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boundaries that organizers had established. we saw it reach out into the pacific northwest. we saw it reach north to boston, west to chicago, further west to san francisco and los angeles and by midday, eastern time, the organizers knew they were looking at something absolutely extraordinary. indeed, what could be, what has the potential to be the largest kind of coming forth in organized social activity since the '60s and '70s. lawrence o'donnell standing by in new york to continue our special prime time coverage. as i keep saying, this was an extraordinary saturday in america. >> a truly historic day, brian, that became historic before noontime when that number in washington, d.c. set a record already for a washington inauguration protest. then you and i in the coverage today just watched those numbers soar all over the world. >> yes, sir. >> thank you, brian.
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>> thanks. good evening from new york. i'm lawrence o'donnell. this is a special saturday night edition of "the last word" where we will be continuing our live breaking news coverage of this historic day of protests worldwide and it was on this network just before noon that i was able to declare that the protests we were seeing in washington, d.c. today was already at that time the largest inauguration protest in history. by 11:00 a.m. it was double, in fact, the previous largest protest demonstration of an inauguration which was 100,000 people back in 1973. today, when the crowd was numbering around 200,000, it had already broken the record. since then, the estimates shot up to 500,000 people for the washington, d.c. protest alone. then the numbers started coming in from around the country and around the world. many of the scheduled speakers in washington, d.c. including some of the celebrities like
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cher could not make it through that thick crowd all the way to the stage where they were expected to speak but here are some of the people who did. >> this is an outpouring of energy and true democracy like i have never seen in my very long life. >> we need new leadership. we need young leadership. we need women leadership. we need people of color. we need gay and lesbian and bisexual and transgender. >> i'm not nasty like the combo of trump and pence being served up to me in the voting booth. i'm nasty like the battles my grandmothers fought to get me into that voting booth. i'm nasty. >> we have got our work cut out for us and it's going to get harder before it gets easier. i know we will rise to the challenge.
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>> in boston today, the boston police department estimated that 125,000 people gathered in protest. that is more than one-fifth of the population much the city of boston. as the protests spread across the country, los angeles delivered what seems to be the biggest crowd of all, ranging from 500,000 to possibly 700,000 people. here in new york city, just outside this building on fifth avenue, at least 100,000 people marched up fifth avenue toward trump tower. the march on fifth avenue took all day. i was there when the last marchers passed st. patrick's cathedral at 7:19 p.m. with protests in all 50 states and in countries around the world as well as antarctica, estimates say possibly two million protesters were out there and worldwide, possibly three million protesters.
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hans nichols from washington and morgan radford in new york city are with us here on this massive day of protests. hans, let's begin with you. what was supposed to be the biggest crowd in the united states and possibly was outdone by los angeles, washington, d.c. apparently has never seen anything like it. >> reporter: well, you can see the evidence of how many protesters were here. many of them have left signs here in front of the white house. i'm looking at signs and hundreds of yards that way, the other way. you can see behind me the white house. that's the truman balcony as you well know. tomorrow morning, president trump can look out from his balcony and see a lot of these signs, evidence of the protest. i will read a couple. not my president. here's one that says rise up. down there, a free press makes america great. we have to be careful not to show all of them because some of them have, as we have been seeing, feline kitten type themes. here's one here. i will be careful not to
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invoke -- it is tuck trump. you can see the sentiments people are expressing here. about a couple hours ago, you had some trump supporters down here on the mall, on the ellipse between the white house and washington monument and you had a real conversation. you actually had a dialogue. yes, there were protests today but it was also the beginning of a dialogue between supporters of the man occupying that building for the next four years and those that are planning on how they can thwart his agenda and have their voices heard. today they certainly did. >> now to morgan radford who has been covering this march in new york city. i was out there on fifth avenue this afternoon for a couple of hours, then again tonight for about an hour. you were out there all day on a route that started at the united nations, went south to 42nd street, across 42nd street and then all the way up fifth avenue. what were you seeing out there today? >> reporter: lawrence, it was
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interesting. we have been out here for about 14 hours. we saw the first trickle of protesters come in around 7:30. by 10:30, 60,000 people already filling the streets by 1:30 in the afternoon. for those familiar with new york, they were intending to walk down second avenue but they filled lexington and even fifth avenue. we saw buses in a gridlock pattern. they were empty because there was simply no place to go. the protesters had filled the crevices of all the streets. what's interesting, when i spoke to the protesters they said they were here for a myriad of reasons. they were here because of education, abortion, immigration rights. but they also said they were aware they could not change the results of this presidency. when i asked why they chose to demonstrate knowing that donald trump is their president currently, they said it's not about proving to him that we don't want him to be in office. in fact, proving to the people who felt they were marginalized on his path to the white house, that we are here with them. it's not only to prove to them
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but it's also to confirm to those people who were recently confirmed in those cabinet positions that if we see any forms of hate, we are here to let people know we stand with them and to show those cabinet members just how quickly they can mobilize. >> i spoke to an nypd officer who had been on duty all day in front of st. patrick's cathedral. he told me every moment of the day was peaceful all the way through. >> reporter: all the way through. the streets were packed and the police presence was very thick. they told me they really had not anticipated that crowds would be this large and that's why they are still now at this hour of the night out here. a few people are trickling by, a few people shouting. most people are gone by now but police are still out in full force. >> thank you very much for joining us at the end of this very long workday where you have been out there witnessing this history for us. really appreciate it. joining us now, yamiche
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alcindor and maria theresa kumar, msnbc contributor. you both spent the day in washington witnessing the march there in washington. first, your impressions of the day in washington. >> today was really, i almost feel like the inauguration of the protest movement. i have been to a lot of protests for ferguson, for baltimore but this wasn't about one particular issue but this was really thousands of women coming together putting donald trump on notice that they are serious. i talked to so many women who brought their mothers and grandmothers and children and basically what they are saying is for the next four years we will keep up this resistance. people weren't just going to march and wave signs. people were making critical decisions and talking about the fact they want to call their congressman every day or want to encourage people to run for office. this was really a day for people who were depressed and really sad about donald trump becoming inaugurated to really get up and say now it's the time to work.
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>> maria theresa, the images i'm seeing from every protest location where we had cameras today, and by the way, there were protest locations in all 50 states so we are seeing a small sample, impossible to cover all of those, but everything i'm seeing reflects what i saw on fifth avenue today which was a family affair, grand mothers, infant babies, in strollers, other toddlers being carried on the shoulders of mothers and fathers. a very peaceful assembly, a very friendly assembly all day to the point where an extremely relaxed nypd officer was able to tell me at the end of the protest on fifth avenue that he never saw even a slightly tense moment all day. >> that's right. it was the intersectionality of the folks there saying this is the america we are looking for and sending a very clear message to the president, saying we are not going to let you hold back the future of ourselves or for
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our children. and what you said was absolutely right. we saw today, we saw parents, we saw men marching alongside women. we saw trans marching alongside veterans. it was this idea of a coalition. it was the heart and soul that was missing at the end of the day from the progressive movement for the democratic party to coalesce and bring these people to the polls in the past election. >> yamiche, one of the things that's possible in the northeast is to get an extremely large turnout in an urban center literally overnight. so one of the things i'm wondering about on election day, we talk about late deciders, people who decided the day of how they are going to vote or decided the night before. we can speculate how many people saw donald trump's inauguration speech yesterday and decided to show up yesterday or overnight and maybe had not intended to do it, how much of it might have been a late reaction to what they saw on inauguration day.
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>> i should tell you the women i talked to for the last few weeks, they were all really motivated by just the election of donald trump, his inauguration speech was really donald trump doubling down on the mess jaage he had the entir campaign. he was talking about the idea of putting america first but in this way people felt was dark, the idea he was talking about american carnage around the country and so i think the people, donald trump didn't do anything yet that he hadn't done before. i think that that was when people, people were really motivated i think by his election. i think november 9th was the day where people said we need to do something. most of the people i talked to had come from buses that were organized from nashville or they came up and drove up from north carolina. these are people who had sitting ideas they wanted to do this. i didn't really meet anybody that said the last minute, that inauguration speech is what put me over the edge. >> just the bus traffic alone just from new york city that i was picking up today anecdotally
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heading to washington was enormous and people traveling in from all over the world. certainly all over the country. i was hearing for months about, for at least over a month, people making their plans to be there. the other thing you would pick up, i'm sure as a resident of washington, d.c. you can tell us about this, everyone looking for a place to stay. so many people i know in washington had their homes filled up by friends who -- and relatives who were coming in and needed a place to stay. >> and i think a lot of folks are under the impression this happened overnight. it did not. voto latino has been supporting, ensuring there is organization at the local level so we would be on calls helping people, teaching them best practices for mass mobilization, not in d.c. but outside d.c. it was an example of local community organization, people saying i'm going to set up an event page saying i'm going to
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organize and coming forward and being not only present but saying this is the country i want to see move forward. yesterday, i was in florida and i landed in d.c.a. close to midnight and there were planeloads of females with their partners coming into washington, d.c. these are people, i encourage your audience to go ahead and look at the twitter feed of last night where people were in planes not knowing strangers, all of a sudden mostly women coming from all over the country say this was something they planned to do and they were marching with their children. >> the protests about the vietnam war did not start in the congress. they did not start with senators. they started in the streets and senators caught up over time to the protest movement. same thing with the movement against the iraq war. the original critics of the iraq war were not members of congress, they were people, activists like this in the street and congress caught up with the protesters on that
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subject eventually. we can wonder what we're seeing today in terms of its effect on congress but we are not going to know that for awhile. >> what's unique about donald trump, even though he's a republican, he really is kind of an independent president. his inauguration speech was really talking about pushing back on the establishment and washington in general. so there are women who are republicans who do not support donald trump and there are women who were republicans who were at this march. the idea is that even for the people who have conservative ideals, if they start calling their congressmen saying look, i understand you want, you may be pro-life or maybe want to shrink the government but i don't want donald trump's policies to be passed. that's really going to change things. even if donald trump doesn't respond to this march i think the senate might. >> thank you both very much for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. coming up, paul ryan has already said the new republican budget will strip large amounts
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download the xfinity tv app today. now is the time for us to link arms together for the right of working women to earn a living wage, for the right of immigrant families to live without fear, for the right of mothers everywhere to raise families, and we're here for the right to live openly no matter who you are or who you love, no matter what. and you better believe, we're here to fight for reproductive rights including access to safe and legal abortion. >> joining us now by phone, cecile richards, president of planned parenthood federation of america. cecile, thank you very much for joining us. really appreciate it. how did you make it to the podium since we have heard so many stories of scheduled speakers who couldn't work their way through that thick crowd to get there, cher was blocked out,
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never made it to the stage today. how early did you have to get there to make it to the stage? >> we got there really early, lawrence. it was an extraordinary day. i think as you have seen from all the photographs and the coverage and of course, not only in washington, d.c. but all across the country and all across the world. and it was wonderful to have those kinds of problems. i love it when there are too many people turning out to stand up for women's rights. today was a day that i think none of us will ever forget. >> based on what i have been hearing from people over the last month, i was not surprised that this was huge and when we saw how low the turnout was yesterday for the inauguration relative to other inaugurations, it became clear yesterday that there was a good chance that today's protest could outnumber the inauguration attendance. but what were you expecting today and how surprised were you, if you were, by that size of the turnout in washington? >> well, i had been seeing sort of the signs that this could be
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really big all week. i had been traveling, i have been in nevada, in florida, and everywhere i went there were women knitting hats, sending them to their daughters, to their mothers, and then of course, i know, i flew in from miami and the entire plane was full of folks who were flying up for the march. folks of every different walk of life. by then i knew something big was happening. but i will be honest, i had no idea that we would see the kind of crowd we had today. again, i think what has been overwhelming for people is that this was such -- this was a march and a protest of solidarity with women. it was one of the most positive events i have ever been to in my lifetime. again, you had generations, women who had marched in the civil rights movement in the '60s and young people who had never been to a demonstration in their lifetime. it was amazing. >> you know, those two attendees you just mentioned are the ones that made me realize how big this was going to be. when i started to hear from people who had not been in a
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march of any kind since the vietnam war and i started to hear from 20-year-olds who had never gone to a protest before, all saying they were going to this one and they were going to the one in washington, that's when i thought this is going to be very very big in washington, but many surprising elements including a turnout in boston that is so disproportionate in population terms to what we have seen everywhere else. in the city of new york we are estimating about 100,000 people. it sounds like boston, with a population that is only the size of staten island, has created a greater turnout than new york city and so there have been some massive surges in the turnout around the country. >> oh, it's incredible. i come from austin, texas and they literally had more than 50,000 people that were marching in austin, texas. now, my sister wrote me and said they have never had that many
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people, not even when my mother was inaugurated governor of texas years and years ago. it's phenomenal. you're right, you are seeing it everywhere from boise to seattle to antarctica. incredible what the march and the spirit of people who have never marched before for anything are demonstrating. it's really something. >> cecile, who and how, who marshals this energy and how is this energy marshaled for a next step? >> well, i think that was such a theme today and of course, it's even going into tonight, is that this wasn't the end, this was actually the beginning and the launch of something really important. one of the things that we have been emphasizing is that the u.s. house of representatives, the congress comes back in this week and they are already taking aim at women's access to health care, they are taking aim at planned parenthood, and what we need of course is everyone who attended any march anywhere to
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be in touch with their members of congress, in touch with their senators, because believe me, people in congress paid attention to what was happening today but we need to keep the pressure on. >> well, when you think about previous protest movements like against the vietnam war or even the beginning of civil rights protests, there were no members of congress present for those. they came in, they started going to vietnam war protests long after they had started. you had senators at the protest in washington. you had elizabeth warren at the protest in boston. you had senators at protests all around the country, in connecticut and elsewhere. so you already have a buy-in from elected officials. >> oh, absolutely. i started my morning with the governor of the commonwealth of virginia, terry mcauliffe and elected officials there. i just ended the evening with senator cory booker from new jersey making a plea about keeping up the organizing and the entire day, as you're
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saying, has been representation by people that are serving in congress, serving at the local level. i think they see the energy and the enthusiasm. they know women are the majority of voters in this country. we need to pay attention. >> cecile richards, thank you very much for joining us. really appreciate it. >> thank you, lawrence. coming up, some of the other politics stories of the day. the trump white house had its very first press briefing in the press briefing room and the issue of the day for the trump white house was turnout estimates for inauguration day. that's what they considered the most important issue of the day today. we'll be right back. tiki barber running a barber shop? yes!!! surprising. yes!!! what's not surprising? how much money david saved by switching to geico.
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magazine. so i learned today when donald trump appeared at the cia, that he was on the cover of "time" magazine more than anyone else in history. >> that would be incorrect. >> okay. >> richard nixon has been on 55 times. he was on in one year more than 20 times during watergate. those were not -- >> on his way to impeachment and resignation. >> i remember i was criticized in 2008 for putting barack obama on the cover 15 times that year. >> in one year. >> in one year. >> so is that it? is it just barack obama? is donald trump third? >> oh, no, no. hillary clinton has been on 22 times. bill clinton more than 20 times. >> so not even close. >> i'm not even sure he's in the top 15. >> okay. not even close. so that's how he began the day and sean spicer, he also gave his own estimate, his own crowd estimate standing at the microphone saying he believed his inauguration crowd estimate was a million or a million and a
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half. let's listen to the way sean spicer in his very first white house press briefing room announcement talked about what he believes to be the evidence of the size of the crowd at inauguration. >> photographs of the inaugural proceedings were intentionally framed in a way in one particular tweet to minimize the enormous support that it gathered on the national mall. this was the first time in our nation's history that floor coverings have been used to protect the grass in the mall that. had the effect of highlighting any areas where people were not standing while in years past, the grass eliminated this visual. this was also the first time that fencing and magnetometers went as far back on the walk preventing hundreds of thousands of people from being able to access the mall as quickly as they had in inaugurations past. >> it seems he needed more time to check his facts before making that statement. they have covered the lawn before with the white covering for president obama's
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inauguration so that in fact was not a first time phenomenon. he cited photographs in the "new york times," that's the correct presentation of it, and when you look at the "new york times" photographs today, there is absolutely no mystery about where the people are standing in each one of the photographs. the one this year which shows a vast empty space and the obama photographs that show no vast empty spaces, thinner spots than others with some crowd, but this is the first order of business in the first press briefing for the new white house. >> it was an inauspicious beginning. the press and the press secretary have a symbiotic relationship. they are mutually dependent. they are often adversarial in public but cooperate in private. i think for sean to be out there criticizing the press, telling them what to write about, telling them they're wrong, he's starting out on a bad foot. as mark twain says, never get in an argument with a fellow who buys ink by the barrel.
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it's hard to stay fighting with the press year after year, month after month, and again, i would have started out on a different foot. >> you have been in the position of assigning white house correspondents to that room. how -- what does it feel like to them when in the very first press briefing, the press secretary gets facts wrong that are easily provable to everyone in that room? >> by the way, that room as you know is an awful space. it is cramped and grotty and in fact, they want to move it to the old executive office building is not a terrible idea. but it's not a place you really want to be. i think the problem with what he did today was he set himself up in an adversarial relationship with the press by basically saying you are the ones who are making up false news, we are the repository of facts. in fact, the press secretary's job as was famously said, is to tell the truth slowly. it's a propaganda job. >> in their world, was his job
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to go out there today and to create a minimum of five minutes in our coverage tonight where we are talking about that and crowd estimates of yesterday instead of what happened today? >> i'm not sure what the strategy is but it struck me as the kind of incident and you and i both had bosses where the boss says get the heck out there and tell them x or y and felt to me a little like that was the situation that he was in. >> i don't know what boss you are talking about. i have never had that boss. i never had any real official dealings with the press when i was working in the senate. stay with us. we will talk about some cia issues coming up. also coming up, more, as i said, more about donald trump's visit to the cia headquarters today and why after he spoke at the cia, the last head of the cia put out a statement saying that the president should be ashamed of himself.
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angeles estimate that about a 750,000 people packed the streets of downtown l.a. to demonstrate solidarity with the women's march on washington. other estimates indicated the crowd was at least 500,000. officials told the "l.a. times" this is definitely the largest demonstration since an immigration march there that drew about half a million people in 2006. nbc news correspondent katie beck joins us live now from los angeles. what was the situation like there today? >> reporter: well, lawrence, it's almost hard to describe just how packed these streets were earlier today. our crew at one point was trying to move just a block down the road and got sandwiched in the gridlock. we literally could not move. there were so many people flooding the streets today, such intense energy and definitely a big response for los angeles. now pretty much all that's left is this memorial to the march. these are all the signs that
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have been left behind by demonstrators that were here today, creating sort of a photo op for the few that remain here. but the really interesting story about l.a. is the fact that they really defied the expectations of crowds. the permit that was initially granted for this event back in november asked for an estimate from organizers here. organizers initially estimated 1,000 people. 1,000 people. now, of course, the lapd, the numbers are ranging but we know there's hundreds of thousands that showed up today and it certainly felt that which on the ground. there were many celebrities here today, jane fonda, barbra streisand, all talking about women's rights and holding the next administration accountable. the lapd also told us there were no arrests throughout the day. everybody was peaceful. they felt very grateful for that. certainly a lot of enthusiasm and huge numbers in l.a. >> katie, thank you for your long day of service covering that for us. really appreciate it.
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joining us now, by phone, the author of "the true american" and nbc news contributor. he was at the women's march in washington and anand, i believe you are on a bus on your way back or maybe you made it back to new york city already? >> i'm on a bus in some unnamed state with a group overwhelmingly of women and some male allies like me. i have to say first of all, being one of the few men in a vast crowd of women is a much safer, more hopeful and joyful experience than being one of a small number of women in a vast crowd of men. today was an extraordinary day. the images speak for themselves. i would say more personally, i have a little son, he's almost 2 years old, and today i wished i had a daughter so i could have shown her the world as it appeared briefly today in that space. >> a lot of us were able to
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follow what was happening in the different cities through social media and through twitter, especially, and it seemed to me that what i was reading on twitter about the washington demonstration was captured by you in ways that i wasn't seeing elsewhere. often times these demonstrations are not so much the stuff for straight reporting, they need the touch of a poet. i found that the feelings you were expressing about what you were witnessing kind of put us in the thick of it and what it felt like to be around all those people who as you said were modeling the behavior that they were urging the president to display. >> yeah. a protest of any kind calls for some other kind of world, right? i think what was unique about this, in my experience, was that it embodied the kind of world it was trying to call for. you will see accounts of the speeches that were given.
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i don't think they were the highlight. you will see aerial shots from a distance. those are great but i don't think they capture it. what was as stotonishing is wha happened in the crowd, person to person, the way people were supporting each other. i didn't see a single person push another person in seven hours in a crowd of hundreds of thousands of people. i have just never seen behavior like this. in the subways, on the streets, on grass, on mud, no pushing. people helping each other, supporting each other, lifting each other and emotionally, physically, and then you have the signage and you have tee shirts and all of that, and the theme, there were so many different words and phrases and messages but the theme of it all was a giant, giant repudiation of everything donald trump stands for. whether by name or not. because it was all about adding people into your tent and including people and naming the people you wish to include.
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and rather than simply making fun of donald trump or repudiating policy, it was a repudiation of his very small little sad being. >> anand, i'm so glad you gave us another focus than what happens on the stage. that's one of the ways demonstrations are sometimes misrepresented in that when you have half a million people show up, and the cameras and reporters' notebooks are all focused on what people onstage say, including the entertainers on the stage, they are missing the story that is being told by the 500,000 people out there. >> that's exactly right. i think there's a message in that. it's not just that it was nice behavior. i think there's an understanding, a dark understanding that this man is dangerous, as we have seen from his secretary's behavior today, we are in dangerous history book
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territory. what they were embodying was an understanding that our institutions may not protect us from this man and that we will have to protect each other from him. >> thank you very much for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up, more on what president trump had to say when he was at the cia today and how he was received there and by former cia director. eyes open? say hi to xiidra, lifitegrast ophthalmic solution. the first eye drop approved for the signs and symptoms of dry eye. one drop in each eye, twice a day. common side effects include eye irritation, discomfort or blurred vision when applied to the eye, and an unusual taste sensation. do not touch the container tip to your eye or any surface. remove contacts before using xiidra and wait for at least 15 minutes before reinserting them. if you have dry eyes, ask your doctor about xiidra.
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there is nobody that feels stronger about the intelligence community and the cia than donald trump. i am so behind you and i know maybe sometimes you haven't gotten the backing that you've wanted, and you are going to get so much backing, maybe you are
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going to say please don't give us so much backing. mr. president, please, we don't need that much backing. but you're going to have that and i think everybody in this room knows it. i love you, i respect you, there's nobody i respect more. you're going to do a fantastic job and we're going to start winning again and you're going to be leading the charge. >> after the president's appearance at the cia today, former cia director john brennan said he's deeply saddened and angered after that address to about 300 cia staff there today. donald trump's speech was a stark contrast to some of the insults that he has leveled at the intelligence community earlier about the russian hacking and the presidential election. joining us, jeremy bash, former chief of staff to leon panetta when he was director of the cia and defense department secretary. also with us, rick stengel back with us.
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jeremy, i want to read director brennan's full statement. this is what he said after donald trump's speech. former cia director brennan, this was put out by his spokesman, is deeply saddened and angered at donald trump's despicable display of self aggrandizement in front of cia's memorial wall of agency heroes. brennan says that trump should be ashamed of himself. the thing that was striking to me about that is his cia audience there seemed to love every bit of it. they laughed in every moment where he wanted them to laugh and they applauded in every moment where he wanted them to applaud. >> well, there is a certain amount of respect for the office. but i think unfortunately, the appearance there though i think it was well intended, i think it did veer off course in two respects. first, he said we created isis and we should get another chance to take their oil. i think that was really bad analysis, incorrect facts and it really endangers our operatives
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who have to go out into the field and recruit people to spy on our behalf. they will say why should we spy for you, your president said you created isis and you will take our oil. second, standing there in front of effectively the arlington cemetery of langley was not an appropriate place to talk about size of crowds and how many times your face has been on "time" magazine as you talked about with rick earlier. it really should have been more of a time to talk about the sacrifice, heroism and bravery of all those who gave their lives in defense of our country. >> you know, that's the way it struck me, that these things were inappropriate for this moment. however, it's an audience of cia staff. unless we find out tomorrow that these are people who worked in the maintenance department or something, then they loved it. there was no evidence, when he said the american news media are the most dishonest people in the world, they loved it. they responded exactly the way he wanted them to. it was beyond respect for the
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office. >> but it's a small cohort of people there. the thing that i think he doesn't seem to understand and you know this well, these agencies have long storied histories that people care about. he's standing in front of people who have lived in the shadows, who have sacrificed their lives for america and have never been in the spotlight by design. you can't have this kind of narcissistic speech that doesn't resonate throughout that entire agency. maybe it played well in that room but it's not going to resonate with all those rank and file people. >> jeremy, can you help us with why it played well in that room and who would have been in that room today? >> first of all, it's a fairly small, small place. it's sort of the entry way to the building. you don't know, these agencies, the intelligence community's tens and tens of thousands of people so to take however many people were there and say that's what the intelligence community thinks, i don't think that's really fair. also, some things he said are funny, comical.
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i think there is some nervous laughter. it's like when the new boss walks in, everyone laughs at his jokes. i wouldn't read too much into what we heard on camera. the acoustics in the room make everything seem very loud and booming. i think only time will tell to see what this relationship is like. i hope when he was out there he also had the chance to get some operational briefings. i believe he must have gotten operational briefings about what those officers are doing to keep our country safe. if he believes those briefings, if he empowers them and accepts the facts that they are telling him and doesn't dispute whether, for example, russia was involved in our election hacking, of course they were, we now know that, he can't continue to push back on basic facts. that's going to really set up a collision with the intelligence community that will undermine our own defenses. >> here's a hospital has publicly not accepted, rejected, this group's most recent work product which is their analysis of the russian interference with
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our election, and yet what i saw, he was received warmly tonight. >> i think he has a fundamental misunderstanding about what intelligence is. intelligence is not arithmetic. it's this is our best guess and we offer it to you the policy maker to see whether you want to factor it into policy. intelligence offers guidance. >> jeremy, what do you make of this first appearance in terms of how you can expect his interactions to go with the cia? presumably once he has the cia director confirmed, that might be the only person he interacts with at the cia. >> he will have to rely on all 17 components of the intelligence community and a lot on his new director of national intelligence, dan coates. congressman pompeo is a good pick, will be a good leader, will probably be confirmed on
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monday, but he's also the new president will have to rely on an extensive array of professionals from across the community who will help set the table for every national security council decision they will make. they will actually provide intelligence analysis and then they will also carry out covert action which is presidentially directed activity overseas. and the president is going to have to really rely on those proo troops, trust them and bring them into his circle of confidence. >> one footnote on the reaction there. we do have reporters on the scene who said the senior staff who were there never clapped, never reacted in any way, never responded to anything he said in terms of any kind of audience reaction. so that might be a better indicator of what the institution thinks. >> remember, these are career people, lawrence. they serve whoever is in power. they serve the american people. they don't appreciate when someone doesn't understand what their job is. >> we have to leave it there. thank you very much for joining
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us tonight. appreciate you coming in on a saturday night. this historic day of breaking news coverage of these historic protests around the world. we'll take a look at what happened today. every tv doctor knows scrubbing is serious business. they also know you need to get your annual check-up. now with one touch using the mycigna app you can find a doctor in your plan's network to save money. need to be thorough. befi was active.gia, i was energetic. then the chronic, widespread pain drained my energy. my doctor said moving more helps ease fibromyalgia pain.
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it was all started by a woman in hawaii who posted something on facebook which got a few hundred responses, then thousands of responses and then today, the result was when all the estimates are counted, what may turn out to be the single largest day of protests in american history. here is a look at some of the sights and sounds of this historic day. ♪
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>> you look so damn good out there. donald, we are here to tell you that we want you and bannon to stop sending those dog whistles to white supremacists. >> one of us can be dismissed. two of us can be ignored. but together we are a movement and we are unstoppable. >> the next 1459 days of the trump administration will be 1459 days of resistance. >> we are fighting for our sisters, our mothers, for our daughters, but we're also fighting for our brothers, for our sons, for those who are not
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able to stand up and fight for themselves. we have a moral obligation to fight so never, ever lose hope. >> i am a nasty woman. i'm not as nasty as a man who looks like he bathes in cheetoh dust. a man whose words are a diss track to remember. >> we understand the movement. we understand what we have to do as women is to stand tall and we will continue to stand tall. we are stronger together. >> say the name. say the name. say the name. >> new president vows to end american carnage. mr. trump, we are here to vow to
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end the trump carnage. >> our dignity, our character, our rights have all been under attack and a platform of hate and division assumed power yesterday. but the president is not america. we are america. >> we are here together making a chain of love to protect our families. >> trump and his handlers have found a fox for every chicken coop in washington and a twitter finger must not become a trigger finger. >> we want to be counted. we want to be heard. and we are going to fight for what we believe in. >> this has been a special
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saturday edition of "the last word." covering these massive protests around the country on the first full day of the trump presidency. chris matthews is up next. millions hit the streets. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. the marches continued today including a massive protest in the streets of san francisco. millions took to the streets in washington, d.c., across the country and around the world. it came a day after donald trump was sworn in as the 45th president of the united states. according to the organizers today, the goal was to send a message to the new administration and the new president. the crowds were larger than expe

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