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inauguration, but this is what happened. >> what made you change your mind? maybe an obvious question. >> it was called for, i think. >> joy, thomas, come with me. you look down this way, all the way on fifth street here in downtown los angeles, and as far as the hh c see, i was here in los angeles in 2005 or 2006, when there was a massive immigration march going on here. some reports at the time said there were a million people. the vibe here today, i can't give you a crowd count, but i have seen some shots from the air. feels a lot like that march. of course, california provided much of that popular vote victory for hillary clinton in the election, back in november, around 3 million votes. she beat donald trump by -- i think she won by over a million votes here in the great state of california. let's take a little bit of a walk. we're connected to a cable here, so i want to be careful. excuse me, sir. let's see if i can bring some of these folks in. hi, how are you? you said you're marching for kids. we're live on msnbc. why are you say you're marching for kids? >> i would like to have a good
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president who will take care of all kids. it doesn't really matter what colors, what abilities they have, but i'm marching for kids. thank you. >> and donald trump is not that person for you, i assume. >> no way! >> okay, no way, she says. if we can keep going a little bit, this guy's taking a picture. what are you doing down here in downtown los angeles today? >> i'm marching to hopefully affect some change in the real world and hopefully this all translates into votes in the midterms. that's what's most important. that's how you really affect change. >> i was watching somebody yesterday, did they watch the inauguration -- i was asking somebody today, did they watch the inauguration yesterday? how about yourself? >> i did not. i did not care to watch. >> why tune out to that and show up to this today? >> i think this is more representative of my beliefs, to event. >> thank you very much. let's see if we can keep doing just a little bit. i don't know how much more cable we've got. come with me, guys. a little bit more. hi, come over here. these pink hats. we've seen these pink hats across the country today. we're live on msnbc right now. i'm curious, what brings you out
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here today? >> we don't want to normalize trump. we know that we have 2.89 million more people that voted for him, so we don't feel that he has a right to feel like he's got a mandate. >> is there an issue in particular that you care about? you said, don't normalize, scrutinize. >> just the fake news and the lies. >> get this out of your face, i want america to see you. >> so you said the fake news? >> the constant lying and denying of the truth. and, we're all here, we're all americans, and this is america for everybody, not just the few. and so we have to just keeping asking questions. if we see something wrong, we don't believe it, scrutinize and keep questioning, questioning, questioning. >> all right. it appreciate it very much. thomas, joy, it's an extraordinary scene out here in downtown los angeles. i want to leave you one more time with the look down fifth street, all four directions here. people as far as the eye can see. i'll throw it back to both of you. >> all right. jacob soboroff reporting there in downtown los angeles for us. jacob, thank you, sir, very much.
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and just to recap all of the different shots that we have today, this is a live look of washington, d.c., where the crowds were so large, reportedly over half a million people, that they were not accessible to the parade -- or excuse me, the route march to the white house. they had to go a different route r folks that wanted to go, but so many people were squeezed in. the different numbers we were going over before, the estimates here in d.c., over 500,000. also, this massive crowd in new york. we don't have a proper total on that just yet. but as we go to different cities like boston and denver, organizers in denver, they were planning for around 20,000. they say they have over 100,000 folks. boston is saying that it has over 125,000 people out there. they were expecting about 80. the organizers in boston. we have the st. paul pioneer press reporting that they have about 50,000 or 60,000 people that are marching through st. paul, with minnesota. so there are different sister marches that are happening throughout this country. i believe it was randi
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weingarten who told us it was 600 plus. this is a look just a second ago, was the look at new york, with as folks were marching towards trump tower. here is a look in washington, d.c., where we just had madonna performing at the backhalf of the 2:00 p.m. hour. it's now just a little past 3:00 here in washington, d.c. where it has not rained, the temperatures are a little chilly, but it has been a day for folks that were concerned or frustrated to come together and at least have one another to fall back on. now, we know that the activity of president trump today has been in the last hour, to leave the white house, it was about 1:57 on his way to a scheduled appearance to meet with folks over at the cia. i reached out to sean spicer, his press secretary, to see if there was any formal reaction from the white house. president trump's response to those folks in d.c. and around the country, i have yet to hear back from him. we'll let you know. we've been checking twitter feeds and we have not seen anything as of yet on the potus
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handle or @realdonaldtrump. >> and it's shaping up to be an historic day. if you add up all those numbers that thomas just reeled off for you in city after city after city, it's a possibility that you could see a march of more than a million people. and originally this was billed as the million woman march, they changed the name out of respect to the original million woman march 20 years ago in philadelphia. but they could wind up having a million women in the streets here just in the united states, and that's not even counting the 60-some-odd countries around the world where people have been marching from early, early morning, i think new zealand might have been the first to come in. i want to bring involuntary manslaughter, who was going to say -- >> this is the new york shot. ali chaeding, the actress we know and love says, announcements have been nuts, there are cops everywhere. there's a policewoman who says we look amazing and please keep moving along on 55th. she said it's an incredible
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energy and she can't describe it. but that's a look at the folks that have turned out in new york city. morgan radford was there, walking and talking along with us when we jumped back here to d.c. for that moment with madonna. folks have been asking, joy, what does this add up to? how many folks have turned out around the country. here in d.c., they were expecting about 200,000. we know it is well more than double that. >> well more than double that. and we saw at the inauguration, you know, people had been putting up those two shots of the sort of sparse attendance at the inauguration. they were expecting, i thought, over 700,000. they got maybe 250,000. there's no official announcement, there aren't official estimates from the parks department. the parks department actually stopp pe ped tweeting, told to e current administration. be the estimates are out of this world amazing. and we've been talking about a lot of the celebrities that are here. we showed you madonna and some of the other celebrities that are talking. let's bring a celebrity that's right here sitting with us on the panel. actor and author, erica
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alexander, or as most of you know her as maxine from "living single." >> maxine! >> but, listen, erica, it is amazing pip mean, there are a lot of celebrities who have lent their voice to this effort. one of the things i think has been so amazing about it is that the celebrities, yourself, madonna, all of you guys are not really centering yourself here. you have really come to support what's happening. why did you make the journey today? >> that's a good question. i was asking myself that and i did it for a lot of reasons. basically, more than 94% of black women voted, i think, for the community. they didn't think about their jobs or when they were getting paid or what they weren't getting. they're obviously overeducated and underpromoted and are last in line for everything. but they thought about everybody. and i wanted to make sure i represented that. i'm proud of black women and i'm proud of being a woman. my father told me i could do anything. and a little disappointed in the
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turnout of, frankly, white women. but i wanted to make sure that i supported all women by coming to this march. and i was hillary clinton's most traveled surrogate. i went all over the country, and they talk about michigan and pennsylvania. i lived in philadelphia. my brother's a philly cop. and miami, people worked hard there. i wanted to honor that. i think that's what's forgotten, is they talk about loss and we talk about loss, but we don't talk about the wins we had and how hard-fought they are and how long people have been fighting. so i came here for my mother, i came here for my mother-in-law and came here to represent, always, women. >> have you had an opportunity to have those conversations? going into the march, i think that was one of the big questions, is that you did have white women still vote -- and white women generally vote republican, i think we should mention. but i think there was this thought that having a woman on the ballot would galvanize white women to vote, you know, for hillary clinton. she did win a bare majority, about 52% of women with college -- white women with college degrees. but have you had the opportunity
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to have those one-on-ones maybe with some women who are here at the march who chose not to vote for hillary clinton? >> no, and i'm glad they don't reveal themselves to me, and i want to be gracious and think about that. because i really do believe that they do harm to themselves. it's a self-sabotaging move, to me. i don't know what to say to them and frankly i think that hillary by her grace and the way that she has embraced this new role for herself as welcoming president trump is a classy move. not there yet. but i really believe that there's something to be learn there had. and i actually also believe that a lot of women did vote in very new places. and it's just a shame that we're talking about the ones that didn't. but that's a whole lot of people. >> erica, we're looking at this shot of atlanta. this is downtown atlanta, right by centennial olympic park. these folks are heading down towards the statehouse there in atlanta.
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this is passed the phillips arena. this is also passed -- i know the parking lot well, of another organization that was based -- that is based in atlanta. so i know this spot. but that's right downtown, as many folks will remember, during the olympics, the atlanta olympics, right there to the left is centennial olympic park. and to the right is the base of the big ferris wheel that they have there now. so that gives you a reference point as folks are traveling towards the phillips arena to travel around and head back up peachtree would be one way for these folks to march. we shall wait and see, but this is stretching all the way down, that's the old parking lot. stretching all the way down. >> how many miles, do you think, is that? >> it just depends on where it begins. this is right downtown in part of atlanta and it's really, really blown up over the last decade, since i lived there in the midtown area, which was about an eight-minute drive from work. but this stretches back all the
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way to the interstate. could be massive. but this would be one of the downtown ways to get into atlanta and also get into downtown proper, where more of the, you know, government buildings are. and to show that sense of unification, as people are marching there. erica, hillary clinton had tweeted, and we know you've got your hillary button on -- >> oh, yeah. >> had tweeted just three hours ago, hope, not fear, indeed, and what a beautiful piece by louisa, she had sent out this, hope, not fear, which is red, white, and blue, a different look of young people who are coming up, of different skin colors, different sizes, and also five hours ago, she tweeted, thanks for standing, speaking, and marching for our values. women's march, important as ever. i truly believe we're always stronger together. are you willing to give president trump a chance? you are a hillary supporter, but are you willing to give him any breathing space to make a
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positive impact or is it really just about fear of what this administration will do? >> i don't think it's just about fear. they're actually doing what they say they're going to do. he started signing things that were more than fear-based, it's real. it's in realtime. i'm a, i think, an open person and i try to be practical. i think it's important to give everybody a so-called chance, but he's politically immature. and there's maturity we all could do. and i think he has to show he matures as well. he has to remember that there are people listening. children are listening, and we're all listening. so, you know, i'm glad to give him a chance, but if he's doing these policies and going to -- there's somebody who approached me today. i thought she was crying, because she wanted to take a picture with me, and she was overwhelmed, my ego, you know, she kept crying. i said, what's wrong? i said, something wrong? she said, they're going to take my health care away. i'm 24 and i need it.
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this is a concierge. she's working the desk and she's afraid somebody's going to take her health care away. what am i supposed to say to that? i had no answer for her. this is not a campaign trail. this is real. nothing i can say. i said, you know what, wii haveo hope they'll look at all the people who may lose it and have a change of heart and really put to work the wheels of power to say, maybe we shouldn't do that. but i had nothing to say to the political immaturity that goes on in this country, when day talk about women -- we all need to bring it up, malcolm x., it's the ballot or the bullet. >> we know the threads of obamacare have already been pulled because of the executive order that was signed yesterday by president trump. we know that during the 2:00 hour, he made that pit stop over at the cia, where he's going to be meeting with the intelligence community. we should be hearing from president trump coming up this hour. stay with us. we're back after this. "when the ship comes in" by the hollies ♪ oh the fishes will laugh as they swim out of the path ♪ ♪ and the seagulls they'll be smilin ♪
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we are back. brian williams here with you. what you're looking at there is cia headquarters in langley, virginia, just off camera, waiting to be introduced is president trump. the first full day of his presidency. first full day as commander in chief of u.s. armed forces. they are talking there in front of the memorial wall for members of the silent service who have given the ultimate sacrifice for the nation's intelligence community. and as soon as he's introduced, we will take his remarks live. it was hoped, by team trump, that director pompeo, the congressman who they have nominated, would be director. would have been approved by today. that did not happen. there's been a deal with congress to work it through. we're going to lay out here and listen to his inauguration and then take his remarks live before we -- his introduction,
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rather, take his remarks live before we return to our live coverage of the marches taking place across the country. >> -- cia. thank you for taking time to join us. it means a great deal that you chose to come to cia on your first full day as president. [ cheers and applause ] >> and it is now my pleasure and privilege to introduce the vice president of the united states, mike pence. [ cheers and applause ] .
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>> thank you. thank you to the acting director, maria park. thank you for 27 years serving the united states of america here at cia. it's a great privilege for me to be with you today. and to have the opportunity to introduce at his first event on his first full day the new president of the united states, donald trump. [ cheers and applause ] as you can imagine, it's deeply humbling for my family and i to find ourselves in this role. i'm grateful for our new president for the opportunity he's given me and the opportunity the american people
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have given us to serve. but it's especially humbling for me to be before all of you today. men and women of character, who have sacrificed greatly and to stand before this hallowed wall, this memorial wall, where we remember 117 who paid the ultimate sacrifice for our freedom, i can assure you, this new president and our entire team recognizes and appreciates the sacrifices of all of the men and women of the intelligence community of the united states of america. [ applause ] i've gotten to know our new president, we've traveled a lot together. when the cameras are off and klieg lights off, i'll tell you two things i know for sure. number one, i've never met anyone more dedicated to the safety and security of the
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people of the united states of america. or anyone who is a greater strategic thinker about how we accomplished that for this nation. in fact, to understand the life of our new president is -- his whole life was strategy. he built an extraordinary success in fact private sector, and i know he's going to make america safe again. and lastly, and lastly, i can honestly tell you, all my years serving in the congress, serving as governor of my home state, traveling across the country and seeing the connection that she made, to men and women who serve and protect in every capacity in this country, i've never met anyone with a greater heart for those who every day in diverse ways protect the people of this nation, through their character and their service and their sacrifice. and so let me say, it is my high honor, and distinct privilege to introduce to all of you the
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president of the united states. [ cheers and applause ] [ cheers and applause ] p >> well, i want to thank everybody, very, very special people. it is true, this is my first stop, officially. we're not talking about the balls, we're not talking about even the speeches, although they did treat me nicely on that speech, yesterday. i always call them the dishonest media, but they treated me nicely. but i want to say that there is nobody that feels stronger about
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the intelligence community and the cia than donald trump. there's nobody. [ applause ] and the wall behind me is very, very special. we've been touring for quite a while. and i'll tell you 29? i can't believe it! oh, 28, but that's amazing. and we really appreciate what you've done in terms of showing us something very special. and your whole group, these are really special, amazing people. very, very few people could do the job you people do. and i want to just let you know, i am so behind you. and i know, maybe, sometimes you haven't gotten the backing that you've wanted and you're going to get so much backing. maybe you're going to say, please don't give us so much
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backing. mr. president, please, we don't need that much backing. but you're going to have that. and i think everybody in this room knows it. you know, the military and the law enforcement generally speaking, but all of it, but the military gave us tremendous percentages of votes. we were unbelievably successful in the election with getting the vote of the military. and probably almost everybody in this room voted for me, but i will not ask you to raise your hands if you didn't. but i would guarantee a big portion. because we're all in the same wavelength, folks. we're all on the same wavelength, right? who knows. took brian about 30 seconds to figure that one out, right? because we know. we're on the same wavelength. but we're going to do great things. we're going to do great things.
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we've been fighting these wars for longer than any wars we've ever fought. we have not used the real abilities that we have. we've been restrained. we have to get rid of isis. we have to get rid of isis. we have no choice. radical islamic terrorism. and i said it yesterday. it has to be eradicated. just off the face of the earth. this is evil. this is evil. and, you know, i can understand the other side. we can all understand the other side. there can be wars between countries, there can be wars, you can understand what happened. this is something nobody can even understand. this is a level of evil that we haven't seen. and you're going to go to it and you're going to do a phenomenal job. but we're going to end it.
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it's time. it's time right now to end it. you have somebody coming on who is extraordinary. you know, for the different positions of secretary of this and secretary of that and all of these great positions, i'd see five, six, seven, eight people. and we had a great transition. we had an amazing team of talent. and by the way, general flynn is right over here. put up your hand, mike. what a good guy. [ applause ] and you know reince. he's like this political guy who turned out to be a superstar. we don't have to talk about reince. but we did. we had just such a tremendous, tremendous success. so when i'm interviewing all of these candidates that reince and his whole group is putting in
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front, it went very, very quickly and in this kaste went so quickly, because i would see six or seven or eight for secretary of agriculture, who we just named the other day, sonny perdue, former governor of georgia, fantastic guy. but i would sigh six, seven, eight people for a certain position. everybody wanted in. but i met mike pompeo, and it was the only guy i met. i didn't want to meet anybody else. i said, cancel everyone else. he was approved, essentially, but they're doing little political games with me. he was one of the three. now, last night, as you know, general mattis, fantastic guy, and general kelly got approved. [ applause ] and mike pompeo was supposed to be in that group. it was going to be the three of them. can you imagine all of these
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guys? people respect -- you know, they respect that military sense. all my political people, they're not doing so well. the political people aren't doing so well, but you. and we're going to get them all through. some will take a little bit longer than others, but mike was literally, i had a group of what -- we have nine different people, now win must say, i didn't mind canceling eight appointments. that wasn't the worst thing in the world, but i met him and he is so good. number one in his class as west point. i know a lot about west point. took me one year -- i'm a person who very strongly believes in academics. every time i say i had an uncle who was a great professor at m.i.t. for 35 years, who did a great job in so many ways, academically. he was an academic genius. and then they say, donald trump, an intellectual. trust me, i'm like a smart person. and i recognized immediately, so he was number one at west point.
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and he was also essentially number one at harvard law school. and then he decided to go into the military. and he ran for congress. and everything he's done has been a home run. people like him. but much more importantly to me, everybody respects him. and when i told paul ryan that i want to do this, i would say, he may be the only person that was not totally thrilled, right, mike? because he said, i don't want to lose this guy. but, you will be getting a total star. you're going to be getting a total gem. this is a gem. and i just -- you'll see. you'll see. and many of you know him anyway. but you're going to see. and, again, we have some great people going in, but this one is
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something, is going to be very special. if i had to name the most important, this would certainly be, perhaps -- and in certain ways, you can say, new most important. you do the job like everyone in this room is capable of doing. there can be -- the generals are wonderful and the fighting is wonderful, but if you give them the right direction, boy, does the fighting become easier. and boy, do we lose so fewer lives and win so quickly. and that's what we have to do. we have to start winning again. you know, when i was young, and when i was -- of course, i feel young. i feel like i'm 30. 35, 39. somebody said, are you young? i said, i think i'm young. you know, i was stopping -- when we were in the final month of that campaign, four stops, five stops, seven stops. speeches, speeches, in front of 25 to 30,000 people.
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15,000, 19,000 from stop to stop. i feel young. but when i was young -- and i think we're all sort of young. when i was young, we were always winning things in this country. we would win with trade, we'd win with wars. and at a certain age, i remember hearing from one of my instructors, the united states has never lost a war. and then, after that, it's like, we haven't won anything. we don't win anymore. the old expression, to the victor belong the spoils. remember, i always used to say, keep the oil. i wasn't a fan of iraq. i don't want to go into iraq. but i will tell you, when we were in, we got out wrong. and i always said, in addition to that, keep the oil. now, i said it for economic reasons. but you think about it, mike, if you keep the oil, you probably wouldn't have isis, because that's where they made their money in the first place, so keep the oil. well, okay, maybe you'll have
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another chance. the fact is, should have kept the oil. i believe that this group is going to be one of the most important groups in this country towards making us safe, towards making us winners again, towards ending all of the problems. we have so many problems that are interrelated, that we don't even think of, but are interrelated to the kind of havoc and fear that this sick group of people has caused. so i can only say that i am with you 1,000% and the reason you're my first stop is that, as you know, i have a running war with the media. they are among the most dishonest human beings on earth. [ cheers and applause ] and they sort of made it sound like i had a feud with the
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intelligence community. and i want to let you know, the reason you're the number one stop is exactly the opposite. exactly. and they understand that too. i was explaining about the numbers, we did a thing yesterday, the speech. did everybody like the speech? you had to -- we had a massive field of people. packed. i get up this morning and turn on one of the networks and they show an empty field. i said, wait a minute. i made a speech, i looked out, the field was -- it looked like a million, a million and a half people. they showed a field where there were practically nobody standing there. and they say, donald trump did not draw well. i said, it was almost raining. the rain should have scared them away, but god looked down and he said, we're not going to let it rain on your speech. in fact -- when i first started, i said, oh, no, first line, i got hit by a couple of drops.
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and i said, oh, this is -- this is too bad. but, boom, go right through it. but the truth is, that it stopped immediately. it was amazing. and then it became really sunny. then i walked off, and it poured right after i left. it poured. but, you know, we have something that's amazing, because we had -- it looked, honestly, it looked like a million and a half people. whatever it was, it was, but it went all the way back to the washington monument. and i turn on -- and by mistake, i get this network. and it showed an empty field. and it said, we drew 250,000 people. now, that's not bad, but it's a lie. we had 250,000 people literally around, you know, in the little bowl that we constructed. that was 250,000 people. the rest of the, you know, the 20-block area, all the way back to the washington monumenmonume packed. so we caught them. and we caught them in a beauty.
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and i think they're going to pay a big price. we had another one yesterday, which was interesting, in the oval office, there's a beautiful statue of dr. martin luther king. and i also happen to like churchill, winston churchill. i think most of us like churchill. doesn't come from our country, but had a lot to do with it. helped us, real ally. and as you know, churchill statue was taken out, the bust. and, as you also probably have read, the prime minister is coming over to our country very shortly and they wanted to know whether or not i would like it back. i said, absolutely, but in the meantime, we have a bust of churchill. so a reporter for "time" magazine, and i have been on their cover like 14 or 15 times. i think we have the all-time record in the history of "time" magazine, like if tom brady's on the cover, it's one time because he won the super bowl or something. i've been on it for 15 times
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this year. i don't think that's a record, mike, that can ever be broken, mike, do you agree with that? what do you think? but i will say that they said, it was very interesting, that donald trump took down the bust, the statue of dr. martin luther king. and it was right there. but there was a cameraman that was in front of it. so zeke, zeke from "time" magazine writes a story about, i took down -- i would never do that. because i have great respect for dr. martin luther king. but this is how dishonest the media is. now, big story, the retraction was like, where? was it a line or do they even bother putting it in. i only like to say that, because i love honesty. i like honest reporting. i will tell you, final time, although i will say it, when you let in your thousands of other
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people who have been trying to come in, because i am coming back, we're going to have to get you a larger room. we may have to get you a larger room. and maybe, maybe it will be built by somebody who knows how to build and we won't have columns. do you understand that? we get rid of the columns. but i just wanted to really say that i love you. i respect you. there's nobody i respect more. you're going to do a fantastic job. and we're going to start winning again and you're going to be leading the charge. so thank you all very much. thank you, beautiful. thank you all very much. have a good time. i'll be back. i'll be back. thank you. [ cheers and applause ] >> donald trump at cia
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headquarters, kind of relitigating the campaign, in part, relitigating the turnout yesterday at his inauguration, in part, saying from his perspective, it looked like a million and a half people. saying, trust me, i'm like a smart person. saying he's been on the cover of "time" magazine 15 times this past election season. talking about a running war with the media and, again, calling the media among the most dishonest people. but mostly to reassure the intelligence community, as he put it, i'm with you a thousand percent. that certainly was not the case as played out on twitter during the leak of intelligence information that we've all just lived through prior to inauguration. we continue to cover today's explosive crowds across the country as part of what was billed as the women's march.
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and while it was initially all the attention was focused on washington, that has certainly not been the case across the country. let's go to lawrence o'donnell, who's standing by in new york and collecting all of what we know, i think, randi weingarten said there were over 600 individual marches in the domestic u.s. today. >> brian, i just came from the march on fifth avenue, which may turn out to be one of the biggest public demonstrations in new york city history. it is already bigger than the previous biggest inauguration protest in history, the biggest inauguration protest in history was against richard nixon's inauguration in 1973. that was 100,000 people in washington, d.c. there was also a multi-city component to that, including internationally. there were protests in london over richard nixon's inauguration. this is much bigger than any of that. we're talking about in washington, d.c. alone, possibly
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500,000 people. five times more than protested against the nixon inauguration. in boston, brian, 125,000 is the estimate in boston alone. that is bigger than what we saw than what we saw against richard nixon 45 years ago. and the surprise here shouldn't be very great. richard nixon was the last president to provoke any significant inauguration protest. yesterday, we inaugurated the most unpopular president on inauguration day in the history of polling, including richard nixon. and so the idea that that would provoke a rather significant demonstration was predictable, especially if you'd been in touch with any of the people i've been in touch with over the last month, where every day i was hearing new anecdotal reports about people who were going, including people, brian, who have not taken to the
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streets in a march since vietnam war protest. and there's a very -- there's a powerful historic element of that today in washington, d.c. john kerry in his first day of unemployment in his adult life was marching, was seen marching, photographed marching in washington, d.c., in this protest march. and he, of course, is a veteran, both of a combat veteran of vietnam and then a veteran of the vietnam veterans against the war movement, where he, himself, john kerry, spent many an hour marching in the streets against the vietnam war, a protest movement that was ultimately successful in ending the vietnam war. >> reporter: lawrence, we're here -- you mentioned boston. we're hearing that public transit systems have been flooded. the "t" in boston, the commuter train in chicago, the new york city subway, depending on where
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people are going and getting off to go aboveground and join this march, and the washington metro reported huge figures before 11:00 a.m. 275,000. of course, everyone's looking for a comparison to yesterday's crowds, with the inauguration. according to the metro system, that was a larger number than they served by that same time yesterday morning. >> it was very clear, the metro reports coming in, we were all seeing them on twitter and elsewhere, people being unable to board trains, because the stations were so crowded, platforms so crowded. and we just heard donald trump's personal estimate of what we thought he saw looking out at his crowd. he estimated his crowd yesterday, he just told this to the cia, he said, "a million, a mall and a ha million and a half." the highest estimates using photographic evidence has been 250,000. and people have been wondering how he would react to that, the
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fact that his crowd was one-fourth the size of president obama's second inaugural, and smaller even than that of president obama's first inaugural and several other inaugural crowds. and we're discovering that the way he reacts to that is simply to tell us what he believes he saw. he also believes, he just told the cia, brian, that he's been on the cover of "time" magazine more than anyone else in history. he said he's been on the cover about 15 times. "time" magazine has already issued a correction to that. the person who's been on the cover of "time" magazine more than anyone else in history was the aforementioned richard nixon, and he was on the cover not only for his inauguration, but also for protests about his inauguration and what really drove "time" magazine covers of richard nixon was the end of his presidency, which was stretched out over about a year, that eventually led to the initiation of impeachment hearings in the
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house of representatives, sbr z enterprising reporting by part-time like carl bernstein, finding out things about this presidency had happened prior to his re-election campaign. and all of that led to the most highly scandalous presidency of the mopdern media age. and that is how a president gets on the cover of "time" magazine more than anyone else. >> lawrence, we're watching, as we talk, these incredible live pictures, all of them from various camera locations, most of them from nbc stations across the country continue this atlanta. we also our usual camera that shows the white house. it is a permanent camera location. always aimed at the white house. in it, you can see the temporary wooden walkway that goes across the north lawn of the white house in the foreground, but in the background, where usually movement of people is not visible, at the base of the
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washington monument, you can see, helped visually, because so many of them have signs, and there's such a migration, these waves of people. we are -- we've been reporting that the park service, a lot of folks in washington, have been taken by surprise by the size of the crowds and some of the public facilities were kind of designed to be used twice, once at the inauguration, once at today's march. today's march, while there will be stories the that emerge from different cities across the country, so far, lawrence, check me here, that everything has been peaceful for the most part. there's -- it was not part of the thesis, the tenor of this, that it would have any acts of violence, correct? >> yes, this is a classically peaceful march, so far. and brian, when i wat i was get out on fifth avenue with that
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crowd was a much more positive feeling than an angry feeling. it was that we are not alone feeling. when you end up on the other -- on the losing side of an election result, it's easy to feel that something's happened in the country that doesn't include you and you get to -- at a certain point, you get to feel a certain sense of aloneness. these people out there today, and there's the shot of fifth avenue right now, these people are really coming together in a kind of collective joy with each other and the sharing of the same feelings. they are sharing fears, but they are also conveying a tremendous amount of positive energy about what they think remains their country and what they think they can continue to hold on to, in things that they care about in their government. and so there's a very -- it's a protest march, and it's definitely filled with a feeling of protest, but it is possibly the most positive one that i've seen.
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the sensation of it is more positive and generous and inclusive than i've seen in many protests. >> lawrence, what is the cross street of this live high picture on fifth avenue? you said that you were just in from it. i know it's massive and stretches for a long time, but do we have a cross street. >> brian, that could be around 49th, could be just south of the cathedral. that's my guess based on some of the things i was seeing with storefronts i was seeing when i was out there. but i can't say that for sure. the target is ultimate -- the end point of it is trump tower. this protest march starts at the united nations and goes south. and they be goes west across 42nd street. and then it goes from 42nd street right up to trump tower, approximately 55th. i'm not sure where the police
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were ending it up there. i was at 50th street and fifth avenue, the corner of st. patrick's cathedral, and being able to take in everything that was happening there for about an hour and a half. and you'll see, brian, that you don't really see mooucvement th now. it's because fifth avenue and all the way down is like a crowded subway car. like everyone decided to get on the subway at the same time. it's the most slow-moving march i've seen for the same reason in washington, at a certain point, they said, you're not going to be able to march at all, because there's so many of you. there's nowhere for you to put your foot forward. there's someone standing where you want to put your foot forward. it was so jammed, that they believed for a while that they wouldn't be able to move or march at all. and on fifth avenue, it was the slowest walk down fifth avenue you've ever seen. by the way, brian, a lot of kids in strollers, infants being carried by their parents,
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grandmothers with their grandchildren, a lot of toddlers on their father's and mother's shoulders, looking over the crowd. so, that's what i mean about it being a very -- it's a very family-friendly environment, where you don't get the slightest sensation of any kind of tension or risk to anyone there. >> all right. lawrence o'donnell, for folks who don't know the contours and cross vetostreets of new york, won't make much sense, but trust us, it covers a lot of real estate and those are some packed streets. let's go to kelly o'donnell at the white house. kelly, first thing's first. i understand we'll have a statement later, but i also understand the president, as he departed, and they went by motorcade over to langley, virginia, correct? he saw the fringes of some of these crowds over the potomac. >> reporter: a small group of reporters that rotate and represent all of us known as the travel pool, they share that
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information with the rest of us and say that when the president left the white house, he did have an opportunity to see some of the crowds. they moved quickly to get into virginia. but i can tell you, brian, you've worked in this very spot. you can understand how small these 18 acres can feel. and while i'm hearing the protest in my ear with the earpiece, i'm also hearing them coming over from behind the white house in a way that is not typical. i have witnessed many protests right in front of the white house, and you can hear the banging of drums, that kind of thing. but there's a different quality to this, i think because of the scale and the relative probation kp similarity. these waves of sound. that means when the president returns in just a short while from the cia, he will be able to hear that from inside the white house. whether he sees it or not, it will be audible to him at his new home. at 4:30, we're told the new white house press secretary, sean spicer, will have an announcement. we have not yet been given any
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early guidance as to what subject matter that might be. we will keep you informed on that, as soon as we know. and of course, the appearance of the president at the cia. it was a complex sort of set of comments. reliving yesterday, some relitigating, as you described, and also trying to extend a hand not intelligence community, after he has made some comments that former leadership, the former cia director who left with the exit of the obama administration, director brennan, he had taken such offense of the idea that leaking might have been done by the intelligence community and the president had used the always problematic comparison of ever raising or invoking anything related to nazi germany. and that really offended brennan, who is no longer there. and acting cia director was in place to welcome the president and vice president today. first official act outside of the traditional inaugural events, which included the prayer breakfast this morning. so trump was trying to tell the
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ic, the intelligence community, that his choice among first things to do in a public way was to go to the cia and to visit with them. will that be enough to smooth things over? we probably won't ever really get to hear, given the nature of the over, we probably won't get to hear given the nature of the work they do. he will in some way, shape or form encounter the crowds. might be able to see it and hear it and certainly be briefed on the status of this today and we expect some news at 4:30. we'll keep you updated on what that will be. >> kelly o'donnell at the white house, thanks. let's bring in joy reid and thomas roberts. those who were watching our coverage earlier today. saw their coverage from washington and there's several different stories wrapped up in one. number one, the explosive crowd size, the fact that this has just exploded from coast to coast, number two, the size of the central march in washington.
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and number three, frankly, when's been said from the podium. some of it shocking. some of it predictable. some of it objectionable. michael moore's sound bite from today has already emerged, joy, as one of the things people are featuring in which he called for sweeping out the old guard of the democratic party. >> yeah. and i think that some of the energy that you are seeing here, brian, is an energy that, quite frankly, you did not see ahead of the election and the opportunity to elect the first woman president. that's not been lost on lots of people and talked to here. we spoke earlier with actress erica alexander and had a sense of looking out at a march loudly white women and saying where were you at the time it was time to elect a woman president and seeing the reporters talking to millennials part of the crowds, they didn't feel some of them moved by hillary clinton's
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message to be galvanized in the way they were in 2008. but i'll tell you, brian, if having a woman on the ballot, certainly the election of donald trump has. we're looking at the local papers are reporting. in idaho, just look at the red states right now. idaho statesman reporting 5,000 women to rally there. a state that way for trump. 1,000 people showed up in fargo, north dakota. can't be much warmer there than here. arizona, 20,000 people marched in phoenix. chicago tribune saying 250,000 people there. austin, texas, even reporting 40,000 people marching in the capital. downtown miami reporting 10,000 people we're also hearing that the i-395 shut down. looking at portland, oregon, right now. tampa/st. pete, the tampa bay
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times estimating 20,000 people there in the i-4 corridor. when you add all this up, brian, you are telling well over potentially 1 million people, literal million woman march, you know, the borrow the name of the march 20 years ago that have marched around this country and even more than that when you add those who have marched in more than 60 countries around the world, all 50 states and antarctica. i think you have to say that donald trump is not just a republican who's elected president. this didn't happen when the bushes got elected. this wouldn't have happened if jeb bush or if ted cruz was elected. it is trump's message himself. it is something about the way he speaks about women, he talks about his own daughter, the flippant way he talks about women and sexuality. the sense of devaluing the bodies of women, of degrading them. and just the idea that he can get away with it. i think that shocked the consciences of women and i'll
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say just in closing there couldn't have been a starker juxtaposition. i wish we had the physical one to see it. i tweeted one out of donald trump inside of the cia headquarters at langley giving essentially his stump speech to 300 members of that body. not even mentioning his own controversies with the cia and its director. at the same time half a million women on the streets here in d.a. not far from where he was standing and not mentioning a word of it. not tweeting about it. pretending it's not happening. it's hard i can understand he doesn't know it's happening and fascinating he hasn't said anything. >> we'll hear from sean spicer over at the white house and i think he will have to reference it. joy, we have about a minute 30 remaining until a mandatory break and the natural question is, how do you convert it? what's it convertible into? how does it become politics which is the coin of the realm? >> well, you also heard michael
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moore call on people to get on the phone and call their united states senators and ask them to say no to betsy devos, a big galvanizing figure coming into the trump administration and saying no to her as education secretary. saying a huge ground swell in the civil rights community and around the country from the moral mondays movement to supporters in georgia and civil rights leader, reverend sharpton in new york. you are seeing a call and a human cry to say no to jeff sessions. and people can pick up and call the senators and hearing people from erica alexander, and others say, people need to run for office and vote. there are midterm elections next year in 2017 in virginia and in new jersey, governors races and local races and we'll get a chance to test whether this kind of energy translates into votes. there are more women than men in the united states. if women voted with more unanimity, voting the way african-americans do, latinos do
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with unanimity, you could change this country and you could make sure that another donald trump doesn't get elected not just for president but for governor, for state rep and senator, for mayor, city council person and lies, male allies to do that if they wanted to and we'll see if they do it. >> joy reid, thank you. we hear the con coughny of sirens in washington, d.c. they have the typical number of emergencies and emergency services are struggling with all of it. we'll take a break here and after the top of the hour, we begin the countdown to this statement from sean spicer at the white house. our continued live coverage of these marches across the country when we continue. liberty mutual stood with me when i was too busy with the kids to get a repair estimate. liberty did what? yeah, with liberty mutual all i needed to do to get an estimate was snap a photo of the damage and voila!
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