thank you so much, chris, and secretary of state john kerry talking about how this election has divided our country. >> whatever happens in the next two weeks, our country is going
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to have to begin a process of healing, reconnecting with one another, of listening, of forgiving, and remembering that every action we take as being carefully observed by our global allies and adversaries. and what they see will have a direct impact on our future ability to be able to lead. >> and that was secretary kerry last night. he called for coming together and caring for each other in our communities no matter what beliefs and that message resonates with a lot of people. particularly our next guest. it's our born in the usa series where we highlight small business success stories and today, we look at one business trying to bring americans together. one issue and one step at a time. common ground makes footwear promoting gender equality and immigration reform and gun violence reform. it's meant to be a conversation starter that we are all walking through this life together.
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joining me now from portland, john. thank you so much for your time. >> oh, thanks for having me. >> i have some of the shoes here in front of me. they are lovely. but i want a real heart to heart conversation here basis you talk about, for example, gun violence reform, immigration reform. while, you know, we would think there could be some common ground, we've seen no legislation move on either of those topics. why do you feel optimistic that the shoes can bring about something congress has not been able to? >> we believe that lasting social change comes about as a result of how we treat each other as individuals. the steps that we take as individuals and treats each other and understanding each other. despite what might be happening at the congressional level, you have the chance for real progress. >> when you look at our electorate, right now, the race is so close between hillary clinton and donald trump, based
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on just that we are a divided country, we're divided when it comes to gun reform. we're divided on immigration reform. and some numbers with guns, split down the middle. how do you think, again, that if you're at work or you're on facebook, that these shoes can prompt a civil conversation that might turn into change when, again, just pointing to the reality, we're not seeing it? >> well, i think we all have to realize there's three core principles that are important. the first one is that we have to take the time to truly walk in the shoes of another person and imagine things from their viewpoint and their perspective. the second thing we need to do is remember that just like two shoes, we have to work together to make progress. if you want to take the one shoe path, you can't get very far and i think the third thing we want to remember is that our ability as individuals to impact the lives of others is tremendous. the impact we have on other individuals can make a
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difference and can contribute to the progress we want to see. >> i understand the employees have taken great pride in hiring locally and really worried abous as well as some of these issues seen as social issues. >> yes, we believe that -- we are based in portland, oregon. as supporters of our own community, we make a great effort to hire from within our community. luckily for us, portland is a mecca for footwear company, so we have a lot of design and footwear talent to pull from. >> these are beautiful shoes. certainly hope they can provide a path or a step in the right direction as far as conversation. it seems like we sorely need it these days. congratulations on the company, john. >> thank you very much. coming up, we're going live to one florida county that's been reliably republican until, perhaps, this year.
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we are less than two weeks out from the election. you you know that. all eyes have been on florida, at least one of them -- one of your eyes. it's one of the key battleground states in the nation, i should say. we're following the ground effort in polk county, florida, right in the heart of the state's swing region, i-4 corridor. we talked about the battleground states, we talked about florida. i think this is one of the most interesting angles because it includes a conversation on puerto rican voters and their influence there. >> reporter: that's right, tamron. polk county, where i am now, has an influx of puerto rican voters. that may change the demographics here. this county specifically that
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sits in the middle of that i-4 corridor you were talking about, it has voted republican for the past two elections. i wanted to give our viewers at home a firsthand look at the get out the vote efforts for the trump campaign less than two weeks before the election in this must win state. i'm here with state senator kelly stargell. what do the get out the vote kam pans look like and how do they look different this year? >> we have phone banks, walkers going door to door, asking individuals if they voted, making sure they turn in their absentee or vote early. those things have traditionally gone on. in addition to, that i think the trump campaign has another mechanism, the fact i can't explain. the fact he's able to turn 20,000 people out to the amphitheater in tampa a few days out. the fact people are parking on the side of the road in tallahassee, abandoning their
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car and walking to a rally. i don't know how all that -- how that mechanism is working. that response has been untraditional and like nothing i've ever seen. >> reporter: that so much, state senator. i want to quickly go to a voter, linda here, because she came in casually looking for yard signs. just want to ask you real quick, have you gotten any literature at home or phone calls from the trump campaign? >> i've gotten a couple, yes. >> reporter: that is the get out the vote efforts from this crucial i-4 corridor. >> thank you very much. we'll be right back. ♪
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edition of "andrea mitchell reports" from the campus of wake forest, winston-salem, north carolina, michelle obama, appearing for the first time with hillary clinton today with obama's trademark takedown of donald trump. >> when they go low, we go -- >> high! >> yes, we do. >> are you all with me? you ready to roll up your sleeves? >> bill clinton, inc., is threatening to overshadow today's big event. an e-mail leaked by wikileaks. >> reporter: this is an optics problem for the clinton campaign, for the clinton foundation. it feeds into this narrative there's something untrustworthy about south korea clinton about how she's handled her campaign. 12-day forecast. only a dozens days to go. trump and clinton playing the expectations game.

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