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smart person. i don't have to be sold the same thing and same words every sicksick single day for the next eight years. >> oil and water whach. what we know about rex tillerson and a potential showdown and murder for hire. seven years ago. go too far in setting their trap? president-elect trump rejecting conclusions by the cia that russia influenced the u.s. election tilting it in his favor calling the whole thing, quote, ridiculous, blaming democrats, a bipartisan group of senators are now planning an investigation. >> very interesting. once they hack, if you don't catch them in the hack, they have no idea if it's russia or china or somebody. it could be somebody sitting in a bed someplace.
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they have no idea. >> at least he didn't say a 400 pound guy sitting in a bed. also coming under friendly fire before his nomination made official. the head of exxonmobil scrutinized over his ties to russia and a seemingly close relationship with vladimir putin. some gop senators suggesting they're a no for confirmation. >> it's not like vladimir putin and rex tillerson are pounding down vodka, they're not close friends but anybody in president trump's cabinet, particularly the secretary of state, the fourth highest ranking person in our government, that person will be advancing the interests of the u.s. everywhere. >> not like they're pounding back vodka at the nearest bar. national correspondent peter alexander is covering the trump transition. how deep are the rifts within the inner circle for and against rex tillerson?
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>> save the pounding back vodka for the rest of us. donald trump was filled with praise in terms of comments about rex tillerson, both on twitter part of the fox interview saying he's not just a business executive but he's a world class player and that's what we are hearing. he's been hearing from some top officials. former officials as well. the former defense secretary robert gates, condoleezza rice and james baker all voicing their support privately to donald trump for rex tillerson as his secretary of state. but you talk about the divisions on this and the challenge may be what happens if there is to be a confirmation at the senate. specifically because it only takes three republicans defecting away from tillerson for this thing to be dead in the water. we heard marco rubio saying a friend of vladimir is not someone i'm looking for for secretary of state. both lindsey graham and john mccain spoken out as well. mccain saying it is a matter of concern referring to that
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relationship. so that's where that stands right now. we understand that those close to donald trump say they want to sort of, before making this announcement, see how it plays out, both within the media but also at capitol hill. >> peter, what are we hearing about rick perry? possible position for him, former texas governor. ran for president. what do you know? >> yeah, so we know he's going to be meeting with donald trump today. he is the front-runner at this point right now to be the next secretary of energy, ironic and notable because he was back in 2011 during the republican primary debate. remember that oops moment, he was talking about agencies, departments he would want to get rid of if he were to become president and forgot one of them, the one he forgot, turned out, the energy department and the others up for that post right now, joe mansion, the democratic west virginia senator. he's going to be meeting with donald trump today as well. we know carly fiorina, got video of her arrived at trump tower a matter of moments ago, one of those going through the revolving door again today as
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well as kathy mcmorris rogers, the republican from the inland northwest from washington state and right now is looking increasingly likely to be the next secretary of the interior. >> good to talk to you. catch up with you later. i want to bring in former spokesman for ted cruz's presidential campaign, rick tyler. let's start with, good to see you, let's start with rex tillerson. as a businessman, done a remarkably good job. exxonmobil for a long time for shareholders, done a very good job. i'm not clear how between two goldman sachs executives in this cabinet, rex tillerson, what do we need now, big pharma and tobacco ceo to round it out? >> look at all the past cabinet members and redefine what it means. donald trump picks someone, puzder or for labor or for epa
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does not mean that they're against the epa. it means they have a different vision. he has a different vision for secretary of state. tillerson has been there for 8 presidents. in senior leadership since reagan. >> it's a multination- nationan. generally. >> it's not mutually exclusive. i keep hearing that a business relationship say with putin is different than diplomatic, absolutely it is but doesn't exclude him from being able to do that job as well. >> except in the business relationship, you're looking for friends and partners to do business with. sometimes as a secretary of state, you have to take the hard decision to not make the deal. >> and i'm not saying that means he can't do that but the point is he has relationships, they know him, they like him. from my perspective, he's uniquely qualified to bring a different perspective. that's why i think the hearing is so important because i think he'll bring a different perspective to the committee and
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the democrats should watch it because there will be democrats trying to box this guy in. this guy knows more about foreign policy. >> what is foreign policy? what's the chief diplomat supposed to be doing? business deals or with the fact that we've got a belligerent china, expansionist russia? no argument there. that's what they do. rex is a friend of russia. russia invaded a country and on border of nato allies. >> he knows that and ba'ltics have dealt with it. >> just because someone has a different view doesn't mean they'll be a bad secretary. rick perry wanted to abolish the department of energy that he might be in charge of. that's #weird. that's a little different. you worked for a texan during the nomination.
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a different relationship with energy than many in the country. >> i know we're playing that clip and we have to play the clip from the debate. rick perry was recovering from major back surgery then. >> i cut him a lot of slack for that. i'm not worried about that. i'm more interested in the fact, let's play it. so everybody here can be reminded of the kfgconversation. he started to say he wanted to get rid of three governmental departments and then started to name them. here we go. >> i will tell you, it's three agencies of government when i get there that are gone. commerce, education, and, what's the third one there, let's see? the third agency of government i would do away with, education, the commerce, and let's see, i can't, the the third one, i can't. sorry. oops.
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>> the issue was that energy is actually on the list. how do you square that circle? one, need to get rid of the department and then run it. does that mean you'll fix it and make it into the thing you want to exist or dismantle it? >> i don't know yet. it's hard to dismantle departments and probably stay. the point is that these bureaucracies which were invented in the 1880s codified in the 1930s marginally effective in the industrial age are completely inappropriate for the information age and i hope the people have a different vision of how to function. though we know the pentagon. >> these are not silicon valley guys. these are old guys doing what they've been doing. >> tillerson, to the point, fits the bill because he has a complete outsider. he has the experience, yet. >> you have ran a national campaign. how many americans would say the ceo of an oil company is an outsider? that's about as inside as one
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gets. if you think about an american that is left out. >> but he's been part of the successful company and successful things around the country and we looked at the academics, right? like nothing against condoleezza rice. she was academic. general colin powell. but obamacare was an academic exercise and it's been, in my view, a complete failure. >> we'll have to come back and have that discussion. thank you for being with us. president-elect trump is confirming that he is only received the daily presidential briefing about once a week since the election and addressing skepticism about the findings from the intelligence community and that skepticism is creating a growing rift between the incoming president and the spy agencies. first reported on the bad blood and doesn't seem to be getting better anytime soon. >> i don't have to be told, like a smart person. the same thing and same words every day for the next eight
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years. >> with me, david nakamura. good to see you. when you have an open wound like this one, how is it possible and important to remember, there's not once by agency. there are 16 different spy agencies that have to, you know, it's their job to make sure that the president has the information to make is right decisions. how do they deal with this? >> it's a lot of information that these agencies are collecting every day and trying to boil down for us in assessment for president obama to get this every day in the oval office in a private setting. for donald trump, it's been saying this even during the campaign when he first started to receive these briefings. i don't trust intelligence and sort of marginalizing what these professionals do and now it's an open antagonism and impugning the integrity of the agencies because he feels like the analysis on the russia intervention in this election is
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misguided or politically motivated and this has prompted unprecedented reaction from some of the agencies in question. got a statement last night from intelligence officials saying it's concentrated everything that these professionals find valuable about protecting the country but this is a threat landscape that's as complex and diverse as any. >> donald trump made some allusion to the fact my people will come in and they've got my people and i respect them but disagree with them. the intelligence community responds to them, the people who, the desk analyst, the people who compile the information that goes to the president, they're not partisans. >> right. exactly. what's interesting, his own vice president is taking these briefings every day pretty much through the week he does find this valuable and understands that. whether that's the continued relationship going forward remains to be seen but ongoing fuller review that president obama ordered about russia's
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involvement supposed to be finished before he's leaving office. how do we proceed with this? >> the new boss, you could be in trouble. in addition to this disagreement over russian hacking, donald trump is now questioning the one china policy. let's talk about this for a second because there are actually other americans who say, who invented this one china policy? we just decided that we like the people's republic of china. you don't have to be too old to remember we used to not believe it existed, just like, taiwan. and it's an interesting diplomatic game that trump is playing here. >> this goes back to richard nixon in china to the west and a delegate game and certainly have a relationship with taiwan but agreed as a bipartisan administration to maintain this policy to have some working relationship and stability with china which is not just a rival but also a big major partner and even more so now, as they rise economically and militarily. president obama has kept this
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policy in place and one of the first things out of the box that donald trump does is talk to the president of taiwan, contrary to all the things that previous presidents have done. they're signaling this may not be a full shift but we don't know what the end game is. if there's not a fuller strategy, does not make a lot of sense. >> he said, what's wrong with having a conversation? and said in the campaign as did many republican candidates they're going to rip up the iran deal. now got benjamin netanyahu hoping he might do that. listen to what netanyahu said last night. >> i think what options we have are much more, many more. >> like what? >> president trump, quite a few, actually. >> if you put sanctions back on, the other signatories to the deal won't. >> there are various ways of undoing it. >> you have something in your mind. >> about five things. >> one? >> i like to talk to the president before i talk to "60 minutes."
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>> donald trump and benjamin netanyahu answering in a similar fashion but the agencies donald trump doesn't want to seem to listen to said don't scrap this iran deal, that's dangerous. where does that leave us and iran? iran to deal with boeing for 80 planes. 70 billion. >> it is hard to undo that. i think europeans want to keep this in place, certainly the russians and chinese part of this deal and as we've atalked about, if all the countries did not reoppopose sanctions. donald trump named a number of military advisors. michael flynn and general mattis at the pentagon who really sort of view iran as a malignant evil country. they've been skeptical of this deal as well. so there's going to be a lot of internal pressure possibly for trump to move forward as well as from benjamin netanyahu who made a forceful case through congress last week much to the chagrin of
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the obama administration. >> there's a bunch of senior people in iran who don't like the deal either, so they can all get together and talk about it. david ncakamura. thank you. michael hayden fires back about the security briefings trump calls repetitive and live to beijing with a fresh warning for president-elect trump over one china policy. stay with us. to do the best for your pet, you should know more about the food you choose. with beyond, you have a natural pet food that goes beyond telling ingredients to showing where they come from. beyond assuming the source is safe... to knowing it is. beyond asking for trust... to earning it. because, honestly, our pets deserve it. beyond. natural pet food.
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out a majority of the daily intelligence briefings. sunday he called the information excessive and repetitive. terms worrisome to veteran intel officials. >> they aren't the same thing every day, joe. they're different every day. the world changes, different
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topics are highlighted. they are used not just for urgent news and immediate warning, they're used to build up the database that the president will rely on over his time in office. >> with me now is secretary william cohen, former defense secretary under bill clinton. good to see you again. >> good to see you. >> i think back to 9/11. andy carr, we have all seen the video going over and whispering into president bush's ear about what has happened and the idea that that can happen on a president's first day in office or the first week or first month and you've got to have far more knowledge about decisions than you'd ever think one needs to have about these things. what do you need to do when the president doesn't feel it's important? >> i think it's very discouraging to have president-elect trump take that position because you need information on a daily basis to be sure and often even more than
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a daily basis. when i was at the pentagon, i'd look forward to these briefings every morning and to go over what had happened overnight and what was likely to happen that day and that week. and so the president has to make decisions sometimes on a very spontaneous basis and he has to have information presented to him which he accepts or rejects but at least has this dialogue with the people charged to be collecting that information. and i think the most serious thing is to degrade the intelligence community or belittle it and say they're bumbling or bias, you are creating a situation in which people will no longer trust the information unless the president endorses it, so therefore unless it supports the president's position, it's not to be believed. very dangerous for our country. >> you wake up monday morning, you'll have seen there were terror incidents in istanbul and cairo, yemen, all things that you have to have a deep knowledge about.
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a lot of people are comparing this to president nixon who didn't like these briefings but got them all from henry kissinger. what's the difference other than the fact it's 2016? there's a lot more information to get, but can the president get everything he needs to get from an inner circle as opposed to intelligence briefs? >> can he do so? i think the answer is yes. it depends on how close his advisors are to him, what their perception of the intelligence is. if you go through a filter, however, then that intligee passes through a facility we ils own biases saying, i don't believe it or accept it. if you want to maintain the morale and credibility of the intelligence community, you've got to have a relationship with that community and say that i trust in the integrity of the process. i may come to disagree or not accept the ultimate recommendations or analysis, but i need to have the information so that i can make an informed
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decision. absent that, to simply say i'm smart, people with the information must be dumb and therefore needed. i think the president-elect needs for more and more information directly to him and not filtered. >> let's talk about the russia stuff. what did you hear with people like sean spicer saying if they're so sure the russians did something to influence the election, why not make it public and let americans themselves make a decision? >> i think that's what's going to happen. president obama has apparently given an indication he'd like to see a report before he leaves office. you've got a bipartisan committee on capitol hill that wants to investigate it. to have russia, if russia has intervened in any way, that really is a national security issue. that strikes at the heart of our democracy. i don't expect him to say but i expect him to say i don't
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tolerate other countries interfering with our right to vote and my power to find out what happened and make sure it doesn't happen again. that's the kind of statement i'd like to hear coming out of the president-elect. >> finally, i'd want to ask you because you've been in republican and democratic administrations, one china is something that's been bipartisan for many years but again, donald trump is raising the possibility of america not having a one china policy. there was a time when what we called taiwan was china and the other china we didn't recognize. tell me what your thoughts are on him bringing this up. >> i think it's a fundamental mistake. number one, i question why president-elect trump suddenly embraced president putin and what putin has done in crimea, in jordan, to stabilize ukraine and what he's doing in aleppo by bombing innocent civilians, trying to embrace him and then trying to rattle china's cage
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saying i'm going to have a different relationship with taiwan. china is vital to our national security interests. it's a major country with major interests that we share. it also is a competitor. but to simply start up before you get into office and say, i'm going to have a much more difficult relationship with china and embrace russia, i think it raises questions that need to be explored by congress saying what exactly is the relationship between president-elect trump and what is his business interests in russia that make him so enamored with president putin? >> important questions that you raise. good to see you again. thank you. what do we know about the man donald trump may tap about the top diplomat and where he stands on sticky global policies?
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>> why does a business executive make sense as the chief diplomat? >> much more than a business executive. he's a world class player. he's in charge of an oil company that's pretty much double the size of his next competitor. it's been a company that's been unbelievably managed and to me, a great advantage is he knows many of the players and knows them well. he does massive deals in russia, he does massive deals for the company. >> donald trump defending his likely choice for secretary of state, rex tillerson, the trump transition team said the decision could come this week. who is this career oil man? i'm joined by my colleague, stephanie ruhle. before we talk about him, nobody is going to accuse you or me of being anti-business but i'm a little puzzled about the fact we named a goldman guy to treasury. we've named another goldman guy
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to the senior of the president and oil ceo and i have been joking that, do we need a pharma and tobacco ceo to round it out? doesn't seem like this was the idea with draining the swamp. i'm not anti-business. >> i don't know if i would agree with you because draining the swamp, he said we're not going to have the people in washington who have been there year after year. we didn't think we were going to go to this extreme, but listen, rex tillerson is a deal guy. super successful corporate deal guy. that's what donald trump likes, and if you look at rex's history, he has a career exxonmobil guy, been their ceo since 2006. never worked anywhere else but the places he's gone, others have said the former ambassador said he's an excellent corporate diplomat. but being a corporate diplomat is far different than being a secretary. >> if you look at the top 100 companies, the ceo of an
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american ford company is fundamentally an american business. the ceo of the biggest oil company or the five biggest oil companies, these are multinational business for whom every government is a bit of a pain in the rear end. >> it's an understatement. when you think about rex tillerson and exxon's ties specifically to russia, back in 2011, they signed a partnership, the biggest oil and gas company in russia, 70% owned by the kremlin. when they sign this partnership, they didn't just sign it ceo to ceo but did it at vladimir pu n putin's vacation house in sochi. so there are real ties there. it is because it was advantageous for both of them to potentially drill in the gulf of mexico and in the arctic, except, of course, when the sanctions came and then you're not drilling in the arctic and it is those sanctions. >> cannot drill in the arctic without an american. they don't have the technology to do that. >> they need the partnership. >> the question is not about rex tillerson's qualifications,
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nobody thinks he's not a well qualified global guy. the question is, whether the priority should be having a guy who's the ceo of a global energy firm as your secretary of state, your chief diplomat? the interests may not be the same. >> we heard this with donald trump's other picks that they haven't been the man of the people. but now they have a different job. but specifically, secretary of state. given how sensitive this job is in terms of foreign affairs, from a humanitarian perspective and environmental perspective, this has many people even other republicans very concerned. >> this will be talked about more. >> you have to say, rex tillerson, that is a strong name. >> a strong name and a strong ceo but doesn't give a lot of interviews. we don't know him that well. >> boy scouts of america more than most business journalists. >> led and did a good job with. president-elect trump getting intense pushback from china where officials are very concerned about him possibly
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backtracking on the decades old one china policy. >> we have to be bound by bun china policy unless we make a deal with china having to do with other things including trade. and look, we're being hurt badly by china with devaluation, taxing us heavy at the borders when we don't tax them. >> with reaction inside china, joined by my old friend, cnbc beijing correspondent, eunice yoon. some of the strongest words from china when it comes to president-elect trump. what are you hearing? >> reporter: that's absolutely correct, ali. beijing issued a stern warning to donald trump saying that if the president-elect were to abandon the one china policy, then beijing and washington would have nothing further to discuss. the foreign ministry said the
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one china principle is the political bedrock for china u.s. relations if it is compromised or disputed, the sound and steady development of china relationship as well as other major issues would have out of the question. those words were obtained coming out of the state media. the state run news agency xinhua just posted a commentary titled principles not impulsiveness needed for china/u.s. ties and the global times, a communist party paper also described trump as naive like a child when it comes to foreign policy and a man who has no idea how dangerous his words can be. china considers a one china principle to be core to its interests, regarding taiwan. the u.s. recognized this principle since the 1970s and china just grisles at any suggestion that taiwan is an independent country instead of
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what beijing believes it to be, a rogue province. i spoke to one long time china analyst who said to me that it's not really such a bad idea for washington to take on a tougher line when it comes to beijing, however, he's concerned about what's a blunt move of trump escalating possibly confrontation with beijing. as he puts it, he said you really shouldn't poke a tiger in the eye. >> let me ask you u ththis. china anything but impulsive, so they would like to put this aside as donald trump just sort of poking the tyiiger in the ey. what about the taiwanese? and get their action back on the side of the water? >> reporter: well, a spokesperson for taiwan's presidential office didn't have any specific comments tonight about trump's remarks, however, there is concern on the island that taiwan could suffer because
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of any dispute between washington and beijing, that beijing could become angry and impose more economic restrictions which could hurt taiwan's economy and there's also concern on the island that taiwan could become a pawn between greater negotiations between china and the u.s. and understandably that's causing kwieblt quite a bit of concern over there. >> thank you so much. eunice yoon, cnbc's beijing bureau chief for us. coming up, the latest in the string of terror attacks in turkey this year. dozens, dozens killed in a boulder front in a major sporting venue. what is uncovered so far. judge set to decide with the fate of a florida set to hire an undercover cop to kill her husband. and accusations that police crossed the line.
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police today conducted raids and arrested more than 200 people in the wake of saturday's deadly bomb blast. more than 40 killed by an istanbul soccer stadium and 36 of the fatalities were police officers. kelly cobiella live in london. do authorities know who's responsible? >> they have a good idea. there's been a claim by a kurdish militant group called the kyrgyzstan freedom. two members carried out this attack, a car bombing, very powerful and a suicide bombing at 10:30 at night and shook up people in istanbul and the reason the government suspected kurdish militants in first place, as you mentioned, police
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appeared to be the target. not civilians. that's the typical modus operandi for these kurdish rebel groups attacks government targets, not civilian targets. ali? >> one of the several devastating things that happened including a deadly bombing in egypt yesterday. at least 25 christians killed in an explosion at the koptic cathedral. what do we know about this one? >> this happened during sunday mass. a crowded sunday mass. the explosion happening in the part of the church primarily used by women. a couple reported a woman leaving a package inside and possibly detonating it remotely. turns out according to the government, anyway, that that was not the case. egypt's president abdel fadel said it was the work of a 22-year-old suicide bomber reportedly this man carrying 26
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pounds of explosives. so you can imagine the impact. also said that three men and a woman have been arrested. they're looking for two other suspects. ali, what we don't know at this point is whether they're affiliated with any group linked to any group or sympathize with any group, isis or some other militant group within egypt. ali, no official claim of responsibility from any group at this point. >> that's unusual it hasn't come yet. kelly cobiella in london for us. back in the united states, jurors return to court in the charleston church shooter dylann roof. they've had the weekend to digest his chilling confession which was played for the first time on friday. we'll play it for you next.
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emanuel ame church in charleston june 17, 2015. he was arrested the next morning and confessed. mariana atencio is in charleston. roof confessed to the shootings after his arrest, or shortly after his arrest but it was seen for the first time in court. what kind of impact did it have? >> reporter: just hear him admit to the massacre left the courtroom stunned and then the why he did it. his views on race, those were tough to hear, even for us reporters. i can't begin to imagine what it was like for victims family members and the food seated in close proximity and you can sense the obvious tension in the
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room, they could step out of this courtroom if it was just too much to bear. the defense own mother and dylann roof in his own words explaining why he did it, he did it to start a race war, to kill as many black people in one place as possible. i want us to hear a bit of that video now. >> i went to that church in charleston and i did it. well, i did, i killed, well, i guess, i don't really know how many people really. >> how come? that's what i don't know. >> well, i had to do it because somebody had to do something.
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>> reporter: ali, we hear more witness testimony in the courtroom now and this phase of the trial moving very quickly. prosecution said they may finish the presentation midweek and then it's the defense's turn but they also admitted they'll be calling few, if any, witnesses so this could be wrapped up by this friday. >> mariana atencio in charleston, south carolina. thank you. now in a courtroom drama in florida where a woman is accused of hiring a hit man to kill her husband. at the center of the case, hidden camera video of a fake crime scene set up by police. nbc's kerry sanders reports from west palm beach. >> it is the video they don't want you to see. >> i'm sorry, he's been killed. >> reporter: boynton beach police officers set up a fake crime scene telling dippolito that her husband had just been murdered. the video posted the same day it
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was taken in 2009. the police abused their power and only wanted to get sensational video for the tv show cops. dippolito's attorney said she never intended to have her husband killed and they set her up. >> posting all of this footage for the world to see. do you believe that is good police practices? yes or no? >> i can't answer that. >> reporter: the tape came up during defense questioning and that opened the door to play the video. the judge could make a ruling later today. jurors have seen this of talking to an undercover cop. >> we find the defendant guilty. >> reporter: solicitation to 20 years but the decision was thrown out on appeal and actions
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on video are once again at the center of the case. >> 100% on orders, her actions, her intent. >> we'll ask this jury to disregard those videotapes this world has seen because they are a direct by-product of police corruption. >> reporter: live into the courtroom, you can see brian has on the stand right now an expert who is a former police officer from los angeles area talking about the way the boynton chief handled this investigation and whether that video would not be seen and whether the door is not. and whether it will impact the
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jury when the decision is ultimately made. the biggest question, will dalia dippolito take the stand herself? >> thank you very much. kerry sanders for us in west palm beach. trump to meet with silicon valley elite. fly on the wall preview with all sides figuring out what they've got to gain and the issues that could come in the way when we come backment . [vo] quickbooks introduces jeanette and her new mobile wedding business. at first, getting paid was tough... until she got quickbooks. now she sends invoices, sees when they've been viewed
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president-elect trump, a who's who in silicon valley. larry page of alphabet and google fame. apple's tim cook. sharyl sandberg and owner of the "washington post," e lon musk and intel oracle. joining me from palo alto, california.
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michael ferdig. this is a varied group. no question. older companies like the microsofts and intel, but the tech community hasn't as a whole been behind donald trump. so what do they want out of this meeting? >> they're generally opposed to donald trump. you can see the fingerprints of peter teal on this meeting but some have held out and declined. one of the great social and civic agitators of silicon valley. meg whitman, railed against donald trump did not come. silicon valley, this particular meeting, silicon valley is an extraordinary place to do extraordinary things but in some ways, it's comprised of people who have to do ordinary things. so i think this is a meeting of business interests, they're going to talk to trump and talk about tax deregulation and the
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cash and immigration which is very valuable to silicon valley. they need a lot of high skilled labor, not unlike the hb 1 visa holder melania trump. you wish when you see a meeting like this, you wish for something more. i'm holding out they will have something more. >> you're sort of saying this is an industry meeting the same as -- >> when the anti-piracy bill hit congress called sopa and pipa. shut down and redirected viewers and users to pages where they arctticulated the opposition an in ten minutes, it disappeared and was dead. >> they're not going in to say this is how we need you to run tech america. >> you're right. but a girl can wish, ali. so i am hoping, i am hoping that this is not sort of a hi guys,
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economic deal. let's talk about it. they start to. >> if they had to sit down at starbucks and met trump, say, we're going to discuss one thing. would it be immigration? >> it should be and will be immigration. high-tech immigration. so one thing that most americans could agree on vis-a-vis immigrations is that high skilled workers should be welcomed. that's the engine of growth. every high skilled, we get three american jobs. good for tax base, good for the economy and yet whether it's the democrats or the republicans another year, this tends to get held up for anothother types. build a wall or let grandma in. whatever it is. i hope they lock arms on immigration and i'd be surprised if donald trump really in his heart of hearts, such as he may have one opposes high skilled immigration. the victory i think they'll get, i have to predict, i think the
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victory they'll get is repatriation of cash. large trillions of dollars held overseas by these companies and sitting there in the balance sheet, i think trump will support repatriation of cash at lower tax rates. >> got to go. i need a little cash and only get that if we go to a commercial. i truly hate to end the conversation, but as you say, a girl can wish. always a pleasure. >> my pleasure. >> we'll be right back.
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