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these are the polly parrots of my hometown in texas. they came to visit at the "today" show. congratulations to them. go, polly parrots. texas kids outside macy's day parade tomorrow. it will be wonderful. happy thanksgiving to you and your family. up next, part of my work family, "andrea mitchell reports." >> happy thanksgiving to you, tamron hall. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," about face. the president-elect says he's now open to the international agreement on climate change and a total shift on a key campaign threat to prosecute hillary clinton. >> she should be in prison. >> she has to go to jail. >> for what she's done they should lock her up. >> she should be locked up. she should. [ cheers and applause ] >> critic's choice. by picking nikki haley for u.n. ambassador donald trump names the first woman and a former
political foe to his cabinet. >> i pick people based on that i think they can change the country. >> are you going to support trump? >> great to be in cleveland. >> i have not been his biggest cheerleader. i did vote for him. i was absolutely thrilled to see him win. >> and american legends. for the final time president obama presents the medal of freedom to the best and the brightest. his final class of american icons. >> it is easy to forget now when we have come so far, where now marriage is equal under the law, just how much courage was required for ellen to come out on the most public of stages almost 20 years ago. what an incredible burden it was to bear. to risk your career like that. people don't do that very often. and then to have the hopes of millions on your shoulders.
good day, everybody. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. trump 2.0. the president-elect abandoning some of his controversial campaign promises to the dismay of some of his hard lined supporters. naming his first woman, south carolina governor nikki haley to be u.n. ambassador as a cabinet post. as kelly ayotte discovered, not forgetting campaign grudges. more on that in a moment. joining me now nbc's katy tur in new york and nbc white house correspondent kristen welker in palm beach. kristen, to you first. nikki haley. she didn't support him. she didn't support the muslim ban, but she did oppose the iran deal. so it is a mixed foreign policy picture and no foreign policy experience but a woman who is a first generation american to the cabinet as u.n. ambassador. >> reporter: that's right, andrea. i think this pick does a number
of different things. as you point out she's diverse. she's the first woman that president-elect trump is tapping to serve in his cabinet. she's someone who sharply criticized him during the primary. supported marco rubio. then went on to support ted cruz. the fact that he picked her -- he had a lot of republicans saying he wanted them to look beyond loyalists. he's doing that. is this a team of rivals? not yet. it is showing he's incorporating some rivals into his cabinet. you have a lot of his supporters, democrats and punl s republicans saying that will make the administration stronger. mitt romney is one of the people he's eyeing for secretary of state to be included in that if he decides to pick mitt romney. that would be a rival pick as well. nikki haley, as you say, doesn't have a lot of foreign policy experience. in terms of getting confirmed, that could be a challenge for her. she does seem to have a fair
amount of bipartisan support. that could help her ultimately win senate confirmation. we are learning, andrea, that we may get another name later on today. we are watching dr. ben carson, someone who was a rival during the primary turned one of donald trump's top surrogates. he's tapped for hud secretary. we are told he's mulling the decision. >> maybe coming closer to it. he just on facebook said he would have something more to say about his role. >> right. >> a couple of things going on here. first of all, she has no foreign policy experience other than as a governor doing trade missions. to both of you, it seems to me confirmations will be easy for someone like nikki haley. barring something unforeseen because the democrats, harry reid took a step of the nuclear option making it not filibuster process for anyone except for supreme court justices. unless there is someone really controversial like jeff sessions for attorney general, unless
there are republicans willing to vote with the 48 democrats, they are going to get these people confirmed. they only need 51 votes. katy tur? >> yeah, absolutely. what they do have in their favor going forward is a republican-controlled congress. if somebody like nikki haley who wasn't necessarily a staunch supporter or donald trump. someone who's seen more as a level-headed governor who expressed distaste at donald trump's rhetoric, she might be somebody that's a welcome breath of fresh air. there might not be as much opposition to her because there could be worry about who he could put in her stead. who else would he put in place for u.n. ambassador? we know there is still a lot of talk about the other cabinet members and who could possibly take those roles. somebody like rudy giuliani for secretary of state could be a little bit more controversial than mitt romney obviously for secretary of state, especially
considering all of the conflicts of interest he could pose with his overseas dealings and his consulting work overseas. but for the most part donald trump is choosing folks that will get, as of now, a relatively easy confirmation. sessions could be an exception to that. even sessions is somebody that most people expect to go through the confirmations. mainly because it is a republican-controlled senate. >> i want to play a little bit of audio from donald trump meeting with the "new york times." this is donald trump, kristen welker, talking about kelly ayotte about whether or not he would appoint people who went against him. >> i won the presidency easily. i helped numerous senators -- in fact, the only senators that didn't get elected were two -- one up in new hampshire who refused to say that she was going to vote for me who by the way would love a job in the administration and i said, no, thank you.
this is where i'm different than a politician. i know what to say. i just believe it's sort of interesting. she'd love to have a job in the administration. i said no thank you. she refused to vote for me. >> kristen welker, that's so clear and transparent. he says she wouldn't vote for me, i'm not giving her a job and she wanted a job, by the way. he's not going to fudge that over at all. >> this is when you are reminded that donald trump really is an outsider. he does things differently. his campaign wasn't run like a typical campaign. his administration likely won't be run as a typical administration would be. the fact he's being so transparent, so clear, so blunt about it effectively saying, look, she never said she was going to vote for me. therefore, she cannot come on board and that is a difference from nikki haley who softened her tone and rhetoric when it
came to president-elect donald trump. what's striking about the interview is you saw him moderate on many issues. the fact that he wasn't planning to go after secretary clinton over her e-mails, he's now considering the paris accord. he once advocated water boarding. he's saying now that may not be the best tactic having consulted with someone like james mattis. the broader headline is it was striking to see the extent to which he's softening in a host of ways. however, still keeping grudges against some of the people who were hard-liners and said they weren't going to vote for him. >> kristen welker near the palm beach white house in florida now. and katy tur in new york. thank you both so much and happy thanksgiving to you. "new york times" white house correspondent mark landler joins me for a deeper dive into the meeting with the president-elect. you were not there. you were up here -- or down here, wherever we are in
washington. this was done in new york. it was off and on. there was a lot of confusion about ground rules and whether reince priebus jumped in and tried to claim that the "new york times" was trying to change the ground rules. they finally did meet. let's talk about what we learned from the meeting. your big take away from the reversals with the "new york times." >> i think kristen summarized it well a few minutes ago. he did appear to soften the line on a lot of key issues. notably the climate change accord, waterboarding. of course his comments about whether or not he was going to prosecute the clintons or seek a prosecution of hillary clinton. that said, i think it is worth being a little bit cautious about this. one of the things that people are learning about donald trump and those who have known him for a long time say this is not new is donald trump often reflects the views of people he's talked to recently. i think the case of water
boarding and general jim mattis a good representation of that. he made strong comments about the value of the interrogation techniques. he sits down with this highly decorated general who has strong views that run counter to it and comes out saying, you know, maybe i will rethink this. that trend may continue on different issues. when he goes into the administration he'll have other voices like steve bannon, his chief strategist, mike flynn his national security adviser. one thing we need to acknowledge about donald trump is these aren't positions likely set in stone. these aren't reversals that i think we can assume will hold. i think he is, to some extent, a moving target and someone apt to change his view depending who he speaks to. >> i'm glad you pointed that
out. i agree completely on this. he often reflects the last person he spoke to. i want to play the exchange from the "new york times" on the subject of waterboarding and general mattis. >> i said, what do you think of waterboarding? he said -- i was surprised -- he said, i have never found it to be useful. he said, i have always found, give me a pack of cigarettes and a couple of beers and i do better with that than i do with torture. >> the question is if you are thinking of going in as secretary of state, if it's mitt romney and you know that mike flynn as national security adviser will be the last person who speaks to the president do you worry if you are romney you won't be on the same page, you will be reversed, isolated or suffer the consequences of some secretaries of state we have covered in the past who have not had the ear of the president. this is a big question for the national security team that's
being assembled. >> it is. i think it is a bigger question probably for mitt romney than perhaps for general mattis. i mean, one thing that's clear in the mattis relationship is, remember, he outranked general flynn as a general. so i think mattis would be able to carve out a strong independent role at the pentagon. it might be more difficult for mitt romney who not only is not in donald trump's inner circle but was actively opposing him during the campaign to build up those links with the president. i think that's probably something romney has to be calculating carefully in making the decision about whether to take a job like that. >> in the same interview with the "new york times" when pressed about potential conflicts, we have already seen him meeting with indian businessmen, having his daughter and son-in-law present at the meeting with the japanese prime minister. this was his response about handling his business.
>> i could run my business perfectly and then run the country perfectly, and there's never been a case like this where somebody has -- if you look at other people of wealth they didn't have this kind of wealth. it's a different thing. but there is no -- i assumed that you'd have to set up some type of trust or whatever and, you know, and i was actually a little bit surprised to see it. so in theory i don't have to do anything. >> they don't have an ethics officer or a general counsel. they haven't explained how they will separate his functioning as president of the united states and his businesses. >> that's right. >> if you listen to the answer he's saying, look, i don't have any legal bar to continuing with these conflicts. he made a comment in that
context of some of the critics would like me never to be in touch with my daughter ivanka again. it's clear he doesn't plan to satisfy those who say there needs to be a real separation between himself and the businesses. he also brushed aside -- he was asked by my colleagues about a conversation he had with nigel farage and he raised the issue of wind turbines near his golf course in the uk. he said, yeah, i might have brought that up. he didn't seem particularly concerned about it and went along, rather interesting answer about the issue of wind turbines and the trouble they cause the environment. i don't think he sees an issue where ethics and legal experts see a huge issue. based on the interview we can expect this theme to be a strong one going forward into the new administration. >> boy, you are so right.
how about then tweeting that maybe farage would be a good uk ambassador to the united states and boris johnson, the foreign secretary said on the floor of the comments, we have an excellent ambassador already. we don't need -- in other words, we don't need the president of the united states or the president-elect of the united states telling us whom to appoint to represent great britain in washington. >> it's fair to say the special relationship is off to a less than special start under the trump administration. >> how about that? thank you so much. we have a special relationship still. mark landler has written books about all of this and knows more about it than almost anyone i know. thank you very much. happy holidays to you. >> thank you, andrea. same to you. >> coming up next, new questions about the driver's record before the deadly school bus crash in chattanooga. the latest on the investigation next on "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. world ugly and messy.
now to the investigation into the deadly school bus crash that killed five children, injuring dozens more in chattanooga, tennessee. walker, the bus driver, faces five counts of vehicular homicide. nbc news learned new details about his driving record showing he received his license in april to drive a bus. five months later he was involved in a minor bus accident. no one was injured. in 2014 he had his personal license suspended for failing to show proof of insurance. this morning tennessee governor bill haslem and school officials declining to answer questions about whether they had received complaints about his record. >> i don't understand why you don't want to answer. >> i don't know the answer.
>> but others here do. why wouldn't you want to answer that question. >> the governor has to leave. >> thanks for joining us this morning. thank you. >> reporter: that was kerry sanders pressing the governor. mariana atenzio is in chattanooga with the latest. what is the ntsb saying about the crash? >> reporter: the ntsb is looking into the driving record that you mentioned that's raising questions, especially that incident report from two months ago. the ntsb chairman said they are looking at three cameras inside the bus. they had audio and they could listen in on the final conversations before the crash happened. ntsb said it will take 7 to 10 days to collect the data and a couple of months up to a year to determine what caused this incident. they have a press conference at 5:00 p.m. today. chattanooga police also has a
presser today. we don't know the time yet. we'll keep you updated as to the latest findings from the police as well. >> thank you very much. coming up next, audit the vote. a growing call to take a new look at the vote count in three key battleground states. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc, the place for politics. per roll more "doing chores for dad" per roll more "earning something you love" per roll bounty is more absorbent, so the roll can last 50% longer than the leading ordinary brand. so you get more "life" per roll. bounty, the quicker picker upper
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hillary clinton's margin has gone over 2 million votes a head of donald trump in the popular vote. an advantage that won't change the outcome of the election which is determined by the electoral college. some clinton supporters are trying to mount a campaign to ask for an audit in key states to see if a recount should be ordered. according to computer scientists cited in new york magazine there is persuasive evidence that election results in wisconsin, p pennsylvania and michigan may have been manipulated or hacked. joining me is the governor of
pennsylvania and former national chairman and msnbc political analyst ed rendell. let's try to look at this audit idea to see if there should be a recount. if you look at the margins in pennsylvania, michigan and wisconsin. she would need all three states. look at pennsylvania. almost 69,000 votes. is there any way you could imagine her suddenly reversing that to win pennsylvania? >> it would be very hard to do, andrea. particularly in pennsylvania. wisconsin and michigan are closer. but, look. i think since there was so much chatter about the possibility of russia hacking the results, et cetera, it's probably worth a quick study to do the actual vote count and what the reports were. the statistical survey raises questions. but, boy, it's a real long shot. i wouldn't do an election challenge unless i found in district after district that there was a significant
difference between what the actual vote of the machine was and what the reported vote was. >> and, in fact, according to all the people at homeland we talked to before the election, these machines aren't online. these machines are all internally connected so hacking would be nearly impossible, we were told by homeland security before the election. they're not on the internet, in other words. >> yeah. that would be a persuasive argument for not doing an audit. but, look, when someone raises a statistical study like this, it's probably a good idea to have someone look at it quick, down and dirty. not an election challenge or a court challenge, but to see if there is anything to the claims. my guess is there isn't. no one wants hillary clinton to be president of the united states more than me. she would have been a great president. no one was more disappointed than i was.
i don't think this is worth any full scale audit. but i think we can take a look at some divisions, see if there is any disparity. my guess is there probably wouldn't be or if there is a disparity it's small enough that it wouldn't make a difference. >> on election night or the morning after, 2:00 a.m. we were all at the clinton headquarters. john podesta said to the crowd very disappointed crowd at that stage, we are not giving up. let's sleep for a couple of hours, count every vote. gave a stirring speech to rally the emotionally spent troops. then within ten or 15 minutes hillary clinton conceded. we have heard reports that it was because of the white house desiring for her to concede. there was a desire not to make a conflict more possible. the president of the united
states actually wanted her to concede, the numbers just weren't there. do you think there is an appetite now after all has been said and done to re-open this? >> i don't think there is. there are some people i have been getting messages on the internet that we should do the audit, et cetera. i don't think there is a real appetite for this. i think we lost and it's interesting. if someone was going to hack into machines in pennsylvania, wisconsin, and michigan, why didn't they hack into machines in new hampshire and minnesota and florida and north carolina, et cetera. how did these forces know that mr. trump was going to carry florida and north carolina and there was no need to do hacking in there. so, look. it's probably worth since there are reliable computer scientists who said this, you may be right that these aren't machines on
the internet. but let's take a look, do a few divisions, not make a big deal about this. if there is nothing there, put it to rest fast. because, look, mr. trump deserves the right to build his team and get the american people looking at what he's doing unimpeded by this. if there is something there, fine. but let's take a quick look and get it over with fast. >> let's talk about the democratic national committee you once led. there is a possible leadership fight pitting the west wing against the left wing of the party. what do you do about that? you've got congressman ellison who put his hat in the ring and you're got second-guessing from the outgoing obama administration. >> well, what i would like to see -- and i have said this a couple of days ago -- i would like to joe joe biden, if he wants to do it -- >> he said he's not interested.
>> well, the number of people, myself included, are trying to reach him. i think he would be a great bridge to take this job for 18 months or two years. to put someone like death keith ellison in as cochair, younger people and bring about unity in the party. it's important. but i think the basic message that we need new blood is correct. i think rather than have a blood-letting now, i think everyone respects vice president biden. everyone would, i think -- keith ellison said if vice president biden was interested he would not run. right now that's the best posture for the party. >> thank you so much, governor. happy holiday. >> i hope joe is watching. >> we can certainly reach out to him and make sure if he isn't that we get his reaction. thank you. have a good holiday.
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october 11. a major topic, working with russia to end the civil war in syria. joining me now foreign affairs columnist for the washington post david ignatius. interesting this close to the election that don jr. would attend this meeting. it was confirmed by kellyanne conway. there is a picture on their website. can we see don, jr., being an envoy on foreign policy? >> i'm surprised he was the env envoy. i'm not surprised there was discussion about syria. trump, in the campaign debates was emphatic about his desire to work with russia in syria to alie with russia and bashar al assad, the president. he took political heat for it. i wondered watching him if he hadn't had enough contacts that he knew where he was going with
that. just to come back from the middle east i have to tell you russians and foreign ministers from virtually every arab country are intrigued with the idea. power in the middle east goes with the winner. russia is looking strong. so is trump. >> what about the fact that jared kushner is being talked about for middle east envoy, informal, to advocate for the administration for his father-in-law. this is a very intriguing idea especially because the family are running the business. you know, he's got business interests around the world. this is another level of potential conflict. >> the conflicts are there. trump really has to be careful. he blandly dismissed this issue in his interview yesterday with the "new york times" saying if the president can't have a conflict of interest, that's not going to wash.
i must say president john f. kennedy we remember as a great, beloved president used his brother bobby as his key envoy serving as attorney general in every major crisis. bobby was the go-to person. there were eyebrows raised at the time. we could see the benefit for president kennedy of having somebody trusted absolutely to carry messages, think out loud with as during the cuban missile crisis. so i don't think people should see the relationship as disqualifying. if donald trump expresses a strong interest in doing something about israeli-palestinian peace and he sees in his son-in-law an orthodox jew, somebody who could be a useful envoy, assuming that appropriate steps are taken to avoid conflicts of interest, i wouldn't see that as
disqualifying personally. >> there was an anti-nepotism law passed in 1967 especially because of bobby kennedy's role. but that may not apply to the son-in-l son-in-law. the son is another issue. iffer the son to be involved in running the business and negotiating with the russians or other advocates is -- raises a whole new issue. i want to ask you also though about an interview that david petraeus did with bbc about whether he'd serve in the administration. let me play the audio. >> would you serve? >> i have been in a position before where a president has turned to me in the oval office in a difficult moment, and turned without any pleasantries and said i'm asking you as your president and commander in chief to take command of the international security assistance force in afghanistan. the only response can be, yes, mr. president. >> what about the possibility that david petraeus could be involved? we don't know if he is being
considered for a post. i don't know what you are hearing. >> what i know is general petraeus remains intensity interested in serving his country in some future capacity. i think he's signalling that. because he's a careful person. you would assume that he wouldn't make the statement unless he felt that there was some reason to be so public and to give the interview to the bbc. it's a very interesting group. i would just note that general flynn -- general mike flynn, the national security adviser, served under david petraeus briefly in kabul when he was the j2, head of intelligence. petraeus knows him well. he knows flynn's strengths. he has a broad view of flynn. he sees flynn as a brilliant
tactical intelligence coordinator. i think petraeus is signalling that he would be interested in serving. in what capacity, who can say? the whole process is fascinating, the way in which people are -- >> i know. >> it's like a stock market and reputation and potential job selection. reminds me of the days of lyndon johnson. you know, name up, name down. somebody promotes himself too much and they're out. >> speaking of which, rudy giuliani is the one somebody who may have promoted himself too much for secretary of state. the fallback seems to be some consideration for director of national intelligence. given his political involvement and the fact that he's not a policy guy. he's a political guy. what do you think of rudy giuliani for dni? >> i have said elsewhere on msnbc that i think whatever rudy
giuliani's strengths may be, that would not be a good position for him. james clapper, the current director of national intelligence has finally made that position work. he's shown that the person who can do it effectively needs to be an intelligence pro who understands how to work with these 17 agencies, many of them very technical. jim clapper isn't in the news a lot. he knows how -- he's a skilled bureaucratic fighter. he gives honest and direct, completely nonpartisan advice to the president. rudy giuliani is a highly political figure. he always has been. he's a person with a red hot views about things. that would not look to me as an observer like the right job for him. >> thank you so much, david
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donald trump discussed the role his son-in-law could play. >> jared is a very smart guy, a very good guy, a quality person. he could be very helpful. i would love to be able to be the one that made peace with israel and the palestinians. i would love that. that would be such a great achievement. nobody's been able to do it. >> do you think he can be part of that? >> well, i think he'd be very good at it. >> joining us, anne guerin. we have heard a lot about jared kushner in the white house as special counselor. that in itself was controversial. now middle east envoy? >> yes. it appears that trump is trying to find an appropriate role that won't run afoul of a variety of
conflict of interest issues he was unaware of two weeks ago. in particular the idea that kushner could be an envoy or peacemaker. i was talking to sources in israel who saw kushner as a potential go-between from the netanyahu government to trump on their agenda to keep the settlements. no retrenchment. we've got it good and want to keep going. seeing kushner as a potential ally in getting the message through to trump. so if trump now sees him as somebody who could make over temperatures to the palestinians, i think it would be interesting to see how that works. >> we have been talking about the possibility of mitt romney floated as a possible secretary of state, we don't know because
there is push back. here is some of the push back from newt gingrich and mike huckabee. >> when you go after a person who is a nominee of the party who has been dually nominated by the voters and then you savage the voters. you're not just savaging donald trump. it would be an insult to the trump voters who worked hard. that's what i think he has to stop and consider. >> there are a lot of people more qualified than romney in foreign policy and haven't been as actively hostile as he's been. >> mitt romney would send one signal to foreign leaders on pins and needles waiting to see what the foreign policy emerges as. but it may not work internally. >> not at all. i do wonder why romney would be seen as a greater slap in the face than nikki haley. she made a very, very pointed criticism of donald trump way back in january when she gave
the state of the union response. she didn't go after him by name. it was clear who she was talking about when she talked about the dangers of essentially demagoguery. that's exactly the same point mitt romney made in his criticism of donald trump by name, much furtherer along in the process. they seem to be coming -- those two -- from the same part of the establishment. republican party mainstream. for one to serve in the administration without remark and for the other to be criticized is odd to me. >> i think quite odd indeed. thank you so much, anne. great to see you. have a great holiday. at the white house tuesday for the final time president obama presented 21 americans with the nation's highest civilian honor, the presidential medal of freedom. the awards when the to icons of the sports stage, music, acting and innovation.
first of all, basketball star kareem abdul jabar had to bend down for the president to put that medal around his neck. it is a height difference i can identify with. check out this picture when kareem abdul ja bbar was here i 2012. the president's speech left no doubt about why he thought these recipients deserved the medals. >> when a sport changes its rules to make it harder just for you, you are really good. there is a reason you call somebody the michael jordan of -- and they know what you are talking about. because michael jordan is the michael jordan of greatness. diana ross's influence is inescapable as always. i am the president. he is the boss. >> ellen degeneres was stuck outside the white house after forgetting her i.d. when she did get in she got maybe the best mannequin
challenge to date and the president gave some of his most touching comments of the day about ellen's courage. >> it is easy to forget now when we have come so far. now marriage is equal under the law. just how much courage was required for ellen to come out on the most public of stages almost 20 years ago. and she did pay a price. we don't remember this. i hadn't remembered it. she did. for a pretty long stretch of time. even in hollywood. and yet today, every day in every way ellen counters what too often divides us with the countless things that bind us together, inspires us to be bett better. one joke, one dance at a time. n, jack knocked over a candlestick onto the shag carpeting... ...and his pants ignited into flames,
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is the president-elect now rethinking his opposition often stated to the landmark paris climate change accord? as indicated in his "new york times" interview. joining me jeremy simons of climate political affairs at the environmental defense fund. thank you very much for being with us. first of all, he said he now has an open mind to the paris accord. this is a complete reversal. >> it's encouraging given whethwhere he's been. it's concerning that he's surrounded himself with people with a history of polluting as big corporate polluters. it's not just public health and the climate and planet we are going to leave our children for their future that's at risk. it is also the here and now of creating a clean energy economy. the fastest growing sector in the american economy. we need to keep moving forward. this is an opportunity here. we are anxious to see what he does.
>> tell us who is myron ebel. >> a long-time purviewer of climate doubt. got his start, in fact, working as part of the tobacco industry campaign to cast doubt on the impacts of cigarettes. they took the same confusion tactics for many years now. he travels around, does interviews basically saying climate change isn't real, or it is not a problem. >> his role with the trump transition? >> he's appointed the head of the transition team for the environmental protection agency. that is the person who is supposed to make sure the agency that does the job of protecting the air we breathe and the water we think is qualified 57bd he wants to under mine it.
>> how do you reconcile donald trump saying he's open to the climate accord, the paris accord to the "new york times" and having mr. ebel in charge of the epa transition? >> it speaks to a problem which is where is president-elect trump going to get his advice on this? we hope he looks further and makes a smart choice. our eyes are on who he puts in charge of the epa and other positions. there is talk about cutting funding for nasa's climate science program. we have to base our decisions on science. who he puts in the positions will be critical. >> jeremy symons, thank you so much. we'll continue the conversation. more ahead on "andrea mitchell reports." we'll be right back.
happy thanksgiving. right now donald trump is at his club in palm beach reportedly working through the thanksgiving vacation partly to fill out his administration. new names out today. nikki haley, governor of south carolina, accepted the nomination for u.n. representative. ben carson reportedly offered housing and urban development. sources say dr. carson is mulling that opportunity. buzz getting louder for mitt romney as secretary of state. in march, romney called trump a phony and a fraud. today former governor mike huckabee said a romney nomination would be a mistake. >> you've got to surround yourself with people like secret service people who will take a bullet for you rather than pull a bullet in you. >> tennessee's governor visited the elementary school attended by children killed in the deadly bus crash in