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strong probability to win the election. maybe this fbi story this weekend will be the one last test of political fitness, not because of what it contains because we won't know that until afterward. because of how this pair of candidates handle it. keep watching. that's "hardball" for now. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. >> tonight on "all in." >> donald trump says he can still win, and you know, he's right. >> yet another october surprise. the e-mails are back. >> even director comey noted that this new information may not be significant, so let's get it out. >> tonight pete williams on what we know about the fbi investigation, why we're finding out just days before the election, and what anthony weiner has to do with all of this. then, the campaign's react. >> the system is rigged. it might not be as rigged as i thought. >> my interview with trump campaign manage kellyanne
conway. and jennifer granholm from the clinton camp. and how does this change the race with 11 days to go? >> it is a shame! a shame! >> rebecca chaster on hillary clinton's historic run caught up in yet another man's sexual misconduct, when "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. happy friday. every time, every time you think this crazy presidential campaign can't possibly get any crazier, another stranger than fiction twist drops like a bomb. within the last hour, hillary clinton going before cameras to respond to today's revelations that the fbi continues to investigate her use of her private e-mail server as secretary of state challenging the director of the fbi to release more information and telling reporters she doesn't believe it will impact the results of the election. >> you know, i think people a long time ago made up their minds about the e-mails.
i think that's factored into what people think and now they're choosing a president. >> today, just 11 days before election day, fbi director james comey who announced in july the fbi had completed its investigation into clinton's use of e-mail and determined that no one should face criminal charges, sends this very cryptic letter to eight republican congressional committee chairman as well as the democratic ranking members stating, in connection with an unrelated case, the fbi has learned of the existence of e-mails that appear to be pertinent to the investigation. i am writing to inform you the investigative team briefed me on this yesterday and i agreed the fbi should take appropriate investigative steps designed to allow investigators to review these e-mails to determine whether they contain classified information as well as to assess their importance to our investigation. comey, who was assailed by house republicans in september for his decision not to charge clinton, added in the letter the fbi was not yet able to assess whether the new material was significant. but the media, political world and even stock market reacted as
though their hair had caught fire. the market falling nearly 1% right after the news broke seemingly on renewed fears of a donald trump presidency. house year sight chairman jason chaffetz who said he was already planning to investigate clinton for years if she became president and saying that he was going to be voting for donald trump after he couldn't look his daughters in the eye and still back him. tweeted that the case was reopened. more on that in a bit. donald trump read a statement about the breaking news off a teleprompter prompting cheers of, you guessed it, lock her up, from the audience. >> hillary clinton's corruption is on a scale we have never seen before. we must not let her take her criminal scheme into the oval offi office. i have great respect for the
fact that the fbi and the department of justice are now willing to have the courage to right the horrible mistake that they made. >> trump, who has sought to explain away his potential loss by claiming the election is rigged, said last night, that, quote, i think the biggest rigging of all is what happened with the fbi and the justice department with respect to hillary clinton. today he changed his tune. >> it might not be as rigged as i thought, right? right? the fbi, i think they're going to right the ship, folks, i think they're going to right the ship. >> short time later amid feverish speculation over what exactly had been found, nbc's pete williams provided some desperately needed context including the case was not being reopened because it had never technically been closed. >> there's sort of two questions here. one is would these new e-mails
change the bottom line conclusion about whether crimes were committed. and if it's just the number of e-mails changed that i can't remember what the number was, but instead of 120, it's 135, then that probably wouldn't change anything. the second question would be whether anyone was withholding evidence, but what i'm told by senior officials who are familiar with the thinking behind this letter, they don't see any evidence of that. this is not a matter, they say it doesn't appear that the campaign or the clintons or the state department had e-mails and, you know, that they didn't give to the fbi and that the fbi somehow found them some other way, it's not like that, they say. >> in her remarks this evening clinton said fbi director comey needs to be far more forthcoming than he was in his letter. >> we are 11 days out from perhaps the most important national election of our lifetimes. voting is already under way in
our country. so the american people deserve to get the full and complete facts immediately. the director himself has said he doesn't know whether the e-mails referenced in his letter are significant or not. i'm confident, whatever they are, will not change the conclusion reached in july. therefore, it's imperative that the bureau explain this issue in question, whatever it is, without any delay. >> clinton declined to address a twist that nbc news confirmed this afternoon, one that if this were a story in a screenplay would have been cut out of the first draft for being too unbelievable. multiple federal officials telling the e-mails referred to in the letter were founds a part of an ongoing investigation into former congressman anthony weiner who sources told nbc news last month is under investigation by federal prosecutors in manhattan for alleged sexts to a 15-year-old girl. weiner is the estranged husband
of hillary clinton aid huma abedin. and said that they were found on a laptop that hillary used to send the text messages. and abedin used the same laptop to send e-mailless to clinton. joining me is nbc news' invaluable white house correspondent pete williams. first of all, this is insane. second of all, take me through this. there's an investigation happening of anthony weiner pursue want to allegations in that press that he had sex with underaged girls. then what happens? >> i'm going to actually start you one step before that and ask why these e-mails would be, as director comey says in his letter, pertinent to the e-mail investigation. and it's not because the fbi knows what's on them. that's the thing to keep in mind here as we go through all this. the fbi's mission in investigating the e-mail case
was to look at the universe of e-mails that were sent and received on hillary clinton's private server. and they thought they had that universe. now it turns the out that there may be, may be additional e-mails that they need to look at. so what they decided is to tell congress about this. and the reason is that, as you point out, the fbi was investigating whether anthony weiner was improperly sending explicit text messages and pictures to this underaged girl. they concluded that he used a laptop computer to send some of those messages. then they discovered, after getting the laptop and starting to look at it, that huma abedin had also used that same laptop to e-mail hillary clinton at the private server e-mail address. so now there's potentially thousands of e-mails on that computer backed up to that computer that they need to look at and see whether they contain classified information. in other words, they need to examine those e-mails just like they examined all the thousands of others. so that's the mission here.
they now say they're starting to do that. they'll look through them. but they have no idea yet whether they contain classified information or not. and another thing to bear in mind here, chris, is that many of these could be duplicates because the fbi looked at the e-mails, many e-mails already between huma abedin and hillary clinton. so many of these on the laptop could be duplicates and, of course, whether they contain classified information or not is to be determined. >> quickly, from a legal perspective, i'd seen some idea that there might need a court order for this. obviously, they have one investigation that's nothing to do with the other investigation. they happened upon this laptop for that first investigation. do they need any kind of legal go ahead from a judge to say, yes, you can go look at those other e-mails? >> i'm not sure about need because the legal experts i've talked to say maybe not. but in any event, i'm told that the fbi is going to -- did go ahead and get an additional
search warrant just to be sure because they were looking at the e-mails to see what anthony weiner did with that laptop. just to be sure they're getting a separate or i guess have gotten a separate search warrant the look at the rest of it. >> pete williams, amazing reporting today. thanks for making time tonight. i appreciate it. >> you bet. >> joining me matthew miller, the former director of public affairs under attorney general eric holder as well as former michigan governor jennifer granholm who is co-chair of hillary clinton's transition team. matt, let me start with you. we had you back on the program back when james comey made his announcement. you've been very critical of how the director has handled this investigation. you were very critical today. playing devil's advocate, investigator walks in yesterday and says, this is what we got, boss. what is he supposed to do? if he doesn't say something and the election goes by and they find out retroactively, he's going be dragged before congress. >> he should do what he would do in any other case involving any other individual, which is if there's something they need to
investigate and maybe there is and maybe there isn't, but if there's something you need to investigate, you do it quietly, you do it as quickly as you can, and then when the investigation is done, you decide whether there's something you need to say. it's true that he would have been attacked by republican members of congress afterwards, but you know what? that's part of the job. you do the tough calls and then you make the tough calls, then you take the heat for it afterwards. instead what he's done is made this really unprecedented disclosure, something i've never seen an fbi director or attorney general or the department of justice do in a case like this and he actually hasn't provided voters any information. they don't know any more about underlying activity today than they did yesterday. all they said was they're looking at something and raised a bunch of questions to which there are no answers. completely inappropriate. >> jennifer, obviously the trump campaign is feeling very happy about the news. they've had their surrogates out today. i have an interview with kellyanne conway in a little bit.
this confirms, they say, in voters' minds their suspicions about hillary clinton. what's your response to those who are saying, this is it, this is the october surprise? donald trump's on the steam path to victory. >> we don't know what this is. that's the problem. director comey opened the door, put one foot out by putting this letter out there, and he has not gone through. this is what's not fair about it. and this is where we have bipartisan agreement. both sides want him to explain further what this means. we know it's not about e-mails from hillary clinton. we know it's not about her server. we know that they can't -- they haven't determined whether there's any significance to this information. so what is it? you can't put something out 11 days before a presidential election that has an impact on the election. in fact, matt comes from the department of justice. i'm a former attorney general and a former federal prosecutor. and the rules related to how a prosecutor or an investigator is
to act in the face of an election are really quite clear. you are to limit the impact on the election. by using your discretion. but in this case, there is no evidence of any wrongdoing on her part. and so this -- if he's going to open this door, he has got to come clean and present more information. >> matthew, you worked the department of justice. this struck me today. and i haven't been around that long. but just totally unprecedented in every conceivable way. have you ever seen anything like this? >> no, absolutely not. and the governor is exactly right. she's a former prosecutor. first of all, when the fbi conducting investigations like this, they're not supposed to comment on them anyway and especially not so close to the election. there's a longstanding practice at doj that they go out of their way not to say anything close to election day. usually they define that within 60 days, let alone 11 days. to come forward now and make this public statement just flies
in the face of everything the department of justice has done for years and the way that prosecutors have always been taught to conduct themselves. and it's really hard -- it's going to be really hard for him to explain why this was an appropriate step for him to take. i've heard from prosecutors all day, not just democratic but republicans, former colleagues of mine at the department of justice who are just appalled by what he did today. >> chris, as we say, we don't know what's in these e-mails, but we do know that the aides to hillary clinton, their work e-mails have already been looked at by the fbi. if these are all duplicates -- >> right. >> -- tell us. if they have a marker on them, which you should be able to ski quickly. are they classified by a marker on the top, you should be able to tell that. there are ways to take some things off the table if you have these documents in your hand instead of allowing it to impact the election in a negative way,
either way. >> now that comey is sort of half in, half out here, do you expect we'll see anything from him before the election to bring some sort of closure to this? >> i hope so. it's really incumbent upon it. it's an imperfect solution to a terrible problem. never should have done this in first place but now that he's opened the door he has to come clean with what the fbi is looking at, what they know and what they don't know. if they are doing this just because they have some e-mails, they need to come out and say that as soon as possible. >> thank you both very much. coming up, after deriding the fbi's system, how is the campaign reacting to the news? kellyanne conway joins me after this two-minute break. coachingeans making tough choices.jim! yo' but when you have high be and need cold cine at works fast, the choice is simple. coricidin hbis the only brand
of justice that the american people fully understood and it is everybody's hope that it is about to be corrected. >> a short time after the fbi said it would be looking into e-mails that appear to be related to hillary clinton's use of a private e-mail server, donald trump praised the fbi for, quote, having the courage to right a horrible mistake. i spoke with trump's campaign manager kellyanne conway tonight. i began by asking her how her candidate saying yesterday the fbi investigation into clinton was the biggest rigging of all time and what he said today. >> well, donald trump and i agree on this. actually, today he also praised fbi director comey for doing the right thing based on what we understand to be new evidence, a different investigation, and i think jim comey was in a very tough spot here, chris. if he had sat on the information for the 11 days, people would have criticized him after the fact and said, wow, you withheld evidence that would have been important to the voters who
already call into question significantly hillary clinton's trustworthiness and ver atty. donald trump and i are on a single mind on this. it's not so much calling into question jim comey's integrity. it's listening to jim comey's own statement after he decided not to move forward with prosecuting hillary clinton the first time where he seemed to have almost buyer's remorse almost immediately when he said in congressional testimony, while she didn't have one device, she had 13, she had a server that she was not supposed to have, she destroyed evidence. we know that they smashed the phone devices with hammers. she did have national security info. she did have classified confidential information. everything she said by and large in the five or six points he laid out were not true. >> he chose not to prosecute her saying there was no precedent, no rational prosecutor could bring the case, then donald trump called for an investigation of that investigation and has repeatedly
said that there was collusion there, that it was corrupt and rigged, not just that it was a poor judgment. seems to me an important distinction whether someone makes a bad faith corrupt judgment or a good faith determination. your candidate has said a bad faith corrupt and rigged -- that's his word -- from this investigator and he should be investigated. >> in your whole line of questioning, i would suggest it it's not donald trump but hillary clinton who is under investigation. number two, what donald trump talks about every day is the rigged corrupt system overall. it works against the average man and woman, the forgotten man and woman. and today we have another example of that. look, everybody out there, i think they look crest fallen today. everybody's celebrating. >> there's another example of the rigged, corrupt system today? >> that hillary clinton has a
different set of rules for herself than the rest of us. that there are more devices we don't know about, more e-mails that are relevant to her time as secretary of state, it would seem. that's basically all we know about it. whether it's the last couple of days, the information that there's a bill clinton inc. desperately always wants to enrich with millions and millions dollars. they went from famously being dead boat to having millions of dollars. they didn't hit the powerball, they didn't invent anything, but selling access to government favor, selling speeches. the american people want to know why that is. the rigged system goes back to can you trust this person who is already miss handled national security information? 39 times she couldn't remember what she did. is that person fit or qualified to be president? the answer is no. >> i guess the reason i'm sort of focusing on comey today is because he's obviously made the news and how this plays out depends on him and this guy is a powerful and important figure he's the director of the fbi.
my question to you is the if fbi were to produce further documents or come forward and say the all clear on this, would you be willing to accept that since you've been praising his judgment and integrity today? >> praising it is a little bit much. i said it was courageous of him only because i think he was in a very difficult position and i saw tonight democratic officials criticizing jim comey, which is kind of funny now since they were praising him all along. but criticizing him not just for withholding information, as they say it, but also for interfering with an election. that's a pretty significant charge. we had a great day here in the trump campaign, we had a great few days here, we had a great week, we were going to win anyway. but this certainly deepens the doubt among many voters as to why they're reluctant to say hillary clinton -- why she's always stuck at 46% in the state polls, why majority of americans including nbc polling say that they don't trust her.
the trustworthy number only got worse since jim comey decided not to prosecute hoer. it wasn't as if his decision exonerated her veracity problems within the american mind. it's just actually never gotten better. events like today don't help. i thought her press conference was terrible, if you can call it that, the statement she made, 3 minutes and 47 seconds. the length of a b-side of a record. takes one question. seems defiant. >> interesting that she only took two questions. but it has been 93 days since donald trump has taken any questions in a press conference. do you think we'll see a press conference from him in the next 11 days? >> maybe. but he's taking his case to the voters. >> i saw you guys made a lot of the fact that hillary clinton didn't give press conferences. and we did, too, i think it's bad when candidates don't give press conferences. 11 days to go. one thing that donald trump has promised to release his tax returns when the audit is finished but there's 11 days to go. you're going to get to election
day without the tax returns being released? >> until the lawyers and accountants tell us to release them, we're under audit absolutely. i find it predictable but a little bit funny that that's what we're conflating today. people are trying hard to divert attention from what is a significant setback. >> i think the e-mail story is utterly fascinating which is why we spent 90% of our time talking about it. >> fascinating, the woman may be indicted or convicted or impeached. >> what information do you have suggest that? >> i don't. i said maybe. under investigation twice in the last year or so. pretty remarkable. when donald trump talks about all the shenanigans he points to specific examples. he points to the complete disconnect between jim comey's own testimony -- >> right. >> -- under oath and then five people associated with hillary clinton including her lawyer cheryl mills including the guy who called hillary clinton's server, you know, he knew what
he was doing, they all take the fifth. she hates the second amendment, loves the fifth amendment. >> that's a good line. >> sometimes the first amendment. it's not just a good line. it's the truth. there's a disconnect with bill clinton getting on, jumping on the plane on the tarmac in arizona, jumping on loretta lynch's plane, that makes people wonder. >> that's a perfect example. let's talk about the plane for a second. at one level you're saying we don't understand what's going on, your candidate's saying it's rigged, corrupt, part of this collusion. you just raised bill clinton jumping on the plane. the implication there is that this was improper. let's be clear about what's being alleged. maybe you're right. i'm not saying it's wrong. but you're alleging there was a corrupt and improper interference in this investigation from the beginning. that integrity of the chief law enforcement office of the federal government has been compromised in order to tip the election to hillary clinton. that's the contention of donald trump and has been for months. >> so we're talking about two separate investigations here.
i don't want them conflated at all let alone when i'm dressing th -- addressing them. the first was the one supposedly wrapped up on july 5th when comey said i'm not going to prosecute here. oh, by the way she lied about this and she was reckless and careless. that's the one where hillary clinton's husband, who happens to be a former president, jumps on the plane of the -- >> yes. the implication is that he improperly manipulated the investigation, gave the order to loretta lynch and gave the order to james comey -- >> i didn't say that. >> and under oath said that no one had talked to him about that. that's the chain that's being alleged. >> nope, i didn't say that. i would probably find other things to talk about other than, quote, the grandkids for 39 minutes. >> so you're saying he lied? >> no, i didn't say that. what i'm telling you is this is part of what holds so many of these voters back from going for
hurrican hillary clinton. everybody has tried as hard as they can to make sure these the next president of the united states. and this woman just can't do it. >> my thanks to kellyanne conway. rebecca tracer is here to talk about the historic campaign interrupted yet again by another man's sexual misconduct.
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i don't thank you there's ever been a presidential race in the country so completely centered on issues of sex and gender. the first woman nominated by a major party running against a thrice-married beauty pageant and the gender gap in polls. while men favor trump, the latest pew research survey women favor clinton by a 16 points. three weeks ago "the washington post" published the 2005 tape that features trump bragging about kissing and grabbing women without their consent. two days later we witness the spectacle of trump trotting out some of the women who abuse bill clinton of sexual misconduct. a clear attempt to humiliate his opponent. at that debate trump insisted the actiony he described on the
tape were locker room talk. but since then 12 women have come forward alleging he did to them almost exactly what he told billy bush he likes to do to women he finds attractive. now there's today's news that fbi director james comey turns up e-mails related to clinton's private e-mail server. the source of those new e-mails, an unrelated investigation into elicit text messages exchanged between a 15-year-old girl and anthony weiner, the estranged husband of hillary clinton's closest aide, huma abedin. on the eve of an election that could give us the first woman president of the united states. you have this piece earlier in the year, of course, it's donald trump. of course it would have to be donald trump to be the first woman would have to hurdle over like the billie jean king beating bobby riggs, this cartoonish misogynist. today we have an e-mail exchange. of course, of course it would be the case that down the stretch anthony weiner of all people,
would appear to possibly derail her. >> like the festival of problematic men. this is how we're going to mark the election of the first female president. remember, kicking off in the republican primaries that donald trump was the candidate who actually went on stage and talked about the size of his penis in a debate. we're concluding coming into the last lap, the final ten days with a man who is under completely separate investigation having nothing to do with a campaign for sending pictures of his own penis. >> to an underage, we should note, which is why there's a criminal investigation. >> in between there, you also have bill clinton, rudy giuliani who is out there talking about donald trump, you have newt gingrich. this is like a parade of sort of garbage guys. sorry. but i want to make a serious point which is we tend to take this whole category of stuff,
right -- >> right. >> the penis-related stuff -- >> yes. >> -- from the alleged sexting of an underaged girl, groping, bragging about groping to allegations of assault and rape. >> all of which -- i want to be clear and no one interprets us as making light of this. all of which are on the table here and all of which are extremely serious. >> and we tend to take that whole category of stuff and put it in this sordid corner of bad male behavior, right? but i want to make a point that it is completely appropriate and not coincidental that all this stuff is somehow in play either directly or tangentially within this election if where we are going to do this thing that the united states has never done before -- >> perhaps. >> we may do this thing that the united states has never done before, which is elect a woman president. that stuff is not in some little silo of sordid male behavior.
it is related to the kind of imbalance of power, the way that male public, political power has been associated with sexual power and power abuses, the way that women have been viewed and treated as objects having less power, less equality than the men who have behaved toward them in this way and that those are the bigger forces that have contributed to the kinds -- to the reasons why we haven't had a woman president yet, right? this is not unrelated. in is very related to the kind of bias that kept the presidency male for our entire 240 years of american political history. >> the society of america and patriarchy and the roles of gender that have produced a cadre of men who have risen to the very top of their respected fields and become public figures with tremendous power and who have also been alleged to have engaged in this wide variety of misconduct -- >> of sexual power abuses. >> -- sexual power abuses against women. >> right.
>> it is not the same society that produced that same cohort of men has also failed to produce a woman president. they're the same thing. >> deeply connected. we're looking at the same patterns. >> everybody's line today about i went into a subway, i got into a subway when it was the comey letter and i came up over ground when the weiner news broke. because everyone is like -- and i was like, this is a joke. this is not true. the whole thing today was this was some overwritten cosmic spectacle that the weiner problem has been brought back in, but in some ways it is perfect because this whole campaign's subtext in way that's been brutal and emotionally taxing for women i've talked to is just about -- it's just watching sort of slog through this morass of horrible male behavior. >> it's about more exposure of
e-mails, right, that hillary clinton, the first female candidate, we have read tens of thousands of these e-mails, all these exchanges between her and huma, her campaign staff, between her e-mail server and the hacked john podesta e-mails. >> exposure. >> just the exposure, the sorting through the underwear drawer, right, of this person who is a first in america's history. >> we have never -- i think it's safe to say, from the e-mails that were turned over and officially published, the stolen e-mails, the hacked sabotage john podesta every day we have never pried more privately into a candidate's doings than hillary clinton it's fair to say. >> no. >> which is the grand irony here. >> right. the notion that she's somehow secretive, that she's trying to hide something from us. she has less hidden from the american public -- >> if she is secretive, she's
not effective at it. >> i think her impulses are secretive but it has not worked. there's no political candidate that i can think of from whom, you know, from whom we know more than we do from hillary clinton. >> that also feels weirdly -- rebecca thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> what impact simply having the words clinton and e-mails could have on the election. but first thing 1, thing 2 after this break. ♪ using 60,000 points from my cha ink car i bought a the fmework... ... and plants needed to give my shop a face...s no one will forget. learn mot chascom/k
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tonight a bonus thing 1, thing 2 without the commercial break in the middle. mark kirk from illinois in a tough reelection battle made a major political statement back in june announcing he would not support donald trump. kirk was the first republican to unendorse trump in the wake of the republican nominee's attacks on judge gonzalo curiel claiming that his mexican heritage presented an absolute conflict
in presiding over his lawsuit. remember that one? i have spent my life building bridges, tearing down barriers, not building walls. that's why i find donald trump's belief that an american-born judge of mexican descent is incapable of fairly presiding over his case is not only dead wrong, it's un-american. he put it more plubluntly in a radio interview. >> i do not support hillary clinton and i told the public that i do not support donald trump either. he's too bigoted and racist for the land of lincoln. >> senator kirk was planting his flag as the anti-racist wing of the republican party standing up to donald trump. there's just one problem with that. evidence during last night's debate with his opponent congresswoman tammy duckworth. and that's thing 2. >> i want to be in the senate. my family has served this nation in uniform, i'm a daughter of the american revolution. i've bled for this nation. but i still want to be there in the senate when the drums of war sound because people are quick to sound the drums of war and i
want to be there to say this is what it costs, this is what you're asking us to do, and if that's the case, i'll go. families like mine are the ones that bleed first. >> senator kirk, 30 seconds to rebut. >> i've forgotten that your parents came all the way from thailand to serve george washington. >> what? that from the supposedly anti-bigoted wing of the republican party. senator kirk suggesting that sis his asian american opponent was born if another country she must be lying about her ancestors in america. congresswoman duckworth was born to an american father and a mother of thai and chinese descent. >> there's been members of my family serving in uniform on my father's side going back to the reeve o lugs. i belong to the william penny daughters of the american revolution. if you go to illinois you'll see a statue put up of me. >> here's a photo of her next to that statue. after that debate kirk tweeted his sincere apologies to
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this was the scene near cannonball, north dakota, yesterday evening. at least 141 people arrested, some after being pepper sprayed following a months long conflict in which protesters from the standing rock sioux tribe have tried to halt completion of a pipeline they say will threaten their water supply and harm their land. the tribe had sued and vently lost an appeal. activists have camped out for months protesting nonviolently. but tensions escalated last night. officials say they were attacked. we don't have any independent confirmation of that. they were not being asked to leave a second camp a few miles away according to "the new york times." meanwhile, we got a verdict yesterday in the trial of another federal land occupation. armed anti-government protesters had occupied a federally owned wildlife sanctuary in oregon for six weeks who demand the federal government surrender the
property to local control. we should note this conflict ultimately did end up with forces moving in. one protester was killed following a police chase in january. but in this case the prosecution said it was simply about the armed seizure of public property. all seven defendants yesterday on federal trial were acquitted. the bundy brothers' attorney reportedly grew belligerent when the judge informed them that the brothers would not be released because of pending charges in nevada. >> that's when u.s. marshals, about a dozen of them, moved in, they tackled attorney marcus mumford. they even tased him. i can tell you that computers went flying. also papers went flying. that's when the judge ordered all of the media and all of the people watching the trial out of the courtroom. >> so seven folks acquitted. the bundy brothers remain in custody pending their other charges. i suppose the 141 folks facing charges in north dakota the best they can hope for is a little bit of the bundy treatment. t it's also great for findg the perfect us car.
there are two basic ways of looking at a presidential race. one that it's remarkable stable in the sense that donald trump's polling average is about the same now as it was months ago when he wrapped up the nomination. the other is that it's been a roller coaster ride starting with donald trump's feud with the judge and james comey's announcement of no charges against hillary clinton and the party convention and the khans.
the first debate followed by trump's feud with alicia machado. the infamous "access hollywood" tape and now with 11 days left, will what happened today affect what happens on november 8th. joining me now, cornell belcher and howard dean. cornell, let me start with you because i feel like there's like pundits and journalists and folks in the consulting world who view the campaign as like pivoting on these key moments. then there's the data in other words -- data nerds and they're like give me five facts and i'll tell you how people are voting. what do you think? >> well, i think it's problematic for the trump campaign. i listened to the interview you gave earlier with the trump campaign manager. here's the fundamental problem. she's making the case that hillary clinton is not trustworthy and she's corrupt,
right? which in a regular campaign season is probably a fairly strong argument to make against a candidate. but donald trump is fundamentally poorly positioned to take advantage of that because it's not like he is seen as more trustworthy and as more liked. in the usa today poll he's 30 points underwater on his fav/unfav. he's been driving this narrative for the last several months. and it's not necessarily a winning narrative. no time in the last several months has he taken sort of a consistent lead over her. i don't know if this does that for him. i think it re-energizes some of the votes that are already there with him and those who think she's crooked. but for those college educated white women that he's had a long-term problem with, i don't know if this is a new narrative that helps him. >> howard, what's your feeling
on it? >> i think we've got another shoe to drop. i think highly of comey, but what he did here, he only did halfway. he has to reveal the rest of what he's got. you cannot start an investigation, publicly announce it -- first of all, they're supposed to wait 60 days and not do this 60 days before an election. second of all, he's got to tell everybody in america now in fairness what he thinks he's got. if the clintons don't know what he's got, and i don't think they do, then he probably doesn't have much. he's probably got a lot of stuff that huma was copied on and that's not going to get very far. >> i don't think they know. i don't think the fbi knows what they have. i think the idea here -- >> that's a big problem. you should not do this 11 days before an election unless you know what you're talking about. >> right. i guess from the -- right. so there's the whether we get -- when you say another shoe to drop, the idea is this is an
open parenthesis. is comey going to say there's nothing to see, investigation reclosed. but even without that, what i saw a lot of republicans gleeflee -- they were very excited today because they're seeing, oh, maybe we're going to save roy blunt's bacon in missouri and pat toomey in pennsylvania. what do you think about that thinking? >> here's the problem with that argument. if this had happened three weeks ago i would have said maybe. but the problem was these senators have gotten a lot of attention. so what hillary did with the big lead after the trump womanizing stuff got them on the radar screen.
now they're on their own radar screen. now people will make individual judgments about jason candor regardless of what happens to hillary clinton. so i think unfortunately for the republicans they're out of time and out of luck on that one. >> cornell, one of the things that i think you've always got to keep coming back to when you think about the fundamentals here is that hillary clinton needs to reproduce the obama coalition to win. it's a coalition that's come out twice to women. it's not just a thing you can snap your fingers and do, but through all the perturbations of this election cycle there have been people on the ground essentially executing that. >> that's right. when you look at the ground and what they're doing on the ground in some of these battleground states like florida and ohio and these other places, you're going to see that what they're doing now is actually what we did in the obama campaign in 2012 where a lot of people don't realize that we actually registered more people in 2012 than we did in 2008. what you're seeing is that ground operation actually does
make a difference when you bring new registrants in, in places like nevada and florida. i think you see them running a professional campaign there. so, you know, she is not going to completely get the obama coalition, but i think she's going to -- she's building up that new coalition that she can have of her own. but also donald trump has a problem with his coalition, right? if you look at sort of, again from polling, he's running eight or nine points off of republican performance where she is with democratic performance, so it's not like he has consolidated the republican coalition either. even though it's a losing coalition, he's yet to consolidate that. >> howard, quickly, do you expect any more surprises with 11 days to go after all we've been through? >> in this i expect a lot of surprises. who knows. i do think comey will have to come out and say, look, none of this stuff is classified. we're going to continue to
investigate but we're not investigating hillary clinton. and that's true. cbs, for example, misspoke when they did their lead. he has not reopened the investigation of hillary clinton, he is looking at other people's e-mails. it's very different. i'm not surprised he did this because he sort of had to with 11 days to go. what i'm very surprised is he didn't do the whole truth and that's too bad. >> thank you. that is "all in" for this evening. good evening, rachel. >> good evening, chris, thanks my friend. happy weekend. >> you too. >> thanks for joining us this hour. the last speaker of the house that left congress under pressure from the hard loin lin wing of his own party, the last speaker was john boehner. that is spelled b-o-e-h-n-e-r. if john boehner says his last name is pronounce