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we once thought the duty of citizens to show up for elections and step back into your own world and vaguely keep track of what's happening. i get the feeling the election of donald trump and the way he won that election is going to change all that. i think people are going to pay attention to what goes on the next four years but also get into the act themselves. we are about to flex our first amendment muscles. don't you think? that's "hardball" for now. catch me sunday when i'll be chuck todd's guest on "meet the press." our special coverage on msnbc continues now with brian williams. good evening and thanks to chris matthews for today's special of "hardball." we'll take a look at what has been by any standard of measurement a remarkable day across this country from washington to the west and really started out as a
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remarkable day around the world. this was just part of the crowd earlier today in washington, d.c. we've been cautioned against crowd estimates certainly measured in the hundreds of thousands. when it's all added up, from washington to new york, to chicago on west where some of the marches, protests, rallies are still going on, it's millions of people in the streets of this country today. you saw fifth avenue in new york. this was chicago, illinois. at some points because we were able to take these aerial pictures over chicago, people filled the entire frame top to bottom, right to left. especially because of the way the crowd was concentrated on this unusually balmy winter day in chicago. the protests were still going on, despite rain in san francisco that started in the afternoon hours and continued to fall after nighttime fell there.
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los angeles also saw huge crowds but in cities and towns all across the country and we woke up to pictures from paris, rome, barcelona, melbourne, australia is the latest to launch a protest as well. jacob rascon starts us off on the mall in washington. i was watching you with chris matthews in effect running out of adjectives to describe the size and scale and scope of what you witnessed there today. >> and i think, brian, looking at all of these signs that have been left on the ellipse just in front of the white house shows you the variety of reasons for which the hundreds of thousands of women and, of course, also some men and children, came to march on the capitol. we're talking about women's equality, equal pay, climate change, immigrant rights and so many other things. but what united all of them,
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they said, was this belief that there were others like them who were upset about in of the things that president trump has done or said. and many of them that we talked to had journeyed from very as far. they'd taken road trips, missed work, missed school. they were so inspired to see so many people with them, and they know, in their words, this is just the beginning. they say they're now going to go home. they're going to talk to their elected officials there. they're just going to be aware of all of this as they move forward. we did talk to several people who also said that they want to be optimistic about president trump. they want to believe that he might see some of this and take it into account as he speaks to the american people, as he works on different policies. that he'll remember these demonstrations in what he does and what he says.
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that is the hope of many of them. others said they had not -- not that they didn't have that hope but that they would continue to resist and make their voices heard. a stunning, though, display here. and not just here but all over the national mall and the ellipse. >> jacob, thank you very much. what a scene. that's the -- just the aftermath there tonight. what was billed as the women's march but quickly as it got under way organically, we could tell it was going to feature a whole lot of children, a whole lot of men, a whole lot of families and that was the case across the country. the size and scale of the march in new york city surprised even the organizers there. it became a huge local news story in new york as it just continued to take over real estate. again, i can't emphasize to you how big that crowd is on fifth avenue. normally traffic goes in the
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opposite direction. this flow went on for hours. they were vocal. they were relentless. and underneath the camera where it is is trump tower where the crowd was then funneled out into side streets. but this kept going until tonight when the nypd finally had to open up fifth avenue to traffic. it is a very different scene now. correspondent morgan radford was there all day. morgan, while this didn't get out of hand, organizers had to make some quick decisions as to some route changes and just where to put everybody in a finite city. >> brian, that's right because this frankly was a crowd larger than anyone anticipated or expected. this wrapped up about two hours ago in front of trump tower but began on first avenue by the other trump tower just in front of the united nations. wooefr been travel with them for 13 hours as they marched. we started here at about 7:30
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this morning. we saw a few people trickling in. and at 10:30 you saw crowds in full force. by 1:30 in the afternoon, already 60,000 people had been in the streets. and again, they just finished now. and, brian, we heard from jacob who talked about some of the diversity of thought among these protesters. that's what i found particularly interesting. you were seeing signs that said things like, he's not my president. when i approached one of the protesters and said, but he is. this is donald trump. he is your president currently. why have you chosen to demonstrate? why now? one woman grew up in the '60s and was only about 15 at the time when the civil rights movement was really coming to its full force. she said then i didn't feel like i had a big enough voice and now i do and now i must use it. we heard a lot of the women. we saw men and children but entire generations of women within the same families who said the point is to show we're stand with the people who felt like they were marginalized by
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president trump's comments. and the point isn't to get him out of the white house. we know that's not a possibility at this moment, but it's to show emotion, solidarity and it's also, which i found interest, it was about sending a message to those recently confirmed cabinet members. if we see hate in this administration, we're going to show you how quickly and how powerfully we can mobilize. brian? >> this almost looked like a counterinauguration yes this country today and we can't point out enough this was on day one, the first full day of the trump presidency. let's talk about the politics of this. joining us by telephone because she's in washington having just returned from the march is the veteran democratic california congresswoman maxine waters. a 14-term member of congress who was part of the march today. congresswoman, we can't emphasize enough this was peaceful. i'm told the only place where tempers got a little hot, where
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there was a spark in the air was outside the trump hotel on the mall in washington briefly. and here's what i wanted to ask you. "the new york times" subhead at this hour is hints of a sustained campaign of protest. what, to you, did today mean? what happens to this now? >> well, i think that the size of the march here in washington and, of course, what went on all over the country must have sent a message to donald trump and his advocates. they must know that this is unusual and that something very important happened. that people came to washington, d.c. they paid their way on airplanes and buses and trains and put themselves up in hotels and with friends because they are concerned about the direction of
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this country. about the uncertainty and the fear that he has created in the way that he's conducted himself. and i can't help but know, no matter how much he may try and dismiss it, maybe try and say that the press is wrong in its estimation about how many people were out there, this clearly was a message that resounded around the world. >> we're going to talk about the president's words and his behavior later on in this broadcast. one thing i left out at the top of the broadcast was the president's appearance at cia headquarters, and then the president dispatching his press secretary to the press room for a scorching of the news media. congresswoman, is it fair to ask where all these people were november 8th? >> well, yes. i guess you have to think about
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the entire circumstances around this election because so much is misunderstood. and i don't know if, you know, the people who were there represented certain areas of the country. i don't know if everybody voted and they absolutely believed they had to do something now that he has been sworn in as president. but whatever. whatever happened or did not happen during the election or at the election time, they sent a message today. it was profound. absolutely. i walked from the beginning of the -- of the march all the way past the white house, all the way down to 17th street. and i listened to the words that were being said by individuals and the signs that were being carried, and i think people are
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convinced that in order to save our democracy, to protect our democracy and help guide what direction this country is going in, they had to be there today. they had to do this. and they had a chat that they said basically this was not just one time. that it was going to go on. >> this may break the record for the number of people out in public on city streets, on any given day in this country. a record that i am guessing goes back to the time of the vietnam war. the difference then is, it was converted. it did bring about change. it made for a lot of trouble in washington, just as today did. but you're up against a formidable opponent. a newly elected president who was the victor in the electoral college. >> that is true.
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and i think donald trump will be difficult to influence and change. but i think these investigations that are going to go on in washington, d.c., are going to reveal information about him that's going to cause him to either change or the congress of the united states will have to move on him. >> congresswoman maxine waters from california, thank you very much. after the day you spent out on the pavement in washington, for joining us by telephone tonight. we're going to fit in our first break here. when we come back, we're going to tell you what's behind this other "new york times" headline tonight. "with false claims, trump hits media on crowd turnout." the president and his spokesman today were trying to relitigate the size of the crowd yesterday at the inauguration. we'll look at the facts. we'll look at the photographic
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photographs of the inaugural proceedings were intentionally framed in a particular way to minimize the enormous support that had gatherod the national mall. this was the largest audience to witness an inauguration, period. both in person and around the globe. >> when i say this was an extraordinary saturday in the life of america, certainly in the life of the year 2017, that is in part what i was talking about. while hundreds of thousands of americans were on city streets across this country, in part of an organized rally, a march, a protest, that happened in the white house briefing room. that was sean spicer, the new incoming white house press secretary. that followed remarks by the president that we'll get to later in this broadcast. but he essentially was relitigating the crowd estimates and the reporting on the
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inauguration yesterday, include, you heard there, criticizing a particular tweet of the vast universe on social media. so we asked cal perry to get our arms around the known facts and known photography, including crowd estimates from yesterday. cal is our msnbc senior news editor. cal, have at it. >> so just for viewers at home. why do we not have an official number? the reason is the national park service stopped doing it after the million man march in 1995. let's put up the quote. due to the difficulty in accurately assessing crowd estimates for large events, we're not doing it anymore. okay. let's play now a bite from sean spicer at that same press conference. he talks about the numbers. take a listen. >> we know that 420,000 people used the d.c. metro public transit yesterday which compares to 317,000 that used it for president obama's last
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inaugural. >> sean spicer there is comparing two different numbers. he's comparing apples with oranges. let's put up the numbers from the past four inaugurations. this is metro riders as of 11:00 a.m. for each of the past four inaugurations. he cited there that 317,000 number. that was tang at 11:00 a.m. at 11:00 a.m. yesterday, there were 193,000 people who had ridden metro. he's using a number for the full day. we don't know where he's getting that number. what we do know is those are the facts from the d.c. metro. the other indication is of bus permits. look at the number of permits requested for this inauguration in comparison to the women's march and obama's 2009 inauguration. 393 bus permits for trump's inauguration. 1200 for the women's march and for barack obama's 2009 inauguration, 3,000.
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you mentioned twitter. let's show you my account at 10:00 a.m. i was out there all day. the reason i was not taken live is because there was nobody there. this was shortly before 10:00 a.m. on seventh street looking back towards the washington monument. you see that white tent there. that was the media village in the shadow of the washington monument looking back towards the capitol. another tweet here from me just about an hour later from that media village looking back towards the capitol. this is 45 minutes before president trump was sworn in. another thing that sean spicer said here while we're fact checking and not talking about the major marches that took place across the country he said there had not been covering on the mall. that white cover that almost looked like it snowed in d.c. it has been used before. we have a tweet from a cnn reporter in 2013. there is that white cover. the only thing i'd like to add
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is there were protests in berlin, london, paris and cape town. i've spent the majority of my career since 2003 covering unsavory governments in unsavory governments in places where freedom of the press is not valued. we're not there yet. i'm not saying that the trump administration is an authoritarian government at all. what i'm saying is this is out of that playbook. when there's a story that you want the media to not cover you throw that random hand grenade that doesn't have to do with anything and you get them covering something else and you do it without taking questions from the media. n sean spicer came into the briefing room today and made these statements, lambasted the media. saying we reported it wrong. and he walked out without taking any questions. it will be interesting to see, of course, how this develops. we hear time and time again -- >> if anything, the opening salvo came from the president over at cia headquarters.
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the subject of part of the remainder of our broadcast. cal perry with the known set of facts about what we witnessed yesterday, including that white ground covering, the plastic designed to protect the mall from all the pedestrians. we were careful to mention it as part of our coverage yesterday because visually it can tend to make a crowd look more sparse. cal, thanks. another break for us. we're back with more on this extraordinary saturday. but my bs making it hard to sleep and open up on time. then i found aleve pm. the only one to combine a sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. now i'm back. aleve pm for a better am.
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yesterday at a time when our nation and the world was watching the peaceful transition of power, and as the president said, the transition and the balance of power from washington to the citizens of the united states, members -- some members of the media were engaged in deliberately false reporting. the president is committed to unifying our country and that was the focus of his inaugural address. this kind of dishonesty in the media, the challenging and bringing about our nation together is making it more difficult. there's been a lot of talk about the responsibility to hold donald trump accountable. and i'm here to tell you it goes two ways. we're going to hold the press
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accountable as well. >> that right there is the new white house press secretary sean spicer. and that right there doesn't happen until and unless the press secretary is sent to the briefing room by the president, which was the case today as they continue to relitigate the crowd size and reporting about yesterday's inauguration. as donald trump had pledged it would be the biggest crowd ever. that was spoken while hundreds of thousands of people as you see on the other side of this screen were on the streets of cities across this country and for that matter around the world. let's talk about this. the media ramifications. nbc news capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell was on duty today at the white house in the briefing room. eli, white house correspondent for politico and our old friend jim warren, longtime washington
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bureau chief for the "chicago tribune." these days for the pointer institute and for "vanity fair." welcome to you all. kelly, i have to hear your firstperson perspective. you were there in the front row. this was really the first sit-down, formal appearance by the new press secretary in the briefing room, and this happened. >> brian, the official first briefing is supposed to be monday so your assessment that this impromptu event happened at what we perceive to be the direct request of the president certainly lines up with how things are usually done. and sean spicer is a veteran of gop communication and it felt like he was sent out there. this was delayed about an hour from the time that the advisories, the official, this is going to happen memo that went out to those of us working here at the white house today. that additional hour made us wonder, well, what are they working on? are they doing more research? i almost felt perhaps the president would walk into the briefing room himself.
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instead his words came through sean spicer. and that's the job of the press secretary to be the voice of the president. and you could almost feel it today in the tension in that room. especially because the facts that were laid out according to sean spicer as you just in your last segment, there are disputes about those facts. those don't line up with the perceptions that people had by witnessing things and the other research they've been able to pull together. certainly criticism of how things are reported is expected. that's part of the vigorous back and forth that happens. but there's usually also a chance for us to ask questions. now they did say this was a statement, not a press briefing. and that is a distinction that could be important in this instance. but we wanted to ask about the women's march and the crowds that you can actually hear from here at the white house. and spicer left the lectern and did not take any questions. and it does sort of set up on day one before the official briefing schedule even begins, a line has been thrown down that
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reporting from tweets or pool reports or official articles, statements, broadcasts, are all subject to getting the briefing room treatment and critique from both the president and his top spokesman. earlier today at the cia, the president called out a reporter by his first name, referencing some reporting he had done in the newly renovated oval office. and he did that in front of secret service employees who may not have even been aware of it. but the president used that moment to go after, by name, a single reporter who made a fact error and then corrected it. that fact error also sets up this opportunity for the trump white house to show that mistakes happen. but they assigned a motive saying there was deliberate and intentional underreporting of the crowd size in order to undercut the trump inaugural and to suggest that there isn't support for the new president.
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brian? >> eli, first of all, again, congratulations on your new job title. and second, from you, i need a definition. for people and only 20% of our country, god bless them, is on twitter. for people who aren't familiar with the nomenclature of social media, what is gaslight, and how in your view are we being gas lit? >> it's a complicated term that comes from an old movie, but it's sort of psy-ops. when someone is telling you something that's untrue but does it in a way that convinces you to question the reality you see right in front of your own eyes and that you are experiencing with your own senses. and i think that is, you know, a tactic we've seen from trump's campaign and will continue to see into this white house. a lot of times they are disputing a reality that is evident and plain for all to see. the attention we're paying to these crowds and the
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side-by-side of today's marches and yesterday's attendance, they are drawing more attention to that than there already was just by coming out and issuing that kind of statement tonight. and i think that it just -- part of the reason people were out there marching today is that one of the things that has offended them about donald trump is the ease with which we doesn't tell the truth. the ease with which he lies about things that are easily provable as lies. at the cia, he told the cia officers that i never attacked you. the media just said i'm having a feud with you. there are tweets and video of statements donald trump made just a week ago likening the intelligence community to using the tactics he said of nazi germany. these are all outthere for everyone to see. the crowd count today versus yesterday. it's there for everyone to see. and i think there are real consequences beyond just the impact on the press. the whole country is going to at some point need to be able to trust the credibility of not
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just the president but the white house press secretary when they walk into the room and tell the country that something bad has happened, that we're in a crisis and if they lie this easily and brazenly, there are going to be a lot of people who don't believe what they say. and that is a problem that goes beyond politics. >> jim warren, the pictures from your hometown of chicago, illinois, today, just from chicago, are stunning. if this rally, this protest movement that we saw today has the potential to exceed in size the social movements of the '60s and '70s, then what we saw in the briefing room today has the ability to exceed and was reminiscent of the ron ziegler era under richard nixon. >> we're dating ourselves there, but you're right. and talk about the nixon era. we're talking on a saturday night. we have our version of a saturday night massacre, but this is an attempt at demolition
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of the press corps. as it is so self-evident and i suspect eli and kelly would agree that the battle plan is a make those folks in that room, including kelly, including eli sort of an opposition party. and to exploit the fact that our collective approval rating, our own collective approval ratings are very low as we know. so they are going to try to hammer away at every single mistake. but this obsessiveness that we've seen again during the campaign and of late, be it attacking arnold schwarzenegger or attacking the media with ratings, with pollings and now with the demonstrably false, as eli suggested, assertions about crowd size yesterday. it's quite remarkable. i'm sure certainly kelly, who has got as much experience and you cannot vaguely remember a setting like that in the press room today where somebody came out in such an arguably sort of
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tacky, whiney, combative fashion and didn't even have the spine to take a single question after doing a 180 after about five minutes and 26 seconds and exiting. >> but, jim, i am looking at how our journalism is changing. and, really, with alarming speed. i said earlier the headline in "the new york times" tonight reads, with false claims, trump hits media on crowd turnout. they called what happened in the briefing room today an irate scolding, and they called what trump did today, which we're getting to in the next segment, a remarkably bitter attack. so there's a massive effort, and those of us who use language to change the language and drop the usual politeness. >> and this is the paper record. this remains our greatest, i think, journalistic product. for anybody, the few out there still getting the print edition for about a grand a year, it's
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quite amazing and the multiplicity and sophistication of subjects that it takes on. so it is remarkable. and what you should also know that about an hour or so ago, i wrote a piece for the pointer institute on and very quickly, folks tweeting upset with me because i did not use the word lied. i did not use the word falsehoods in describing what trump and spicer did today. so to the extent that the old gray lady, "the new york times," is altering its rhetorical methodology, it's also reflecting a sense out there among a growing percentage of americans that we should perhaps, you know, so to speak, call a spade a spade sometimes. >> and eli, i noted today donald trump took a stab at denying the rain yesterday in this attempt to relitigate crowd estimates. he's defending the event and
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seemed to be saying today that there wasn't rain during the speech when yesterday, social media had a heck of a time with the still photos of president bush 43 having a fight with a clear plastic poncho that were handed out while the president spoke along with some umbrellas. >> yeah, that's right. and the rain did serve as a convenient excuse for why the crowd might have been smaller. but the obsessiveness with the crowd size. normal administration, i think, everyone up to this point you'd expect that, one, this wouldn't be an issue if they made any statement about the protest today. would have been something about we respect people's right under the first amendment to protest and nothing more than that. that is not this new administration's style. it's true, donald trump needs the media to be a foil because hillary clinton is gone. low energy jeb and little marco, they are long gone and there's no real foil that has emerged yet in the democratic congress for him. so the media right now is it.
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his approval rating right around 40%. maybe lower than that and may be headed further south. what does he do to try to hold himself up? tries to weaken the other people out there as foils, and that's clearly what he's going to continue to try to do with the media. >> to our friends, eli, kelly and jim, thank you. we're going to invite you back as this obviously is just getting under way. thanks so very much for joining us on a saturday night. another break for us. when we come back, what happened today at cia headquarters in langley, virginia, while the streets of so many cities in this country were full of hundreds of thousands of people? ordinary tissues left dakota's nose sore and red. so dad slayed the problem with puffs plus lotion, instead. with lotion to soothe and softness to please. a nose in need deserves puffs, indeed.
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i know maybe sometimes you haven't gotten the backing that you've wanted, and you're going to get so much backing. maybe you're going to say, please don't give us so much backing. as you know, i have a running war with the media.
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they are among the most dishonest human beings on earth. and they sort of made it sound like i had a feud with the intelligence community. and i just want to let you know, the reason you're the number one stop is exactly the opposite. >> that was donald trump today in langley, virginia, at the cia headquarters. worth noting that he had to pass going and coming elements of the protest in the streets today and could hear it inside the white house. but high got over to the cia headquarters. it's very much worth noting what he's in front of there. that is the wall with 117 stars. that is to commemorate the 117 cia veterans, the members of the silent service as they are called who have given their lives for their country. that wall has been called the arlington of langley, virginia,
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of the cia headquarters. let's talk about this appearance today with jeremy bash, the former chief of staff to the cia director and the former chief of staff to the head of the pentagon. and ken delaney who covers intelligence and national security for us. jeremy, he chose this appearance to relitigate the crowd size yesterday, to attack the press. how is that going to go over? >> well, it was a nice gesture for the president to show up there, but it did veer off course for two reasons. number one, he said we invented isis and we're going to go back and take their oil again. and that's really dangerous because we have intelligence officers who are going out trying to recruit assets, trying to work with people in the middle east. and they're going to say in return, you guys invented isis, or so your president said and you're going to come back and take our oil. that's going to make our job harder. second, this is hallowed ground.
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and i think back to the time i was at the agency on december 30th, 2009, when we lost darryn and harold and jennifer and liz and scott and dane and an officer named jeremy. seven officers killed in eastern afghanistan working on a counterterrorism operation when the worst days for the agency in its history. i went to many of their funerals and they are there in that book of honor and their stars are there on the wall. and to stand there and talk about, you know, crowd sizes and how many times you've been on the cover of "time" magazine really went over like a lead balloon. >> indeed represented by stars because in so many cases their names can't be used because they served in silence but those stars also represent the two men killed at benghazi. they represent the first american who died in afghanistan after 9/11. ken delaney, president trump said the media make it sound as if i had a feud with the
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intelligence community. we watched it play out both on videotape and on twitter. looking back at his own twitter feed, it's all right there when he conflated them with the behavior in nazi germany. intelligence agencies should never have allowed this fake news to leak into the public. are we living in nazi germany? and he didn't stop there. again, said a lot of this on camera as well. the intelligence briefing on so-called russian hacking was delayed until friday. perhaps more time needed to build a case. very strange. released by intelligence even knowing there's no proof. never will be. my people will have a full report on hacking within 90 days. and so on and so on. including an attack on brennan, the former leader at cia. and, ken, this didn't go over there with brennan. >> no, it didn't, brian. actually brennan spokesperson gave a statement to andrea mitchell calling it a despicable
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display of self-aggrandizement and saying trump should be ashamed of himself. you are absolutely right. it's there in black and white. now trump may be able to -- may believe that he was actually feud with the leaders of the intelligence community, john brennan and jim clapper, who were appointed by president obama, but he departmeidn't mak clear. he made clear their mistakes over wmd in iraq. and this was an attempt to reassure the workforce but as jeremy said, in a sense, it backfired. not everyone believes it backfired. there are cia officers who asked to be there who cheered donald trump as he left after the remarks. i talked to one former official source of mine, long experienced operator who said you guys just don't get this man is not like other presidents. and so he's going to be like this. he's going to be unscripted and that was not a problem. him going to meet these people
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was a good thing. but it's just the nature of these remarks, rambling, self-reverential, unscripted in front of this memorial, in front of these stars was striking. president obama, his first visit to the cia in april 2009, he gave a very scripted, very careful speech where he talked about him needing the agency and asked them to go to work for him. and talked a little bit about the history of the cia and nature of the wall. there was none of that from donald trump today. >> and i was there on april 20th, 2009, when president obama visited langley, his first trip there. what was very interesting about that visit wasn't was what he said. i was in the room when a senior officer stood up and said to the new president, mr. president, you are rolling back interrogation plolicies. talking about disclosing things we did under the previous administration. we want to make sure you understand and you get that we are in the fight offer lives. that al qaeda is dangerous. do you kind of get what we're up
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against? i think at that point it really sunk in for the new president. i'm hoping president trump received some feedback today from the officers out there about how serious their job is, how important that he take them seriously and that he have their back. >>. >> i remember the first time i came through that lobby. that wall has a way of silencing people. you turn and look at it, and it is revered and hallowed. it also represents, as do all the employees in langley, they are working in service to the people in the field. that's what the agency means. it's the work of the agency. >> yes, exactly right. and he's actually standing there looking out across the marble lobby at a statue of bill donovan, the fiounder of the os and a quote from john from the new testament chapter 8. and ye shall know the truth, and
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the truth shall set you free. and it's the motto, and they believe in facts. and any person, any leader, any president who doesn't accept their facts, accept their assessments is going to have an inevitable clash, collision with people who ground their work in facts. >> jeremy bash, ken, gentlemen, thank you for joining us on a saturday night for this discussion. very important. very vital. we appreciate your time. another break for us. when we come back, we'll look once again at our lead story. what did we witness today? what happened today across this country and around the world? indeed the potential to be the largest social movement since the '60s and '70s. [burke] at farmers, we've seen almost everything,
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so many people. we cannot sit idly by and let hate dominate our national conversation. it just can't be. >> so much seems skewed about what i believe in and what i understand to be america, and i wanted to come up and say hey, i believe something different and i'm still part of this country. >> we should be doing something sooner instead of having to react we should more proactive. that's what has to happen for things to change. >> we can't sit back and act like oh, he won, we don't have to do any more now, it's over. this has to be our start, not our finish. >> if you don't do something, you voted for him. >> demonstrations and their size and scope beyond the wildest dreams of even the organizers of today. what does it all mean? our discussion coming up.
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we are back and this was the day we witnessed.
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much more than just a split screen day across this country. millions of people on the streets of major cities and small towns across this country, and more than that, around the world. the march that started with a concentration on washington, d.c. and new york. before americans were even up this morning, it had already played out in overseas capitals like london, rome and paris and as the time zones went west, we saw it in mexico city as we saw it along the united states west coast. the historian doug brinkley who is not given to hyperbole said tonight that watching the president's remarks and performance over at cia headquarters, he acted like a 7-year-old child and that his behavior was troubling and worrisome. but let's talk about what we saw unfold in the streets, especially of this country
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today. corinne jean-pierre is with us, veteran of democratic politics. i quoted this to congresswoman maxine waters at the top of the broadcast. the "new york times" is saying tonight in its sub head, hints of a sustained campaign of protest. can you confirm? do you call for this to be a sustained campaign of protest? >> well, here's what i would say, brian, to that. in his divisive and talking about donald trump, in his divisive inaugural speech yesterday, he talked about giving the power back to the people. well, today the people responded and now they have a movement. what they're doing is they are standing up against every horrible ism that donald trump stands for and the other thing to remember, too, is he's not the people's president.
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we see this with the record low approval ratings for an incoming president. so today was historical on so many levels. we have been talking about how this is the first time we see an inaugural protest that is so large, that is in 600 cities, in seven continents, millions of people are now activated and ready to go out there and do something and i think we'll see that. i don't think it stops with today. i think in the next couple days we will see people going out there, having community meetings and also continuing to hold protests because we have to make sure that our voices are heard and that we keep donald trump's feet to the fire. >> but as i asked the congresswoman earlier, i think it's a fair question to ask of you. where were you all november 8th? >> i agree. i think that's a very good question. i think we were complacent. i think there was a sense of we
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got this in the bag and we didn't come out the way that we should have. also, let's not forget as well, there was a toxic brew that was happening as well which was as we know, the russian hacking, the wikileaks, the dnc e-mails, voter suppression in key states, north carolina, wisconsin and other states as well. so a lot of things led to what we saw on november 8th but yes, we were complacent and i think what needs to happen now moving forward, the call to action is do what president obama said. pick up a clipboard. we have an election in 2018. i think we need people to go out there and run themselves and make sure that we show up for the midterms. >> would you name the next one the women's march despite its name, it sure gathered a lot of men and children and families today in the nation's big cities. >> it sure did. it was very diverse.
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you saw as you mentioned, men, you saw diversity with age, grandmothers came, bringing their kids. you had 3 month old, 2-year-olds out there with their family. i would, what i'm hearing is every ten days there might be a protest. that's the word that i'm hearing. i do believe that this is a broader part, bigger part, it's going to be a bigger part of a movement that we'll be seeing in the future. >> karine, thank you very much for being with us tonight after this incredible day. we will continue to look at these pictures as we kind of assess what we all witnessed across this country today. again, the main location always was going to be washington, d.c. but once we got into the morning, with americans having arisen to scenes of what had happened already in europe, then it took off across new york
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city. it went way beyond the boundaries that organizers had established. we saw it reach out into the pacific northwest. we saw it reach north to boston, west to chicago, further west to san francisco and los angeles and by midday, eastern time, the organizers knew they were looking at something absolutely extraordinary. indeed, what could be, what has the potential to be the largest kind of coming forth in organized social activity since the '60s and '70s. lawrence o'donnell standing by in new york to continue our special prime time coverage. as i keep saying, this was an extraordinary saturday in america. >> a truly historic day, brian, that became historic before noontime when that number in washington, d.c. set a record already for a washington inauguration protest. then you and i in the coverage today just watched those numbers soar all over the


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