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either it's not overtime and just feels that way. hillary isn't she from chicago? she's got the bats. i'm still looking at her. and that's "hard ball" for now. thank you for being with us. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. >> tonight -- >> stay on point, donald. stay on point. >> an unprecedented escalation five days out. >> the fbi agents say their investigation is likely to yield an endimt. >> the republican nominee marshalling lies and law enforcement leaks to attempt a comeback. tonight, the state of the race and new reporting on how the trump campaign is using the fbi to try to win the white house. >> we got a couple things up our sleeve. >> then, as duke debates -- >> watch what's happening to mr. trump. >> the president escalates. >> if you accept the support of klan simp thidsers before you
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are president you'll accept their support after you're president. >> plus, the incredible irony of melania trump. >> our culture has gotten too mean and too rough. >> and, it has happened. >> the cubs win the world series! >> the sweet escape of a victory 108 years in the making. and "all in" starts right now. >> they did it! they did it! >> good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. with five days until the election, donald trump's entire closing argument now rests on criminalizing his opponent hillary clinton. agents within an arm of the nation's highest law enforcement agency, the fbi, appear to be helping him. if there's any doubt that fbi director james comey's announcement of clinton-related e-mails would be exploited for political purposes, check out this new ad released today by the trump campaign. >> hillary clinton is under fbi
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investigation again. after her e-mails were found on pervert anthony weiner's laptop. think about that. america's most sensitive secrets unlawfully sent, received and exposed by hillary clinton, her staff and anthony weiner. hillary cannot lead a nation while crippled by an investigation. >> it's either not true or can't be possibly be known at this moment or contradicted by the findings in july. trump has gone from vowing to throw hillary in jail if elected 0 arguing it doesn't matter. clinton cannot be a legitimate president and now a faction within the fbi appears to be helping him make the case. since comey's disclosure last year, there's leaks within the but owe, some to benefit one campaign, some the other. among the leaks, anonymous sources told "the wall street journal" began a probe to determine whether financial crimes or influence peddling occurred relative to the
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charity. today, it started in 2015 based on claims made in the highly partisan book "clinton cash" by conservative author peter schweitzer. they declined to pursue the probe further. continuing the counter leak, in the guardian report today, based on fbi sources, those damaging leaks stem from deep an tip think to clinton within the bureau. the fbi is trump land said one current agent. another story today describes ties of the trump campaign and the fbi focusing on the former head of the bureau's new york office, now a trump supporter. the author of that story will join me in a bit. now, this is not the first evidence we have seen of a deep affinity of donald trump and law enforcement in general. he is endorsed by unions of law enforcement agencies, including the largest police union, the fraternal order of police and we have seen officers land in hot
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water. officers in san antonio recently in trouble after wearing make america great again hats while in uniform on duty to escort donald trump from the airport. we told you about the policing in massachusetts. he had to apologize for arresting a fake hillary in uniform. now pushing their agenda. >> breaking news tonight, two separate sources with intimate knowledge of the fbi investigations into the clinton e-mails and the clinton foundation tell fox the following. the investigation into the clinton foundation looking into possible pay for play interaction between secretary of state hillary clinton and the foundation has been going on for more than a year. the clinton foundation investigation is a quote very high priority. they describe the evidence that they have as, quote, a lot of it and there is an avalanche coming every day. these sources said, yes, the investigations will continue. there's a lot of evidence. and barring some obstruction in
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some way, they believe they'll continue to likely an indictment. >> okay. this is a remarkable thing that happened and fox host bret bair walked back the claim this morning somewhat. >> that's not the process. that's not how you do it. you have to have a prosecutor. if they don't move forward with the prosecutor with the doj, there would be i'm told a very public call for an independent prosecutor. to move forward. >> according to nbc news chief justice correspondent pete williams, the reporting is bogus. there is no investigation to speak of but sure enough by this afternoon that report was already loaded on to the teleprompter as part of trump's sub speech out on the campaign trail with a few extra embellishments. >> they say the federal bureau that it's likely to yield a very, very serious charge or an indictment. i'm just saying -- that's what the newspapers are saying.
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that's what the reports are. hillary clinton has engaged in far reaching criminal conduct and in an equally far reaching criminal cover-up. she is likely to be under investigation for many years. and also, it will probably end up in my opinion in a criminal trial. >> okay. no, sir. these are the newspapers reporting. that's not true. there's a sing report and debunked by pete williams who i trust on this stuff. that's the new threat they're making. elect hillary clinton and taking down the administration. heck, the whole functioning of government. right here today republican operative woodhouse brought a pair of handcuffs to an interview calling them clinton inauguration jewelry. today bob good lat chairman of the house jush yair xharm and jason chaffetz wrote a letter
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asking loretta lynch to preserve all documents presumably for investigations of their own and congressman mccall has become the latest republican to float the "i" word, impeachment. >> assuming she wins, and the investigation goes forward, and it looks like an indictment is pending, at that point in time, under the constitution, the house of representatives would engage in an impeachment trial. they would go to the senate and impeachment proceedings and removal would take place. i would hate to see this country being thrown into a constitutional crisis because of hillary clinton's behavior. >> i'm joined by congressman adam shift of california. and, congressman, at first i want you to respond to your colleague congressman mike mccall saying that, constitutional crisis and seems a threat or a promise as it is a description of what would ensue. and already talking about impeachment. i mean, it is remarkable.
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>> it's really breath taking and i think what you're seeing, chris, is what we have seen on display for several years and that is the gop and congress is really not a party of ideas anymore. it is not a party of legislation. they can't agree among themselves. so they've become the party of investigation and the party of gridlock. and even before there's an election, they're saying that basically they'll continue what they have. even if there's no basis for it. that's just what they do. and i think this will i hope have an impact on candidates down ballot who don't want to see that kind of gridlock, that kind of obstructionism and try to take down the president at any costs kind of a congress that we have had with the gop leadership. but i think it all gets back to the fact that the gop is at war with itself and only thing to agree on these days is analysts investigations. i served for two years on the benghazi select committee which after $7 million of fund pair
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funding found nothing we didn't know from the other eight investigations and the republicans promising more of that. >> you know, i want you to comment a bit on the fbi because i have to -- first of all, distinguish of comey's actions and which, you know, people think that was the wrong or right judgment but in terms of his motives, let's put those to the side. to me, the much more worrisome thing about the fbi and the integrity, frankly, the warring leaks out of the bureau. i mean, this is -- you can't run an election with the people entrusted with confidentiality in pursuing high-profile investigations going on, you know, anonymously talking to reporters to try to pursue a political agenda. it's madness. >> you're absolutely right. and i think you do distinguish the two. in the case of director comey, i think this was a terrible error in judgment to inject the fbi into the race effectively with the publication of the letter. the doj policies of talking about pending investigations around election time are there for good reason.
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they're designed to ensure fairness to the subject investigation and keep the fbi out of political campaigns. but following that, we have seen something even more disturbing. and that is you're seeing fbi agents apparently willing to go to the press to leak, to try to have an influence on the election. i worked with the bureau for almost six years as an assistant u.s. attorney in los angeles. the vast majority of agents are very professional, among the best that i ever worked with but those that are leaking right now need to understand they are doing lasting and incall cuible damage to the fbi and damaging the reputation and hard to repair. >> i would add the institutional integrity of democracy. thank you for your time. appreciate it. >> thank you. joining me now, my colleague joy reed and democratic pollster cornell belcher.
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i find this stunning and worrisome. i want to be really fair here. like, someone leaking about the manafort inquiry the other day. >> shouldn't be doing that. >> seems like tit for tat. you do this and we'll do that. you have a situation now where the sort of domino of comey coming forward, the parade of leaks and donald trump running ads saying after months of lock her up, they're basically saying it doesn't matter what happens on tuesday. >> yeah. >> we're going to put her in jail. that's the election. >> this is banana republic territory. adam schiff is urbane and nice man and gentle about it. this is not democracy. let's review. the fbi can take your freedom. they have incredible power over you. >> yes. >> we now have a cell essentially within the fbi allied with rudy giuliani, her opponent in senate. she came out and publicly denounced the murders of dialo
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and doariz. now you have elements of the new york-based fbi determined to lock her up. and there aren't just talking about it or using one vote which they have like anybody else. they can be republicans if they want. they're taking a hack book which is financially related to the ceo of the donald trump campaign, peter schweitzer runs a fake sham foundation that was begun by steven bannon. so you have the financially connected ceo of the republican presidential candidate connected to a book that agents then used to launch an investigation. which they can do against anybody, by the way. based on a sham book and intend to put you in prison and colluding with republican members to say we'll take the sham investigation. we don't care what comey says. we'll put her in prison for being the opponent of our preferred candidate for president. >> it is -- seems like a
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fundamental breakdown in the -- >> not democracy. >> yeah. cornell, you know, you're a pollster. and so there's a question, right, about what this is doing to people. i think largely the polling evidence suggests that this doesn't change anyone's mind. comey's, you know, actions or et cetera. what it does appear to me clearly in the polls is that this gives republican partisans what they probably were looking for already to come home. >> it emboldens them and it's really sad because this is part of a continuum actually that we see that i would argue started with president obama's election and i argue that in my new book. but it's a continuum where you have people who are willing to use whatever means they have to really undo what the majority of americans now are saying you want to do. when they sat around and
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washington before president obama was elected and decided that they were going to block everything he tried to do to make him a failed president, and then went about doing that, when you had senator mitch mcconnell talking about the number one priority in the senate to make barack obama a failed president and a one-term president, republicans talking about, you know, an indefinite block of supreme court nominees by hillary clinton, you have people throwing a temper tantrum and trying to undo the will of the american people because they're not getting their way. it is a frightening place in democracy. when we hear the fbi in collusion with partisan republicans, you kn, joy, you are right. i mean, it is sort of, you know, banana republic kind of things and the moderate swath of voters in this country, you know, they have to step back and take -- and take control of the sich wagts. if you're a moderate, middle of the road voter and voting
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republican, you have to think about sort of what's going on in this -- right now in the country and the congressional districts gerrymandered. think about whether or not you have to take a break from voting republican. seriously. in order to stop this from happening. >> two things, quickly. one is, look. i mean, the point is it's a process. right? integrity of law enforcement's really important. and, you know, if there were -- you know, some smoking gun criminal evidence, they should pursue that. right? i mean, that should be the case. it's the breakdown and the sort of chain of command that's worrying and we have someone from the trump campaign talking on the record about the voter suppression efforts and walked back and basically said you could win, but we're going to impeach her. we're going to block her, hang her up in investigations. maybe it's not worthwhile to vote. >> this is the -- it's the -- so with the barack obama you had a
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defendant out politics and you can be president and not let you be president. stop you from doing anything. >> right. >> we run this country. we don't care who the president is and voted for you. we run this country no matter who you are. with hillary clinton, this is the criminalization of politics. remember donald trump campaign is rife with people from the clinton wars. citizens united is about hillary clinton. remember, it is about trying to use -- >> 20-year war. >> a 20-year war. you have kellyanne con way. you want to be the clinton kabal? . that's america. >> thank you both. appreciate it. okay. don't go away. up next, the details about the active connections of giuliani and the pro-trump agents in the fbi. ♪
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but i'm going to be in texas tomorrow and then i'm going to
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go to nevada, colorado and come back through new hampshire and i'll do my own campaigning so there won't be the 10,000 that he gets but maybe 2,000 or 3,000. >> call us from the road. >> i think he has a surprise or two that you will hear about in the next few days. i mean, i'm talking about some pretty big surprise. >> i heard you say that this morning. what do you mean? >> you'll see. >> stay tuned. >> we have a couple things up our sleeve that should turn this around. >> huh. one of donald trump's top surrogates former new york city mayor giuliani with quote pretty big works days before comey sent the letter to congress discovery of e-mails to pertain or not to hillary clinton's private server and ones not viewed. new reporting suggests he was hinting about the revelation before it became public with the connections to the new york fbi office and one former fbi official in particular.
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investigative journalist broke the story today. wane barret joins me now. wayne, te me about what your reporting found and who jim calstrom is. >> i'm out here in our neighborhood, chris. >> good. >> or as you like to call it, cub land. >> that's right. >> but james calstrom was the head of the fbi office in new york for a number of years and it was a number of years ago but for many reasons he has maintained enormous ties with fbi agents, particularly in the new york area. he had a tv show called "the fbi files" that was on air until 2006. and he runs a foundation that is called the marine corps law enforcement foundation. and it's the marines that are in any fbi and other federal law
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enforcement agencies are part of it so he has a continuing stream of relationships with fbi agents as does rudy giuliani. giuliani's law firm, at least the one he's been with for many years, bracewell, bracewell giuliani and represent the fbi agent association of 13,000 members and rudy has been intimately tied with that organization for a number of years. so they both have legions of fbi relationships. i want to make it clear. i have known a lot of fbi agents in my life. some of the best people i have ever known. >> absolutely, yeah. >> they actually invited me to go to quantity co. i spent two days there. talking to agents across america. you know, i think, you know, joy reed just said it's a cell. i called it the fifth column
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within the fbi and i certainly don't want to disparity the agency itself or the vast majority of agents but there are some that i think are clearly violating guidelines if not laws in these open conversations. i do want to go back, chris, to your prior discussion because you really have to parse what bret bair said on fox and because it's just being constantly misrepresented. he did not cite fbi sources. >> that's right. sources close to the investigation or familiar with the investigation. >> yes. >> that's right. >> yes. and if you look at devlin barret's stories in "wall street journal," that big long one, 22 times in 1 piece he cited people familiar with the investigation. >> excellent and important point. >> yes. now, as an investigative reporter, if i can call somebody a fbi source, i do it.
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if i can call somebody a law enforcement source, i do it. makes the story stronger. but when you're citing people familiar with the investigation -- >> good point. >> -- 22 times, we have no idea who is saying what to who. could be rudy. >> right. >> rudy is a person familiar with the investigation. could be comstrong. >> yeah. >> you know? or could be -- >> it could be any number of people. that's a really good, important clarifying point. your point in the piece is that you got giuliani, calstrom and his foundation you mentioned got $1 million donation from donald trump that he had pledged when he skipped that debate and then never wrote a check for until "the washington post" called him and asked him about the money and then wrote them the check to that foundation, which is what
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jim calstrom runs. >> yes. he's known trump for 40 years. he says that himself. i described in detail from his own mouth the nature of the relationship over many, many years. and he goes on the air and calls the clintons a crime family. now, the fbi has five units in the city of new york in that very office that investigate real crime families. for him to use that kind of wording, i mean, that is just -- it's calamitous for a fbi agent who's held the titles and he was assistant director. >> he was up there. >> yeah. to use that kind of language, it's just completely beyond the kin. and they both have gone on the air. rudy a couple of times and calstrom endless times, citing fbi agents and he cites fbi
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agents involved this investigation and of course a violation of guidelines at least. and maybe a violation of law. for them to be talking to people who are openly partisan. >> yeah. >> calstrom endorsed trump on fox news. giuliani is his number one surrogate. i think more involved in the campaign than mike pence. >> yeah. wayne barret, thank you so much for your time. i really appreciate it, wayne. >> thank you, chris. >> be good. still to come, a judge calls the process for challenging voters' registrations in parts of north carolina insane. more on that ahead. then your rates go through the roof. perfect. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won't raise your rates due to your first accident. liberty mutual insurance. due to your first accident. but the best place to start is in the forest. kubo: i spy something beginning with..."s" beetle: snow. kubo: no. beetle: snow covered trees. monkey: nothing to do with snow. narrator: head outside to discover incredible animals
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he retweets white supremacist and spreads theories. and you better believe he's being heard loudly and clearly. just a few days ago, i want you to hear this because this has never happened to a major -- to a nominee of a major party. just a few days ago donald trump was endorsed by the official newspaper of the ku klux klan. they wrote their endorsement under the slogan of his campaign, make america great again. >> right now, hillary clinton holding a rally with bernie sanders in north carolina. today in the state she brought up the nod donald trump got from the crusader. the newspaper that bills itself as the premier voice of the white resistance. last night republican senate candidate david duke participated with five others in a debate in an empty auditorium
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having qualified by garnering 5% support in a poll. outside the debate which was held at dill lard university, historically black university, protests raged over the inclusion of duke saying that hillary clinton should get the electric chair, complained that jews dominate the media and international banking and outnumbered and outvoted in our own nation. >> the truth is that anybody who stands up in this country telling the truth when's happening to our country, we are losing our country. anybody who does that is going to be a target of the media just like donald trump. >> after receiving duke's endorsement in the primaries, trump initially deavowed him and initially refused to do so. eric trump said duke deserves a bullet. donald trump is slow to distance himself from white nationalists and chose steve bannon says breitbart is the platform for
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those trying to be politically correct. campaigning for clinton in miami this morning, president obama said trump won't change if he becomes president. >> who you are, what you are does not change after you occupy the oval office. all it does is magnify who you are. all it does is shine a spotlight on who you are. if you disrespected women before you were in office, you will disrespect women as president. if you accept the support of klan sympathizers before you are president, you will accept their support after you are president. >> the gloves are clearly off for president obama. tomorrow with four days until the election, we'll air an exclusive interview with the president with al sharpton and see it here first. be sure to be here for that. when we come back, a voter
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suppression tactic in north carolina, a judge described as straight out of 1901. we'll tell you what it was next. who's with me? i'm in. i'm in. i'm in. i'm in. ♪ ♪ one, two, - wait, wait. wait - where's tina? doing the hand thing? yep! we are all in for our customers. ally. do it right.
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the presidential race is exceedingly tight in north carolina where early voting's now under way. polls show donald trump and hillary clinton separated by just a tenth of a percentage point. this week, the naacp filed a lawsuit alleging three north carolina counties illegally removed thousands of voters from the rolls in a process that tar getted african-americans.
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yesterday, a federal judge presiding over the suit said she was, and i'm quoting, horrified saying the process harkenings back to an era of few safeguards and sounds like something from 1901 said the judge and adding it looks like a cattle call the way people are being purged. the justice department's now said it agrees with the naacp allegation. today the doj announcing it's sending monitoring to four counties in north carolina. earlier this year, the 4th circuit court of appeals struck down a voting law in north carolina finding the law's provisions targeted african-americans with almost surgical precision. joining me now jason johnson. jason, you know, i recall back in 2000 there was a voter purge of voters in florida. >> right. >> famously. in which this same tactic was used, a piece of mail sent, if it's returned you can contest the person. a lot of times returned because they're living with a
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grandmother or something like that. >> right. >> but this is a -- the wording of the federal judge today was very strong. >> well, and it has to be, chris, because this is a step back for all american citizens. i mean, the process by which a letter being sent to your house can smau eliminate your right to vote like if i knock on your door three times and you don't answer i can assume it's abandoned and i can take your house. what's key also is this. this is what happens because we have lost the preclearance element of the voting rights act and until congress does something about that, we see the shenanigans throughout the south and throughout the united states as long as elections go on. >> you also i think on top of that you have two parties in this era of sort of, you know, polarization. one party, the democratic party, wants to maximize -- make it as easy for as many people to vote as easy, out of principal or pragmatism and the republicans want it as strict as possible. here's the alabama secretary of state jon merrill explaining why
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he doesn't want automatic voter registration. take a listen. >> these people fault, some of them were beaten, some of them were killed because of their desire to ensure that everybody that wanted to had the right to register to vote and participate in the process. i'm not going to cheapen the work they did. i'm not going to embarrass them allowing somebody too sorry to get up off the rear end to register to vote. >> to be clear, he's saying the heroes and murders of the civil rights movement in the state of alabama guaranteeing the franchise for the black citizens in their name won't have automatic registration. >> yeah. the bizarre use of martin luther king's name by the republican party has always amazed me. martin luther king seems to have justified everything that the gop wants to do. here's the larger issue here. this idea of preventing people
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of voting, it is not jt about targeting african-americans an preventing the poor and everything else but prevents us from having a responsive government. they can't vote on levies, the school system and be involved. when republican party members and occasionally democrats and mainly republicans make it harder to do their own jobs. >> i live in new york that's controlled by democrats for a long time or has a lot of democratic control where the democratic party doesn't want a lot of people voting because they want low turnout in elections so they have high leverage to churn people out to the polls and then it's for pragmatic reasons, crassly political ones and ruins self governance. jason johnson, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. 108 years in the making, chicago cubs make world series history. it could not come at a better time. much more on that ahead.
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thing one tonight, donald trump is notorious for twitter insults and "the new york times" with a running list of every person, place and thing insulted on the platform since announcing the candidacy for president in june 2015. toward the end of november, 282. governor pataki couldn't be made dogcatcher again so he didn't. don't like samuel j. jackson's golf swing. not athletic. play him for charity. the worst show in las vegas in my opinion is penn jill let. hokey gar gadget. new york show even worse. that's not 282 tweets. 282 different entities at least. on twitter, thing two tonight, want to guess what kind of terrible and unacceptable
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behavior melania trump to focus on if she becomes first lady? the answer in just 60 seconds.
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it is rare to see anyone involved a presidential campaign as surprised as melania was by her husband last week. >> i might join him. we'll see. >> she is actually going to make two or three speeches. >> oh. >> and i will tell you -- >> news right there. >> she is amazing when she speaks. she is an amazing public speaker. >> definitely seemed like the first time melania trump heard about speeches and hard to back out when it's announced on national tv so today a first solo campaign speech in ohio with a mean focus of the work should she become first lady. >> our culture has gotten too mean and too rough. especially to children and teenagers. we have to find a better way to talk to each other, to disagree with each other, to respect each
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other. we must find better ways to honor and support the basic goodness of our children, especially in social media. >> that -- this is not a bit. i mean, melania trump wants to focus on cyber bullying but her husband is known for weaponizing twitter. bashing at least 282 different people, places and things in last 18 months by that "the new york times" tally. we know from gabe sherman's reporting that trump's campaign manager uses donald trump's avid cable news viewing to get through to him. as a way to communicate with him is to go on tv to communicate. maybe he land yemelania trump io reach an audience of one. i wonder if he got the message. getting key nutrients from food alone. let's do more. add one a day women's gummies. complete with key nutrients we may need... ...plus it supports bone health with calcium and vitamin d. one a day vitacraves gummies.
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her's the 0-1. this is going to be a tough play. bryant, the cubs win the world series! bryant make it is play!
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it's over! and the cubs have finally won it all! >> and with that moment the chicago cubs beat the cleveland indians last night in one of the most dramatic games in any sport you will ever see. more than 40 million people tuned in to watch these two teams end one of the longest championship droughts in major league history. after four and a half hours and a 17-minute rain delay, the cubs celebrated the first world series win in 108 years. that's the first since the model t ford went in production and since the ottoman empire fell. this morning, the internet with cubs fans celebrating, generations that have come and gone with a century of heart break and disappoint. they took to the sheffield wall at wrigley and wrote tributes to loved ones that never saw this. it's aather extraordinary of a man driving from north carolina to indiana to watch the game with his dad who died in 1980. >> i told my dad, i mean, we kind of had a pact.
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when, not if, when the cubs got in the world series, we'd listen to the ball together. >> look, dad. here's your son setting up camp in the military section of the cemetery. we asked wayne if he thinks big wayne is following the game with him. >> knowing him, no. he was a hell raiser, baby. he was a hell raiser. >> enjoying a little heaven tonight. >> and there was a grand dad who waited 81 years for this moment which is shared on twitter. >> here's the 0-1. >> there it is. >> the cubs win -- >> they did it! they did it! they did it! oh god! oh i can't believe it! i can't believe it! >> the cubs world series win marked talent, hard work, foresight and luck and also signaled if only briefly a respit of the polarizing
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election or the sweetest escape. joining me now is dave zirin. i'm biassed because i'm a huge cubs fan and invested in the world series. as the series went on, it did feel like a nation that is -- has had the eyes glued to one thing, this campaign which is deeply divisive and polarizing and ugly and sometimes just days of sexual assault details. >> yeah. >> that this was like exactly what everyone needed at this moment. >> no. chris, this was a nightly catharsis. it was a nightly vacation. it was a nightly spa treatment from what's been one of the most depressing stretches in my political life, certainly. and as we say, it's been such a stressful election period, we know what we're talking about. it's the extreme toxicity that's been injected by donald trump into the national life. and to have this as a break from that has been beautiful. i want to talk about a little bit of why it's so beautiful. you talked about the 108 years
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since the cubs last won a title. and, you know, there have been a lot of good jokes about that like the last time the cubs won the title, "people" sexiest man was adam and funny jokes. but if you go back 108 years and really think about what the world was then, just the sports world, the nba champion 108 years ago was nobody because there was no nba. the nfl champion? there was no nfl. so nothing there. the ncaa football champion was penn. not penn state. penn. it was such a different world from a sports perspective. yet, baseball has a capacity and paraphrasing james earl jones' speech of "field of drms" but to make us linked to the past and optimistic about the future and so few things in the national life to do that. >> i totally agree with that. baseball around so long, a sense of continuity, the sense of history. you're sharing something that people have been sharing for a century and has changed with the
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country so when dexter fowler led off the first game of the world series and first pitch, he was the first black cubs player to appear in a world series because back in 1945 when the cubs were last in the world series, there were no black cubs players. i mean and so you have this transformation of the game and continuity, too. and also i just -- last night, i mean, people complained about the pacing of the series and i get. they're way too long. back when the game was invented about two hours. last night four and a half hours and rain delay. but also, just the suspense. you know, the catharsis you're talking about, it built up that catharsis and the game moved so slowly these days. >> yeah, yeah. no, absolutely. but that's part of what made it so beautiful because the entire nation pretty much watched this game. the ratings last night were off the chain. these were 1986, you only have three channels and a computer is the size of a refrigerator ratings. >> right. >> that's how many people were
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tuning in. when you have baseball as a shared national experience, i would argue it's very different than anybody say watching the super bowl and getting loaded and having parties and it's sort of almost like this back nail yeah. this celebration of excess. while last night was a celebration of suspense. it was a celebration of catharsis, of release. certainly not for cleveland fans but i got to tell you, like, i'm not even a cubs fan but by the end of this series, every pitch, every foul ball, i mean, it was killing me. it was killing me. i can't imagine what it was like for you. >> i am a cubs fan and a moment last night i turned to my wife, i said, i will have a heart attack and then i was like i don't mean i will have a heart attack as a figure of speech. i mean literally, i'm going to go into cardiac arrest. physically. and the other thing i'll say, you were not -- this series, i became a cleveland indians fan in a certain way. >> right.
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>> i was in awe of the unbelievable resilience of this team that lost two of their starters pitchers who just every time came back and back and back and even last night incredible team. >> i would make the case that the cubs are better than the indians on paper at almost every single position. >> yep. and how tight -- dave -- >> remarkable. >> thank you for joining us, man. appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up, i had a moment i almost turned off the game but, but i learned an important lesson. what i realized that's next. [burke] hot dog. seen it. covered it.
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i will admit there is a moment last night when i lost hope. when my mood got so dark it almost blacked out my vision. after raja davis hit an improbable two-home run choked up on the bat against the hardest thrower in baseball to bring the cubs back, i thought, well, it, we'll lose. at a cubs bar in brooklyn with my wife, dad, and aunt. it was so hot inside that bar the sound system shorted out and one of the tvs kept overheating and turning off. when the rain delay started at the end of the ninth inning, i told my wife to go home to process the loss away from the crowd. we called a uber and took forever and told my dad i was leaving. okay, he said, are you sure you want to do that? i don't think i can take the loss here, i said. he said, christopher, it is the struggle that matters.
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the myth of sis fuss is my dad's favorite es sy and how you find meaning in a meaningless world. the life of the figure condemned for eternity to roll a rock up a hill only to have it roll back down and have to start again and how can we find joy or meaning in a world that's so reliably deals heart break? the key, he writes, is to focus on the struggle itself. the effort of the push, not the final accomplishment. it's a pretty great guide for a life of work and social justice like my dad or education like my mother or politics or broadcasting for that matter and can't control your ratings on any given day or baseball where cubs coach maddon emphasized the game is flukey and best to focus on process and not on squlout comes because sometimes you play well and catch a bad break and lose. as kate and i waited for the uber to come, the grounds crew
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rolled out the tarp and there jason heyward who's had a terrible one might say sissiphian year. it's a new ball game. let's go out there and win this. sure, the rock had rolled back down the hill. by the time the uber was a block away, the rain delay ended and kyle schwarber led off the tenth with a single. let's cancel the uber and stick around. we watched the most glorious inning of cubs baseball in history. here's the thing. as joyous as that moment of victory was, i kept thinking about what my dad said. the fact is if they lost that game, as heart broken as i would have been, it still all would have been worth it, honestly. the last lines of that essay are, the last struggle toward the heights is enough to fill the heart. translated into cubs lingo, wait
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until next year. turns out that's surreal and ecstatic as it is to celebrate a cubs team that doesn't have to say that for the first time in 108 years, wait until next year, keep pushing that rock no matter what is a pretty damn great way to go through life. thanks to the cubs for teaching me that. that is all in for this evening. good evening, rachel. >> god bless you, chris hayes. i was teary on your behalf. >> you sent me an all-caps e-mail and appreciated. >> within moments. man, congratulations. thanks for that. that was awesome. happy to have you here. donald trump's largest donor is this guy. his name is robert mercer. he's a hedge fund zillionaire and put more money in the effort to elect donald trump president than anybody else in the country. in this election cycle, one of the ways he spent his money

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