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52% of you say no. that is a flip-flop from what we saw earlier this hour. keep voting. pulse.msnbc.com. the pulse is open for the next 60 minutes. for the next 60 minutes, you'll be helmed by ali velsher in new york. ahead this hour on msnbc live, breaking news, the suspect that attacked on the market in germany may still be on the run. we'll go live to the city of berlin, a city in mourning. and heightened security is at place at markets here at home. also, sweeps across turkey after the assassination of russia's ambassador. new information on the assassin, including why investigators believe he may not have acted alone. and the president-elect responds to both of these attacks. where donald trump is placing blame. let's begin with that breaking news in germany. at this hour, the hunt is on for the attacker who drove a truck into a crowded christmas market. authorities have just released
the pakistani man originally arrested near the scene of the attack. federal prosecutors say there is not enough evidence to pursue a case. 12 were confirmed killed, dozens more injured when a truck plowed into a busy berlin holiday market. the u.s. warned about a similar style attack weeks ago. >> back in november, before thanksgiving, we did issue a europe travel alert that just advised people to be vigilant. we just want people to be self-aware. as you remember, andrea, we did the same thing back in may before the summer travel season. >> security has been tightened at holiday markets in europe and here in the united states. let's begin our coverage in the german capital with nbc's matt bradley. matt? >> reporter: thanks, ali. as you said, the latest news we have is that a 23-year-old pakistani man who was the original suspect in this case has just been released. and that's because police said they didn't have the evidence to tie him to the crime. even eyewitnesss couldn't place
him in the cab of the truck that rammed into those people in the christmas market behind me last night. and the cctv evidence didn't place him there, neither did the forensic evidence that showed that there had been some sort of fight and probably a murder in the cab of that truck. so this man is walking free tonight. and that means that the perpetrator, the man who killed a dozen people last night at this christmas market, that he's still on the run. now, in which direction is this going to go? we're not sure. it seems like it is back to square one. the police aring willing at cctv cameras, as you can see around me, behind me was where the incident occurred. there's lots of shops, it's a major commercial area. there's video cameras all around recording everything that's going on. and the police are going to be combing through all of that to try to find out who they can connect to this crime. now, as you mentioned, the police are sure that this was a deliberate act of homicide. what they don't necessarily know, and what i imagine they are probably going to be stepping back from, is whether or not this was an actual
terrorist attack. the arrest of this young pakistani man who applied for asylum a year ago when he arrive in germany was met with reaction by a lot of right-wing elements here in germany who blamed this on angela merkel and her famous open-door policy for immigrants when she invited so many immigrants into the country last summer. now, if this doesn't turn out to be an asylum seeker, that could change the direction of the german politics and the reaction to the politics here. ali? >> you can probably see cctv cameras all around you. berlin is like many major american cities where, for the central core of it, every move you make is on camera. but the u.s. has offered some help. president obama has spoken with angela merkel about the attack. is the u.s. involved in trying to help germany? or do they need the help in finding whoever the attacker or attackers were? >> reporter: well, of course, ali, germany has a very
sophisticated police squad. and they are going to be ahead of the game here when it comes to tracking down this killer. now, as far as we know, there was a phone conversation between barack obama and chance louisialor chancellor angela merkel last night. president obama extended an offer and doubled down on committing to fight crime in general. the united states does seem to help and the obama administration does seem to want to pitch in during this investigation. it's unclear what role they will be playing moving forward. >> matt, we'll stay in touch with you, matt bradley there in berlin. turkish investigators are looking to see where the gunman acted alone when he assassinated the russian ambassador in public. andre carlovs body was given full honors. he was shot dead by a 22-year-old turkish policeman. russian officials have arrived
to see if this attack was more complicated than the work of a lone gunman. nbc's lucy cavanaugh is live in london with the latest on this. lucy, what are the russians and the turkish authorities looking at? what are they looking for? they know, they have video of a man who shot the ambassador. what are they looking for? eporter: ali, the big question is figuring out both motivation and affiliation, if there was any. was this a lone wolf situation? was the gunman really just so affected by the war in syria, remember right before killing the ambassador, he shout in turkish, "don't forget syria, don't forget aleppo"? or was this more of a conspiracy. that's how the kremlin described this today. the russians are clearly wondering how this young police officer was able to get access. we saw more chilling video footage e merge today of him calmly walking around the room, looking at photographs and standing right behind the ambassador before pulling out
the gun and shooting him, killing him with the cameras rolling. turkish officials have detained about half dozen people today, pardon me, including reportedly some members of the gunman's family. now the turks are looking into possible links to the u.s.-based preacher whose group is effectively accused by turkey of masterminding the coup attempt in turkey in july. goulan has been in self-exiled pennsylvania. a lot of conspiracy theories are flying around in the turkish media about u.s. involvement. because the americans are seen by some turks as harboring this cler cleric. john we akirby says that is a baseless charge. gulan denied the accusations. but what is interesting here, ali, is the degree to which both russia and turkey appear to be trying to deescalate the situation. i mean, if you think back to about a year ago, even more, russia and turkey have been on
opposite sides of the syrian conflict. relations tanked a year ago by the shoot down of the plane by the turkish military. a warming of ties in an unspoken quid pro quo when it comes to syria, it seems. so it looks like this assassination, if anything, does not seem to be putting a wge between the two sides. in fact, if anything, it seems to be cementing the relationship between the former friendemies. >> lucy cavanaugh in london, thank you. joining me is a military analyst and senior policy adviser for the counter extremism project. and with me, foreign correspondent ayman mohyeldin. we are now seeing the strength anything and reinforcement of the soft targets in the united states. we are at one right now. is that the reality of how we
fight this? >> yeah, this is going to be a challenge for security and law enforcement officials going forward for some time to come. because it's not just the soft targets in open public spaces, sideways, people were walking, large crowds, outside our building here at rockefeller center. also shopping malls are big vulnerable targets. you walk the fine line between free dooms adoms and the person liberties. we don't have metal detectors at the shopping malls, but then the question is, how much of your public freedom are you giving up for security. every time you see these attacks you see the needle shift a little. but you are hearing from officials saying they will not compromise on their way of life. they are not going to change their way of life and the things we like to do because of who we are. but at the same time it shows we have vulnerabilities, not just in the security of the public places, but also in the issue of radicalization and the issue of extremism. this individual, we don't know who he is, and we are hearing from matt, now that the suspect
has been released or this individual has been released, the identity of who they may be looking for is important to understand this attack. but if this turns out the to be radicalization and extremism, we have to ask when this happened and how do you prevent this from happening again? that is nearly impossible to answer. >> which is a substantially more complicated issue than knowing exactly what happened. terry, you are involved in countering violent extremism. we just heard on andrea mitchell's show a little while ago, john kirby said, we issued a warning about this and issued a warning back in maichy. but the warnings are general, be vigilant when traveling across europe or in turkey. how much information do the europeans, the americans, the turks, actually have. and how much of that actually gets shared with each other, let alone law enforcement and intelligence bodies within a country? >> sure. well, the state department warning that was issued, there
was another one in november. it did pick out christmas time, holiday season, open air markets. it talked about that. those are not new warnings. those types of warnings tend to arise around the holiday season. however, you have also seen reports and warnings from homeland security about truck attacks and knife attacks. because isis propaganda and materials of extremist groups have been profiling those types of attacks in their materials and calling on individuals to use trucks and knives for attacks. >> i want to go further in this point. so what you're saying is the intelligence is based on the fact that we know those who go on the websites or who follow what isis and other groups like that might be saying, we know that is what they're recommending, that individuals perpetrate, it's not necessarily knowledge of a specific attack. >> it's usually both. but the problem with intelligence sometimes on attacks is you can have general strategic intelligence. a group wants to carry out attacks during christmas time. a group wants to attack open air markets. a group is planning to do attacks on gatherings of large
crowds. you need the action time and place. that is usually very specific intelligence. that's usually tracking an individual involved with the attack or have a tip from somebody on the inside that hears about it. that's why you need to thwart the attack prior to the initiation of it. having said that, our intelligence community is pretty good about knowing a general sense of what types of attacks are upcoming, where they might target. we saw this, i mean, the infamous example of this is the pdb, the president's daily brief, before september 11th. there was not a time and place. it was not preventable because of the time and place, but there was intelligence about the desire to use airplanes, for example. and i think what you're seeing now is very similar. we know the types of attacks these individuals want to carry out, we know where they want to target, we know where a lot of the cells are, brussels, a high population of radicalized individuals, paris. but time and place are critical. in the german place, a truck was stolen. there's a window of time when the truck was stolen to the attack. even if we couldn't prevent the initial start of the attack, i'm
curious to see what transpire in that timeframe because that is where something perhaps could have been done to prevent. >> what a world we're in, tara, where a vehicle being stolen elevates to the level to get national security involvement. that is the world we're going to get used to living in. tara, thank you so much for joining us. my colleague, ayman mohyeldin. security is being beefed up across the u.s. and in europe, pretty much all over the world. do you feel safe thisoliday season? the pulse is live. let us know what you think at pulse.msnbc.com. just 31 days until donald trump takes the oath. as he prepares to call the oval office his own, the new public reveals the public is skeptical heading into trump's first term. where americans stand and what trump can do, if anything, to turn that tide. world ugly and messy. they are the natural born enemy of the way things are.
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take a look at that dow, 19,964. the business world is all a-twitter about the idea that the dow may hit 20,000, which it ultimately will do, but we don't know if it will happen. it got within 13 points of it. if it happens and when it happens, i'll be here to put it in perspective for you. to let you know what, if anything, you should be doing. but as we await that 20,000 milestone, figure out where your stock portfolio is if you have one and how to log in if you need to make changes to it. don't get too crazy about it, it's just a number. and donald trump clearing an electoral college hurdle as he was cleared as the president of the united states. once inaugurated, just 31 more days until he's sworn in. the country is deeply divided. a new nbc news/wall street
journal poll finding 46% of americans view the president-elect negatively. while the election is over, trump is still battling a clinton. the president-elect taking to twitter after comments that bill clinton made about the election to a small new york newspaper. this happened as trump continues his transition. senior communications adviser shawn spicer says trump is expected to make major announcements from mara lago. >> president-elect trump is down at mara lago meeting with qualified individuals as he has for the last 40 days. he's going to continue to do that. and i would expect announcements over the next couple of days. >> joining me now is msnbc political analyst and "washington post" national political reporter robert costa. robert, good to see you. bill clinton firing the latest salvo moments ago saying, one thing he and donald trump can agree on, bill clinton did call
donald trump on election night. what do you make of this twitter feud that's broken out between them? >> it was a response and an acknowledgment by the former president that he did indeed call mr. trump. but the whole situation is unusual. among the former presidents, incoming presidents, current presidents, they try to get along. there's a club by atmosphere in the ranks for decades. and it's been quite intriguing to see them sparring so publicly. >> two attacks overseas, the trump administration still being put together, what are your sources telling you about what is going on inside the transition team right now? >> right now lieutenant general flynn, the retired general, is working closely with trump my sources tell me, including with flynn's expanding team, to make sure trump's ready. but you also have vice president-elect pence playing a crucial role. he met yesterday with former secretary of state kissinger. he was meeting today with pence in washington with the incoming secretary of state if he's now
confirmed, rex tillerson. you have a whole network around trump, not just trump getting ready for these issues. >> the trump team did respond to the two attacks in russia and in berlin. let's hear some of what they've said. >> we cannot be politically correct. we have to understand the threat we face and attack it straight on. >> i know we have walked back from the muslim ban, but i do think we need to fortify areas around syria. >> frankly, we have to stop looking the other way, too. sometimes we let political correctness and convention overtake what is incredibly important here, which is to protect americans, american allies, our interests abroad and at home. >> so we don't have intelligence that tells us, in particular, in turkey or in germany, whose behind the attack. we have been discussing this at length. but donald trump's response is to say he's going to wipe out isis. he's been tweeting about it, he's been talking about it.
is there a clear -- here's his tweet that says, today there were terror attacks in turkey, switzerland and germany. and it is only getting worse. the civilized world must change its thinking. these are aspirations. what's the plan on action? >> it remains to be seen on many fronts. it will be the key challenge trump faces. does he have a coalition to go after the islamic state early next year? and who would be his partners in that kind of endeavor? how would he work, perhaps, with the assad regime or putin in russia, would he work with them at all? you have the instinct from trump to go after the forces, but not a coherent policy. he has the push but not so much a plan. >> robert costa, thank you for joining us. next, contact with the kremlin. nbc news learning new exclusive details about the moves that president obama made to protect your vote. his strong signal to putin and how he went about it on the other side of the break. owe iliin h .no s
new exclusive details today surrounding the response to russia meddling in the u.s. election. two senior intelligence officials telling nbc news that days before the election, the u.s. contacted the kremlin. now the method of communication, you've heard of this before, the so-called red phone, which i've learned is neither red nor a phone, it's an e-mail line directly linking washington and moscow. the message, any interference would be considered, quote, a grave matter. the wording is important. senior investigative correspondent cynthia mcfadden is joining me here in the studio. cynthia, you have information on the back and forth between president obama and vladimir putin. and the wording was very careful. when president obama gave his press conference, he said, i told vladimir putin to cut it out. but, in fact, the choice of words was relevant. >> it's two different meanings, let's not confuse them. what the president was talking about in his press conference
was when he pulled vladimir putin aside in the g-20 summit on september 4th. what we're talking about is a transmission, let's call it, between the white house and the kremlin on october 31st, halloween, i which very specific language was used to explain to the kremlin, to mr. putin, the u.s. position, which was that to engage in these kind of cyber activities was a violation of international law, and specifically military aggression. and so that the white house would take this seriously and seek to enforce that law. you know, there are advisers inside the white house. we know one senior adviser who wanted president obama to actually draw a red line and say, we consider any meddling in the actual day of the election, we would consider that an act of war. >> right. and he made a choice not to do that. >> yeah. and he felt it would further up flame an already desperately complicated and really on the risk situation. >> to our audience, what is the
distinction between violation and an act of war. i would imagine two countries talking about war with each other does take this to a different level. >> i interviewed the former naval commander about this before we put the piece on the air, he said, listen, cynthia, that's the ultimate red line, the act of war. then you're allowed to defend yourself and attack back. so i think -- the admiral's point of view was that the president made the appropriate decision. but senior intelligence officials we spoke to, a career person in the government whose nonpartisan, said that the concern was that the message communicated to the russians was somehow slightly muddled and that the russian reaction as a result was muddled. >> muddled from the technical sense? or unclear message? >> no, unclear what the consequences would be. should they, in fact,
particate -- meddle in some way on the day of the election. now, the administration would say, hold it. look, one thing u.s. intelligence completely agreed about is that no foreign power, not russia or anybody else, there's no intelligence at all suggesting anyone did meddle on the day of the election. so that warning was sent. and as far as americans were concerned, that message was heeded. >> correct. i think we should do a moment on the red phone. there is no red phone. it's very disappointing to me. >> this is devastating to me. >> me, too. we grew up as kids knowing there was a red phone. no red phone. never was, not in 1963 or now. >> wow. >> yeah. it's a direct tin can, if you will, between the kremlin and the white house. and it has evolved over the years. i was fascinated to find out that in 2013, anticipating that cyber would become ever more complex, a cyber component was added to this -- there were a variety of things that go into this alleged red phone, this
so-called red phone. they added a cyber component, which is used for a cyber concern. this communication with the kremlin was the very first time it had ever been used. >> interesting. a strange time we live in. thank you for that, cynthia. much information in there we didn't know about. coming up next, the blame game over yesterday's deadly ordeal in berlin. the president-elect and a potential member in his cabinet are pointing fingers. do their words point a risk? but as we head to a break, we'll look live at berlin where a memorial is being held for the lives lost in last night's attack. (war drums beating)
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public to the health hazards caused by tainted water. nine people were previously charged. here in new york city, police have arrested a man and woman for a stabbing in times square this weekend. two victims were in serious condition, but they are expected to survive. the attack is one of several recent attacks in midtown this weekend, including a tourist shot and killed near bryant park. and another stabbing near grand central station. and in berlin, just last hour, police released the man detained in connection with the deadly attack at a christmas market. prosecutors saying there is enough evidence to hold him. 12 people were killed in the crime when a truck rammed into a crowd. nearly 50 more were injured. u.s. officials are on alert keeping an eye on holiday crowds in the wake of the attack in berlin. among the cities seeing beefed up security is chicago. that's where we find blake mccoy. blake, good afternoon to you. what are you seeing on the ground around you and what are you not seeing? what is going on behind the
scenes? >> reporter: ali, good afternoon. police here are not being shy about their increased security presence. you can see this truck here that has been added to the entrance. there's another truck on the other side to add as an additional barrier to the entrance in light of what happened in berlin. now here in chicago, this christmas market, very popular market, takes place in the courtyard of a courthouse. so there's a lot of security that's already in place. you can see these stone benches that completely surround the market. those are permanent benches. they have been here all along. but look at what's new. you have a lot more police officers on bicycles and on foot patrolling this market. if we show you inside, what happened in berlin is not keeping the crowds away. this is the 20th year that this market has taken place here. the largest market of its kind. and it is modeled off the german christmas markets. so while we are seeing increased security in chicago, police want to make it very clear that they have not received any specific
threats to this event or any other in the chicago area. ali? >> blake mccoy for us in chicago. thank you, blake. donald trump responding to yesterday's berlin attack with a statement that reads in part, quote, isis and other islamist terrorists continually slaughter christians in their communities and places of worship as part of their global jihad. the terrorists in their regional and worldwide networks must be eradicated from the face of the earth, a mission we will carry out with all freedom-loving partners, end quote. joining me is ambassador to the united nations, bill richardson. ambassador, good to to see you. thank you for being with us. neither isis nor the islamic state or any other terrorist group has yet claimed responsibility for the berlin attack. what's the danger or is there any danger in releasing a statement like this before anybody knows who or what was behind the attack? is it the opposite of the obama administration being accused of
never saying radical islamic terrorism? >> reporter: well, i would like to say something supportive of the president-elect, but, you know, to frame this attack as a clash of civilizations, christians against muslims, it helps isis recruit. it helps inflame the situation. i wish the president-elect wouldn't do foreign policy by tweet or there should be, i think, more concerted effort. one, get more information. number two, find ways that we can not make this an inflammatory charge against muslim countries that are our allies. that we're going to need against the fight against terrorism. you know, most of those slaughtered by isis are muslims. in iraq, all over the world, so to frame this so succinctly as a clash of civilizations is not good. it's a bit dangerous.
it doesn't help the situation. >> well, it gets a little better than that, governor. john bolton, donald trump's potential pick for deputy secretary of state, seemed to place at least some of the blame on german chancellor angela merkel. listen to what he said. >> by her unilateral action in allowing this wave of refugees to come into europe, she definitely exposed germany and others to the risk of terrorism. >> could bolton's statement offer some insight into what we're going to see on this front? i mean, germany has been a remarkable ally of the united states in the fight against terrorism and arguably suffers as much if not more from the scourge of it. >> well, i disagree with ambassador bolton's statement. because who has been weakened here? angela merkel, who is the last bastian of humanitarianism, nationalism, she was courageous letting the refugees into
germany. now this terror attack, it is politically backfiring. they have german elections next year. i mean, if anything, we should be working with our friends in europe. and germany right now is the leading light on issues relating to internationalism, humanitarianism, yet refugees, economic policies. she's the leader of europe. so to trash her doesn't make sense. i don't understand this fight before the president-elect takes office. i mean, he's going to need germany. >> he's going to be facing this very clearly on syria. the president-elect has called for safe zones. you have advocated no-fly zones. give me the distinge action andl me why you want no-fly zones. >> because we need military protections for the safe zones. the safe zones are refugee zones. and what i worry is that president-elect trump is going to listen to putin.
and putin is going to say, let's back assad. let's not have no-fly zones. let's have safe zones that right now with turkey not necessarily cooperating, the region in flames, that right now this is not a very stable situation in the middle east. so that's my worry, that president-elect putin, because of his ties with putin, and i'm concerned that he hasn't even admitted that there's russian hacking. you know, i want to give him a chance to -- i want to support him on some of these issues, but these foreign policy by tweet, by accusations, this is not good. >> former u.n. ambassador and governor, bill richardson, always good to see you, sir. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. we'll see what you're saying about the microsoft pulse question. after the christmas market terror attack in berlin, security is being beefed up across the u.s. and in europe. do you feel safe this holiday season? so far, 56% of you say yes.
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everything your family touches sticks with them. make sure the germs they bring home don't stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. because no one kills germs better than clorox. bill clinton breaking his silence about why he believes his wife lost the 2016 election. >> you know, i've watched her work for two years, i've watched her battle through the bogus e-mail deal, be vindicated at the end, she fought through that, she fought through everything. and she prevailed against it all, but, you know, at the end we had the russians and the fbi deal, she couldn't prevail against that. but she did everything else and still won by 2.8 million. >> those comments and more sparked a feud with donald trump. in an interview with a small new york newspaper, clinton suggested it was trump who called him following the
election and declared that trump, quote, doesn't know much, but one thing he does know is how to get angry white men to vote for him. well, the 42nd president also takes a swipe at the president-elect's claim that he won in a landslide say, landslide? i got something like 370 electoral votes. that was a landslide. joining me, former vermont governor and msnbc contributor howard dean. also with us, former deputy campaign manager for the carly fiorina campaign, sarah isker florez. donald trump has responded to these remarks by taking to twitter. bill clinton stated that i called him after the election. wrong! he called me with a very nice congratulations. he doesn't know much, especially how to get people, even with an unlimited budget, out to vote in vital swing states and more. they focused on the wrong states. governor dean, donald trump touches on something we have not yet heard the clinton campaign talk about in great detail. what they did wrong to lose this election.
there's a lot of deflection, is there enough reflection going on? >> look, i mean, it's so easy to be using the retrospective scope in politics. i prefer not to do that and like to separate out the two presidents and presidents-to-be. i do think that this legitimacy that the idea that the james comey letter 11 days before the election stopped all the momentum for hillary clinton. that i think is so. but i think to try to break this down, you know, hillary got almost 3 million more votes than trump. trump obviously saw something in wisconsin and michigan and pennsylvania that the clinton campaign didn't see until it was too late. you know, we can dissect this forever. and i don't think we're going to know until a lot more information comes in. >> sarah, let me ask you this, no slight is too small for donald trump to tweet his response to. he brought up michelle obama's
name after her interview with oprah. now he's lashing out during transition time at bill clinton. we have attacks going on around the world. at what point does he let go of doing that and move on to the stuff that most americans hope and expect their president to be dealing with? >> well, people keep wanting donald trump to let go of thing, and yet they forget just yesterday democrats were urging the electoral college not to honor his electoral victory. so he did tweet about isis and he did tweet that they were going to take on islamic radicalism and terrorism. but the fact of the matter is, democrats kept saying before the election that he wasn't going to accept the results. then they were the ones with this recount that failed, the electoral college plan that failed, and now this idea that hillary clinton was somehow entitled to win and it was taken from her. that is just silliness. so yes, the president-elect responds. i don't blame him. >> and governor dean, let me ask you this. as a guy who has run for
president before, and i mean this in the most respectful way, has hung around for a long time, is there a role for the clintons going forward? or do they need to step aside? >> look, first of all, i think what sarah said was not accurate. democrats quote/unquote were not the ones who asked for the recount. that was jill stein. that's like saying that the trump supporters -- >> the clinton campaign participated as well. >> they blessed the recount. that's true. and why not? democracy is part of the democratic process. >> let's get to the issue we're focusing on. we need to be focusing on the president-elect of the united states and what he's doing. the only issue i take with sarah is, i don't care what the clintons are doing. i kind of care what donald trump is doing. >> i do, too. and i think you aught to start by telling the truth and be more truthful. the notion of the landslides and all these things, he says these things. supporters may like them but they are not true. that's a damaging thing. i want this guy to be my president. so far he's doing everything he can to avoid doing either. i want him to succeed.
but you cannot say stuff and make stuff up on twitter every day and have people respect you as president of the united states. he's got to stop it. he's got to get by this. he's got to be a real president. >> last word to sarah. >> then i think the clinton campaign and the democrats need to stop pretending that the popular vote is how we elect presidents. stop trying to do recounts. stop trying to have the electoral college not elect him. if they would accept he won this election, that hillary clinton lost fair and square, i think absolutely, we would all agree to move forward. >> the next interview with the two of you we're moving forward. former governor howard dean and sarah isger-flora, thank you. coming up, the could david friedman and his confirmation halt a resolution to the israeli-palestinian conflict? i'll ask right after this. a e that uses technology once only in doctors' offices. for deep penetrating relief at the source.
refers to people he doesn't like or doesn't agree with, is simply -- should not pass the test for the senate of advice and consent. it should be a nomination that is rejected. >> this is an important issue, and i want you to get my twitter handle for this because i want you to tell me what you are thinking @alivelshi. that's the president of the pro-liberal group called jay street. he was picked for the u.s. ambassador to israel. friedman said he's called groups liberal jews and jew who collaborated with nazis during the war and holocaust. and he wants to move the embassy from tel aviv to jerusalem. i brought on a professional diplomat and politician, joining
me is israeli ambassador to the united nations, denny, thank you for being with us. you specialize in diplomacy. you go to the u.n., a place where israel doesn't have a lot of friends, and your job is to develop contacts and establish some leadership. this is not, friedman's words are not the most diplomatic. so from one diplomat to another, how do you handle this delicate situation? maybe friedman believes that the capital should be in jerusalem, maybe he doesn't believe in a two-state solution. but ambassadors have a unique role. >> first, i want to send our con lo dens to the people in germany and russia. and i have been in politics for years. there's a difference between being a politician and an ambassador. and i'm sure he would present the policy of the trump administrati the same way i would present the policy of
prime minister netanyahu's government. >> your policy seems to have veered a little bit from time to time. it's still in support of a two-state nation. >> prime minister ynetanyahu wil come to meet with president-elect trump. we will do the same with governor haley when she came to the u.n. we are looking forward to working with this administration. >> my issue is with israel, there's diplomatic assistance and pressure to be born on different parties at different times. is it helpful to you for americans to have a more hardline policy on the palestinians than you have?
>> first of all, we are not very popular at the u.n. we do thank the american administration for standing with us. as we speak, there are a few initiatives coming to the security counsel while we are in the transition period. people are trying to take advantage of the transics period and we hope that they continue to support the u.n. security council. >> doesn't america lose leverage if it takes a hardline position that david friedman is articulating and that donald trump is articulating? wouldn't it hurt israel, put your politician hat on for a second, wouldn't it hurt israel if the palestinians decide america is not willing to be a fair broker in this deal? >> well, i think we have seen it so many times, that the americans tried to put us together in the table. it didn't work. >> so eventually they stop trying? >> maybe it will be a new approach. and we are open to coming to washington or go anywhere to negotiate with the palestinians. and i think that people expect something new to come with the new administration. >> when you have this conversation with the americans who say they want to move the
capital to jerusalem, there are some -- >> the embassy. >> i'm sorry, the embassy to jerusalem, treating it as the capital, what do you say to people in that conversation? there are some people who think that would be terrific, that it recognizes jerusalem as the indivisible capital of the jewish people. but a lot of politicians and diplomats realize jerusalem is a tricky issue that could inflame that city again to make a move like that. >> jerusalem has been the capital of the jewish people for 3,000 years. it's about time that all embassies come to jerusalem, the same way we respect every other capital of the world, we expect the people to respect our capital as well. >> so you are not unhappy with the declarations that david friedman has made in the name of donald trump as the next u.s. ambassador to israel. >> the president-elect himself said that he would consider that, he will do it, and we are very happy about it. >> what a pleasure to see you.
thank you for joining me. >> thank you very much. and breaking news right now, isis media arm is claiming responsibility for the truck attack in germany. this according to our flash-point partners. we'll talk to evan coleman of flashpoint in our next hour. but first, time for one last look at the results of the microsoft pulse question. we have been asking, after the christmas market terror attack in berlin, security has been beefed up across the united states and in europe. do you feel safe this holiday season? here's what it looks like right now, 55% of you say yes. 45% of you say no. we'll be right back. world ugly and messy. they are the natural born enemy of the way things are. yes, ideas are scary, and messy and fragile. but under the proper care, they become something beautiful.
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all right. that does it for this hour of msnbc live. i'm ali velishi in new york. kate snow is picking things up right now. nice to see you, i'm kate snow. here are the top three stories we are watching this hour. we are following breaking news on the deadly truck attack in berlin to leave 12 people dead, nearly 50 others wounded. we have just learned this afternoon that the federal prosecutor's office released a
man they had detained as a suspect saying there was not enough evidence to hold him. also, german authorities saying that the truck was intentionally directed into the crowd. an act of probable terrorism. we have an update on a new claim of responsibility for the attack as well in just a moment. we are also following the latest on the assassination of russia's ambassador to turkey during an art exhibition on monday. the team of investigators from moscow has arrived in turkey to investigate the shooting. russian president vladimir putin called the killing aprovocation aimed to disrupt turkey and russian relations. and two former state emergency managers along with two former flint executives are all charged with felonies. we'll get an update from the michigan congresswoman debbie dingle in the show. but we begin with so much to get to here and abroad with new details we are learning about the attack at