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in the next 72 hours or so to pick up dwight eisenhower. i'm warning you wax ike does not count as a passenger for the car pool lane even though you will be tempted. we will keep you updated on the transport of eisenhower. it is the best new thing in the world. susan, tell me if i bring him near our home it's over. he will be coming to the office. we got ike. that does it for us. we will see you tomorrow. now it is time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." good evening, lawrence. >> sounds like you have a new cohost for 2017, a two shot of you and ike. >> i'm just hoping that -- i don't think we get the chair he comes in. i think we will have to get a proper chair fitted to him and why not be a studio chair. he could be here if i need to step out for some reason. >> why not? we're ready. thank you, rachel.
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we don't know exactly what dr. king would have said about donald trump, but it probably would have sounded a lot like something he said about another republican. >> trump battling john lewis after he questioned his legitimacy of his presidency. >> we welcome calls. >> john lewis gave an emotional speech to a young crowd in miami remembering martin luther king's legacy and eluded to the controversy. >> when you see something not right, not just, not fair, you have a moral obligation to do and say something and not be blind. >> more democrats join in inauguration boycott after the president elect hits back at a civil rights icon. >> nothing normal about what is happening here. >> we are dealing with someone that will conduct the business of the presidency dimpley than anyone before him.
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>> donald trump talking about nato being obsolete. >> we heard the opposite from his nominee to be secretary of defense james madison just last week. >> it continues to feed suspicion he is cozying up to putin in an extraordinary way. >> what would martin luther king jr. think of donald trump? what would he have said about donald trump during the campaign if he had not been assassinated in the middle of the presidential campaign of 1968? dr. king would be 88 years old today. we are left to wonder what he would say about donald trump, as we have been left to wonder what he would say about everything. since april 4th, 1968. here's one possibility of what martin luther king jr. would have said if he had been alive to witness the trump president presidential campaign. >> he is definitely an
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unacceptable candidate, i think in foreign policy he sets forth aile which can very easily forms a whole civilized world in to an abyss of annihilation. he gives the philosophy that is out of harmony with the 20th century and in civil rights he articulates a philosophy which serves to give aid and comfort to the racists. >> aid and comfort to the racists. >> standing with martin luther king jr. when he said that was john lewis. >> mr. clinton, i don't see how any decent american can support a man like barry goldwater, with a man rallying people around hatred, people like the ku klux klan. >> barry goldwater was the '64 republican nominee for president.
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he lost to johnson but was strongly supported in that campaign by nixon and reagan, both of whom would go on to win their own presidential campaigns. martin luther king junior would most likely have seen the same faults in donald trump that he saw in barry goldwater and would have likely objected to trump's policy and his giving aid and comfort to the racists, which donald trump had energetically been doing for five years before he became the republican nominee by advancing an endless stream of lies about president obama's birth. >> three weeks ago i thought he was born in this country. right now i have doubts. i have had been studying it and they cannot believe what they are finding. >> you have people in hawaii. >> absolutely. an they cannot believe what they are finding. >> in to that same home where donald trump launched his
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campaign of hatred and lies about president obama's birth five years ago, martin luther king jr.'s oldest son had to walk today. every minute he was in trump tower today martin luther king iii was walking a an invisible tight rope. he was trying to convince trump to take a small step in the right direction toward voting rights. he didn't want to say anything negative about trump. when he was leaving his meeting with donald trump he was asked that question that has become his life-long burden, what would your father think? >> on this day, what would your father's message be to trump? with. >> what do you think your father's message would be to donald trump. >> i will reiterate what i just said. i think my father would be concerned there are 580, 60 million people living in poverty and we have to create a climate for all voters to be lifted. in america, with $23 trillion economy it is insanity we have poor people in this nation.
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that's unacceptable. when we work together, we know we can roll up our sleeves. there's nothing we as americans can't do. >> a tough tight rope to be on today. he could have said everything that he would imagine his father saying about donald trump and then instantly lose any chance of influencing donald trump. but martin luther king iii wants to encourage donald trump to provide ways to provide cheap i.d.s, free passports or photos on social security cards to people who don't have photo i.d.s so they will be able to comply with voter i.d. laws. he wants to enable more people to vote. that was one of his father's life missions. that's why martin luther king iii was at trump tower today. here's how he handled the question he knew was coming about his father's friend, now a member of congress, john lewis. >> were you offended by president elect's tweet that represented lewis's all talk and no action?
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>> first of all, i think that in the heat of emotion a lot of things get said on both sides. i think that at some point -- i am, as john lewis and many others are, a bridge builder. the goal is to bring america together and americans. we are a great nation, but we must become a greater nation. what my father represented, my mother represented through her life, what i hope i'm trying to do is bring people together. >> 32 other members of congress are joining john lewis in his announced boycott of the inauguration ceremony, a boycott likely to be felt by television networks now that the donald trump is the most unpopular president to be inaugurated since the inintention of polling. -- invention of polling. he is polling at 40%. here's congressman lewis at a scholarship breakfast for young african-american men today.
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>> if it wasn't for martin luther king jr. i don't know where i would be, still a man in rural alabama making chickens. if it hasn't been for him i wouldn't be a member of the house of representatives since 1987. if it hadn't been for martin luther king jr., i don't know what would have happened top our nation. freed us. he liberated us to make our nation a better place, to make our world a better place. >> joining us is jonathon capehart and mark thompson. i don't presume to lead this discussion today. i'd like to get your reactions to where we stand tonight in this controversy between john lewis, donald trump and on this anniversary of martin luther king day.
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>> when it comes to the feud between congressman lewis and donald trump, i think we can get bogged down in the distraction in the battle between the two of them and lose sight of the fact that you have a president elect who's doing battle with a sitting member of congress. there are contentious relationships in this city. that's not new. what's new is a president elect, soon to be president, who cannot let any slight go. so any -- any criticism, any negative critique of him will be met with, from him, with sort of devastating insult and impact via twitter and other means. at some point, while everyone has been waiting for donald trump to act presidential, if there was -- if there ever was a moment, if there was a day, if there ever was a person for whom that could happen, it was today, martin luther king day and congressman lewis and yet he
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didn't do that. when it comes to martin luther king iii, as with other people, african from inamericans, steve harvey comes to mind in particular, the idea that every is trooping to trump tower an irrational exercise to deal with and talk to the incoming president of the united states when that person has shown in multiple ways that he is nice to your face and then the moment you walk out of the room he's not. he will go after you on twitter. what he promises to do for you in that room could change at a moment. that's why i have been telling people to not necessarily listen to what donald trump says, but to pay attention exactly to what he does. that is going to be paramount at 12:01 on january 20th. >> your reactions and feelings today?
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>> first of all, happy martin luther king jr. day and thank you for having me. i think john lewis is serving of all of the respect we can give him. he was bloody on our behalf. we would not be able to vote if it weren't for him. he is the conscience of the congress and an american hero. if john lewis saz said i was not legitimate. i'd have to look in the mirror. he might be justified because of his stature. he was an apostle of dr. king. i don't know what is worse, donald trump lashing ou and insulting him the way he did or the rumors we are hearing that the tweet is his standard boilerplate template for all black elected officials and he may not have known who john lewis was at the time. they are both pretty equal but neither one is good. for someone to question the legit massty of president obama during the administration, he's
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in no place to challenge john lewis in terms of questioning his legitimacy. if you put russia aside, the excellent clip of dr. king that you played is directly applicable to donald trump because has given aid and comfort to racists. if we don't know about russia, that questions his legitimacy. as far as martin luther iii, he was interviewing dr. forbes and he said to me, this is the difference between me and steve harvey and other entertainers had. they went in with a demand which is dr. king did. he didn't meet with presidents without a demand. they went with a demand and dr. ford said that martin iii felt he had a responsibility, especially on his father's
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birthday to inform donald trump what would be expected of him by martin luther king jr. >> i get it. it was a difficult tight rope and i understand why he was there and why he handled it the way he did and i understand jonathon's point about how you have to be careful who you are talking to. to the question of donald trump even knowing the history of someone he's been embroiled in all weekend. he apparently knows nothing about heros. he was asked in the london send times, does he have any heros an the question was put to him throughout human history. anyone in human history he could think of and listen to this answer from donald trump. well, i don't like heros. i don't like the concept of heros. it is never great but you can respect certain people and there are certain people i learned a lot from. my father built houses a enhousing and learned a lot of
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negotiation from my father and negotiations in natural trade. either you have it or you don't, you are better at it but basically -- you get better at it but people that i know that are great politicians, sales,man and politicians are natural. very natural. i got a letter from congressman anded they said it is amazing you have never been a politician and you beat politicians. i had three months experience and the 17 guys i was running against had 236 years. when you add 2rs 0, 30 year and i was 3:00 months in and they were 236 years so it's funny article but i believe it's like hitting a baseball or being a good golfer natural ability is more important to me than experience and experience is a great thing and i think it's a great thing but i learned a lot from my father in terms of leadership." that's donald trump's comment about the entire human history of leadership or heros jonathon capehart, the only two people he can mention are himself, mostly
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and glancing reference to his father. >> right. >> little more than than a glancing reference to his father. he reveres his father but he reveres himself more. he can't possibly imagine there is anyone else in human history who has shown leadership or any -- showed any ability that is worthy of reverence. we are sitting here in this country, living among living legends, and one of them is congressman lewis. one thing i forgot to mention in my comment to your first question, that i have another member of congress to add to the 33 that you noted are not coming to donald trump's inauguration. that is california congresswoman karen bass who said, yesterday, went to facebook to ask her constituents whether she should come to the inauguration. i learned from her tonight she
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is staying in her district through sunday. what we are seeing are members of congress who are staying away as a show of conscience and for a lot of them a show of leadership in terms of meeting their constituents and what they want. the day after the inauguration, we will see a lot of people to in their way show leadership and take ownership of their own futures. >> so breaking news from jonathon capehart with karen bass. now we have 34 members of congress, mark thompson, who are openly boycotting this inauguration. it's going to be really a two-day event, in that what happens on saturday in the protest is a response to what's going on friday. >> absolutely. if dr. king were alive and if coretta scott king were alive i have no doubts -- >> what day they would be there? >> on saturday and i intend to be 0 there on saturday to support the womens march. that's where dr. king would be. even in all of this,s what
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martin did today, what john lewis is doing these are the things that dr. king would be doing if he were alive. >> thank you for joining us on this important day. appreciate it. coming up, donald trump continued his campaign against the u.s. intelligence community, and then of course managed to insult nato, managed to insult one of our allies, the nato former supreme commander will be here and former under secretary of state will join us on that. donald trump proved that even he doesn't speak for donald trump. maybe he proved that. we'll find out if his promises on health care actually are fulfilled.
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i don't think he has an appreciation of russian capabilities and actions they are undertaking in parts of the world. >> that is cia director john brennan talking about donald trump yesterday. donald trump replied on twitter, fox news, outgoing cia chief john brennan blasts president elect trump on threat he doesn't understand. oh, really. couldn't do worse, like at crimea, ukraine and the build up of russian nukes, not good. is in the leaker of fake news? in the interview with the times of london, donald trump saw no difference between angela merkel and vladimir putin. he was asked who would you press more, angela merkel or vladimir putin and he said, well, i start off trusting both. donald trump sees no difference between the dictator vladimir putin and democratically elected leader angela merkel, one of our most reliable allies. he was asked if he could understand why eastern europeans fear vladimir putin and russia.
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those were the exact words of the question. he gave an answer that sounded as if he did not understand the question. here are donald trump's actual words in answer to the question -- can you understand why eastern europeans fear putin and russia. here's his answer. oh, sure, i know that. i understand what's going on. i said a long time ago that nato had problems. number one it was obsolete because it was designed many years ago. number two the countries aren't paying what they are supposed to be paying. i took heat. when i nato is obsolete it is obsolete because hi it wasn't taking care of terror. and now it is on the front page of 0 of the "wall street journal" that they have a division devoted to terror. we are supposed to protect countries but a lot of these countries aren't paying what they are supposed to be paying which is unfair to the united states, with that being said nato is important to me. now, remember, the question was
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not, is nato important. the question was -- can you understand why eastern europeans fear putin and russia and there's not a hint. not a hint that donald trump understands that at all or even understands that question. joining us now, general wesley clark, sup prime allied commander from 1997, senior fellow at the uk berkeley center. general clark, finally donald trump did get to say nato is very important to me. after all of those other hard to follow sentences about how dissatisfied he is with nato and apparently no comprehension at all, none, as to why anyone in europe would fear vladimir putin and russia. >> yeah, i look at it as posturing before he goes in to office.
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he, for some reason, doesn't want to say anything bad about vladimir putin. fine. but let's see what the policies look like when he gets in office. i can understand why maybe he doesn't want to go in and start a verbal war with putin before he gets in office, but our allies are judging his potential actions by his words. there are a lot of people in europe that are frightened by what mr. trump has said. i think it is one thing to posture. i think he can probably get away with it because he's not an knowledged expert on foreign policy but it is not thing when he gets in office. he will have to be realistic and reflect u.s. policies or change those policies. you know, for 100 years, we have been trying to make the world safe for democracy, walk back on that and that will be a big change. >> listen to what his defense secretary, nominated not yet confirmed defense secretary said about nato.
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>> senator, if we did not have nato today we'd need to create it. nato is vital to our national interests. >> it makes you wonder what they talked about when donald trump was having a discussion about joining the cabinet. it unt doesn't sound like they talked about nato. >> i wouldn't speculate on that. but i agree nato is the greatest a i lines that has been created in the history of the world. we are the architect of that alliance. in fact, diplomacy is about alliance, which is something that mr. trump doesn't seem to understand. you don't renegotiaten in an alliance like a lease when you come in to office. you build on 70 years of history that kept the peace in europe as clark said. from the 20th century, 100 million young men died in wars. there's been no world war since and part of the reason is because of nato. >> general clark, what's your sense of how the discussion will go in the white house about nato
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opposed to what the defense secretary has to say about it? >> i think the defense secretary will have a big say as to what happens in the white house. i think what they will try to do is trade off what they can -- how much support they can get from russia to deal with isis, to freeze out iran and maybe trade that off against the policies on nato. this would be a shame. the russians really do understand linkage. what they did in crimea, by seizing it illegally and doing in ukraine, these are real threats to the stability of europe. of what is happening in the middle east is different. it's fine to try to work with russia. but they have to change their behavior. it's not just a matter of personalities. it is different perceptions of national interest and different behavior of nations. when secretary kerry was negotiating the iran deal, it seemed to be the principle we are going to only talk about the possibility of nuclear weapons,
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not bring in other factors. dwrump is already doing that. he publicly said he is willing to drop sanctions if vladimir putin enter ises in to some kind of limitation on nuclear weapons, which is an unrelated issue to why the sanctions were imposed. >> linkage is not always a good thing. the problem is that -- let me answer the question the sunday times asked. why are the -- i interviewed putin in 2007. that's when he said the greatest tragedy of the 280th century is the break j up of the soviet union, the baltics, lithuania, asonia, were part of the old soviet union. they want to recreate themselves. they are afraid putin will invade them, will question article five of the nato agreement which says one country has to come to the aid of all if invaded.
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if putin sends a tank in to latvia, he's betting that the u.s. will not intervene and donald trump may not. >> thank you for joining us tonight. appreciate it. coming up, elizabeth warren, bernie sanders, many other senators leading rallies across the country over the weekend in support of the preservation of the affordable care act. that's next. companies in the co. after expanding our fiber network coast to coast. these are the places we call home. we are centurylink. we believe in the power of the digital world. the power to connect. and that's what drives us everyday.
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if republicans try to rip health care out of the hands of millions of americans, we will fight them every step of the way. >> that is elizabeth warren on the steps of historic hall in boston yesterday. thousands showed up for the rally. democratic senators held rallies a i cross the country yesterday to protest republican plans to repeal the affordable care act. in michigan, a rally had to be moved outside to accommodate thousands of overflow who showed up to see senator bernie sanders who said this -- >> today, from maine to california there are 70 rallies. and tens and tens of thousands of americans are saying loudly and clearly, republicans, you are not going to destroy the affordable care act. >> more than 150 people showed
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up to republican congressman mike kauffman's meeting with constituents on saturday. representative kauffman voted to repeal the affordable care act. here's the local nbc station's report of what happened at his meeting with constituents. >> i'm going to potentially lose my health insurance. i have had pre-existing kpn condition. i have had breast cancer. what's going to happen to me? >> reporter: while they were singing and waiting, police were putting up crime scene tape so kauffman could leave. six minutes before the event was supposed to end. >> we were told at one point everyone would get their time and he sneaks out six minutes early. i think he couldn't handle it. >> last night there was a big scoop for the "washington post" reporting that donald trump told them we're going to have insurance for everybody.
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there was a philosophy in some circles that if you can't pay for it, you don't get it. that's not going to happen with us. donald trump offered no other details other than to say, it will be in much simplified form, much less expensive and much better. dr. howard dean and the author of "america's bitter pill" will join us next. >> there's no justice with no yeah, so mom's got this cold.
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author of america's bitter pill." dr. dean, we have a set of principles laid down by donald trump which might amount to either what he delivers or basically attack lines for democrats to use on what he doesn't liver. for example, now telling the "washington post," health insurance, health care for everybody. that's, of course, the slang for universal coverage, as they say. that's the standard he's laid down now. if he doesn't deliver that, than he is not delivering on his promise. >> yeah. you know, for all of the things we say about trump that are unattractive, he does have political instincts and he does know where people are headed. he said something that was smart politically but i suspect he has no -- first of all, i suspect he
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didn't consult with anyone in the administration and i suspect he has no idea how he will deliver this and it will be quite a spectacle to see what happens as this goes down the line. >> kellyanne conway was on greta van sustern's show earlier tonight and laid down some of her items she believes will be in the trump plan. buy health insurance over state lines. what does that do? >> have you ever heard of a company called aetna, united health care? >> yes. >> they sell insurance in more than one state. >> kind of everywhere i looked. >> what they are suggesting is if you live in new jersey you can buy insurance in south dakota because south dakota has the loosest regulations and therefore will charge a price that reflects the fact it is not real insurance. so they are fleeced.
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>> there are dozens of states all over the country that would be willing to allow health insurance policies to be sold but that the state of california would never allow because they would say it is sub standard. >> besides the issue with health care, as dr. dinos, is not the insurance companies because they pay for health care it is the price of health care that we pay, as patients and insurance companies pay. the other thing i think they will do and i think we need to educate everyone in the country though beware of three words "high risk pools." that's what they are going to sell temperature they are going to provide insurance for everybody by putting people who are sick and with pre-existing conditions in to high-risk pools. that's exactly what was done before obamacare. there were waiting lists. there were caps on coverage, $50,000 a year, $100,000 lifetime, depending on the state. everybody had to pay premiums of 150, 200% more than everybody
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else. if you take all the sick people and put them in to one pool and the healthy people in another pool, the healthy people get lower premiums because they are in a pool with just healthy people but the sick people suffer and that's the opposite purpose of insurance which is to spread the risk. that's the scam of high-risk pools. it never worked. >> dr. dean, i'm going to ask you a governor's question now. kellyanne conway mentioned block granting medicaid to the states. what's your reaction to that? >> it depends how it's done. the trouble is when republicans talk about doing it, they are usually talking about eliminating care for poor people. when democrats talk about this, they are doing it as a budgetary model. it's not a crazy idea but it can be a crazy idea and it was a crazy idea when reagan tried to do it. i'd say it is a mixed bag.
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let me say, steve is 100% right. if we buy insurance across state lines it will be a race to the bottom. texas has 22% of children with no health insurance. we had universal health insurance for kids in vermont for years. it is a terrible idea put together by people that love free markets but don't know anything about health care. >> other items on the kellyanne conway list, which doesn't mean it is on the trump list, but create health savings accounts. >> that's nice. >> those are fine for small items but don't work when you are trying to decide whether to have a heart operation. >> four or $5,000 or having a tax credit of $5,000 per person. health care in this country costs an average of 10,000 plus per capita.
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if you have a family of four, if you are going to buy insurance, do anything, someone, somewhere has to come up with $40,000. having a health savings account for $5,000 or a tax credit for 5,000, $6,000 sounds nice. you could then have a press conference and say we are providing insurance for everyone but you are actually providing insurance for no one other than those in the upper middle class and above who can afford it. >> we will have to leave it there. it are manes guess work what the trump plan if there is one what it will be. thank you for joining us. >> you are welcome. coming up, if the crowd of people in washington for the inauguration actually reflect the views of the american people, than there will be more people there to protest than to celebrate. the polling for donald trump is not good.
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according to the gallup poll, president obama will leave office this week with a 588% favorability rating and donald trump has a 40% favorability rating. tonight at 11:00, rs brian williams will report on the presidency of barack obama. >> i stand before you again tonight to tell you i am more optimistic about the future of america than ever before. >> this young man emerged out of nowhere. >> the crowd spreads out as far as the eye can see. >> you are looking at the 44th president of the united states. >> i barack hussein obama. >> the opposition of obama was so ugly and intense. >> he's a cool guy. he's proven that out over eight years.
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>> we will not see a president like this for a long time. >> our union is not yet perfect but we are getting closer. >> thoughtful, intelligent, makes us look good around the world, who bears the office grandly. >> early on, he called himself no drama obama and i think over eight years he demonstrated he was serious. there was no personal scandal that attached to him. when you think of the presidency in recent decades that's an achievement. >> i think history will be very kind to the president. he never gave up.
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he never gave in he never became bitter or hostile. he kept the faith and kept moving ahead. >> his speech here in philadelphia i remarked i hadn't voted for him either time but watching him recap his own presidency i was happy and proud he had been our president for the last eight years. >> what i will miss is his grace and his -- the way he operates under pressure. i will miss nuance, i will miss his thoughtfulness. >> it has been the honor of my life to serve you. i won't stop. in fact, i will be right there with you, as a citizen, all my remaining days. >> the obama years with brian williams airs in the next hour on this network msnbc. stay with us. coming up, donaltrp' polling numbers are the lowest ever in the history of polling for an incoming president of the united states. he hasn't taken office yet. usually those poll numbers get much worse after a president
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takes the oath of office. that's next.
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the words of donald trump, this is more from the london sunday times interview with donald trump. question, what does it mean for you to have german blood in your veins? the answer, well, it's great. i mean i'm very proud of jaerm and germany is very special.
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this is isn't any question. this is seriously germany. i'm proud of germany, i love germany, i love the uk. i don't know. we'll be right back. [burke] at farmers, we've seen almost everything,
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on monday, not on -- monday, donald trump day one. joining us now the author of "true american and nbc news contributor. when he finally gets to that, his counting of day one, the first order of business for m is strong borders, not building the ll. we're not sure what that means at this point. >> he's someone who i think has never accomplished any of the things that he has claimed to accomplish. we can assume that pattern will continue. it's not for him to get to work
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only when he's sworn in on friday. i think a lot of us who have been anguished, who have been concerned, who spent the last month plus in a funk, we also get to work this friday. >> apparently you are gathering on saturday, many of you in washington who have those. >> as of that moment on saturday when we will see those images, i think it's going to be a moment of awakening for a generation that frankly has been lulled in to a long, political slumber. people vote, people canvas, but, you know, i think for all of my lifetime, i'm 35 years old, i don't think that anything existential has ever felt at stake about this country politically. we have been told -- my generation has been told ghosts start social enterprises and they will send a pair to somewhere in africa and the world will be great.
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>> as overwhelming as 9/11 was, it wasn't a political. >> i don't think that anyone thought we would lose the republic. i think there's a lot of serious people, serious, smart, thoughtful people who have a legitimate concern that republics aren't forever and this is the moment that sometimes imperils them. so it is a very dark moment on friday, and then the protest on saturday. in a strange way i've started to feel this week in a way i haven't before, that this is an amazing moment of hope for a generation that gets to live in a time that matters. it's not usually pleasant times that times matter. >> as i pointed out through the polling we had last week and more come in, that you are not alone if you are in those alienated from the trump administration. that's the majority of americans now in all polling. >> he's not -- he doesn't just fail to attract the polling approval of the majority of americans.
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when congressman lewis called him illegitimate, there is a procedural ill legitimacy he was maybe referring to but a moral ill legitimacy to his presidency that in the eyes of our founders, in the eyes of the people i studied in high school and college and their work, i think he would have had a lower approval rating than 40% among those people. >> thank you for joining us. appreciate it. i want to give the last word tonight to dr. martin luther king jr. from his 1964 speech accepting the nobel prize. i refuse to accept the view that man kind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. i believe that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have the final word." dr. martin luther king jr. gets
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tonight's last word. the obama years with brian williams starts right now. i stand before you tonight to tell you i'm more optistic about the future of america than ever before. >> unbelievable young man, handsome, well spoken emerged out of nowhere. >> the crowd spreads out literally as far as the eye can see. >> he had something unique to offer the american people. to offer the american people. >> you are looking at the 44th president of the united states. >> i barrack hussein obama. >> the opposition to barrack obama was so intense and was so ugly. >> the president straight out said elections have consequences and i'm one. >> he's a cool guy. he has proven that out over 8 years.

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