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>> all i'm asking him is to acknowledge that russia interfered and push back. it could be iran next time. it could be china. it was democrats today, it could be republicans in the next election. rising waters. the critical situation out west that could trigger historic flooding. plus the legacy of president obama and why he means so much to so many americans. >> i had the privilege of being there when he was inaugurated in 2008 and that in itself made me enthusiastic and made me excited about the future because at that point in time a lot of us were at the bottom. we begin this hour with politics. new reaction from president obama amid fallout over the intel report he ordered which revealed that russia interfered in the u.s. election. >> i think back to 2012 when mitt romney talked about russia being the number one g geostrategic threat you
dismissed him in the second debate. >> i did. >> did you underestimate vladimir put snin. >> i don't think i underestimated him, but i underestimated which this in this new information age it is possible for misinformation, for cyber hacking and so forth to have an impact on our open societies, our open systems to insinuate themselves into our democratic practices in ways that i think are accelerated. >> and here is senator lindsay graham during an interview with chuck todd around the same time the president-elect received his briefing on the russia report, it aired this morning. >> most republicans are condemning what russia did and to those who are gleeful about it, you're a political hack. you're not a republican. you're not a patriot. here's what i'm going to do with
senator mccain. we're going to introduce sanctions that are bipartisan, that go beyond the sanctions we have today against russia that will hit them in the financial sector and the energy sector where they're the weakest and we're going to give president trump an opportunity to make russia pay a price for interfering in our election so it will deter others in the future. >> and trump's top adviser kellyanne conway is weighing in on the president-elect's reluctance to accept the findings by the intelligence agencies. >> you say that the hacking had no impact on the election when mr. trump kept invoking wikileaks which was printing, publishing things that the russians had hacked. obviously, he thought it was going to have an effect on the election. >> well, it had an effect on his debate answer and it had an effect on the clinton campaign because it was quite embarrassing to watch her closest advisers question her judgment and there was an attempted hack on the rnc i'm
informed, but they had the sufficient cyber security firewalls in place. >> meanwhile, with just two days until the start of the senate confirmation hearings, new ethics concerns are looming over the trump transition team. a top ethics official confirming plans to confirm the cabinet choices before background checks are complete unprecedented and overwhelming government investigators. that was following an inquiry by democratic leaders who are trying to delay the hearings until all paperwork is completed. let's go to nbc's ron allen who is braving the elements in new york. he's outside trump tower. good morning to you. how is the trump team responding to the concerns and are we hearing from senators where the? >> reporter: of course, we're hearing from senators. they're never short on words and the trump transition team is basically saying that this is politics as usual and they're saying that this is why people elected donald trump, they're
dismissing it. they're saying that the ethics background checks are getting completed and that there's no reason to delay any of these confirmation hearings set to stop on tuesday, with jeff sessions, the nominee to be attorney general. >> here's mitch mcconnell earlier today. >> i think at least five of the nominees have all of their papers in. what this is about, john, the democrats are really frustrated that they lost the election. i was in senator schumer's position eight years ago. i know how it feels when you're coming into a new situation that the other guys won the election. what did we do? we confirmed seven cabinet appointments the day president obama was sworn in. we didn't like most of them either, but he won the election. >> we need sort of grow up here and get past that. >> reporter: so tuesday will be a big day when the hearings start and then on wednesday
there are more, five total, eight nominees all week and on wednesday we also have a press conference scheduled by president-elect trump that we think will happen some time during the day. perhaps here at trump tower no details released as of yet. bottom line, alex, it will be a dramatic week because the democrats will use these hearings to hold hearings on donald trump and many of the policies that he's taken over the years, everything from obamacare to immigration and russia and hacking. these will be televised veshgsents, brigh veshgs e events and bright lights and drama. a lot of the nominees are not known to the public and a lot of them are extremely wealthy. there are questions about finances and questions about ideology and all of it much live on television as the trump campaign, as the trump administration, i should say, moves into full gear. >> the sooner they get those questionnaires submitted the better. by the way, young man, where is your hat? it is 23 degrees out there.
honestly, ron allen, it is so cold! thanks for the live shot. >> reporter: you sound like my mom. thanks. >> i am a mom, what are you going to do? >> reporter: for more analysis let's bring in political reporter for "the new york times," and nick, good day to you, let's get started to your reaction and the president-elect and the team's reluctance to accept the findings of the intel report. what are you hearing on that? >> it's fascinating. what we're seeing and hearing here is the trump team and the president-elect himself has sort of personalized these findings. you saw the fbi stayed away from assessing the impact on the actual voting. that was a deliberate choice. first, it's hard to assess that, and it's a way of putting that question aside as legitimacy and focusing strictly on the operations of the russians and the hacking in the pre-election period. still, you see trump voters and trump himself have taken it very personally that the hacking or
the allegation of the hacking is an attack on him personally on his incoming presidency which is problematic for everybody, i think. >> yeah. i know that one of your colleagues spoke with trump supporters in indiana and their response to this is what's a big deal? it's a pass that they're willing to give the president-elect. >> i think it's really about how partisanship, partisan feelings and identity attached to donald trump personally have overwritten almost everything else. you saw one voter for trump in that same story that if that's what it took to beat hillary clinton so be it, he didn't care. the whole idea that there is a national interest beyond partisan interest is really fast disappearing, i think, and it's scary and problematic. again, if people feel more attached to one candidate than the principle and their country's integrity and foreign
interference that heralds a real change for our country. >> sure does. let's look as we head into the hearings today, particularly those nominees whose ties to russia are right now being scrutinized? >> i think democrats and gop senators will be looking really hard to firm up an answer from rex tillerson, and other potential nominees about how we're going to handle it and what the sanctions could be. we've seen the incoming administration waffle a bit on the question of further sanctions for russia and in fact, the president-elect and some of his supporters have said we should be closer to russia to attack islam or radical islam. so i think you'll see a pointed effort from mccain and graham, as well as democratic senators to try to pressure the incoming administration on sanctions and committing on some aspect of payback or retribution to show that this is a line in the sand that cannot be crossed in the future. >> i also want to look ahead to
tuesday. the president's farewell speech in chicago. what kind of message are you expecting to hear from him? >> his message has always been about hope and achievement and the ability to transcend, and he has stuck by that even in the face of this terrible defeat which in a lot of ways was a rejection of him and his party. i think what he has told his own staff, and what he's told the country and wants to conjure up in the speech is a sense that the nation can endure that we can work together that his own legacy will be lasting despite the poll by the incoming administration. >> that's always been his message and even in the wake of his election he was able to stick by in a lot of different ways and we'll see a variation of that and also we'll see a stage setting for his post-presidency. he'll be a young and vigorous post-president. he'll have a huge stage unlike any president before him. i think he'll give us clues
about how he intends to pursue that in the coming years. >> you have to wonder, what's the follow-up to this? thanks, nick. good to see you. let's go to the breaking news from overseas. four people are dead and 13 wounded in jerusalem after a truck barreled into a crowd of israeli soldiers. they were gathered next to a bus. the driver was shot ask killed at the lucy, what do we know about this? >> alex, it turns out this attack was captured on cctv security camera footage. the video shows busloads of young israeli soldiers gathering on this popular promenade on the city of in jerusalem and they were going to go on a cultural tour when you see a white truck ramming into the crowd, it doesn't stop and he lurches forward and he slams it into reverse and crushing more people in reverse before scaling to a halt. the palestinian from east jerusalem was shot dead and you
see the bullet holes in that video there. he killed at least four people and injured 17 others and all of them in their 20s. so a very young crowd. take a look at how this eyewitness described the terrifying moment. >> i'm just seeing a truck that went on the sidewalk -- sidewalk and hitting the soldiers and some soldiers started shooting on the chauffeur. it took them some time to kill them and we had time to make a reverse just to go back with his truck. >> that was one of the tour guides that was supposed to take the soldiers on the tour. we saw prime minister benjamin netanyahu on the scene just a few hours ago. he suggested without any evidence that the driver was a supporter of the islamic state and said that the attack was inspired by similar assaults in europe. palestinians without any known links to isis have certainly carried out vehicle attacks in the past, and we did see hamas,
the militant group that runs gaza praising the attacker, but stopping short of taking responsibility. obviously, israeli security forces will be looking into whether this was a copycat attack of what we saw most recently in berlin and nice. >> okay, lucy, i know we'll check in with you next on this developing story. thank you so much for that. meantime, terminal 2 is now open in the aftermath of the attack that killed five people. this new video shows is the baggage claim area where that shooting happened. it is not back to full operation yet. meantime, the suspect, 26-year-old esteban santiago is up against federal charges that could carry with them the death penalty. we're hearing from the gunman's brother and he is pointing the game at the fbi. nbc's gabe gutierrez is at the fort lauderdale airport. gabe, good day to you. let's talk about the brother and what he's saying. >> reporter: hi there, alex. good afternoon. yes. as you mentioned, the brother of esteban santiago, bryan santiago
is in puerto rico and he spoke with reporters, putting some of the blame, at least, at the u.s. government for letting his brother go despite knowing that he had mental issues as we have been reporting, alex. back in november esteban santiago went to the local fbi office in alaska, in anchorage, alaska and complained of mental issues and was sent to a mental health facility and complaining that the u.s. government was forcing him to watch isis videos and was controlling his mind. of course, the brother spoke in puerto rico. here's some of what he had to say. he says it was a call for help and that the system failed his brother. >> he go to the fbi saying that he is hearing voices and the cia are saying that he need to join isis, that the cia is fighting with fbi because they have a fight that nobody sees. i don't know if that's true, but that is what he's saying to me and then said to the fbi
offices. when -- when they heard that they sent him to the security hospital, you know? but only for four days. four days, you know what is four days? nobody changed his mind in four days, you know? >> reporter: the authorities confiscated esteban santiago's gun back in november and later returned it to him. alex, i can tell you that federal authorities believe that was the same gun used in the shooting on friday. although we should point out that authorities at that point had no legal basis to keep that gun or otherwise hold santiago, federal authorities say. he is now facing federal counts including committing act of violence at an airport as well as other weapons charges. he faces the death penalty if convicted and he's scheduled to face a federal magistrate at 11:00a.m. tomorrow morning. alex? >> this story will certainly be up for analysis for some time to come, thank you so much, gabe
gutierrez, from fort lauderdale. the russian being thhacking what some are saying is surprising about it. a house intelligence committee member weighs in with me next. s. mom: oh no... tech: this mom didn't have time to worry about a cracked windshield. so she scheduled at safelite.com and with safelite's exclusive "on my way text" she knew exactly when i'd be there, so she didn't miss a single shot. i replaced her windshield giving her more time for what matters most. tech: how'd ya do? player: we won! tech: nice! that's another safelite advantage. mom: thank you so much! (team sing) safelite repair, safelite replace.
any attempt, any aspiration to influence our elections failed. they were not successful in doing that, and it's a very important point. we're talking about this because we had embarrassing leaks from the dnc emailses. there were no fireworks in that report because there was no firewall at the dnc. >> incoming white house counselor and former trump campaign manager kellyanne conway this morning some 48 hours after getting the intelligence briefing on russian hacking and the president-elect and his team are reluctant to put full blame on the kremlin and it is not over.
congress set to hold more hearings this week on the cyber attack. with me now is congressman eric swawell joining me from a very cold and windy san francisco. thank you for being here. >> thanks for having me back, alex. >> sir, i understand you've been briefed on this classified report, do you agree with what kellyanne conway said there that there are no bombshells in this report? >> no. the report shows that our democracy was hacked in the past presidential election and it was offeredered by dictator vladimir putin and most important they intend to do it again and i propose to have an independent commission on how we're so vulnerable and protect us in the future. this is not seen as relitigating the election. donald trump won, but what we must do is secure our democracy. it's a democracy that so many men and women have fought for in our arms services and still are fighting for today and is worth defending. >> our national security team here at nbc news says that this report was one of the strongest,
one of the most detailed they'd ever seen, however, they also said they were surprised that it lacked evidence like examples of, say, communication intercepts. do you share that disappointment? >> i'm disappointed that more has not been declassified. i have seen the classified evidence. it's powerful. it's overwhelming and the arrows only point in one direction and that is toward russia and having an independent commission of bipartisan appointed experts can allow us to look at evidence any in an independent way release to the public what exactly happened. but again, this is more about going forward to make sure it doesn't happen again. >> so you've seen classified things and we haven't been privy to it at this point, but are you suggesting that there are more detailed facts within that report that -- you're saying irrefutably the finger is pointed in one direction and that's it. >> very persuasive, detailed fact, and i hope that we can declassify them. of course, there are a number of reasons that would suggest right now we want to keep those close
to the vest as we continue to investigate, but the american people deserve to know what happens, and right now i'm fearful that it's too easy to send this off to congressional committees and bury the findings and classified reports and the american people don't know what happens and we have the president-elect has seen the same evidence that i have seen and he's disa vowed the intelligence community and has chosen to side with russia and the only way to overcome that is for the american people to have an independent commission that tells them once and for all what happened in a declassified way. >> if you want to suggest that our president-elect is looking at big picture, he did tweet having a good relationship with russia is a good thing. not a bad thing. only stupid people or fools would think that it is bad. i think we can all agree that being allies is a good thing. >> it's disturbing that he was told on friday that russia was responsible for hacking our election and trying to influence the voters, and then the very
next day he wants to invite putin over for dinner and that is disturbing and we are less safe, and that plays out when it comes to national security here at home. if he's not believing in the intelligence presented to him, that makes us less safe everywhere, not just across the world. >> given the donald trump that we saw during the election and the one that we expect to see and the one that we see all of the time in tweets. would you expect him to react in any other way because the suggestion would be that if he said, wow, this whole report, it's all legit, it just undermines his mandate. >> i still believe in the dignity in the office of president, and it's time he starts acting like the frpresidt because he's about to be president for everyone and that is protecting our country from a threat. you side with america and not that country's dictator. >> what about the status of your bill to establish a commission to look further into this election with the 2016 election? >> we have over 180 co-sponsors
in congress. i'm continuing to reach out to republicans because i believe so many of my colleagues believe that we have to put our country ahead of party, and i'll get back to washington tomorrow and continue to build more of a coalition to investigate and tell the american people what we'll do to secure our democracy. >> safe travels as you fly back east. >> congressman eric swalwell from san francisco. thanks. the personal impact of president obama. next you will hear from americans who explain why his legacy is so important to them. from the first moment you met
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emerge into adulthood, here you are with the first black president, that legacy. >> i think especially for people like me and people that i know and especially around this area is that how many other black presidents have we missed or black doctors or all that kind of stuff. it gives you that inspiration that it doesn't have to necessarily be, you know, the president, but you're going to be the best representation of whatever it is that you think -- >> you represent the potential and possibilities of black excellence. >> i had the privilege of being there when he was inaugurated in 2008 and that in of itself it made he excited because at that point in time a lot of us were at the bottom. we were suffering financially and for myself, student loan debt was crazy and not being a able to afford those payments and being twice your mortgage and he came in and provided us with a plan, a detailed plan and
we were excited about that and did he actually do it? yes. >> how do you feel? when you think about barack obama's legacy, is it him? is it america? were we not ready for a black president? >> he came in to be the best president, and not standing for a group and standing for america and unite us all. >> when president obama ran in 2008 i had turned 18 and i was able to vote. so i was able to be involved and able to actually have an opinion, and i couldn't be more satisfied with my choice. i think any time there is a campaign or there is an election, it sort of brings to the surface some of those uncomfortable social norms that we've just sort of accepted in society. when president obama ran in 2008 he wasn't the one who brought his race into play. it was the media. it was society. >> that group also reflected on president obama's initial win in
2008. one person telling trumain that she'd grown up unsure whether she'd see an african-american president during her life time. you can watch president obama's farewell address live this tuesday and special coverage begins right here on msnbc. does the transportation safety administration have enough money and officers to keep you safe at airports right now? i'll ask a former administrator of the tsa.
welcome back, everyone. i'm alex witt here at msnbc world headquarters in new york at 33 past the hour. we're following breaking news from overseas. four people are dead, 13 wounded in jerusalem after a truck barreled into a crowd of israeli soldiers all gathering next to a bus. the driver was shot and killed at the scene. israel's prime minister says the attacker was a supporter of isis. and happening right now, water rescues are under way in sonoma county, california.
this is a major storm that has slammed into the west coast with torrential rains. officials are closing roads as water overtakes flooding levels in some areas. let's go out to nbc's steve patterson. he is in reno, nevada. welcome to you. what's the situation out there? >> reporter: alex, last we spoke i think it was about 9:30 eastern. it is now 12:30. the difference between now and then is i'd say we were on the very edge of it then. i'd say now we are really in it. the wind is just starting to pick up and the rain has been constant since this storm started. it's been falling now for hours. where are we in we're in reno, as you mentioned and we're near the truckee river. why are we here? think of the rain as the ammunition and think of this river as a loaded weapon. this is what city officials are worried about. this is what residents are worried about and this is what business owners are worried about not only in the city of reno, but in the areas that surround the sierra nevada.
it's the reason why roads will be closed and it's the reason why schools have been cancelled and it's a reason why there is a huge sandbag operation around this river. officials are worried about this thing swelling and raging as it is right now and then cresting above that flood level. that's something that's already predicted and already in the forecast. so there is a huge operation to either try to prevent happening in different areas that could really affect people or to try to prepare for it, and prepare for the worst. that's what a lot of people are doing right now. as you mentioned, water rescues are happening in parts of northern california. that's where it's going to hit really the hardest, this region and that region, rainfall totals 12, 13, 14, 15 inches that could really affect not only the commute, but also people's lively hood. this, the last time we had a storm like this ten years ago, 2005, $300 million worth of damage. it lifted homes off of their foundations, sent a river of
flooding downstream. so that's what people are worried about right now. this storm is starting right now and it's going to continue tonight and it's going to get worse, alex? >> it's a very sobering report you give us to, steven. three hours' difference, we can see and hear how much it's risen, that river, and you can definitely hear those waters. thank you very much for that update. appreciate that from reno. let's go to new developments of the deadly airport rampage in fort lauderdale. new footage shows terminal 2. the terminal is not yet back to full operation. the shooting is raising questions about airport security and currently, the transportation security administration better known as tsa is designed to secure passengers traveling in the air and not keep entire airports safe. joining me now, john holinski, former deputy administrator for the tsa. ? do you think more should be done at the federal level to try to
secure airport grounds including the parking and the drop-off area and pickup zones and baggage claim and is that possible? >> yes. thank you, alex. absolutely, it is possible, but i think what we'll have to do from a federal standpoint and then on the commercial side as well is take a step back and realize the threat has changed and the threat is no longer in the airplane as much because we've been able to mitigate that. the threat is in the airport. there are many things that have to be done and i think overall the aviation community and not just the tsa, but the faa and the aviation community has to start looking at this threat and how they're going to reduce this threat and there are many things that can be done through technology and there are changes physically to structures and procedures that could help this. deterrence is also a big factor and there will have to be legislative changes on authorities on who has what authority in the airports. >> john, i have to tell you, i'm a frequent flier and already
heading to the airports is a cumbersome tank and i don't think many people look forward to it, right? how would you go about convincing the airlines who would potentially lose money from people saying i just can't deal with it? do you think that would be an impediment to getting federal legislation passed? >> i think the airlines have recognized the threat and what it costs their business. starting with 9/11 and any time we've had an incident, a serious incident you'll see a drop in transportation or people who are hesitant to travel. i think the airlines would be onboard. i think the piece that is important is that you have to get the legislative folks to work with the aviation community and come up with the realization that there's got to be a different strategy now. we've spent a lot of money and a lot of people and technology to harden getting something on an airplane, but now the target has become the airport itself. so we have to look for innovative ways that you can still have commercial success,
but increase you are skooity. most airports themselves were never built with security in mind. they were built as a commercial vane you and to transport people. so what we really need to do so start including security more in the way we think about the design of airports and some of the procedures at airports. >> john, i'm curious how much information gets shared between u.s. intelligence agencies and the tsa because we know santiago talked to them back in november. we know he owned a gun and they put him into a mental health analysis for several days. is there anyone else who could have known about this? >> it's a good question. i will tell you that the tsa -- when i was there, for example, three times a day they're getting constant intelligence and briefs from the intelligence community. it becomes a little bit tricky. they have a watch list, and they have a no-fly list and a select e-list and those are known terrorists or associated with terrorists. it becomes more touchy, quite frankly, when you're talking
about individuals who have, let's say a low-level criminal history. quite frankly, i was surprised the fact that the individual had a gun having a prior domestic violence charge put against him. i do think there's more that can be done. what i see happening as a result of this is i think we'll reassess the transportation of weapons and ammunition, and i think there will be retraining of people both at the airlines as well as in the government and what kind of behaviors to look for and indicators that might be out there. >> john, what about the differing laws about guns from state to state. does that make it difficult for airport security? in this case, it's promoting hunting to out of state visitors. >> right. it absolutely does, and because it's a state issue and it becomes very difficult as is anything else when you're dealing with a federalized airport and a state issue. i think they'll be in reassessment of that and i can
see change being in there, and i think the people that take the change, first and foremosts and are it becomes a liability. they don't have to, if they don't want to, but i think you will see reassessment and change not just from the federal government, but from the airlines itself. >> good to talk and get your insights. i appreciate them. >> thank you very much. still ahead, the chances obamacare will be repealed and replaced at the same time and in the next hour, an intimate portrait of the mother and daughter debbie reynolds and carrie fisher and i'll get a look at their relationship. tech: at safelite, we know how busy your life can be.
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i'm fine with that. >> president obama on abc earlier this morning. democrats on capitol hill are preparing to battle this week on a number of fronts including obamacare. republicans in control vowing to repeal the law and signaling president-elect trump will take steps on day one to dismantle the affordable care act. elise jordan along with msnbc contributor howard dean of vermont. always good to see you both. let's get right into it here beginning with you, governor. the president sounding confident that his health care law will survive. how confident are you and why? >> i think a lot of it will more so than the radical right in the congress thinks right now. there are a number of senators, i think, including elise's former boss who are sort of waking up and seeing the coffee. they know they want to build a change and they're beginning to realize including tom who is one of the most conservative people
in the senate that if you take this bill and shut it down that you'll never get around to replacing it and that will be an electoral disaster for everybody, but especially for the republican party, so i have some hope that something sensible may come. i know that's not widely shared in washington, but i'm always the optimist. >> and we love that about you, i've got to say. elise, he mentioned your old boss, rand paul, that he and donald trump agree that you can't repeal obamacare unless you replace it the same day and here's what the senate majority leader said. >> you have to both repeal and replace and there ought not to be a great gap between the first step and the second. >> so he went on to confirm that the senate will take the first step toward repeal this week, so, leaelise, what are the chan that repeal and replace will happen the same day? >> i'd be shocked if republicans can come together on a comprehensive replacement for
obamacare just this week. this is an incredibly complex undertaking and republicans have been more focused on yelling and a lot of rhetoric about obamacare rather than advertising what their replacement would be. so while there are replacements floating around there's not a consensus decision. i think that's where the problem is going to be when it comes to republicans actually repealing obamacare. >> why do you think that is, though, elise? let's face it, they've been trying to repeal obamacare since day one and that was signed into legislation six years ago. that's a long time to come up with an alternative plan which they've not. >> i think it's symptomatic of the corrosive political climate that's overtaken the country where we get worked up about problems without putting forth solutions. he has proposed free market reforms for obamacare and reforms such as allowing insurance overstate lines and increasing health savings
accounts. so these are actual reforms that he's from posing and putting out there, and the republican party as a whole will have to come together and figure out what they want so that they aren't leaving 22 million americans without health care. >> let's move on to russia, governor, because as you know on twitter, we've heard from president-elect trump on rush a the apprentice, boeing. do you think there is a strategy behind all of these tweets that before we get to the specifics here, are we dismissing out of a stream of consciousness or impulsiveness? how do you interpret his twitter verse? >> i think the way i entinterpr is he's trying to divert attention from the mess he got himself into the day before. we're not going to know until after january 20th. i can't see a pattern in this other than give me attention and, you know, dispute the facts and change the subject.
and i sort of figure you're not going to know what this president is going to think until we see what happens after january 20th. >> and sort of related to that, there's another topic, elise, the british prime minister teresa may was asked today in an interview about the famous "access hollywood" tape and the comment about groping women and it's unacceptable and she said it's time to move on. i ask you, should we move on from those comments and the inflammatory comments that donald trump has made in the past to allow for the business of the administration to get under way? >> i personally feel that donald trump could have been more apologetic about the comments and downright inappropriate comments that he's made and he has shown repeatedly that he does want apologize so i think everyone has to deal with that,
and i think it would be much better for him if he's going to heal the country and move on, if he can actually do some outreach to groups that he's been so inflammatory about, but he probably isn't going to, so that said, i think that it's better to be clear eyed in ways going forward that we can work together and heal the country. >> i'll ask you the same question, on the things that donald trump has said, do we hold him accountable for them or do we say, look, we have to wipe the slate clean and move forward to get the business of running the country done. it's unprecedented. let's face that. >> look, my own view is if we could wipe the slate clean it would be great, but he has so deeply wounded a whole generation. the under-35 generation has been deeply scarred by donald trump because he stands for everything
they've learned is wrong. his intolerance and attacks on victims with disabilities and groups. they're not going to forget that ever. there is a deal to be had on health care in the senate and this houses -- i don't think paul ryan is a strong leader. i think the house will pass some radical piece of junk, but i do think between schumer, mcconnell and trump there could be a deal on healthcare that would make some sense. we'll see. i'm going to be optimistic. i think it will be very hard for the american people of the under-35 to forget what donald trump has said and done. >> all right. well, fortunately, we never forget what you guys say so it's always good to have you back. >> howard dean and -- >> i think howard dean is very right. with the under 35 crowd and it is a generational shift. >> i've got two kids and they like to quote things often to me at the dinner table and we'll leave it to that. >> thanks, guys. >> thank you. still ahead, the forecast as
happening now, flooding has begun in some areas along the west coast. that storm is expected to generate a number of mudslides and avalanches. officials in sonoma county, california, reporting multiple water rescues already and the east coast is also dealing with the aftermath of a deadly blast of winter snow, ice and sleet. officials have confirmed five deaths. joining me now meteorologist bonnie schneider. gee, bonnie, how is it looking out there? it looks like we're getting hit on all sides. >> on the east coast it's looking better than yesterday. you saw the pictures of plymouth, mass, they had 19 inches of snow. east bridgewater, massachusetts, we also saw record-breaking snow into richmond and providence. notice behind the system, much colder temperatures and even though where you didn't get a
slot of snow in atlanta, you have icy conditions. be careful driving out there. this is what's happening right now in the san francisco bay area. plenty of heavy rain. it's been raining there since late last night and we expect more of it and in sonoma county, in particular, we had a flash flood warning and i've been reading reports and not only do we have thunderstorm wind damage with trees down in san francisco and some of the roads are closed due to flooding, and what's happening now and we've heard of the water rescues and it's ramping up. we have this huge area of tropical moisture coming in and it's a plume of moisture known as an atmospheric river and that's coming straight it from the pacific and nothing to obscure it from northern california and downward to the south and we'll see some of the rain come through southern california and some of the heaviest through the central coast and keep in mind, this is a warm system and it's coming over the higher, strong snow packs we already have and that
is going to cause melting. so the flood threat will persist well into next week. we already have a snow pack of eight feet and you put water on top of that and that will melt with the flash flooding that's happening in sonoma, you can imagine that will only get worse. watch out for ice, though, it's a different situation in oregon. freezing rain happening right now. plenty of reports there and salem and it's through the columbia gorge that we're expecting and a half amount of ice. once you start getting a half an inch of ice and that's where they can become rooted and heavy and we can see power outages. rough weather ahead for much of the west going forward, we will see it into next week. >> thanks for the head's up on that, bonnie schneider. at the top of the hour, we have breaking news. new information and pictures of the truck being used as a weapon and the soldiers this time are the target.