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we will find out just how much of the administration he wants to put together will actually be in place as he becomes president. democrats, republicans, on maybe a collision course on capitol hill right now. also on the agenda, the conflict. donald trump's son-in-law jared kushner now expected to be named a senior advisor to the incoming president. kushner has the potential conflicts of his own that could cause trouble. >> i'd love to help jared helping us on deals with other nations and see if we can do peace in the middle east and other things. he's very talented. he's a very talented guy. >> that name, jared kushner, not one that was known by many people that long ago. now set to be one of the most powerful people in this country. an author that went deep inside trump world, his relationship with his father-in-law is going to join us in just a few
minutes. and also caught in the cross fire. police officer shot and killed in orlando. another killed in a crash, manhunt under way for a suspect who is still on the loose. >> we're not going anywhere. if we don't have this individual by night fall, we're not going anywhere. we're going to stay at it until we find him. >> schools on lockdown in that area. federal state authorities now searching for a man they warn is armed and dangerous. all of the latest from florida, just ahead. we begin though with our top story, back to the world of politics. it is indeed a busy week because getting ready to unfold on capitol hill. nine of donald trump's cabinet selections, they are set to begin their confirmation hearings over the next three days. these cabinet pick and trump's transition team have been sequestered in d.c. over the past few days. they are preparing for what they expect to be potentially contentious confirmation hearings. first on the docket, tomorrow,
donald trump's pick for attorney general, jeff sessions. now 30d years ago, jeff sessions appeared before the senate judiciary committee. he was rejected by that committee for a federal judgeship. now he will take another shot of it in front of that same committee. this time for attorney general, that begins tomorrow. donald trump was asked about how he feels about his cabinet's chances of clearing the confirmation process earlier today. >> confirmation hearings coming up. >> they're going great. confirmations going great. >> i think they'll all pass. i think every nomination will be -- they're all at the highest level. jack was even saying -- they are the absolute highest level. >> jeff sessions in particular? >> i think he's going to do great. high quality man. >> that is the prediction from the president-elect, what about the opposite party. chuck schumer, the democratic leader in the senate just in the last hour. he went to the senate floor.
he refused his counterpart mitch mcconnell of hypocrisy. >> what had been standard process for the vast majority of nominees, the completion of a preliminary ethics review before their nomination was skipped over for the vast majority of president-elect trump's nominees. the very same majority leader, my friend, senator mcconnell, who suggested that democrats were raising concerns out of pique or resentment in fact raised the same concerns in 2009 when he was minority leader. >> that is the latest on the confirmation front. other big news though, breaking this afternoon in this presidential transition, nbc news now confirming with the top transition trump transition source that jared kushner, the son-in-law of donald trump will become a senior advisor in the trump white house. the washington post also reporting right now that kushner
is going to be on capitol hill this evening where he will be meeting with the house speaker. paul ryan. nbc's kelly o'donnell is on capitol hill. so kelly, there was a flurry of speculation the last 24 hours that this is what we were building towards. jared kushner of course, he has that family real estate business that he might be reporting he'd be giving up his role in that. the immediate questions this raises though, how will he address potential conflicts of interest, are there any concerns with nepotism law kpups the fact that he's in the son-in-law? and now according to to the "washington post." already meeting with paul ryan, a sign of the status he's going to have in trump's world, apparently. >> it'll be hard to capture how much weight jared kushner has inside donald trump's inner circle because we've seen over time that he was often the silent, at least to the public, or the unseen, to the public, hand guiding a lot of what was going on. in effect, running the campaign. even though there would be someone with a campaign manager
title. he was responsible for some of the shake-ups of staff along the way. central in the vp selection process. and now will be working with his father-in-law, in the west wing. now you point out the nepotism law. there is a law on the books that precludes any family member and sons-in-law included in that definition from having a job in a agency. the west wing may be a gray area where in the president's inner circle, he would be able to select advisors who would not be subject to this same law. it's untested in this way. this came out of course after robert f. kennedy was selected to lead the justice department in his brother's administration. and so they wanted to try to make a formal message to family members and office holdings that this kind of hiring is not permitted under law. is this an area where they can do it because it is not a job in another department. that seems to be the argument
they will make. questions remain, his father-in-law, the president-elect is not going to take a government salary as senior advisor to the president. he would certainly be eligible for a government salary, jared kushner, if he chooses. he'll have office space, that kind of thing. he will also have a very pride portfolio. he is very trusted in the inner circle and also trusted by steve bannon who will have a similar title by reince priebus who will be chief of staff, kellyanne conway who's worked with him during the campaign season. so the imprint of jared kushner on the trump administration will be very large, even if it is hard to see exactly where the fingerprints may be. coming to meet with top officials, that's no surprise when his father-in-law came to washington to meet with president obama, it was kushner who was in the rose guard within dennis mcdonough, the current chief of staff to president obama. he's been involved in this all along. some in the inner circle say he
has been a guiding hand. that trump trusts. and the question will be, can he present any conflicts with his own family empire? will there be any tensions because family relations are not quite the same as staff relations. does the president-elect need a bit more distance? apparently he does not think so. so it'll be interesting to see how this plays out. no confirmation is required for this sort of position, steve. >> all right. kelly o'donnell with the latest on capitol hill. kelly, thanks. as we mention, look, we are less than two weeks away now by the end of the next week, donald trump will be sworn in as president, this week though, a barrage of activity in washington, in politics. they will have a lot to say about what this administration looks like. and maybe what the tone of politics is going to be like as donald trump takes over. let's take you through what we can expect. and again, what's going to be have very busy week. it's going to start tomorrow. tuesday, barack obama, he is
giving a farewell address as president. he's going to be out in chicago. his hometown where he launched his career. this is a much anticipated speech in chicago. people already lining up for a chance to see it. this is a much anticipated speechb across the country. not every president does this at the end of his presidency, but barack obama has chosen to do it. and obviously one of the things everybody's going to be looking for in this speech, what kind of message does he choose to deliver, vailed, maybe snot vailed at donald trump, at his successor. that's tomorrow in chicago. but while that's happening tomorrow in chicago, we mention this, on capitol hill, in washington, d.c., it begins. the confirmation hearings. now look, on paper, republicans have the votes. they control the senate, they have a majority, if they all stick together, they can confirm every single one of donald trump's picks. that does not necessarily mean this is going to be a smooth process. look no further right there, than jeff sessions. the senator from alabama.
we mentioned it. 30 years ago, this same committee, this senate judiciary committee, he went before them, it was nominated far federal judgeship, the committee said no. there were accusations of racial incensivity, you can expect those will be brought back in a big way at these hearings also. you have civil rights groups now. right now, saying sessions is not fully committed to the voting rights act. maybe he still has the votes to be confirmed. this one could be explosive. that is tuesday. how about wednesday? later in the week. we say barack obama gives his speech in chicago, donald trump then on wednesday the next day, his press conference, of course, the headline we're expecting him to address here, the question of conflicts of interest. his business holdings, how will he handle him as president. that's certainly expected and that speech in chicago. if there are messages there to donald trump. certainly you can expect donald trump to be responding on wednesday. if he doesn't do it on twitter beforehand. and again, while donald trump is doing that, the confirmation
process will continue. other nominees stoet go before committees on wednesday, you can circle rex tillerson, the nominee for secretary of state. think of all the attention to the question of russia, role in the election, sanctions announced by the obama administration to the concerns of some republicans, like john mccain, like lindsey graham, that donald trump is not taking this seriously enough. if there is a trump appointee who's going to face the brunt of that at one of these committee hearings, probably going to be rex tillerson. exxon mobil, all the ties to russia, all the business connections there. if republicans to want make a statement to donald trump about how serious they think he should be taking russia, look for them to do it in this hearing. that's wednesday, shift over to thursday, more hearings. again, you see three other names. wilbur ross for commerce. here's an example, democrats saying that the trump appointees so far have not been forthcoming enough when it comes to financial disclosure.
personal disclosure, filling out ethics requirements. that's the kind of hearing where that issue might be raised as well. so a very, very busy week in politics. really, set to kick off tomorrow. we're in sort of the preview stage right now, but by the end of the week, pretty good sense of where the tone is as that trump administration prepares to kick off. and joining me now, msnbc contributors hugh hooutd, the host of the hugh hewitt show, e.j.d columnist at the washington post and co-ed tofrt change we seek. collection of president obama's speeches. thank you both for joining us. i want to start talking about this question of battles shaping up here. democrats calling for a pause saying hey look, when it comes to financial disclosures. when it comes to ethics rierm requirements, they have not put in all of the disclosures necessary. here's what mitch mcconnell had to say about that first
yesterday. >> we confirmed seven cabinet appointments the day president obama was sworn in. we didn't like most of them either. but he won the election. so all of these little procedural complaints are related to their frustration. and having not only lost the white house, but having lost the senate. i understand that, but we need to sort of grow up here and get past that. we need to have the president's national security team in place on day one. and papers are still coming in. >> so that's mitch mcconnell yesterday, now just in the last couple hours, chuck schumer his democratic counterpart sent a letter to mitch mcconnell. it's the same letter you can see here. this is a letter that mitch mcconnell wrote eight years ago when barack obama was becoming president, and you have here, mitch mcconnell as the republican leader in the senate back then saying, we expect the following standards will be met for all of obama's nominees
before there's any action on confirmation. some of those standards include clearance by the office of government ethics. that has been standard protocol in the past, that is something democrats are saying hey, you don't have the nominee. clearance from the office of ethics yet until you have that, we can't have action here. hugh hewitt, let me start with you. chuck schumer says this is hypocrisy from mitch mcconnell, does he have a point? >> i'm suffering from a mooerl streep last night, laryngitis, it only takes 51 ones. and we have the working on our side. and so maybe i'll throw it over to e.j. while i take coffee. all will get confirmed. every single one. >> we are going to give you hazard pay for doing this segment today, hugh hewitt. you work on coming up with some water there or something, hot tea maybe. let me bring e.j. into this. e.j. hugh says look, bottom line, the numbers are the numbers, the republicans have the votes they need to confirm who they want.
you did have democrats change those filibuster rules a few years ago. you can't filibuster a nominee for the cabinet anymore. democrats don't like this, they do anything about it? >> well, first of all, before -- get well, hugh, i feel for you. i've been there. you know, the issue here is that, yes, obama's nominees got confirmed. a, a lot were vetted, a lot of them like hillary clinton had been extensively vetted because she ran for public office. the same was true with kathleen. mitch mcconnell's letter from eight years ago ought to apply today that all of these officials ought to go through a process where the office of government ethics can vet them to make sure there aren't problems that they don't run into later on. and it was really significant that walter, the director of the office of government ethics wrote a very strong letter on this and his last sentence was
pretty powerful. he said for as long as i remain director, oge's staff and agency ethics officials will not succumb to pressure to cut corners and ignore conflicts of interest. we went through a campaign where they made it one of the center pieces of that their campaign. are we now supposed to say none of these issues matter anymore because we're talking about donald trump's nominees for the cabinet? they may well go through on a vote, but they ought to be vetted. people who work for the government ought to be vetted. >> i also want to bring up the question of russia here. obviously some of this might have been got lost a bit over the weekend. we had the ft. lauderdale tragedy on friday, then the weekend was here, but you had the intelligence report at least the public version that came out friday afternoon saying hey look, you know, russia from putin on down was interested in trying to harm politically hillary clinton in the election. you had the response from donald trump over the weekend, which was to say hey, he met with the
intelligence community. he said it was a very good meeting, but he did then spend most of the weekend basically making the point that hey, democrats made themselves vulnerable to hacking. you also had this response from president obama. let me play that. >> our intelligence communities spend a lot of time and effort gathering a lot of strands and a lot of data. there are times where they're very cautious and they say, we think this is what happened, but we're not certain. >> saying high confidence here. >> this time they've got high confidence. and having seen some of the underlying sources and information that they're basing this on, i stand fully behind that -- >> hugh hewitt, i will test your vocal cords again here, but i'm curious what you make of how donald trump is handing this. because i think to the casual observer, what bothers him most
about this story is the possibility it raises that russia had something to do with his victory in the election. >> i think that's clearly what bothers him, steve. what clearly bothers him, senator murphy on my show today from connecticut, and he made the point that the rule applies as to every single nominee. the only thing that can stop someone is a substantive issue. they're going to talk to tillerson about a deal he did over oil. i believe that at the end of the day, the russia issue will be brought up repeatedly in the course of the hearing with tillerson. and he'll say the same thing that every other nominee will say, we believe the russians attempt toind fluns the election. it did not have a dispositive of course the on the election and ought not have anything to do with the national team going forward in place. i think e.j. would agree with me on this. there will be a full and fair discussion on every nominee, but the russia issue is not going to
slow down jim mattis, john kelly, dan coates. and so at end of the day, all of that is offsubject. what matters is the new team is here and it's going to be confirmed and hopefully by the time next week rolls around, i'll have a voice back and we'll have a complete cabinet. >> that is tough for a radio host. we wish you a speedy recovery. e.j., rex tillerson, the question of russia, at least the possibility when it comes to his confirmation that exists. republican like john mccain, republican like lindsey graham, who has a very hawkish view when it comes to putin and russia, maybe they would see this confirmation battle as a way to make a point about that to donald trump about making thinking he's not taking this seriously enough. do you see any trouble for tillerson? do you see any trouble bottom line for being confirmed on these nominees? >> i think sessions is going to run into a real buzz saw. he's got the advantage of being a sitting senator, senators
usually soft on other senators, but i think the civil rights opposition there is very serious. but i hate to disagree with someone who's losing their voice, but i think you're right, steve, that tillerson is going to come -- going to face a lot of questions about his relationship with russia and you're right to point to lindsey graham and john mccain as central to that. what i cannot, for the life of me understand, is why donald trump finds it so hard to say a single, critical word about vladimir putin. he absolutely denied that the wikileaks business had any effect on the election, when he quoted wikileaks -- i've seen the story over 100 times in the closing weeks of the election. we don't know exactly what effect it had, of course not, but the notion that the russians were trying to influence the outcome and they favored donald trump. i think that cia report is very persuasive on that.
and i just don't understand why trump finds it so difficult to say, yes, there's an issue here. and we'll deal with it. no, he has to keep defending putin. i can't believe that that makes you hugh hewitt all that comfortable. >> all right e.j. and hugh hewitt, thanks for doing the show under the weather. we owe you one for that. >> good luck. >> my pleasure, my pleasure. all right. quick note here, big night ahead, little more than 90 minutes from now, it is the debut of ""for the record" with greta van u.s. is tren. her first guest tonight, senator john mccain. that's only here on msnbc at 6:00. you're not going to to want miss it. breaking news from florida. manhunt still under way at this hour for a murder suspect. two officers have been killed. authorities have just given an update on that search. plus that 200 miles south, the suspect accused of opening fire inside the ft. lauderdale airport on friday, now making
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all right now to florida. a massive manhunt under way as we speak for the man suspected of killing an orlando police officer. police say debora clayton was shot and killed as she tried to arrest march keith lloyd. he's accused of killing his pregnant girlfriend last month. several schools were locked down while police searched for the gunman and hours later, authorities say that a sheriff's
deputy assisting in the manhunt was killed in a motorcycle crash. cal perry joins me with more. cal, tragic story here, but so you have a sheriff's deputy was killed in pursuit of this suspect, is that right? and do they know how -- how specific is their sense of where he is? >> reporter: that sheriff's deputy was responding to the call made by debora clayton. she was shot and killed by the suspect. a call went out for all units to respond. he was responding to that when he was hit by another vehicle in an intersection. so while pursuing this fugitive, he was killed tragically. so two police officers killed in the past sort of eight hours as we've seen this search sort of widen. it's widened across the western part of the city as you mentioned, a number of schools were in lockdown, but that lockdown has since been lifted. those kids have been able to get home. that was a major concern for
officials. now the search is for markeith lloyd, he shot and killed allegedly his ex-girlfriend 24 years old. she was pregnant when she was shot and killed on december 13th. ever since then, he has been on the run from authorities. the search now including the fbi, the atf, and the u.s. marshals. steve, the local police believe that somebody is helping him as he continues to elude authorities. >> yeah, and cal, so they were hot on his tail and then there was that tragic accident. do they have a sense that he's confined at least to a narrow area here. or is he just completely giving them the slip? >> they hope he's confined to the brookside apartments which is in western orlando as i mentioned. police putting out on twirtd just a short time ago. they want the local media -- and this is tape aerials of that neighborhood, they want the local media to avoid broadcasting live from the neighborhood. they're worried he could be watching the tv and that a local news broadcast could gave away some of their movements. >> interesting. cal perry keeping us posted.
thanks, cal. now meanwhile further south in florida, down in ft. lauderdale, the iraq war veteran accused of opening fire in a crowded airport terminal last week today has made his first appearance in court. 26-year-old esteban santoniago faces a host of charges in connection with a shooting that left five people dead friday. santiago has been in custody since that shooting at the ft. lauderdale hollywood international airport. gabe gutierrez joins us now with more. what's going on inside that building? >> reporter: good afternoon, esteban santiago is being held without bail. as you mentioned, he had the charged read allowed by the judge for the first time. faces one charge of committing an act of violence inside an international airport as well as two weapons kmarges. and if convicted, he could face the death penalty. now today in court, short court hearing about 15 minutes or so. esteban santiago was shackled. his hands tied at his waist.
he was in a red prison jump suit. and he said very little. he said in it in a clear voice, responding to the questions about his ability to pay for an attorney. he had very little money in the bank and a public defender was appointed. now the next step in the case is for a grand jury potentially to hand down an indictment that could happen in a couple of weeks or so and one would expect the public defender to ask for a mental competency hearing because of the comments made by his family. he had mental issues leading up. now in the video that came out just yesterday. we see the disturbing image of that gunman going through the terminal walking very calmly. and witnesses say it was just a horrific scene. now steve, i want to wrap up here by saying, that there are still several people in the hospital. five people were still at broward health medical center. four of them are gunshot victims and we are learning adjust bit more information about this family from ohio. timmons family.
they were about to celebrate their 51st wedding anniversary and they were just preparing to head on a cruise. she was killed in this attack. husband, steve, is in critical condition at this point. steve. >> all right gabe gutierrez down there in ft. lauderdale, thanks for that. still ahead, donald trump praising ford and fiat in their plans to build more cars in the united states. but is the president-elect responsible for the newly announced investments? we are live out at the detroit auto show. he actually talked about the big announcement with the ceo of ford. what he is saying about their surprise plans. that's next. plus as jared kushner is now poised to join his father-in-law in the white house, more questions being raised about his business ties and potential conflicts of interest. coming up i want to talk to the author of a new cover store in new york magazine. deep dive into trump world. and where exactly jared kushner fits in it. that's ahead, stay with us.
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all right. time now for a check of the headlines at half hour. senior trump transition official confirming to nbc news that donald trump will appoint his son-in-law, jared kushner, to be a senior advisor in the white house. the 35-year-old real estate developer was a key figure in trump's presidential campaign. however the move could violate at least some critics claim a law barring official frls appointing relatives to government positions. russia meanwhile dismissing a u.s. government report that accuses moscow of interfering in the presidential election last year. report coming out on friday, it accuses russia of hacking into the e-mails of democratic party officials in order to help donald trump win the election. it also directly links russian president vladimir putin to the cyber intrusions. trump predicting today that all of his cabinet picks are going to be confirmed by the senate. the senate scheduled to hold
confirmation hearings this week for eight of trump's cabinet selections. coming as democrats in the senate plan what they are calling a talk-a-thon tonight where they will protest republican plans to repeal the affordable care act. also known as obamacare. in south carolina, meanwhile, a federal judge could begin deciding tomorrow whether charleston church shooter dylan roof will face the death penalty. roof rested his defense today without calling any witnesses or presenting any evidence to suede the jury. this is the same jury that convicted him last month of federal hate crimes in other charges in connection with the deaths of nine people at a black church in june of 2015. heavy rain and melting snow are leading to flooding in other major problems in california and nevada today. the storms are also causing rivers to rise. flooding roads and knocking down trees and damaging homes. forecasters say more rain is expected in the days ahead. and turning back now to
politics. donald trump's celebrating job creation today. praising fiat chrysler and ford for adding jobs in the u.s. instead of investing in overseas operations. trump taking to twitter this morning to say quote, it's finally happening. fiat chrysler just announced plans to invest $1 billion in michigan and ohio plants add 2g,000 jobs. this after ford said they will expand in michigan and the u.s. instead of building a billion dollar plant in mexico. thank you ford and fiat chrysler. that from the twitter there. now both have claimed their divisions were not related to trump's policies that these moves follow weeks of statements by the president-elect threatening financial penalties against companies planning to move jobs overseas. so can donald trump take credit for the thousands of jobs added since election day by companies like ford, fiat chrysler and carrier back in november? we are at the detroit auto show with more, wow, look at that,
inside a spify new vehicle there. i'm sure there's all sorts of fine print here. all sorts of details, bottom line, donald trump's been using the bully pulpit of twitter saying to companies, this is what you need to do. looks like, at least on the surface, that's happening. how much credit can he claim here? >> well, i'll tell you, donald trump can't claim credit for the fact that i'm at the detroit auto show because it's more about politics than it is about cars. i am by the way in the brand new f-150. this has been the biggest selling car sort of forever for ford. ford made two new announcements today. it's coming up with two vehicles that you will remember. one was the ford ranger, hasn't been made since 2011. it's a smaller vehicle, and the bronco. you remember that. so again, this is the second time in ten days i've talked to the ceo of ford. i was trying to get to the bottom of who's calling who? who's making the decisions. what comes first, the chicken or the egg when it comes to him and the donald trump and the
decisions they're making. here's what mark fields told me. >> we have ongoing conversations with the transition team and we've had a chance to talk with president-elect trump, we've had a chance to talk to vice president-elect pence, and listen, i don't think it's a bad thing. i think it's a good thing that the administration and the president-elect are talking about vibrant u.s. economy. i think we all share that. and as we make decisions, like the investment announcements we made last week here in michigan. we look at a lot of different factors and one of the factors we look at is the manufacturing and business environment. and we think that's going to be more favorable. >> now steve, there was also a decision announced by fiat chrysler to bring back the old jeep wagneer. it was the first luxurious four by four, i just happen to be wanting to sit next to a cool car. phil lebow talked to jim lents. herself the ceo of toyota and
say again, what do you think of the border attack. donald trump tweeted, make your cars if in the united states or pay big border tax. here's what the head of toyota said to phil lebow. >> these decisions, this decision to go into mexico, it's probably about six years to the point where we broke ground. to make those kind of changes to disrupt the manufacturing flow to disrupt the flow of our suppliers. actually cost jobs most definitely. >> i've talked to the ceo of ford, nooe is a. i talked to one of the bosses of toyota, no one as clear as the fact if you impose this tax which by the way is not legal under nafta. if you change nafta to do that.
it'll cost workers jobs. trying to t to the bottom of it. i may have to hang out far couple more days, steve. >> one quick question now. i don't know about cars, but did you just get out of that delorian? >> no, it looks like one, doesn't it? this is actually a ford. but the gull wing idea is reminiscent of this. these are beautiful, beautiful cars. i certainly drew the short straw with this assignment, steve. >> yeah, half of what i learned about car was back to the future, the other half was like dukes of hazard. that's my automobile announcement. >> that's all you need. >> good report. we appreciate it, have fun at the auto show out there. meanwhile again, it's big news this hour, this week, donald trump's son-in-law, jaifrd kushner, he of course was at the center of trump's inner circle throughout the campaign, now he is going to be taking an official role as a senior advisor in the white house. nbc news confirming that this afternoon. this despite recent reports on kushner's controversial business ties to china. this week's issue of new york
magazine profiles the man now poised to be one of washington's most influential people in his unconventional path to power. andrew rice, authored the cover story about jared kushner and he joins us now. so he's going to be senior advisor in the white house. what in trump's universe, how would you describe jared kushner's role? i've heard some people say, when trump has a decision to make, thrz the last guy he talks to. the last sounding board. is that accurate? is that fair? >> yeah, he's the last voice in trump's ear. he's sort of -- his role is really quite unprecedented. i was sort of -- when i was talking with people who were advisors to the transition, they summed it up as son-in-law without portfolio. he has influence over politics, he had a lot to do with managing the campaign. influence over personnel. he's had a lot to do with who's been hired in the transition. and he's even ventured into foreign policy. he's sort of the point person on
the israel relationship for the trump administration. and i think, you know, it seems as if he ventures into anything he wants to. >> he's also -- he's lived in two very different worlds and you write about this here, and the people -- people in the world he's been living in, sort of the elites of new york city, you know, moneyed people, socially liberal, these are not people by and large who voted for donald trump. you write here, some had taken comfort in the idea that jared kushner was around donald trump. many were hoping perhaps desperately that trump a formerly unthinkable president might at heart be a pragmatic deal maker. >> if that were true, maybe he could be moved by the quiet advice and maybe all of his max mall stances. bring on the nuclear arms race. were negotiable. jared kushner has that role. the last guy donald trump talks to. what does he use that role to accomplish? does he use it to moderate donald trump? >> i think it remains to be seen for sure. but i think that, you know, any idea that he's going to be sort
of an ideological moderating force is unfounded. ultimately, his primary value is loyalty and family loyalty. he's really there to make things work for donald trump and make things happen that donald trump wants to see happen. and if those things happen to be traditionally progressive things, like on infrastructure. the tril dollar froour program. this campaign has been a journey of rediscovery for jared kushner. he was in this new york world, new york city site life and he went out to what, red state america, trump country, and he came back with a very different attitude towards new york city. >> yeah. i mean i think he saw -- i think he says that what he called a bubble in new york.
and when he went out, into ohio or florida or north carolina, he was exposed to a different side of america that he didn't really know existed. a lot of americans bont surprised to know that this side of america exists. you know, he was born a very wealthy person and suburban new jersey and lived most of his life in manhattan. so i don't think he had a great deal of exposure to the broader economic concerns that many americans have. >> all right. andrew rice, cover story, new york magazine this week. all about jared kushner, perfect timing, did you know this was coming? you got the news today and you got your cover story. >> >> check it out, if you're curious about the guy who has donald trump's ear when he has to make a decision. thanks fortune joining us. going to squeeze a quick break in from politics we are going to turn to sports. obviously this was a big weekend for football fans. wild card weekend in the nfl. it's only going to get bigger next weekend. we are going to use this though
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nfl wild card game. it sets up a match-up for the new england patriots and also sets up today's most important number of the day, 16. so how about this. why are we highlighting this? this is historic. this is the match-up. the texans won on saturday. this coming saturday. it'll be new england, chilly foxboro. they have the better record, they've won all those super bowls. they are expected to win this game. that is our most important number of the day. 16. now if you don't now how this all works. it's basically this. everybody who's betting on these games practically in las vegas or maybe in some of those illegal sports books that have been known to pop up around the country. they expect the patriots are going to win. if you want to bet on the game, you can't bet that the patriots win and the texans lose. you have to take the points spread. expected the patriots to win this game by 16.
if you bet on it, take the patriots, they have to win by more than 16 points. if you take the texans, they could lose the game by 15 points and you'd still win your bet. you do not see lines. the betting lines like this every day like this. in fact if you go back through history. these are the biggest you've seen in nfl history. 1968, super bowl iii, 18-point line. that was one of the biggest upsets in nfl history. broadway, joe namath, guaranteed a victory in the super bowl. they beat the colts, but you can see, every other time that the spread has been this nigh a playoff game, the team that's favored to win, look at this, the other three times, it has won by bigger than the spread. so, you don't have to call one of those one 900 numbers. look at this. you could just look at the history. if the history tells you anything, that's 16-point spread as giant as it is, patriots should cover it. it's our most important number of the day today. don't tell the nfl we did it.
it is 16, going to squeeze a quick break in here. when we come back, return to politics just ten days left in the obama administration. new poll shows nearly 60% of americans view the outgoing president favorable. only about a third believe he made good on his campaign promises. coming up, live to the white house with a look at his legacy through the eyes thof ez closest to him these last eight years. [ crowd noise ] whoa. [ gears stopping ] when your pain reliever stops working, your whole day stops. try this. but just one aleve has the strength to stop pain for 12 hours. tylenol and advil can quit after 6. so live your whole day, not part... with 12 hour aleve. i discovered a woman my family tree, named marianne gaspard.
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obama will be a private citizen, but he is still president until then. and tomorrow, giving his final major presidential speech. chris jan sing has been talking to some of the president's top staffers. she's live at the white house. so chris, what are they saying in these final days? >> you know, it's starting to just hit them. and i think tomorrow is going to be a seminal moment, so many of his top staff, current and former are going to be there in chicago for his farewell address. including josh ernest, the president's press secretary. the man who speaks for the president of the united states and earlier today, we were reminiscing about both of our first day on the job days on the job to two and a half years ago. take a listen. >> i don't think i've actually ever stood up here. and i say desiree, what is it like, and what do you worry about most? there's any chair right there. it has the green cord in it. >> yes, it does. >> what's it like to speak for the leader of the free world?
>> the first time i walked and stepped up to this poed dwroum answer questions from the reporters. i was taken aback at how close they were sitting to me. that even though we're elevated what, four inches off the ground and i have this podium separating me and them. it felt like the the first time that there was a wall of people, just inches away from me who were scrutinizing my every word and every movement. so, that was the first thing that i was surprised by the first time they came out here. the thing that i am most focussed on and the thing i think is most important. essentially two things, making sure that what i'm saying is accurate. it stands up to scrutiny. rooted in the facts. that is the thing that i hold myself to a high standard to. i know it's something that the reporters who cover me every day hold me to a high stand. and they should. the other thing is i want to come to the briefing prepared to gave people an authentic view of what the president thinks.
i want to understand what the president's approach is to a wide range of problems so i can help you get inside his head. >> reporter: tough to do right now, he is working on the spoech. he is not in the oval. i think he's back in the private residence. i just spoke to the president's chief speech writer and steve, they expect him to be working on this very important speech into the wee hours of morning. >> all right. for the last time. chris jansing at the white house, thank you. that is going to do it for this hour. i'm steve kornacki, remember, coming up, you see it in the lower right hand corner, your full screen, in less than an hour, the world premier of "for the record," 6:00 eastern right here on msnbc, but right now, mtp daily starts now. if it's monday from transition to confirmations. things are heating up this week. >> confirmations going great. >> tonight it's confirmation crunch time. a packed schedule on the hill with just 11 days until