tv The 11th Hour With Brian Williams MSNBC October 27, 2016 11:00pm-11:31pm PDT
here in new york state as we fought against fracking, and i've never been around such a decent group of people. >> that was my experience out there too, thank you. really appreciate it. that's it for the last word tonight, the 11 hour with brian williams is live, and it is next. the breaking news tonight, some scary moments on the "the 11th hour" begins now. good evening. a lot to talk about here in new york. tomorrow morning will put us just 11 days out from election day. we begin with breaking news from, of all places, laguardia airport, where the plane
carrying vp candidate mike pence skidded off the runway and skidded right on to something called an arrester bid, installed a decade ago and designed to stop a jet liner at the end of a runway before it hits the fence. happily, there were no injuries. the weather has been terrible all day in new york. this is what radar looked like tonight. heavy rains, changeable winds. and laguardia runways are short by commercial standards. the charter 737 carried pence and his family, his staff, a couple of shifts of secret service, and the news media. pence wrote on twitter his thanks that no one was hurt. also thanked the first responders on the scene for all they did. his running mate at the top of the ticket, donald trump, also commented at the end of his late rally tonight. >> i just spoke to our future
vice president, and he's okay. you know, he was in a big accident with a plane. the plane skidded off the runway, and was pretty close to grave, grave danger. but i just spoke to mike pence, and he's fine. [ applause ] he got out, everybody is fine. but what a great decision it was to get mike pence, what a great guy he is. what a great job he's doing. >> donald trump at tonight's rally. among those on the aircraft, nbc's vaughn hilliard, who is our campaign embed covering the pence campaign. we are happy to say he's here with us, very much alive and in the studio. vaughn, we are glad you're here. when did things start to go squirrely? i hear that it was kind of a sporty landing, and maybe it fish tails a little bit coming down the runway. >> we knew there was bad weather, because the flight was delayed coming out of iowa. it took off, there was an original bounce off the tarmac.
the odd part is this has become norm wall the campaign plane. we've come to expect rough landings with this particular 737. but it swerved off to the right and you're looking out the window and you see the road 50, 100 yards and came to a dead stop. that's when we looked out the window and you could see the gas station and we realized this time we were off the tarmac. >> you were looking right at the grand central parkway. at laguardia, it's either the highway or the water, surrounded on all sides. thus what looks like this caked heavy snow on the ground, this is a kind of porous concrete that did its job tonight. it has been there for a decade. it's supposed to stop a plane in its tracks. so what about trump's wording that you came close to grave, grave danger? i suppose while this thing was coming to a rest, it might have felt this way.
>> you could smell the rubber. as we started to veer off and suddenly come to the complete stand still, to be honest with you, the governor got up quickly, he came to the back, wanted to make sure everybody was okay. to be honest with you, the campaign and the staff have gotten used to these rough landings. he came back, everybody was safe. then you see the firefighters come on to the plane saying everybody please get off and that's where you're seeing everything that is torn up and you see the road and i believe that gas station over there. that's when it was reality that we were close to something a little bit more serious. >> as much as i hate to say it, it's written about sporadically, the fact that per capita, we've lost a lot of politicians and rock stars, and what their deaths often have in common, charter aircraft, we got a late event, we can rush the weather. it happens. you guys are living in the air these days. >> nebraska to iowa to new york.
tomorrow, north carolina, new hampshire. we're up and down constantly on this plane. >> have you called home if >> i called home. i told them we had to get the camera set up first. >> he's fine. he looks like a million bucks. vaughn, great to have you here. thank you very much. >> sorry for the lack of a tie. >> quite all right. you were on the job. we turn now to another political story just breaking, this one about the clinton campaign tonight, just moments ago in fact, this new report came out from politico. you see the headline, "clinton eyes biden for secretary of state." the report notes that the current vice president is at the top of the clinton's campaign so-called short list for potential secretaries of state, were clinton to win the white house. it is fair to assume her secretary of state would be an integral part of her inner
circle, given the four years she spent doing that job every day. nicolle wallace is here with us to take on this story and much more. my favorite line in this story is, neither clinton nor her aides have yet told biden. let's consider biden told. >> i can confirm that he's seen the story. >> let's also assume you're in a transition for what they think will be -- what they hope will be a winning campaign. this is going to be a guy on short lists for more than one job, correct? >> and you've covered more than a few transitions and you understand that a transition team is separated from the campaign. the campaign, they're focused on win thing election. they have not turned to staffing up in any way, shape or form. they also point out it would be more remarkable if joe biden, who spent his career in the senate on the foreign relations committee, was not on the list to be the secretary of state. he's one of the most experienced individuals in this area and one
of the leading voices in the country on matters of foreign policy. from a source close to joe biden, there is some openness to continuing to serve, because of the nature of his role today. today he's deeply embroiled in the crisis in syria, and what became his portfolio as vice president was a big basket of foreign policy. >> but they are so worried about complacency, stories like this. >> this is not a story they wanted out there. and this is not their focus from the campaign's perspective. there is a separate staff, a transition is something that donald trump has also with staff that is not flying around him, kellyanne conway is not part of that operation, chris christie is. but the transition is a separate organization and this is not the campaign's focus tonight. >> don't move an inch, we have miles to go before we stop talking. turning to trump, the republican
nominee was on the trail in ohio today. while attacking his opponent, wondered allowed why we still even need to hold this election. >> hillary clinton wants to raise taxes on small businesses up to 45%. [ crowd booing ] what a difference. you know, what a difference this is. in just thinking to myself right now, we just should cancel the election and just give it to trump, right? [ applause ] what are we having it for? her policies are so bad. >> also with us tonight, one of the two authors of today's must-read political story out of bloomberg business week about this trump campaign. it gives us a first-time look into the "digital nerve center of the trump operation" and before we talk to the co-author, in this report, we meet a trump team that knows it has, shall we say, a tough hill to climb to get to 270 and beyond.
here's a quote, despite trump's claim that he doesn't believe the polls, his san antonio research team spends $100,000 a week on surveys, and has sophisticated models that run daily simulations of the election. the results mirror those of the more reliable public forecasters. in other words, trump's staff knows he's losing badly. business week also reports team trump is working to keep some likely clinton voters away from the ballot box. this had been whispered about but not said explicitly. "we have three major voter suppression operations under way," says a senior official. "they're aimed at three groups clinton needs to win overwhelmingly. idealistic white liberals, young women, and african-americans." trump's senior communications adviser shot down that report, speaking to halle jackson saying "we want everyone who can legally vote to show up."
well, joining us now from d.c., post national political reporter robert costa, and as promised, josh green, national correspondent for bloomberg business week who wrote the piece we were just quoting. it's arresting to read the peace and arresting to talk about voter suppression. you want to say, you know people can hear you. >> first, i would like to say the trump campaign didn't shoot anything down. what jason miller said was, the person who told that to business week was not authorized to say it. so let's be clear, nobody is pushing back on the story or refuting anything we're reporting. they're saying gee, unfortunate choice of words. i think it was an unfortunate choice of words. voter suppression is a loaded term. what they're doing more is like dissuading, people, if they
showed up at the polls, would be likely to vote for hillary clinton, but certainly aren't going to do that unless they're either driven out by the clinton campaign or convinced to go to vote. but they could also possibly with a bit of negative information be convinced to not go vote. that is the type of voter that the trump campaign is trying to dissuade. they think if they can drive out their own vote and keep hillary's vote down, there is a path to victory. i talked to a trump campaign official today who said our path is tough but doable. >> robert costa, benjamin cramer used to talk about the emotional moment where someone went to the candidate, usually on a plane, usually exhausted, sometimes a couple days out, sometimes on the eve of the election, and had the talk and said, it's not going to happen, boss, it's not going to happen.
do you get the feeling it's been a kind of a slow motion car accident in effect in this campaign, if the finding of josh's article, among other findings, is correct? >> if only richard ben cramer was around to write about this election. i think for trump what it takes right now, brian, is a very narrow path. and josh's article is spot-on, because the trump campaign believes if the obama coalition is able to be reassembled by secretary clinton in places like pennsylvania, it becomes nearly impossible for donald trump to win. so he needs some of those core obama voters to stay home. at the same time, for white working class voters in the rust belt to come out in record numbers for donald trump. >> josh, not to take you to a conclusion you don't arrive at, but what -- assuming the trump campaign is not victorious, what has it all been about? what does the vibe in san antonio tell you about the undercurrent, the driving mechanics here?
>> i mean, the vibe quite frankly was determination and excitement. i've been in campaigns where it is clear that a loss is coming, and that is not the feeling at all in trump digital headquarters in san antonio. but i think as we say in this piece, they're looking past the election, whether they win or not. and what trump has built here in this san antonio operation, which is impressive, is this large audience of people whose names and e-mail addresses and in some cases, credit card numbers, he owns. so this is an audience that could conceivably be transported to a trump social media network or some other platform donald trump could take and work from, if he wants to continue on in politics and in media. and all the indications i got from people around trump is he is not going to walk away if he loses the election. he wants to continue to exert his influence on american politics.
>> i want to give voice to your nodding. >> i think we've learned a lot about what these final weeks are like for him. he does not have a path to 270. steve kornacki laid out clearly, his best case scenario is to a maximum of 265. but he also said in his own words at the beginning of this campaign, it will have all been for naught if he loses. we know about the tapes that were turned over to "the new york times" that saving face is essential to who he is. a saving face way out would be to do exactly what is described in this piece, to turn it into something bigger, to turn it into a new and more worthy mission, and in his eyes, a business venture is probably something that he can easily and authentically spin into a more noble mission. >> robert costa, i've asked you this before, but like our coverage of the last hurricane that ran up the coast of florida, are we seeing a tightening at the core in trump land? >> one of the things that is evident is the influence of steve bannon.
this is a candidate who remains mostly isolated from the republican party. and that has consequences moving forward. he doesn't feel a deep affiliation withhe's a populist an incendiary outsider. >> josh, thank you very much for coming on tonight. let's just think what richard ben cramer could do metaphorically with a plane off the runway vis-a-vie this campaign. robert costa, ditto from "the washington post." nicole will stick around. our first break, coming up, a current and former first lady together on the campaign trail today. this is "the 11th hour" on msnbc.
teachers, nurses and firefightes support prop 51. prop 51 will upgrade libraries, science labs, and classroom technology and relieve school overcrowding creating more opportunity . . . and better learning for students help students succeed vote yes on 51. keeping the power lines clear,my job to protect public safety, while also protecting the environment. the natural world is a beautiful thing, the work that we do helps us protect it. public education is definitely a big part of our job, to teach our customers about the best type of trees to plant around the power lines. we want to keep the power on for our customers. we want to keep our community safe. this is our community, this is where we live. we need to make sure that we have a beautiful place for our children to live. together, we're building a better california. teachers, firefighters and nurss support prop 51. prop 51 repairs older schools and removes dangerous lead paint and pipes
ensuring classrooms are safe for all students. for safe schools vote yes on 51. but indeed, dignity and respect for women and girls is also on the ballot in this election. and i want to thank our first lady for her eloquent, powerful defense of that basic value. >> this is not about republicans versus democrats.
none of that matters this time around. no, no, this election is about something much bigger. it's about who will shape our children in the country we leave for them, not for the next four or eight years but for the rest of their lives. >> the woman with about the highest approval rating of anyone in public life, michelle obama campaigning with and alongside hillary clinton. clinton, of course, and trump have the lowest approval ratings of any two candidates opposed to each other in presidential election history. nicolle wallace remains here in the studio with us. i want to welcome mac a national reporter for "the new york times" who covers national politics and social justice issues. welcome. it was something that we heard tonight from donald trump that compels our attention. i'm going to play it. we'll also listen to it and react.
>> and we're going to work -- you take a look at what's going on where you have pockets of -- areas of land, where you have the inner cities and you have so many things, so many problems, so many horrible, horrible problems. the violence, the death, the lack of education, no jobs. we're going to work with the african-american community and we're going to solve the problem of the inner city. >> where to begin? >> i think where we begin is this idea that a lot of people feel highly offended by the way this is the way donald trump is appealing to african-americans, the america that he thinks african-americans live in just doesn't really exist for a lot of the people i talk to. i just wrote a story about the fact that a lot of african-americans see donald trump as just an example of a lot of the people that they've had to deal with in their lives. i've talked to people who said
their teachers said they -- going to die in third grade before they turned 18. so this is a deeply, personal thing for a lot of african-americans. that's why he's polling at about 4% with african-american voters. >> i was going to say something sarcastic. how comforting to know there are no know will be white and hispanic people living in the nation's inner cities. >> that's what he's implying. there are rural parts in pennsylvania and ohio that they're dealing with the same thing. >> for nicolle, i have cued up a special moment that unfolded in front of george stephanopoulos. this is his interview with the trumps. >> i might join him. we will see. >> she's actually going to make two or three speeches. >> oh! >> she's amazing.
>> breaking news to mrs. trump, apparently. >> she is amazing. and i have to say, there was a moment he gave a speech at the al smith charity dinner, the one really funny joke he made was at her experience. she's been remarkably graceful at what has to have been so painful for her to go through. he obvious hi didn't talk about doing two or three speeches before he announced it in that interview with george stephanopoulos. so she considers to be remarkable to me as somebody standing by someone that has to be excruciating. it's always harder on the spouses than the candidate themselves, no matter the crisis or anything else. >> and this can be said clinically, the bench strength on the democratic side, the surrogates beginning with the first lady, i don't know anyone
in public life with a higher approval rating right now. >> yeah. you look at who hillary clinton can turn to, to make her case, she can go down the line, including bernie sanders, who has a lot of weight among young voters and you turn to michelle obama, she can make the closing arguments for democrats. at the end of the day this is not about politics, and she's saying he's going low, we need to go high as a country. so that's appealing to not just african-americans but americans as a whole. >> i watched today and i remember the speech that she gave after his access hollywood came out and i said it was perfect. i thought today was even better, because she was sort of addressing some disaffection within the obama coalition. is that possible for her to get better? >> i think he's definitely getting stronger. i think the idea is everybody was wondering how much are you
going to see of michelle obama? she wasn't really someone who wanted to campaign heavily. but this idea is she's motivated by the fact that she's making the case also for obama's legacy. she doesn't want the person who comes after her husband to be the person who is saying that her husband was almost an illegitimate president because he supposedly wasn't born in this country. so i think he is getting into his stride there. also the energy is there, and i think what's important is, hillary clinton spoke first today. and that to me was in some ways surprising, because hillary clinton i think is acknowledging even in the placement of where she went, i don't want to speak after michelle obama, i'm going to let her give the closing argument. i think that's remarkable for a candidate to do that. >> thank you both for being part of our conversation tonight. last break, we're back with something of interest from last night in the city right after this. . cleagets tou on dt and ime and grease in just a minute
because we can use good news, the last thing before we go tonight is a reminder that heroism is all around us. last night, first responders across this country did what they do, they rushed to take care of us and protect all of us. but one emergency in particular stood out. it was a terrible apartment building fire here in new york. one man was killed, several more injured, including 11 firefighters. at the height of it all, an 81-year-old man on the top floor was trapped by flames, suffering from burns.
but the men from the new york city firehouse rescue one came to his rescue. one of them, firefighter jim lee, repelled down the side on a 150 foot rope. and despite the rope starting to burn, grabbed the man, lowered him to the sidewalk. 15 seconds later the rope burned through and fell to the ground. it was a heroic night for the fdny, or as they call it, wednesday. tonight was another one, when the plane carrying mike pence came to a rest at the end of the runway. that's our broadcast. "hardball" begins right now. something about women. let's play "hardball."