tv The 11th Hour With Brian Williams MSNBC January 18, 2017 11:00pm-11:31pm PST
we just have to fight for it. we have to work for it and not take it for granted. and i know that you will help us do that. thank you very much, press corps. good luck! msnbc's live coverage continues into the 11th hour with brian williams. that's next. the time can now be measured in hours until the inauguration of donald j. trump now facing new questions on the subject of russia and intelligence gathering. the departing 44th president reveals what it would take for him to speak up during a trump presidency and reminds his fellow democrats this is not the end of the world. tonight an unlikely group of voters who delivered the white house to the president-elect. those who went for obama twice and then trump where and how did the democrats lose them and what do they expect from the new guy? plus the latest from houston
where the former president and former first lady are both hospitalized. the 11th hour begins now. once again, good evening from our headquarters here in new york, for weeks we have been counting you down to the inauguration in terms of days. for weeks euphemistically we've been saying we've reached the 11th hour in this long campaign season, well, midnight tonight, east coast time, puts us 36 hours from donald trump being sworn in of our 45th president and commander in chief of the u.s. military. tonight, the president elect was in washington making stops at two honorary dinners at the national por tral gallery, another at the library of congress. the traveling press pool also noted tonight there was an unannounced stop at the new trump international hotel on the mall in washington where he himself had dinner. he is back here in new york
tonight and heads to washington again tomorrow. this time, by air force jet. wilbur ross, trump's epa pick scott pruitt, health and human services nominee, congressman tom price, and governor nikki haley of louisiana. south carolina, trump's choice for u.n. ambassador. more on those hearings a bit later. also this the news today, the health of a former commander in chief, george h.w. bush, 41, remains in intensive care in houston tonight. a respiratory problem tied to pneumonia. and his wife, former first lady barbara bush also has been hospitalized for her own difficulty with bronchitis. we'll have an update on them later on. there's alzheimer's news today on russia's involvement on the election. citing two different sources,
the news service is reporting that quote, the fbi and five other law enforcement and intelligence agencies have collaborated to influence the november election. the investigation court reportedly included the fbi, cia, national security agency. the justice department, the treasury department's financial crime enforcement network and representatives of the director of national intelligence. it goes on, quote. investigators are examining how money may have moved from the kremlin to covertly help trump win. nbc news has also confirmed that the fbi along with multiple intelligence agencies has continued to investigate russia's election interference including how the operation was financed and whether any americans were involved. and this very busy day in washington, also saw the final press conference from president obama while in office. his 39th, which covered a range of topics including his
successor. >> i won't go into details of my conversations with president-elect trump. as i've said before, they are cordial. at times, they've been fairly lengthy and they've been substantive. i can't tell you how convincing i've been. i think you'd have to ask him whether i've been convincing or not. i have offered my best advice council about certain issues both foreign and domestic. and i think a lot of his views are going to be shaped by his advisors. the people around him. which is why it's important to pay attention to these confirmation hearings. i can tell you that -- and this is something i have told him, that this is a job of such magnitude that you can't do it by yourself. you are enormously reliant on a
team. i believe in this country. i believe in the american people. i believe that people are more good than bad. and my core, i think we're going to be okay. we just have to fight for it, we have to work for it and not take it for granted. and i know that you will help us do that. thank you very much press corps. good luck. >> with that good luck, he was out of the room. we want to bring in our lead panel to start us off tonight. beginning with chris jansing was there for that today, nicole wallace who was here with us today for that. campaign veteran and former white house communications director for bush 43, and jeremy bash is with us tonight. former chief of staff for the the department of defense and the cia. and jeremy, that is precisely why we begin with you on the president-elect on the topic of russia. what do you think happens now, especially to satisfy all of those with lingering questions
about why the carve out for putin. why putin and russia have so e sid ewe white housely avoided any criticism thus far? >> good evening, brian. it's interesting the administration will come into office on friday with not one, but two federal investigations now looming overhead. the first one was announced on fri by the senate intelligence committee, richard brewer of north carolina announced a pretty wide ranging investigation that will also probe not just russian hacking, but in fact contacts between the presidential campaign and the russians. and now potentially if this report is correct, there's a second counterintelligence investigation led by the bureau, led by the fbi with other intelligence agencies participating. and this is an investigation, brian, where they will use efforts to cease bank records, travel records, credit card records, cell phone records, and even potentially e-mail intercepts and five is a telephone intercepts to obtain
potentially damming information about they contacts between russian agents of influence and their american assets. and so, brian, i think the issue here is that the, you know, the president obama and his press conference today said you've got to rely on a team. the fbi and the national security agencies and the intelligence professionals are not going to be part of donald trump's team. and he's going to need them and he's going to need to corporate with their investigation even as they investigate potentially people in his circle. >> but jeremy, there's a new sheriff in town, we just saw him, why would he not want to shut this down and get on with the business of the presidency and isn't it true that only in gresham novels does that career investigator, doj-kind of working nights and weekend doggedly continue on an investigation that's been curved? >> yeah, but he's going to have somebody like jim comey the head of the fbi who's going to be his
principle advisor on counterintelligence issues. and on law enforcement issues, and he's going to say mr. president, we have to investigate this matter. we have to figure out whether a foreign government played a role and tried to hack and tried to be involved in our election. and i don't think that's something that the white house and the new team is going to want to shut down so easily. >> chris jansing, over to you at the white house, we last spoke during our live coverage of today's extraordinary event, extraordinary i thought because of the nature of some of the questions, the folks in the press corps, like yourself, who've been with this president for hundreds of thousands of miles, kind of knew what to ask to bring about informed personal responses. we saw a lot of that today. how would you describe his mood? was it cautionary? was it wistful? >> reflective. and i would say wistful, and i think he's surrounded by people who have not quite gotten to the place where he is, brian, which is what you heard from him at
the end. we're going to be okay. there are people who have worked for him for these eight years who are worried about that. and i think you've played part of the sound where he essentially had advice for donald trump, but intrinsic in many of those potential room nations were warnings. a key question was what do you do next? yes, i'm going to write, i'm going to relax, i'm going to be quiet, but then he put out a laundry ways in which he would not be quiet. he he felt core values were challenged. things like systemic discrimination. obstacles to voting, press restrictions, and efforts to round of kids who have grown up here. as you know, there is this sort of tradition, and we saw it with the former president bush when he went to texas was barely heard from, this president is going to live just two miles away from where donald trump will reside at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. and he has made it clear that if some of the things he has criticized donald trump for, he pushes them as policy.
he's going to be out there and he's going to be speaking about it, brian, it was a really, i thought remarkable sort of juxtaposition of a man who has come to terms with the fact that this part of his life is over. but is not quite ready to give up the fight. he's only 55. he's got a long time left. >> nicole wallace, even fierce critics of your former boss, george w. bush thought he went out in such a classy way by keeping quiet, keeping his powder dry. letting the new president become president. but to borrow the title of doris kern's great book about fdr, this is no ordinary time. we've never seen this, we've never seen a president-elect come into office like this. say nothing of the poll rating that donald trump has right now. >> so he goes out of office with a much higher approval rating than in the last few outgoing presidents. i think what he did today was very interesting. i think he planted two pillars
around which we'll probably rest a foundation of at least the next chapter of his life. one, on russia and putin, and he leaves office with as grave of a national security crisis under way as there was economic crisis under way when george w. bush left office. i mean, what jeremy's talking about is about dire a scenario as you can paint. an incoming president is now his circle is under investigation for alleged contacts between the russians and potential american assets. so he is -- i thought he sounded as much like john mccain and lindsey graham as anyone in his own party when he spoke about protecting democracy. when he spoke about protecting a free press. and i don't think any of those words were subtle, and i don't think any of those warnings were coded. and i think that he was saying, i know -- and i know more than anyone here does because of the nature of my job, and i'm going to sort of protect american democracy. and it sounds really big, but
that is exactly what is under way. that is exactly what's at risk. and then i thought he planted a pillar and spent a little bit more time on some of the causes that have probably always been near and dear to him. he listed voting rights and evoked the era of jim crow. he planted two pillars that sort of explained why he's leaving in such a popular way. around which many sort of liberal causes and worries i think remain and he said i'm going to keep up the fight. but this crisis, and i don't want to be melodramatic, i don't know how else to describe it, if you watched -- we watched the mccain hearing last week and jeremy was on after that, we are talking about not being able o to get to the bottom yet of what russia's role was in our election. and we have a man as president-elect who is resistant to learning everything because i think at his core he thinks it undermines him or delegitimizes his win. and until he can separate out those two things. i think a lot of people will remain very worried that we
won't get to the bottom of it. >> jeremy, i'm asking you to think about what you just said at the top of our broadcast. i'm thinking of nixon's second term, yes, there was a cloud, there was anger in the streets, there was not dhash we yet knew, an ongoing crisis. a crisis that had started and it hit the ground before the man being sworn in. >> and the crisis could be compounded, brian, because if russia tries to do something say in syria or in europe against the border states of nato, and then the question is presented to the national security council, what should we do about this, mr. president. the administration could potentially be divided. if you take the words of his nominees in the hearings. the secretary of defense, the cia director, today, the u.n. ambassador nominee. they're all basically in a different place than he is. and so we could have two overlapping situations. one is the investigation, not by democrats by the way, but by a
republican-led senate committee, and career professionals at the fbi. this is not a partisan issue. and the second piece which is an internally divided a mrgs. i think it's going to cause for major concern and potentially chaos. >> jeremy, i'm going to ask you not to make any travel plans in the weeks and months to come. we're goingen to relying on you and your experience as we get on into this, but for tonight, thank you for tonight, chris jansing, thank you, nicole's going to stick here with us in the studio. we'll take our first break of the broadcast tonight and coming up for a grilling of some of donald trump's cabinet picks on capitol hill today, this is the 11th hour.
the president-elect has said let's do a repeal and replace simultaneously. >> i think that's fair. one of the important things we need to convey to the american people is that nobody -- nobody's interested in pulling the rug out from under anybody. >> president-elect donald trump's nominee to run health and human services who will play a huge role in the future of our health care system, tried to reassure voters about the coverage today. congressman tom price. his hearing was one of four that happened at the same time today. nicole wallace remains with us here in new york and joining in our conversation, charlie sykes who also running the conservative website right did wisconsin. i've had a tough time. i'm sure it's easier to click on it. do you think this is going to fall into even though some of these nominees are not routine,
are we going to see what usually happened? and that is people get roughed up, they get bruised in some cases. but most of all, they go through. >> yeah, i don't think any will be turned down. there might be drama about tillerson, i don't see willingness on the part of republicans or the house or the senate to buck donald trump at this particular point. the big question mark of course is we're two days away from the inauguration and we have no idea all of those things are giant question marks, but i don't think there's going to be a lot of drama when it comes to ultimately whether or not the cabinet members get confirmed. he has enjoyed shall we say gnawing on a few nominees. here is bernie sanders with congressman price. >> my question is, in canada, in
other countries, all people have the right to get health care. do you believe we should move in that direction -- >> if you want to talk about other country's health care systems. there are consequences to the decisions that they've made, just as there are consequences to decisions we've made. i look forward to make certain that every single american has access to the quality care and coverage that is possible. >> as access to, does not mean that they are guaranteed health care. i have access to buying a $10 million home. i don't have the money to do that. >> and it went kind of like that. do you think it's been kind of fashionable until the media today charlie to think that price should be added to the list of those who may actually have a rough go of it. >> i just don't see that happening. in fact, that philosophical exchange right there is fundamental to the divide between democrats and republicans. liberals and conservatives.
the notion that should we have nationalized, socialized medicine? look, we just had an election, and the democrats did not win, nobody was elected who was in favor of that particular thing. and i think that, you know -- again, this is not going to turn on the nomination of congressman price to this particular position. bernie sanders has not made the case that we should now trust the government with -- to control of the health care system. that is not what the american people voted for. and i don't think it's what they really want. >> nicole, there's going to be a lot of vacant positions with the administration. they have not moved fast, they have not moved in the traditional way to fill a lot of the 4,000 or so positions they have to fill. and i want to ask you about the learning curve, especially in light of a devastating piece that went up in the "new york times" website tonight. it's about the former texas governor rick perry who was the dez knee for the department of
energy, i will quote from it briefly. mr. perry gladly accepted believing he was taking on a role as a global ambassador for the american oil and gas industry that he had long championed in his home state. in the days after blb perry, the former texas governor discovered he would be doing no such thing. that in fact if confirmed by the the senate, he would become the steward of a vast national security complex. he knew almost nothing about, caring for the most fearsome weapons on the planet, the united states nuclear arsenal. your reaction. >> well, my first thought what i read that was that the iran deal is probably one of the most consequence shl foreign policy, you know, if you're a republican you don't like it, if you're in the obama administration, you call accomplishments. the obama presidency of all eight years. one of the key figures in getting that through congress was america's energy secretary this is a really important job. and there is a job where you champion the oil and gas industry. it's called being a lobbyist for
the oil and gas industry, and they ma be hiring. that's not what this jobs was. and i think there is going to be a point, we talked earlier today, we were covering the obama press conference about, you know, obama has sort of -- i don't want to call him a mentor, but he's fielded calls from donald trump about some of the more routine things, staffing up a government. and i think what donald trump is trying to do maybe admirable especially in the eyes of the supporters, to make big statements. he's making a big statement about an ideological departure from the government's role in education. he sees charter schools as part of the solution. he wants to make a big statement in placing people from outside government in these big jobs. >> rex tillerson. >> the cabinet secretaries are the ones, one where republicans have concern. and rex tillerson is one such example.
and that's not about rex tillerson's reflexes on russia, that's about donald trump's impulses on russia. and to your question about filling a government, this is not donald trump's reflexes and impulses on the necessity of government. he won a presidential campaign without any of the kinds of people that had jobs like mine. so he probably isn't yet convinced that you need all 4,000 of those people. but -- you know, i think it will take a crisis or a stumble or something embarrassing -- i mean that article has to be embarrassing to president-elect trump that didn't understand the job he was taking. i think it will take a few of these very public calamities for him to make any sort of departure from the rather sort of slow-pace of staffing of the government. >> nicole, charlie, stay with us. after this break, in trump they trust. he won their vote after many of them had previously voted for obama. so what do they expect him to do now? when the 11th hour continues.
we are back with report tonight about trump voters around this country, why they cast their vote and what they now expect in return. our own political veteran, nicole wallace went out on the road a few days back starting in a place where the economy has been especially cruel. erie, pa, always reliably blue,
the democrats expected to win there until trump won. nicole went looking for a specific group of voters who sided with barack obama, not once, but voted for him twice before deciding to vote for donald trump. nicole's here with us, in a moment we'll talk to her about her travels, the people she met in erie, pennsylvania. >> good morning, erie, i am barry. >> reporter: erie may be famous for big snowstorms, but this was an earthquake. >> people were looking for change. >> reporter: in a county that hasn't gone republican since ronald reagan and delivered two landslide victories to barack obama. >> i was a democrat my entire life. >> do you feel that hillary kind of ignored our area? >> yes. >> reporter: a place reeling from high unemployment and plant closings. >> and we heard a voice. >> we're going to bring back our jobs to pennsylvania. we're going to bring back our
jobs to the united states. >> i think trump was our only hope. >> hello. >> hi. >> welcome to the lawrence park diner. i'm more hopeful than i have been in months and years. >> reporter: judy phelps was a lifelong democrat. >> did you vote for president obama? >> yes, i did. >> reporter: both times? >> yeah. >> reporter: but this time -- >> i did not like hillary. she would say whatever she thought would buy her votes. when i saw donald trump, i didn't always like some of the things that he said, but he was not afraid -- he didn't mince words. you knew exactly where he stood. >> there was a lot riding on this, you know, for me and my family. >> reporter: that's because dave lock was making $30 an hour at general electrics locomotive plant. until the letter that so many around here dread. >> due to reduction in the work force, you will be removed from your current job. my family's security is now been taken away.