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day to the election, we have got a packed hour for you. donald trump is supposed to be walking out for his rally in warren, michigan, he's running a little bit late. hillary clinton is early for her rally in kent, ohio. we'll show you her most force full comment yet. we have the best coverage for you for this whole hour. our investigative team is breaking down what is a legal story with political under tone. lets start this hour in ohio, my colleague kristen welker is standing by. hillary clinton is starting her rally right off the bat talking about this fbi investigation. what did she have to say? >> reporter: well, look at under score her strategy approaching this head on, the campaign thinks it is a show of strengths and it really turn up the pressure on director comey and what they are calling for it is to release more information
about what exactly it is he's looking at and you are right, some of her sharpest language yet. lets take a listen. >> why in the world the fbi would decide to jump into an election with no evidence of any wrong doing with just days to go. that's a good question. first of all, for those of you who are concerned about my use of personal e-mails, i understand and as i have said, i am not making excuses, it was a mistake and i regret it and now they apparently want to look at e-mails of one of my staffers and by all mean, they should look at em. i am sure they'll reach the same conclusion they did when they looked at my e-mails for the last year. there is no case here. [ applause ] and they said it was not a close call and i think most people have decided a long time what they think about all of this.
now what people are focusing on is choosing the next president and commander in chief of the united states of america. [ applause ] [ cheers ] >> reporter: there is no doubt that the campaign was stunned by this development. there is been in damaged control mode ever since. secretary clinton trying to turn the page today to put the focus back on donald trump, hitting him saying he would be a danger to national security that he's unprepared and cannot be trusted with the nuclear code and national security and he cannot tell a difference between the united states' friends and enemies. she went into more details of all of those categories we heard before. it is a little bit of a preview of how we can expect for her to close out this race in terms of their strategy on the ground, secretary clinton heading to arizona, it is a traditionally red leading state, clinton is
feeling competitive there. i have asked if they'll change that strategy and given the development and fbi and any changes of her travel plan. if you look at the polls, so far they're not showing that she's taken a real hit. it is still early so that's clearly one angle that we'll be tracking. ohio is a huge battled ground state and the polls are showing a tight race here. >> kristen, thank you very much, lets turn to the trump's campaign now in warren, michigan which we are awaiting now. katy tur is in new york right now. the campaign manager, they don't plan to make the comey investigation of the center piece dialogue of the next eight days but when you listen to the last three days or so. >> it has been a piece of their dialogue. the campaign is not going to say that because they want to publicly come out and say we want to talk about our ideas and how we'll change this
country and not going attack on our opponents. it is exactly what they have been doing friday afternoon. he's spoken about it at every single campaign rallimerally. he's not doing it in the first couple events that he had right when this news broke. he's going after anthony weiner as he's done so often before. he's using the same terminology and the same accusations and the same i knew better back then that he has been using. take a listen how he described anthony weiner and huma abedin a few minutes ago. >> in new york, we knew weiner and i made statements that were rough like how could she be allowed to live with this guy and how could she have access to this information and i was criticized. now, they are saying oh, trump has good judgment.
>> this for the next eight days, he not only had this fbi reviving of the investigation and he also has the obamacare premium rising, the affordable care act which works in his favors. these are three things that helped him ground his message in facts or what looked like facts for his supporters and the republican operatives that i speak to, this is t best chance that he has to regain some grounds and he may still not win -- this is going to put them over the top but what they are hopeful about and this is the first time they have been hopeful about this is these down ballot races. now, these republican candidates are answering for donald trump. the democratic candidates are forced to answer for hillary clinton. they are on their hills for the first time of this campaign season and republicans are hoping that their senators who
are in tight battleground races will be able to use it to their advantage to maintain the majority of the senate. >> these are e-mails that appeared to show donna brazil maybe giving questions or guidance ahead of time of a debate that was held in flint during the primaries. what's the closing argument over the next eight days. >> and they want donald trump to be the person that voters believe that somebody is going to be on their side in the white house. and so they're trying to put that forward and obviously, this is challenging with donald trump. even when you put him on
a teleprompter he does not stick to the script. he will go and say something else. that's not so, he's out for the every little guy as oppose to himself. we have the washington post reporting from david coming out there is a lot of evidence going against donald trump that he's for anybody but himself. they are using this last eight days to hammer home these narrative and they are hoping, hoping that if they cannot find republicans to come home to him which is what they need to happen, that they're going to make the waters so muddy that people who like hillary clinton or on defense about hillary clinton just won't go out to vote for her. >> we got an interesting piece coming up with gabe sherman.
katy tur, thank you very much. happy halloween, for the latest of the new fbi review of clinton's i want to bring in pete williams. i have to say, you have had remarkable reporting over the last 72 hours and we have been talking much of "nightly news" last night. what do we know of the timing and how quickly this could be resolved. >> well, it is not soup yet. they don't know how long it is going to take or don't know how long it will be. the process is straightforward. they analyze it to look at the e-mails she sent when huma abedin sent when clinton was secretary of state. they eliminate duplicates and analyze those at are left. they don't know how many is left, that process i just described takes many, many hours. so the optimism is if
they don't find anything that's new here or come out to say something before the election, they will. failing that, they just don't know when they'll be able to say something. there is no plan to come out and sort of make a statement about how it is going and no plan at this point from director comey to either amplify on the remarks that he sent in his letter to congress on friday. >> peter, i heard you a while ago on the air talking about the number of e-mails they have to go through, forgive me if you said that, we are talking about thousands of e-mails that they have to review or what's the process? >> there is something like 650,000 e-mails on the laptop but that's the whole thing. they're only interested in the ones she sent. that's in the thousands they say. the last i heard did not know exactly how many. so, think about this, it is not a manual process where you open up a laptop and start scrolling through e-mails. it is
an automative process. you will eliminate weiner's e-mails and you will look at the time frame when clinton is secretary of state. you analyze that to see if there is duplicates from e-mails they have found of the clinton's vestigation andtail ha they'll have to look at it one by one. pete williams. thank you for your reporting. >> thank you. >> our ari melber, i know you have been on the phone with our sources since friday fight. if they do review of what pete just
describing, is there a possibility to find the need of a legal action? >> that's the lead. they want a different outcome charges against her. i spoken to former prosecutor and legal experts across the spectrum. the basic view, the nature of this evidence and we don't know what's in it, the nature of the evidence makes it unlikely that you would reverse course and get charges. the reasons several prosecutors tell me goes back to the standard that the fbi used here and james comey outlined and lets play of how he explained that standard in july. >> our investigation looked at whether there is evidence that classified information was in properly stored or transmitted in their personal system in violation of federal statues that makes it a felony to mishandled classified information either intentionally or grossly.
>> she would have intentionally would want to miss handle that information. >> supposed there was top secret information in these huma abedin's e-mails. i think it is embarrassing or politically damaging but it will not change of what's being done of the analysis of whether she will be charged of criminal offense. there is zero percent of the likelihood of that. paul butler, a man who knows this area, look, given the fact that they reviewed 30,000 e-mails and most from clinton, it is hard to imagine that there could be new e-mails from clinton that could result from hillary clinton. >> what about huma abedin, could
she be in trouble, is that a whole separate question? >> it is a separate question, she could be more in trouble for this technical reason. the location of this material on this laptop itself could be problematic for her. that's to say, e-mails that are other wise okay that may have passed between her and other officials including secretary clinton become more suspect if they are on this laptop. the intentionfb may ask her, did you put this on the laptop or were they a question that no one know the question. i want to be here to huma abedin, usually we don't talk much details about this under investigation. to be fair about her, lets be clear of her history. she was cooperative and sat for under oath and turned overall devices. so as a lawyer,
there is not any indication what's come out that there is a problem for her. the pre >> indeed, it is possible she did not know these e-mails which are on the laptop. we just don't know. >> we don't know. >> coming up, we'll talk to a member of the house who questioned james comey back in september about what it wod take to keep the clinton's e-mail investigation opened. >> since you announced there is no prosecution of secretary clinton in july, there has been material issues that are troubling, would that not require a reopening investigation to solve those issues? >> i have not seen anything that would come near to that kind of situation. again, that was
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from his rally. i want to welcome our congressman in milwaukee. >> thank you for being with us. >> happy halloween. i come here dressed up wsas a congressman a that's scary. >> thank you, i have skeleton earrings on and that's pretty scary. >> we have a lot to talk about. the timing of director comey's
lett letter, is that a surprise? >> i have known james comey for some time and he's a professional. he shuts down mr. gonzalez -- and i think that we have to look at mr. comey's integrity and i have been watching the tv and looking at the flip-flops from people who praise comey to the skies after his july's announcement and now condemning him. he's trying to do his job in the best way possible >> let me press you on that. you were critical of the attorney general back in july. you said she had a burden to convince the public that she did not have a
double standard. now, you're praising james comey and the department. you were not praising him last summer, is that is a double standard on your part? >> no, it is not a double standard. i was talking to attorney general lynch. now, the real issue that voters have to decide is whether we really want to elect a president who is under a criminal investigation and might be subject to indictment and have that hanging over this country for the next four years. i think we kind of had enough of perpetual scandals the clintons had for eight years of that. the time is come for voters to ask if they want four meteor show more years of that. >> would you encourage the fbi to address this somehow before everybody has to go to the polls next tuesday. >> well, i don't know what's in the stash of e-mails that they have to look at. i think the fbi
should do a thoroughly investigation. >> they did not at the time that comey said there was not any evidence in july. >> is that what he did on friday by sending that letter? >> no, it did not. he did testify whether there is anything that would cause him to reopen the investigation. now, obviously, it came to the attention that the fbi that there is 650,000 e-mails that were of huma abedin and anthony weiner's computers. those have to be looked at. whether it is jeopardy for clinton or huma abedin, nobody knows. i don't think that the fbi -- ilt shot
come up saying well, things looking good now or the next day is things are looking bad. they should come up with a conclusion based on the evidence just like i think mr. comey attempted to do in july before we knew about the fact of these 650,000 e-mails on huma abedin's computer. >> you are a republican member of the judiciary committee. >> if hillary clinton win this is election next week, is impeachment a possibility in your opinion? >> well, depends on the evidence that comes up. there is only been an impeachment voeters by the house 20 time in the history of the country. i was there for
the clinton one as well as these judges, takes awfully a lot of evidence and what you are asking me to do is to pre-judge evidence that's not investigated thoroughly by the fbi. >> right, i understand that congressman. i am only asking and i should preface, in sort of far right media places online right now, it is being talked about and there are people waving that flag and saying you all should go there. >> ll, first of all, mrs. clinton is not a civil officer of the united states. if she's elected would not be until inauguration day on january 20th. there are a lot of people that put the conclusion they like first and end up working
backward for that. >> the judiciary has a history that does not let the country down. we'll look at our investigation submitted and we'll do our investigation and have hearings and if it is warranted. the whole process, you know, won't start up until the fbi is done and mrs. clinton if he's elected and end up facing that. i think we ought to look at the fact that this is a criminal investigation and mrs. clinton if the fbi comes up with something is facing indictment. do the voters really want to have a president that spends most of his time or her time figuring out how to keep himself out of jail rather than leaving the country or a free world. we got a lot of problems in this country, i think we deserve to have a president that'll spend full-time trying to fix the problem in working with congress and try to fix it.
>> we don't. as we say, we don't know what's in those e-mails. i wonder if you are worried your fellow republicans pointing it, we don't know what's in those e-mails. >> we don't know what's in the e-mails. you are the one that's taking it too far. the judiciary committee has been dealing with issues like that over a very, very long period of time. you know what premium aeople are sa impeachment is reaching a conclusion when there is no evidence that's sifted or analyzed by the fbi or anybody else. we don't know what's in there. the question that people have to ask before they go to vote is whether we want to have a president that's under criminal investigation and potentially facing a criminal indictment of office or whether
we don't. and this is something that voters are going to have the think about and think about very seriously in the next eight days. >> congressman jim sensenberger, thank you very much. >> joining us now, he's a democratic and a hillary clinton's supporter. mr. colt, thank you for being with us. >> thank you kate for having me. >> nearly more than 100 of you signed the open letter, all expressing concerns of what james comey has done here that's sent up to capitol hill and now has gone public. what should he have done? >> well, i think the main point here is he really did not know what he had and as congressman
sensenberner has said, when they found out of another troll of e-mails, nobody has seen these e-mails or had any significance of this matter. before james comey said anything, he should have found out whether or not if there is anything pertinent to warrant anything. he is just looking at these e-mails to determine whether if there is anything that should be considered in deciding whether to do it. this investigation is still closed. the department policy says you don't talk about investigations and the problem we are seeing now is really what that policy was designed to prevent. >> as a congressman just said back in september, he had director comey sitting in front of him and he asked if there is any reason to open or looking again at e-mails. didn't he tell congress and yeah, now we
discovered a whole bunch of evidence. >> but given the fact that he said that, i still say no. not until he know what is he has to deal with and what he has in his hands. what he did was premature and came out with something before he knew the facts. >> let me read apart of your letter. >> justice department officials are instructed to refrain from commenting publicly on existence let alone the substance of pending investigative matter. public comments may affect the
electoral process and create the political interference in the fair administration of justice. >> no comments except accepting circumstances. >> the election adds another level of risk to coming out of public statements. that risk is with very imperfect information and no real factual foundation and at the end throwing your hands up saying never mind, we did not have anything. it is been a policy that's been in place for years for just this reason. the wild speculations and exaggeration that's going on now is unfounded. there is no bases to it and that's what the policy is designed to prevent.
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with only eight days until the election. we are getting new detailed work of trump's campaign that we have never seen before. >> it paints a clear picture of how the campaign got to where we are right now. from more, i want to bring in the author of the article, gabe sherman, good to see you. >> you spent a lot of time on this. you spoke with more than two dozen current or prior trump
advisers and friends. >> republicans exactly. >> republican officials. you write that despite of all the fbi news that we have seen, trump is ending the race much as he's getting into this and not worrying too much of the future and you are saying he's unmanageable. what are people saying to you? >> that is pattern that's repeated itself over and over again if you look at paul manafort's efforts. he was trump's campaign manager before and kellyanne conway. even time trump is pulling even, he's gone off script whether it is attacking miss universe or attacking the khan's family last summer and talking about suing the women of accusing him of unwanted sexual sex advances. just when he's getting his strive, he does something to
self-sabota self-sabotage. >> what did he do for trump, ales, is he still involved? >> he's not involved now. trump told me on the record that he's only spoken to ales twice the last month. he was referred by paul manafort in july. also, helping stage the republican national convention so news network chief is actively involved in the running of a president. >> why did he leave? >> this really did not focus on debate prep. the trump people say -- it is now kind of out of the game and he was not adding much and really was not a mutual
parting of the ways. >> you also talk about khan, the gold star father, you write that donald trump did not know what a gold star family was? >> so this was a moment when he started attacking the khan family after the democratic national convention. what trump said and they are ta tactattack you know they're a gold star family and he said, what's that. that's a flip reaction. e mhe d not step back and say should i be attacking the family of american veteran. he just thought these are people that coming after me and i am going to fight back. that's what his advisers trying to ring in. >> i want to ask you about something that came out again today. this is about donna brazil, you heard katy tur mentioned that donald trump has brought this up on the trail today. it is an e-mail part of the jump podesta leaked e-mails.
nbc news has not verified these wikileaks e-mails. donna brazil is giving ahead questions, this is going to be included, one of the questions directed from the hrc is from the woman of a rash. how do you read that? >> very troubling. clearly anyone that's given advance knowledge of a question to a subject that raises question. now, cnn has said that they are not in the business of providing advance questions. so i think that raises another question which how did donna brazil gets these questions and who in cnn gave it to her and did they know she's giving them in the campaign. cnn has said they were uncomfortable with that. >> gabe sherman thank you very
much. >> there is so much more in our article, we'll link it on my feed. >> kellyanne conway with chris matthew tonight with "hardball" with chris matthew. we are heading to texas next. we know it is reliably red but it is a little less red this year, stay with us. ad is virgia... and on this side it's tennessee. no matter which state in the country you live in, you could save hundreds on car insurance by switching to geico. look, i'm in virginia... i'm in tennessee... virginia... tennessee... and now i'm in virginessee. see how much you could save on car insurance. or am i in tennaginia? hmmm... people would ask me that we traveled,ntries what is your nationality and i would always answer hispanic. so when i got my ancestry dna results it was a shocker.
lets head over to texas now at the lone star state. kris jansing is joining me now from austin, texas. trump is expected to win the state but what does shift means for democrats there? >> reporter: is this the place that's truly moving because of democratic's huge influx of hispanics. we are at an early
votiing site. you mentioned how big early votings are. wade davis -- wendy davis, it is good to see you again. how are ya? >> good. i have to tell you when we saw those maps come out that changed the shades of texas on the map from red to pink and some of those purple, it was astounding for us to see that. >> as i was preparing to come here late last week, a lot of democrats were feeling positive, not necessarily that hillary clinton was going to win here but the momentum were shifting that we have not seen, 40 years of democrats voted for republicans. the weekend, then
james comey and talking about e-mails and the judgment that secretary clinton showed, could this hurt her or keep the people at home. >> i think there is an initial shock about that. as the coverage have worn on over the last couple of days and the clinton's campaign has pushed back hard on the inappropriateness of comey and making any kind of public statement about that is pretty clear that there is no there there, they have not reviewed any e-mails or no information that somehow creates a new story around this. most people in this stage, that's the case everywhere else in this country are pretty baked into the person that they are going to vote for. what i think is happening here in texas, is that for the first time in decades, people believe their votes will actually make a difference and when you believe that your vote is going to matter, your incentives to come and show up and vote is very
difficult. i think that's why we are seeing the increase turn out in texas in a way that is far beyond what we see in an election. >> wendy davis, thank you very much. >> reporter: this is the change in registration this time. up 50%, el paso county up 50% and travis county is up 101%. the question is which party can capitalize on it. we'll be watching the next turn out next week. if it goes down, a lot of insiders tell me that that's an indication that this news cycle is having an impact. >> for the clinton campaign is all about florida. she spends more time in that state than any other battlegrounds so far. we'll head to florida after the quick break.
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james comey announced the new review of hillary clinton's e-mails. clinton locking a dead heat in florida with donald trump. >> mariana is joining me from fort lauderdale. you are with young voters there, what are you hearing from them? >> reporter: that's right, kate, i have been traveling across the sunshine state for almost a consecutive week now and those black neighborhoods, i have sense a lack of enthusiasm from black voters but from millennial voters, clinton was here yesterday anshe ll be back in this neighborhood hoping rally voters like gabe. gabe, you were bernie sanders
supporter and you have not voetvoet voted. how are you weighing in this election eight days out. >> we are reluctantly voting for hillary clinton. but, so of my friends forgo using their voice and decided not to vote at all. >> reporter: how come you are not voted. >> as soon as i am finished, i will be casting my vote. >> i don't want to keep you waiting. thanks to you. >> especially here in florida, she needs every black vote and every millennial votes if she's going to beat donald trump. come election night, it may come down to the state of florida. >> mariana down in florida, thanks so much. the scandal that rocked the career of new jersey governor, chris christie, and landed two of his staffers on trial. now, it is in the hands
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becausy is mock reas was weak. we need to understand that. >> we are following the latest developments on the bridge gate trial from newark, new jersey. the jury started deliberations and now they are in recess until tomorrow morning. bridget kelly, a former deputy chief of staff and a former port authority official are accused of conspireing to close two local access lanes to the george washington bridge in 2013. both of them pleaded not guilty. the star witness orchestrated the lane closures to punish the mayor for not endorsing chris christie in his reelection bid. someone who has been covering the trial is a reporter for wnyc
video. governor christie, the rest of the area probably knows about this because of governor christy and his in this election. he maintained he knew nothing about the closures, but they contradicted his claim in the process of the trial. >> bridget kelly said she told them about this causing the epic trfic jam and price while it was going on and the prosecution's main witness has alleged he told the governor about this at a ground zero ceremony on the anniversary of 9/11 while the lanes were closed. there have been other witnesses that during the cover up period and they were aware of what happened and they continued to tell the press he knew nothing about it and other witnesses including current allies said that's not true.
>> the two people on trial right now, what's their defense strategy and on the flip side, what have the prosecutors been saying? >> she didn't know it was elicit. she thought it was a legitimate traffic study and that's what the cooperating world trade center at the port authority, that's what he told her and she knew that there was nothing as far as she was concerned. bill said he was manipulated by the guy who has a history of dark arts and political operations in the state of new jersey and he thought it was a legitimate traffic study. they are both claiming they did not know it was retaliation against the mayor for not endorsing christie's reelection. >> christy is not on trial here. even if they are found not guilty. is there damage done to the governor and his future? >>. >> damage to his reputation and
both sides maligned him to unbelievable degrees and he can't respond. there was a history of retaliation and revenge orchestrated by the governor against other local officials. he ruled with an iron fist and he cursed at her and cloou a water bottle and arranged a meeting with local mayors. he had to send a local message and it is bad for the governor's reputation every day with the court. >> we will continue to follow that. the results are moments away and you want to stick around for that. that's since the news on friday.
just in, survey monkey credit as the fbi was looking into more. rolling out the numbers right now. >> thanks for that and get let get to it. the question on everyone's mind and the last minute revelation, what impact is it having on the race? we have brand-new survey monkey online polling conducted since that announcement, since the revelation. the first thing i want to do is tell you where it stands right now. this poll reflects the entire week. what you are looking at from the week of the 24th to the 30th. a six-point clinton lead. the question is what effect did that announcement friday afternoon have on these numbers? was there an impact? it was taking place minute