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special primetime coverage. as i keep saying, this was an extraordinary saturday in america. >> a truly historic day that became historic before noontime when that number in washington set a record >> yes, sir. >> thank you, brian. >> thanks. >> good evening from new york. i'm lawrence o'donnell and this is a special saturday night edition of the last word where we will be continuing our live breaking news coverage of this historic day of protest worldwide. and it was on this network just before noon that i was able to declare that the protest we were seeing in washington, d.c. today was already at that time the largest inauguration protest in history by 11:00 a.m. it was double, in fact the previous largest protest demonstration of an inauguration which was 100,000 people back in 1973.
today when the crowd was numbering around 200,000, it this h already broken a record. and since then the estimates shot up to 500,000 people for the washington, d.c. protest alone. and then the numbers started coming in from around the country and around the world. many of the scheduled speakers in washington, d.c., including some of the celebrities like cher could not make it through that thick crowd all the way to the stage where they were expected to speak. but here are some of the people who did. >> this is an outpouring of energy and true democracy like i have never seen in my very long life. >> we need new leadership. we need young leadership. we need women leadership. [cheering and applauding] >> we need people of color. we need gay and lesbian and buy sexual and transgender. >> i'm not nasty like the combo
of trump and pence being served up to me in my voting booth. i'm nasty like the battles my grandmothers fought to get me into that voting booth. i'm nasty. >> we've got our work cut out for us. and it's gonna get harder before it gets easier. i know we will rise to the challenge. >> in boston today, the boston police department estimated that 125,000 people gathered in protest it. that is more than one-fifth of the population of the city of boston. and as the protests spread across the country, los angeles delivered what seems to be the biggest crowd of all ranging from 500,000 to possibly 700,000 people. here in new york city, just outside this building on fifth avenue, at least 100,000 people marched up fifth avenue toward trump tower. the march on fifth avenue took all day. i was there when the last
marchers passed saint patrick's cathedral at 7:19 p.m. with protests in all 50 states and in countries around the world as well as ant arctic ka, preliminary estimates in the united states indicate that possibly 2 million protesters were out there today, and worldwide it was possibly 3 million protesters. nbc news pentagon correspondent in washington and nbc news correspondent in new york city are with us here on this massive day of protest. hans, let's begin with you. what was supposed to be the biggest crowd in the united states, and possibly was outdone by los angeles, washington, d.c., apparently has never seen anything like it. >> well, you can see, lawrence, the evidence of how many protesters are here. many of them have left signs here in front of the white house. i'm looking at signs yards and yards, hundreds of yards that way, the other way. you can see behind me the white house. that's the true man balcony as you well know.
tomorrow morning president trump can look out from his balcony and see a lot of these signs, the evidence of the protest. i'm going to read a couple of them. not my president. here's one that says rise up. down there, a free press makes america great. we have to be careful not to show all of them because some of them have as we've been seeing fee fee line kitten type themes. here's one over here. i'm going to be careful not to invoke a spoonerism, but tuck from. you get a sense of some of the anger, some of the protesters are really sort of expressing here. one thing to know that most people have dispersed here about a couple hours ago, you had some trump supporters down here on the mall between the white house and the washington monument and you had a real conversation. you actually had a dialogue. and, so, yes, there were protest today, but it was also a beginning of a dialogue between supporters of the man who will be occupying that building for the next four years and those that are planning on how they can thwart his agenda and how they can have their voices heard. today they certainly did. lawrence? >> morgan rat ford who has been
covering this march in new york city. morgan, i was out there on fifth avenue a couple hours and again tonight for about an hour. you were out there all day on a route that started at the united nations, went south to 42nd street, across 42nd street and all wait up fifth avenue. what were you seeing out there today? >> lawrence, it was interesting. we've been out here for about 14 hours. we saw the first trickle of protesters come at about 7:30, then it was completely packed on first avenue by 10:30. 60,000 people already filling the streets by 1:30 in the afternoon. and for those familiar with new york, they were intended to walk down 2nd avenue, but they filled up lexington and even fifth avenue. we saw buses completely in a gridlock pattern. buses were empty washington wizards there was no place to go. protesters filled the krechl iss of all the streets. they were here because of education, abortion, immigration rights.
but they also said they were aware they could not change the results of this presidency. when i asked why they chose to demonstrate, knowing that donald trump is their president currently, they said it's not about proving to him that we don't want him to be in office. in fact, proving to the people who felt that they were marginalized on his path to the white house that we are here with them. it's not only to prove to them, but it's also to confirm to those people who are recently confirmed in those cabinet positions that if we see any form of hate, we are here to let people know that we stand with them and to show those cabinet members just how quickly they can mobilize. lawrence? >> morgan, i spoke to an nypd officer who had been on duty all day in front of saint patrick's cathedral. he told me every moment of the day was peaceful all the way through. >> all the way through. the streets were packed and the police presence was very thick. they told me that they really had not anticipated crowds would be this large. and that's why they're still now at this hour of the night out
here. a few people are trickling by. few people shouting, most people have gone by now, but police are still out in full force. >> nbc news correspondent hans nichols and morgan rat ford. thank you very much for joining us at the end of this very long workday where you've been out there witnessing this history for us. really appreciate it. thank you. joining us now national political reporter for the new york times. msnbc contributor also with us, president and ceo of voto latino, msnbc contributor. you boeblt both spent the day in washington witnessing the march there in washington. yamish, first your impressions of the day in washington. >> today was really i almost feel like the inauguration of the protest movement. i've been to a lot of protests for ferguson, for baltimore. but this one, this wasn't just about one particular issue. this was really thousands of women coming together saying, putting donald trump on notice that they are serious. i talked to so many women who brought their mothers and their grandmothers and their children.
and basically what they're saying is the next four years we're going to keep up this resistance. people weren't just going to march and wave signs. people were making criticality decisions and saying they want call their congressman every day and encourage people to run for office. this was for people who were depressed and sad about donald trump becoming inaugurated. >> by the way, there were protest locations in all 50 states. >> that's right. >> we're seeing a small sample. impossible to cover all of those. everything i'm seeing reflects what i saw on fifth avenue today, which was a family affair, grandmothers, infant babies in strollers, other toddlers being carried on the shoulders of mothers and fathers, a very peaceful assembly, a very friendly assembly all day to the point where an extremely relaxed nypd
officer was able to tell me at the end of the protest tonight on fifth avenue he never saw even a slightly tense moment all day. >> that's right. it was the intersectionality of the folks there saying this is the america that we were looking for. it was sending a very clear message to the president saying, we are not going to let you hold back the future of ourselves or for our children. and what you said, lawrence, is absolutely right. we saw today, we saw parents, we saw men marching alongside women. we saw trans marching alongside veterans. it was the co-he ligs, the heart and soul missing at the end of the day from the progressive movement for the democratic party to coalesce and bring these people out to the polls in the past election. >> yamish, one of the things that's possible in the northeast is to get an extremely large turnout in an urban center literally overnight. so, one of the things i'm wondering about on election day,
we talk about late decideers, people who decided the day of they were going to vote or decided the night before. we can speculate how many people saw donald trump's inauguration speech yesterday and decided to show up yesterday or overnight and maybe had not intended to do it. how much of it might have been a late reaction to what they saw on inauguration day. >> i should tell you the women that i talked to for the last few weeks, they were all really motivated by just the election of donald trump, his inauguration speech was really donald trump double downing on the message he had the entire campaign speech. he was talking about the idea of really kind of putting america first, but in this way that people felt was dark, the idea he was talking about american carnage around the country. so i think the people -- donald trump didn't do anything yesterday that he hadn't done before. i think that that was when people -- people were really motivated i think by his election. i think november 9 was the day people said we need to do something. most of the people that i talked
to, they had come from buses that were organized from nashville or they came up and drove up from north carolina. these are people who had sitting ideas that they wanted to do this. so, i didn't really meet anybody that said at the last minute that inauguration speech is what put me over the edge. >> yeah, marie, trace the bus traffic alone from new york city that i was picking up today anecdotally heading to washington was enormous and people traveling in from all over the world. certainly all over the country. i was hearing, like yamish for months, at least over a month for people making their plans to be there. and the other thing you pickup and i'm sure as a resident of washington, d.c., you can tell us about this, everyone looking for a place to stay. so many people i know in washington had their homes filled up by friends who were -- relatives who were coming in and needed a place to stay. >> and i think a lot of folks were under the impression it happened overnight. it did not.
voter latino has been supporting ensuring that there is organization at the local level. so, we would be on calls helping people -- teaching them best practices for mass mobilization, not in d.c., but outside d.c. and it was an example of local community organizations, people themselves saying, i'm going to go ahead and set up an event page on facebook, saying i'm going to organize. and coming forward and being -- not only being present, but saying this is the country that i want to see move forward. but yesterday i was in florida and i landed in dca close to midnight, lawrence. there were plane loads of females with their partners coming into washington, d.c. these are people that -- i encourage your audience to go ahead and look at the twitter feed of last night where people were in planes, not knowing strangers at all. mostly of women coming from all over the country saying that this was something that they planned to do. and they were marching with their children. >> yamish, the protests about the vietnam war did not start in
the congress. they did not start with senators. they started in the streets, and senators caught up over time to the protest movement. same thing with the movement against the iraq war. the original critics of the iraq war were not members of congress. they were activists like this in the street and congress caught up with the protesters on the subject eventually. we can wonder what we're seeing today in terms of its effect on congress, but we're not going to know that for a while. >> what's unique about donald trump, even though he's a republican, he really is kind of an independent president. his inauguration speech was really talking about pushing back on the establishment in washington in general. so, there are women who are republicans who do not support donald trump and there are women who were republicans who were at this march. so, the idea is that even for the people who have conservative ideals, if they start calling their congressman and saying, look, i understand that you
want -- i may he be pro life and want to shrink the government, but i don't want donald trump's policies to be passed. that's really going to change things. even if donald trump doesn't respond to this march, i think the senate might. >> michelle and tracy, thank you for joining us tonight. prosch it. >> thank you, lawrence. >> coming up, paul ryan has already said the new republican budget will strip large amounts of monday friday planned parenthood. that group's president was with the protesters today in washington and she joins us next. wait a minute... hey... hold on, i can explain. you better have a good answer... switch to geico and you could save a ton of money on your car insurance. why didn't you say so in the first place? i thought you's was wearing a wire. haha, what? why would i wear a wire? geico. because saving fifteen percent or more on car insurance is always a great answer. with not food, become food?
now is the time for us to link arms together for the right of working women to earn a living wage, for the right of immigrant families to live without fear, for the right of mothers everywhere to raise families. and we're here for the right to live openly no matter who you are or who you love. no matter what. and you better believe we're here to fight for reproductive rights including access to safe
and legal abortion. >> joining us now by phone, cecile richards, the president of planned parenthood federation of america. cecile, thank you very much for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. how did you make it to the podium since we've heard so many stories of scheduled speakers who couldn't work their way through that thick crowd to get there? cher was blocked out and never made it to the stage today. how early did you have to get there to make it to the stage? >> we got there really early, lawrence, and it was an extraordinary day. i think as you've seen from all the photographs and the coverage and of course not only in washington, d.c., but all across the country and all across the world. and it was wonderful to have those kinds of problems. i love it when there are too many people turning out to stand up for women's rights. and today was a day i think none of us will ever forget. >> cecile, based on what i had been hearing from people over the last month, i was not surprised that this was huge. and when we saw how low the turnout was yesterday for the
inauguration relative to other inaugurations, it became clear yesterday that there was a good chance that today's protest could outnumber the inauguration attendance. but what were you expecting today and how surprised were you, if you were, by that size of that turnout in washington? >> well, i had been seeing from the signs this could be really big all week. i've been traveling, i've been in nevada, i've been in florida. and everywhere i went there were women wearing hats, sending them to their daughters, sending them to their mothers and of course i know i flew in from miami. the entire plane was full of folks who were flying up for the march. and folks of every different walk of life and so by then i knew something big was happening. i will be honest, i had no idea we would see the kind of crowd we had today. and again, i think what has been overwhelming for people is that this was such -- this was a march and a protest of solidarity with women.
it was one of the most positive events i've ever been to in my lifetime. and, again, you had generations, you had women who had marched in the civil rights movement in the '60s and young people who had never been to a demonstration in their lifetime t was amazing. >> you know, cecile, those two attendees you just mentioned are the ones that made me realize how big this was going to be. when i started to hear from people who had not been in a march of any kind since the vietnam war and i started to hear from 20-year-olds who had never gone to a protest before, all saying that they were going to this one and they were going to the one in washington, that's when i thought, this is going to be very, very big in washington. but the -- many surprising elements, including a turnout in boston that is so disproportionate in population terms to what we've seen everywhere else, in the city of new york we're estimateding about 100,000 people. it sounds like boston with a population that is only the size of staten island has created a
greater turnout than new york city. and, so, there have been some massive surges in the turnout around the country. >> oh, it's incredible. i just -- i come from austin, texas. they literally had more than 50,000 people that were marching in austin, texas. now, my sister wrote me and she said they've never had that many people, not even where my mother was gnawing rated governor of texas years and years ago. it's phenomenal. and you're right, you're seeing it everywhere, from boise to seattle to antarctica, incredible what this march and the spirit of people who have never marched before for anything are demonstrating. it's really something. >> and, cecile, who and how -- who marshals this energy and how is this energy marshalled for a next step? >> well, i think that was such a scene today and of course it's even going into tonight. this wasn't the end, this was
actually the beginning and the launch of something really important. one of the things we have been emphasizing is the u.s. house of representatives, the congress, come back in this week and they are already taking aim at women's access to health care, they are taking aim at planned parenthood. and what we need, of course, is everyone who attended any march anywhere to be in touch with their members of congress, in touch with their senators because, believe me, people in congress paid a tepgs ttention was happening today, but we need to keep the pressure on. >> when you think about previous protest movements like against the vietnam war or the beginning of civil rights protests, there were no members of congress present for those. they came in -- they started going to vietnam war protests long after they had started. you had senators at the protest in washington. you had elizabeth warren at the protest in boston. you had senators at protests all around the country. in connecticut and elsewhere.
and, so, you already have a buy-in from elected officials. >> oh, absolutely. i mean, i started my morning with the governor of virginia and the elected officials there and i just ended the evening tonight with senator cory booker from new jersey making a passioned plea about keeping up the organizing and the entire day, as you're saying, has been representation by people that serving in congress, serving at their local level, i think they see the energy and the enthusiasm. they know that women are the majority of voters in this country and we need to pay attention. >> cecile richards, thank you very much for joining us tonight, really appreciate it. >> thank you, lawrence. >> coming up, some of the other politics stories of the day, the trump white house had its very first press briefing in the press briefing room. and the issue of the day for the trump white house was turnout estimates for inauguration day. that's what they considered the most important issue of the day today. we'll be right back. we catch flo, the progressive girl,
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history of the magazine. if tom brady is on the cover it's one time because he won the super bowl or something, right? i've been on for 15 times this year. i don't think that's a record, mike, that can ever be broken. do you agree with that? what do you think? >> we're joined by by rick stingel and msnbc contributor, and former editor of time magazine. so, i learned today when donald trump appeared at the cia that he was on the cover of time magazine more than anyone else in the history. >> that would be incorrect, lawrence. >> okay. >> richard nixon has been on 55 times. he was on in one year more than 20 times during watergate. those were not covers -- >> on his way to impeachment. >> yes. and i remember i was criticized in 2008 for putting barack obama on the cover 15 times that year. >> in one year. >> in one year. >> and is that it or just barack obama? is donald trump third? >> oh, no, no, hillary clinton
has been on 22 times. bill clinton more than 20 times. >> so, not even close. >> i'm not even sure he's in the top 15. >> okay. not even close. so, that's how he began the day. and sean spicer, he also gave his own estimate, his own crowd estimate standing at the microphone saying he believed his inauguration crowd estimate was a million or million and a half. let's listen to the way sean spicer in his very first white house press briefing room announcement talked about what he believes to be the evidence of the size of the crowd at inauguration. >> photographs of the inaugural proceedings were intentionally framed in a way in one particular tweet to minimize the enormous support that had gathered on the national mall. this was the first time in our nation's history that floor coverings have been used to protect the grass on the mall. that that had the fk of highlighting where people were not standing where in years past the grass eliminated this
visual. this was also the first time that fencing and magnet ometers prevented people to access the mall as quickly as they had in inaugurations paftd. >> he needed more time to check his facts before making that statement. they have covered the lawn before with the white covering for president obama's inauguration. so, that in fact was not a first-time phenomenon. he cited photographs in the new york times that said that's the correct presentation of t. when you look at the new york times photographs today, there is absolutely no mystery about where the people are standing in each one of the photographs, the one this year which shows a vast empty space, and the obama photographs that show no vast empty spaces. thinner spots than others with some crowd. but this is, this is the first order of business in the first press briefing for the new white house. >> well, it was an inuh suspicious beginning. the press and the press secretary have a symbiotic
relationship. they are mutually dependent and they often are adversarial in public but they cooperate in private. so, i think for sean to be out there criticizing the press, telling them what a to write about, telling them they're wrong, he's starting out on a bad foot. and, you know, as mark twain says, never get in an argument with a fellow who buys ink by the barrel. it's hard to stay fighting with the press year after year, month after month, i would have started out on a different foot. >> you've been in the position of assigning white house correspondents to that room. what does it feel like to them in the very first press briefing the press secretary gets facts wrong that are easily provable to everyone in that room? >> by the way, that room as you know, lawrence, is an awful space. it is cramped and grotty, in fact, they want to move it to the old executive office building is not a terrible idea. but it's not a place that you really want to be. i think the problem with what he
did today was he set himself up in an adversarial relationship with the press by basically saying, you are the ones who are making up false news. we are the repository of facts. in fact, the press secretary's job as mike mccurry famously said, is to tell the truth slowly. it's a propaganda job. >> in their world, was his job to go out there today and to create a minimum of five minutes on our coverage tonight where we're talking about that and crowd estimates of yesterday instead of what happened today? >> i'm not sure what the strategy is, but it struck me as the kind of incident -- and you and i have both had bosses where the boss says get the heck out of there and tell them x or y. it felt to me like that was the situation he was in. >> i don't know what boss you're talking about. i've never had that boss. i never had any real official dealings with the press when i was working in the senate. rick, stay with us. we're going to talk about some cia issues coming up. also coming up, as i said, more about donald trump's visit to the cia headquarters today, and
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protest organizers in los angeles estimate that about 750,000 people packed the streets of downtown l.a. to demonstrate solidarity with the women's march on washington. other estimates indicated the crowd was at least 500,000. officials told the l.a. times that this is definitely the largest demonstration since an immigration march there that jrue about half a million people in 2006. nbc news correspondent katie beck joins us live now from los angeles. what was the situation like there today, katie? >> well, lawrence, it's almost hard to describe just how packed these streets were earlier
today. our crew at one point was trying to move just a block down the road and god sandwiched in the gridlock. we literally could not move. there were so many people flooding the streets today, such intense energy and definitely a big response for los angeles. now pretty much all that's left is this memorial to the march. these are all the signs that have been left behind by demonstrators that were here today creating sort of a photo op for those few that remain here. but the really interesting story about l.a. is the fact that they real really defy the sfekt asians of crowds. the permit granted back in november asked for an estimate for organizers here. organizers initially estimated a thousand people, 1,000 people. now, of course, the l.a.p.d., the numbers are ranging, but we know there's hundreds of thousands that showed up today and it certainly felt that way on the ground. there were many celebrities here today, barbara streisand, jane phone da, all with a message of unity and solidarity, all really talking about women's rights and holding that next administration
accountable. the l.a.p.d. also told us there were no arrests throughout the day. everybody was peaceful. and they felt very grateful for that. so, certainly a lot of enthusiasm and huge numbers here in l.a. >> katie beck, thank you for your long day of service covering that one for us. really appreciate it. joining us now by phone, the author of the true american, an nbc news contributor, and he was at the women's march in washington and a non, i believe you're on your bus on your way back or maybe you've made it back to new york city already. >> i'm on a bus in some unnamed state with a group overwhelmingly of women and some male allies like me. i have to say, first of all, being one of the few men in a vast crowd of women is a much safer, more hopeful and joyful experience than being one of the small number of women in a vast crowd of men. but today was, it was an extraordinary day. the images speak for themselves.
i would say more personally, i have a little son who is almost two years old and today i wished i had a daughter so i could have shown her the world as it appeared briefly today in that space. >> anon, a lot of us were able to follow what was happening in the different cities through social media and through twitter especially. it seemed to me that what i was reading on twitter about the washington demonstration was captured by you in ways that i wasn't seeing elsewhere. oftentimes these demonstrations are not so much the stuff for straight reporting, and they he need the touch of a poet. and i found that the feelings you were expressing about what you were witnessing kind of put us in the thick of it and what it felt like to be around all those people who, as you said, were modelling the behavior that they were urging the president to display.
>> every protest of any kind calls for some other kind of world, right? i think what was unique about this in my experience was that it embodied the kind of world it was trying to call for. so, you'll see account of the speeches that were given. i don't think they were the highlight. you'll see aerial shots from a distance. those are great, but i don't think they capture it. what was astonishing to me was what happened in the thick of the crowd, person to person, the way that people were supporting each other. i didn't see a single person push another person in seven hours in the crowd of hundreds of thousands of people. i've just never seen behavior like this. in the subways, on the streets, on the grass, on mud, no pushing, people helping each other, supporting each other, lifting each other. and emotionally, physically, and then you have the signage and
you have t-shirts and all of that. the theme, there were so many different words and phrases and messages. but the theme of it all was a giant, giant repudiation of everything donald trump stands for, whether by name or not, because it was all about adding people into your tent and including people, and naming the people you wish to include. and rather than simply making fun of donald trump or repudiating policies, it was a repudiation of his very small little sad being. >> anan, i'm so glad you gave us another focus than what happens on the stage. that's one of the ways demonstrations are sometimes misrepresented in that when you have a half a million people show up and the cameras and the reporters notebooks are all focused on what people on the stage say, including the entertainers on the stage, they're missing the story that is being told by the 500,000 people out there. >> that's exactly right.
and i think there's a message in that. it's not just that it was nice behavior. i think there is an understanding, a dark understanding that this man is dangerous, as we've seen from his press secretary's behavior today. we are in dangerous history book territory. and what they were embodying was an understanding that our institutions may not protect us from this man and that we will have to protect each other from him. >> anan, thank you very much for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. >> thank you. >> coming up, more on what president trump had to say when he was at the cia today, and how he was received there and by the former cia director. but there will still be pain. it comes when your insurance company says they'll only pay three-quarters of what it takes to replace it. what are you supposed to do? drive three-quarters of a car? now if you had liberty mutual new car replacement™,
there is nobody that feels stronger about the intelligence community and the cia than donald trump. i am so behind you, and i know maybe sometimes you haven't gotten the back end that you've wanted, and you're going to get so much backing. maybe you're going to say please don't give us so much backing. [ laughter ] >> mr. president, please, we don't need that much backing. [ laughter ] >> but you're going to have
that. and i think everybody in this room knows it. i love you. i respect you. there's nobody i respect more. you're going to do a fantastic job. and we're going to start winning again and you're going to be leading the charge. >> after the president's appearance at the cia today, former cia director john brennan said he's deeply saddened and angered after that address to about 300 cia staff there today. donald trump's speech was a stark contrast to some of the insults that he has leveled at the intelligence community earlier about the russian hacking and the presidential election. joining us now, jeremy bash, former chief of staff to leon panetta when he was cia and defense department. jeremy bash, i want to read director brennan's full statement. this is what he said after donald trump's speech. former cia director brennan, this was put out by his spokesman, is deeply saddened
and donald trump's display of self aggrandizement in front of the wall of agency heroes. trump should be ashamed of himself. the thing that was striking to me, jeremy, about that is his cia audience there seemed to love every bit of it. they laughed in every moment where he wanted them to laugh, and they applauded in every moment where he wanted them to applaud. >> well, there is a certain amount of respect for the office, but i think unfortunately the appearance there, though, i think it was well intended. i think it did veer off course in two respects. first he said, we created isis and we should get another chance to take their oil. and i think that was really bad analysis, incorrect facts, and it really endangers our operatives who have to go out into the field and recruit people to spy on our behalf. they're going to say, why should we spy for you? your president said you created isis and you're going to take our oil.
standing there effectively in front of the arlington cemetery of langley was not an appropriate place to talk about size of crowds and how many times your face has been on time magazine as you talked about with rick earlier. it really should have been more of a time to talk about the sacrifice, heroism and bravery of all of those who gave their lives in defense of our country. >> you know, that's the way it struck me, rick, that these things were inappropriate for this moment. however, it's an audience of cia staff. now, unless we find out tomorrow that these are people who work in the maintenance department or something, then they loved it. it was no evidence -- and when he said, you know, the american news media are the most -- almost the most dishonest people in the world, they loved it. they responded exactly the way he wanted them to. >> jeremy would know. >> and it was beyond respect for the office. >> but it's a small cohort of people there and the thing that i think he he doesn't seem to understand, and you know this well in washington, these
agencies have long store i hyed histories that people care about. he's standing in front of a wall of people who lived in the shadows, who sacrificed their lives in america and have never been in the spotlight by design. you can't have this kind of narcissistic speech that doesn't resonate throughout the entire agency. maybe it played well in that room but it's not going to resonate with all those rank and file people. >> jeremy, can you help us with why it played well in that room, and who would have been in that room today? >> first of all, it's a fairly small, small place. it's sort of the entryway to the building. and you don't know. i mean, these agency, the intelligence community has tens of thousands of people. to take however many people were there and say that's what the intelligence community thinks, i don't think that's really fair. also, some things he said are funny, they're comical. i think there is some nervous laughter. it's like when the new boss walks in, everyone laughs at his jokes. i wouldn't read too much into what we heard on camera.
the acoustics in that room make everything seem loud and bomg. only time will tell bha this relationship is like. i hope when he was out there he had the chance to get some operational briefings and i believe he must have, operational briefings about what those officers are doing to keep our country safe. and if he believes those briefing s, and if he empowers them and accepts the facts they're telling them and doesn't dispute russia was ininvolved in our hacking, he can't continue to push back on basic facts. that will set up something that will undermine us. >> he has publicly accepted, not rejected this group's recent work product which is the russian interference with our election and yet i saw he was received horribly. >> he has a fundamental misunderstanding about what intelligence is.
intelligence is not arithmetic. it's not 2 plus 2 equals 4. intelligence is this is our best guess about the situation and we're offering it to you, the policy maker, to factor it into your policy or not. he seems to think that they're giving him facts that are indisputable as opposed to offering him guidance. that's what intelligence does. >> jeremy, what do you make of this first appearance in terms of how you can expect his interactions to go with cia? presumably once he has a cia director confirmed, that might be the only person he interacts with at the cia. >> well, he'll have to rely on the entire intelligence community, all 17 components. and he'll have to rely a lot on his new director of national intel he jensen dan coats. i think congressman pompeo is a good pick. he'll be a good leader. i think he'll probably be confirmed on monday. but he's also -- the new president is going to have to rely on an stenson. array of professionals from across the community who will help set the table for every national security council
decision that they'll make, they'll actually provide intelligence analysis. and then they will also carry out covert action which is presidentially directed activity overseas and the president is going to have to really rely on those troops, trust them and bring them into his circle of confidence. >> just one footnote on the reaction there. we do have reporters who were on the scene who said that the senior staff who were there never clapped, never reacted in any way, never responded to anything he said in terms of any kind of audience reaction. so, that might be a better he indicator of what the institution thinks. >> and remember, these are career people, lawrence. they serve whoever is in power. they serve the american people and they don't appreciate when someone doesn't understand what their job is. >> we're going to have to leave it there. jeremy bash and rick, thank you very much for joining us tonight. appreciate you coming in on a saturday night. >> thanks, lawrence. >> coming up, this historic day of breaking news coverage of these historic protests around
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♪ >> you look so darn good out there. donald, we are here to tell you that we want you and bannon to stop sending those dog whistles to white supremacists. >> one of us can be dismissed, two of us can be ignored, but together we are a movement and we are unstoppable. >> the next 1459 days of the trump administration will be 1459 days of resistance. [cheering and applauding] >> we're fighting for our sisters, for our mothers, for our daughters, but we are also fighting for our brothers, for our sons, for those who are not able to stand up and fight for themselves. we have a moral obligation to fight, to never, ever lose hope. >> i am a nasty woman.
[cheering and applauding] >> i'm not a nasty as a man who looks like he bathes in cheeto dust, a man whose words are a death trap to america. >> we understand the movement. we understand what we have to do as women is to stand tall, and we will continue to stand tall. we are stronger together. ♪ >> say her name. say her name. >> president president vows to end american carnage. mr. trump, we are here to vow to end the trump carnage. [cheering and applauding] >> our dignity, our character,
our rights have all been under attack. and the platform of hate and division assumed power yesterday. but the president is not america. we are america. [cheering and applauding] >> we are here together, making a chain of love to protect our families. >> trump and his handlers have found a fox for every chicken coop in washington and a twitter finger must not become a trigger finger. >> we want to be counted. we want to be heard. and we are going to fight for what we believe in. [cheering and applauding] >> this has been a special saturday edition of "the last word" covering these massive protests around the country on the first full day of the trump presidency.
chris matthews is up next. >> millions hit the streets. let's play hardball. good evening. the a massive crowd in the streetsz of san francisco. million dollars took to the streets in washington d.c. across the country and around the world a day after donald trump was sworn in as the 45th president of the united states. according to the organizers, the goal was to send a message the crowds were largerer than organizers expected and they remained peaceful. they really did and joining me by phone is kntv's karen and give us a sense