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think? our special coverage on msnbc continues now with bryan williamess. we've been cautioned against crowd estimates, certainly measured in the hundreds of thousands. when it's all added up from washington to new york to chicago on west where some of the marches, protests, rallies are still going on, it's millions of people in the
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streets of this country today. you saw fifth avenue in new york. this was chicago, illinois. at some points, because we were able to take these aerial pictures over chicago, people filled the entire frame, top to bottom, right to left. specially because of the way the crowd was concentrated on this unusually balmy winter day in chicago. the protests were still going on despite rain in san francisco that started in the afternoon hours and continue to fall after nighttime fell there. los angeles also saw huge crowds in that city, but in cities and towns all across the country and we woke up to pictures from paris, rome, barcelona, london, melbourne, australia, is the latest to launch a protest as well. jacob ras cone starts us off and
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is in the mall in washington, d.c. >> and i think, brian, looking at all of the signs that have been left just in front of the white house shows you the variety of reasons for which the hundreds of thousands of women and, of course, also some men and children came to march on the capital. we're talking about women's equality, equal pay, climate change, immigrant rights and so many other things, but what united all of them, they said, was this belief that there were others like them who were upset about some of the things that president trump has done or said. many of them we talked to journeyed from very far. they had taken road trips, skipped work and missed school and they were so inspired to see so many people with them and they know in their words that
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this is just the beginning. they say they are now going to go home. they are going to talk to their elected officials there. they are going to be aware of all of this as they move forward. we did talk to several people who also said that they want to be optimistic about president trump. they want to believe that he might see some of this and take it into account as he speaks to american people, as he works on different policies. that he'll remember these demonstrations in what he does and what he says. that is the hope of many of them. others said they had not -- they didn't have that hope, but that they would continue to resist and make their voices heard. stunning, those, display here, brian, and here and not just here but all over the national mall and the ellipse. >> jacob, thank you very much. what a scene. that's just the aftermath there tonight. what was billed as the women's
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march but quickly as it got under way organically we could tell that it was going to feature a whole lot of country. the size and scale of the march in new york city surprised even the organizers there. it became a huge local news story in new york as it just continued to take over real estate. again, i can't emphasize to you how big that crowd is on fifth avenue. normally traffic goes in the opposite direction. this flow went on for hours. they were vocal, they were relentless. and underneath the camera where it is, is trump tower, where the crowd was then funneled out into side streets. but this kept going until tonight when the nypd finally had to open up fifth avenue to traffic. it is a very different scene now. correspondent morgan radford was there all day. morgan, while this didn't get out of hand, organizers had to make some quick decisions as to
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some route changes and just where to put everybody in a finite city. >> reporter: brian, that's right. this frankly was a crowd larger than anyone really anticipated or expected. this wrapped bun two hours ago here in front of trump tower. it began on first avenue by the other trump tower in front of the united nations. and we've been traveling with them for 13 hours as they marched. we started here at about 7:30 this morning. we saw a few people trickling in. then at 10:30 you saw crowds in full force. by 1:30 in the afternoon, already 60,000 people had been in the streets. and again, as we mentioned, they just finished now. brian, i know we heard from jacob who really talked about some of the diversity of thought among these protesters. that's what i found particularly interesting. because you were seeing signs that said things like, he's not my president. when i approached one of the protesters and said, but he is, and this is donald trump, he is your president, why have you
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chosen to demonstrate? why now? one woman told me she grew up in the '60s, she was only 15 at the time the civil rights movement was really coming to full force. she said then, i didn't feel like i had a big enough voice. now i do. now i must use it. we heard a lot of the women, we saw help, we saw children, but entire generations of women within the same families who said the point is to show that we are standing with the people who felt like they were marginalized by president trump's comments as he was making his way to the white house. he said the point isn't to get him out of the white house, we know that's not a possibility at this moment, but it's to show a motion of solidarity. it's also, which i found interesting, they said it was about sending a message to recently confirmed cabinet members. they said, if we see hate in this administration, we are going to show you just how quickly and how powerfully we can mobilize. >> this almost looked like a counter-inauguration across this country today. and we can't point out enough,
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this was on day one, the first full day of the trump presidency. let's talk about the politics of this. joining us by telephone, because she's in washington having just returned from the march, is the veteran democratic california congresswoman maxine waters. a 14-term member of congress who was part of the march today. congresswoman, we can't emphasize enough, this was peaceful. i'm told the only place where tempers got a little hot, a spark in the air, was outside the trump hotel on the mall in washington briefly. the "new york times" subhead at this hour is, "hints of a sustained campaign of protest." what do you did today mean? what happens to this now? >> well, i think that the size of the march here in washington, and of course what went on all over the country, must have sent a message to donald trump and his advocates.
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they must know that this is unusual. and that something very important happened. that people came to washington, d.c., they paid their way on airplanes and buses and trains and put themselves up in hotels and with friends because they are concerned about the direction of this country, about the uncertainty and the fear that he has created in the way that he's conducted himself. and i can't help but know, no matter how much he may try and dismiss it, maybe try and say that the press is wrong in its estimation about how many people were out there, this clearly was a message that resounded around the world. >> we're going to talk about the president's words and his behavior later on in this broadcast.
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one thing i left out at the top of the broadcast was the president's appearance at cia headquarters, and then the president dispatching his press secretary to the press room for a scorching of the news media. congresswoman, is it fair to ask where all these people were november 8th? >> well, yes. i guess you have to think about the entire circumstances around this election. because so much is misunderstood. and i don't know if the people who were there represented certain areas of the country. i don't know if everybody voted and they absolutely believed that they had to do something now that he has been sworn in as president. but whatever, whatever happened or did not happen during the election or at the election
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time, they sent a message today. it was profound. absolutely. i walked from the beginning of the march all the way past the white house, all the way down to 17th street. and i listened to the words that were being said by individuals and the signs that were being carried. and i think people are convinced that in order to save our democracy, to protect our democracy, try and help guide what direction this country is going in, they had to be there today. they had to do this. and they had a chance that they said basically this would not be just one time, that it was going to go on. >> this may break the record for the number of people out in public on city streets on any given day in this country, a record that i am guessing goes back to the time of the vietnam war.
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the difference then is, it was converted. it did bring about change. it made for a lot of trouble in washington. just as today did. but you're up against a formidable opponent. a newly elected president who was the victor in the electoral college. >> that is true. and i think that donald trump will be difficult to influence and to change. but i think these investigations that are going to go on in washington, d.c. are going to reveal information about him that's going to cause him to either change or the congress of the united states are going to have to move on him. >> congresswoman maxine waters from california, thank you very much.
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after the day you spent out on the pavement in washington for joining us by telephone tonight. we're going to fit in our first break here. when we come back, we're going to tell you what's behind this other "new york times" headline tonight, "with false claims, trump hits media on crowd turnout." the president and his spokesman today were trying to relitigate the size of the crowd yesterday at the inauguration. we'll look at the facts. we'll look at the photographic evidence when our broadcast continues.
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while hundreds of thousands of americans were on city streets across this country in part of an organized rally, a march, a protest, that happened in the white house briefing room. that was sean spicer, the new incoming white house press secretary. that followed remarks by the president that we'll get to later in this broadcast. but he essentially was relitigating the crowd estimates and the reporting on the inauguration yesterday, including you heard there criticizing a particular tweet of the vast universe on social media. so we asked cal perry to get our arms around the known facts and known photography, including crowd estimates from yesterday. cal is our msnbc senior news editor, and cal, have at it. >> all right, so just for viewers at home, why do we not have an official number in the reason we don't have an official number is the national parks
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service stopped doing it after the million man march in 1995. due to the difficulty in accurately assessing krout estimates for large events, we're not doing it anymore. okay, so let's play now a bite from sean spicer at that same press conference. he talks about the numbers. take a listen. >> we know that 420,000 people used the d.c. metro public transit yesterday, which actually compares to 317,000 that used it for president obama's last inaugural. >> sean spicer there is comparing two different numbers. he's comparing apples with oranges. let's put up the numbers from the past four inaugurations. this is metro riders as of 11:00 a.m. for each of the past four inaugurations. he cited 317,000, that was taken at 11:00 a.m. at 11:00 a.m. yesterday, there were 193,000 people who had ridden metro. so he, i believe, is using a number for the full day.
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truth be told, we don't know where he's getting that number, we don't know what that number refers to. what we know is those are the facts from the d.c. metro. the other indication is bus permits. take a look at the number of permits that have been requested for this inauguration in comparison to the women's march, in comparison to obama's 2009 inauguration. 393 bus permits for trump's inauguration. 1,200 for the women's march. and for barack obama's 2009 inauguration, 3,000. you mentioned twitter. let's go ahead and show you my account at 10:00 a.m. i was out there all day. the reason that i was not taken live is because there was nobody there. this is just shortly before 10:00 a.m. on seventh street looking back towards the washington monument. you see that white tent there. that was the media village. that was in the shadow of the washington monument looking back towards the capitol. there's another tweet here from me about an hour later from that media village looking back towards the capitol.
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this is 45 minutes before president trump was sworn in. another thing that sean spicer said here, while we're fact checking, and not talking about the amazing marches that took place across the country, he said there had not been covering on the mall in previous inaugurations that white cover that almost made it look like it snowed in d.c. well, it has been used before. a tweet from a cnn reporter, ashley kilo, in 2013, there is that white cover. the only i thing i'd like to add is there were protests in berlin, london, paris, sydney, capetown. i've spent the majority of my career since 2003 covering unsavory governments in unsavory countries and places where freedom of the press is not valued. we're not there yet. i'm not saying that the trump administration is an authoritarian government at all. what i am saying is, this is out of that playbook. when there is a story you want the media not to cover, you throw that random hand grenade that doesn't have to do with anything and get them covering something else, and you do it without taking questions from
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the media. sean spicer came into the briefing room today, he made these statements, lambasted the media, he said we reported it wrong, the numbers were wrong, walked out without taking any questions. we hear time and time again, give this administration a chance. well, today they came out and the opening salvo was a firing shot against the media. >> if anything, the opening salvo came from the president over at cia headquarters. the subject of part of the remainder of our broadcast. cal perry with the known set of facts about what we witnessed yesterday, including that white ground covering, the plastic designed to protect the mall from all the pedestrians. we were careful to mention it as part of our coverage yesterday, because visually it can tend to make a crowd look more sparse. cal, thanks. another break for us. we're back with more on this extraordinary saturday.
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yesterday at a time when our nation and the world was watching the peaceful transition of power, and as the president said the transition and the balance of power from washington to the citizens of the united states, some members of the media were engaged in deliberately false reporting. the president is committed to unifying our country and that was the focus of his inaugural address. this kind of dishonesty in the media, the challenging, the bringing about our nation together is making it more difficult. there's been talk in the media about the responsibility to hold donald trump accountable. it goes two ways. we're going to hold the press accountable as well. >> that right there is the new white house press secretary, sean spicer. and that right there doesn't happen until and unless the press secretary is sent to the briefing room by the president, which was the case today, as they continued to relitigate the crowd size and the reporting about yesterday's inauguration.
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as donald trump had pledged, it would be the biggest crowd ever. that was spoken while hundreds of thousands of people, as you see on the other side of the screen, were on the streets of cities across this country, and for that matter, around the world. let talk about this. the media ramifications. our nbc news capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell was on duty today at the white house there in the briefing room. eli stokels, white house correspondent for politico. our old friend jim warren, long-time washington bureau chief for the "chicago tribune," chief media writer for the pointer institute and "vanity fair." welcome to you all. kelly, i have to hear your first-person perspective. you were there in the front row. this was really the first sit-down formal appearance by the new press secretary in the briefing room, and this happened. >> reporter: brian, the official
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first briefing is supposed to be monday, so your assessment that this impromptu event happened at what we perceive to be the direct request of the president certainly lines up with how things are usually done. and sean spicer is a veteran of gop communication and it felt like he was sent out there. in fact, this was delayed about an hour from the time that the advisory, sort of the official this is going to happen memo that went out to those of us working here at the white house today. that additional hour made us wonder, what are they working on? are they doing more research? i almost felt that perhaps the president would walk into the briefing room himself. instead, his words came through, sean spicer. that is the job of the press secretary, to be the voice of the president. you could almost feel it today in the tension in that room. especially because the facts that were laid out according to sean spicer as you just in your last segment -- there are disputes about those facts.
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those don't line up with the perceptions that people had by witnessing things and the other research they've been able to pull together. certainly criticism of how things are reported is expected. that's part of the vigorous back and forth that happens. but there's usually also a chance for us to ask questions. they did say this was a statement, not a press briefing, and that is a distinction that could be important in this instance. but we wanted to ask about the women's march and the crowds that you could actually hear from here at the white house. and spicer left the lectern and he did not take any questions. and it does sort of set up on day one before the official briefing schedule own begins, a line has been thrown down that reporting from tweets or pool reports or official articles, statements, broadcasts, are all subject to getting the briefing room treatment and critique from both the president and his top spokesman. earlier today at the cia, the
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president called out a reporter by his first name, referencing some reporting he had done in the newly renovated oval office. and he did that in front of secret service employees who may not have even been aware of it. but the president used that moment to sort of go after, by name, a single reporter who made a fact error and then corrected it. that fact error also sets up this opportunity for the trump white house to show that mistakes happen. but they assigned a motive, saying that there was deliberate and intentional underreporting of the crowd size in order to undercut the trump inaugural and to suggest that there isn't support for the new president. >> eli stokels, first of all, again, congratulation on this your new job title. and second, from you i need a definition. for people and only 20% of our country, god bless them, is on twitter. for people who aren't familiar with the nomenclature of social media, what is gas lighting? and how, in your view, are we being gas lit?
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>> it's a complicated term. i believe it comes from an old movie. basically it's sort of psy-ops. someone telling you something that is untrue but basically doing it in a way that convinces you to question the reality that you see right in front of your own eyes. and that you're experiencing with your own senses. and i think that is a tactic we've seen from trump's campaign and will continue to see into this white house. a lot of times they are disputing a reality that is evident and plain for all to see. the attention we're paying to these crowds in the side by side of today's marches and yesterday's attendance, they are drawing more attention to that than there already was just by coming out and issuing that kind of statement tonight. and i think that it just -- part of the reason people were out there marching today is that one of the things that has offended them about donald trump is the ease with which he doesn't tell the truth.
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the ease with which he lies about things that are easily provable as lies. at the cia, he told the cia officers that, i never attacked you, the media just said that i'm having a feud with you. well, there are tweets, video of the statements trump made a week ago, likening the intelligence community to using the tactics he said of nazi germany. these are all out there for everyone to see. the crowd count today versus yesterday, it's there for everyone to see. and i think there are real consequences beyond just the impact on the press. the whole country is going to at some point need to be able to trust the credibility of not just the president but the white house press secretary when they walk into the room and tell the country that something bad has happened, that we're in a crisis, and if they lie this easily and brazenly, there are going to be a lot of people who don't believe what they say. that is a problem that goes beyond politics. >> jim warren, the pictures from your hometown, chicago,
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illinois, today, just from chicago, are stunning. if this rally, this protest movement that we saw today, as i said earlier in the broadcast, has the potential to exceed in size the social movements of the '60s and '70s, then what we saw in the briefing room today has the potential to exceed and certainly was recommend necessarily sent of the ron ziegler era under richard nixon. >> boy, we're dating ourselves there. you're exactly right. talk about the nixon era, we're talking on a saturday night. we have our version of the saturday night massacre. this is an attempt at demolition of the press corps. as it is so self-evident, and i suspect eli and kelly would agree, that the battle plan is a sort of, make those folks in that room, including kelly, including eli, sort of an opposition party. and to exploit the fact that our collective approval rating, our own collective approval ratings
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among the american public, are very low as we know. they're going to try to hammer away at every single mistake. but this obsessiveness that we've seen again during the campaign, of late, be it attacking arnold schwarzenegger, attacking the media with ratings, with pollings. and now with the demonstrably false, as eli suggested, assertions about the the crowd size yesterday, is quite remarkable. i'm sure certainly kelly, who's got as much experience, and you, cannot vaguely remember a setting like that in the press room today where somebody came out in such an arguably sort of tacky, whiny, combative fashion, and didn't even have the spine to take a single question after doing a 180 after about 5:26, and exiting. >> jim, i am looking at how our journalism is changing. and really with alarming speed. i said earlier, the headline in the "new york times" tonight
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reads, "with false claims, trump hits media on crowd turnout." they called what happened in the briefing room today an irate scolding. and they called what trump did today, which we're getting to in the next segment, a remarkably bitter attack. so there's a massive effort in those of us who use language to change the language and drop the usual politeness. >> and this is the paper record. this remains our greatest i think adjourn istic product. the few out there still getting the print edition, as i do, it's quite amazing. the multiplicity and sophistication of the subjects that it takes on. so it is remarkable. and you should also know about an hour or so ago, i wrote a piece for the pointer institute on pointer.org and very quickly folks tweeting upset with me because i did not use the word "lied." i did not use the word "falsehoods" in describing what trump and spicer did today.
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so to the extent that the old gray lady, the "new york times," is altering its rhetorical methodology, it's also reflecting a sense out there among a growing percentage of americans that we should perhaps, so to speak, call a spade a spade sometimes. >> and eli, i noted today donald trump took a stab at denying the ring yesterday in this attempt to relitigate crowd estimates, he's defending the event and he seemed to be saying today that there wasn't rain during the speech. which yesterday social media had a heck of a time with the still photos of pbs 43 president bush 43 having a fight with a clear plastic poncho handed out while the president spoke, along with umbrellas. >> that's right, the rain did
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serve as a convenient excuse for why the crowd might have been smaller. just the obsessiveness with crowd size. a normal administration i think, everyone up to this point you would expect that, one, this wouldn't be an issue. if they made any statement about the protests today it would have been something an know dine about we respect people's right to protest, nothing more. that is not this new administration's style. i think it's true, donald trump needs the media to be a foil because hillary clinton is began. low-energy jeb and little marco, gone. there's no foil that has emerged yet in the democratic congress for him. the media right now is it. his approval rating right around 40%, maybe lower than that. it may be headed further south. so what does he do to try to hold himself up? tries to weaken the other people who are out there as foils and i think that's clearly what he's going to continue to try to do with the media. >> to our friends, eli, kelly and jim, thank you, all three of you, we're going to invite you back as this obviously is just getting under way.
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thanks very much for joining us on a saturday night. another break for us. when we come back, what happened today at cia headquarters in langley, virginia, while the streets of so many cities in this country were full of hundreds of thousands of people. anodyne anodyne anodyne test.
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i know maybe sometimes you haven't gotten the backing that you've wanted. and you're going to get so much backing. maybe you're going to say, please don't give us so much backing. as you know, i have a running war with the media. they are among the most dishonest human beings on earth. and they sort of made it sound like i had a feud with the intelligence community. and i just want to let you know, the reason you're number one, it's exactly the opposite. >> that was donald trump today in langley, virginia, at the cia headquarters.
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it's worth noting that he had to pass, going and coming, elements of the protest in the streets today and could hear it inside the white house. but he got over to the cia headquarters. it's very much worth noting what he's in front of there. that is the wall with 117 stars that is to commemorate the 117 cia veterans, the members of the silent service as they're called, who have given their lives for their country. that wall has been called the arlington of langley, virginia, of the cia headquarters. let's talk about this appearance today with jeremy bash. he's the former chief of staff to the cia director and the former chief of staff to the head of the pentagon.
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and ken delaney who covers intelligence and national security for us. jeremy, he chose this appearance to relitigate the crowd side yesterday, to attack the press. how is that going to go over? >> well, it was a nice gesture for the president to show up there. but i think it did veer off course for two reasons. number one, he said we invented isis, and we're going to go back and take their oil again. and that's really dangerous. because we have intelligence officers who are going out trying to recruit assets, trying to work with people in the middle east. and they're just going to say in return, hey, you guys invented isis, so your president said, you're going to come back and take our oil, it's going to make our job a lot harder. second, as you noted, this is hallowed ground. and i think back to the time when i was at the agency on december 30th, 2009, when we lost darren and harold and jennifer and liz and scott and dane and an officer named jeremy. seven officers killed in eastern afghanistan working on a counterterrorism operation. one of the worst days for the agency in its history.
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i went to many of their funerals. and they are there in that book of honor. and their stars are there on the wall. and to stand there and talk about crowd sizes and how many times you've been on the cover of "time" magazine i think really went over like a lead balloon. >> indeed. they're represented by stars because in so many cases their names can't be used because they served in silence. but those stars also represent the two men killed at benghazi. they represent the first american who died in afghanistan after 9/11. ken delaney, president trump said, "the media make it sound as if i had a feud with the intelligence community." we watched it play out both on videotape and on twitter, looking back at his own twitter feed. it's all right there when he conflated them with the behavior in nazi germany. intelligence agency should never have allowed this fake news to leak into the public, one last shot at me, are we living in nazi germany? he didn't stop there, he said a
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lot of this on camera as well. the intelligence briefing on so-called russian hacking was delayed on friday, perhaps more time needed to build a case, very strange, released by intelligence even knowing there is no proof, never will be, my people will have a full report on hacking within 90 days. and so on, and so on. including an attack on brennan, the former leader at cia. ken, i know this didn't go over well with brennan. >> no, it didn't, brian. brennan's spokesman gave a statement to our own andrea mitchell calling it a despicable display of self-aggrandizement and saying trump should be ashamed of himself. the feud with the intelligence community is irrefutable, it's there in black and white. trump may believe he was actually feuding with the leaders of the intelligence community, john brennan and jim clapper, who were appointed by president obama. but he didn't make that clear in his tweets. at one point he reminded the cia of their mistakes or iraq wmd
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when denouncing the intelligence suggesting russia had hacked the election. so that feud was real. and this was an attempt to reassure the workforce. but as jeremy said in a sense, it backfired. not everyone believes it backfired. there were cia officers there who had asked to be there, who cheered donald trump as he left after the remarks. i talked to one former official source of mine who said, you guys just don't get that this man is not like other presidents, and sew he's going to be like this, he's going to be unscripted, and that was not a problem. and that him going to meet these people was a good thing. but it's just the nature of these remarks. rambling, self-reverential, unscripted in front of these stars, was striking. president obama, his first visit to the cia in april 2009, he gave a very scripted, very careful speech where he talked about him needing the agency, and he asked them to go to work for him, and he talked a little bit about the history of the cia and the nature of the wall.
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there was none of that from donald trump today, brian. >> and brian, can i add, i was there on april 20th, 2009, when president obama visited langley. it was his first trip there. what was very interesting to me about that visit wasn't what he said. i was in the room when a senior officer stood up and said to the new president, mr. president, you're rolling back interrogation policies, you're sort of talking about disclosing things that we did under the previous administration, we want to make sure you understand and you get that we are in the fight of our lives. that al qaeda is dangerous. do you kind of get what we're up against? i think at that point it really sunk in for the new president. i'm hoping president trump receives some feedback today from the officers out there about how serious their job is, how important it is that he take them seriously, and that he have their back. >> and jeremy, when you first -- i remember the first time i came through that lobby. that wall has a way of silencing people.
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you turn and look at it and it is revered and it is hallowed. and it also represents, as do all the employees in langley, they're working in service to the people in the field. that's what the agency means. it's the work of the agency. >> yes. exactly right, brian. and he's actually standing there looking out across the marble lobby at a statue of bill donovan, the founder of the oss, and at a quote which is the agency's motto, a quote from john from the new testament chapter 8, "and ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free." that's their motto and they believe in facts. any person, any leader, any president, who doesn't accept their facts, accept their assessments, is going to have an inevitable clash, inevitable collision with people who ground their work in facts. >> jeremy bash, ken delaney, gentlemen, thank you for joining us on a saturday night for this discussion. very important. very vital.
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we appreciate your time. another break for us. when we come back, we'll look once again at our lead story. what did we witness today? what happened today across this country and around the world? indeed, the potential to be the largest social movement since the '60s and '70s.
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this is a wakeup call for so many people. we cannot sit idly by and let hate dominate our national conversation, it just can't be. >> so much seemed skewed about what i believe in and what i understand to be america. and i wanted to come up and say, hey, i believe something different and i'm still part of this country. >> we should be doing something sooner. instead of having to rereact we should be more proactive. that's what's going to have to happen for things to change.
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>> we can't sit back and act like, oh, he won, we don't have to do any more now, it's over. this has to be our start, not our finish. >> if you don't do something, you voted for him. >> demonstrations and their size and scope beyond the wildest dreams of even the organizers of today. what does it all mean? our discussion coming up.
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we are back. and this was the day we witnessed. much more than just a split-screen day across this country. millions of people on the streets of major cities and small towns across this country. and more than that around the world. the march that started with a concentration on washington, d.c. and new york. before americans were even up this morning, it had already played out in overseas capitals like london, rome, and paris. and as the time zones went west, we saw it in mexico city, as we saw it along the united states
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west coast. the historian doug brinkley, who is not given to hyperbole, said tonight that watching the president's remarks and performance over at cia headquarters, he acted like a 7-year-old child and that his behavior was troubling and worrisome. but let's talk about what we saw unfold in the streets especially uh this country. kareem jean pierre, senior adviser and national spokes man for moveon.org. she is a veteran of democratic politics. i quoted this to congresswoman maxine waters at the top of the broadcast. the "new york times" is saying tonight in its subhead, "hints of a sustained campaign of protest." can you confirm? do you call for this to be a
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sustained campaign of protest? >> well, here's what i would say, brian, to that. in his divisive -- talking about donald trump, in his divisive inaugural speech yesterday, he talked about giving the power back to the people. well, today the people responded. and now they have a movement. and what they're doing is they're standing up against every horrible "ism" that donald trump stands for. and the other thing to remember too is he is not the people's president. and we see this with the record low approval ratings for an incoming president. and so today was -- i mean, it was historical on so many levels. we've been talking about how this is the first time that we see an inaugural protest that is so large, that is in 600 cities, in seven continents, millions of people are now activated and ready to go out there and do something.
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and i think we'll see that. i don't think it stops with today. i think in the next couple of days we'll see people going out there, having community meetings, and also continuing to hold protests. because we have to make sure that our voices are heard and that we keep donald trump's feet to the fire. >> but as i asked the congresswoman earlier, i think it's a fair question to ask of you. where were you all november 8th? >> i agree. i think that's a very good question. i think we were complacent. i think there was a sense of, we got this in the bag and we didn't come out the way that we should have. and also, let's not forget as well, there was a toxic brew that was happening as well which was, as we know, the russian hacking, the wikileaks, the dnc e-mails, the voter suppression in key states. north carolina, wisconsin, and other states as well. and so a lot of things led to what we saw on november 8th. but yes, we were complacent. i think what needs to happen now
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moving forward, the call to action, is do what president obama said. pick up a clipboard. we have an election in 2018. we need -- i think we need people to go out there and run themselves. and make sure that we show up for the midterms. >> would you name the next one the women's march, despite its name, it sure gathered a lot of men and children and families today in the nation's big cities. >> it sure did. it was very -- it was very diverse. you saw as you mentioned men, you saw diversity with age. they had grandmothers coming there bringing their kids. you had 3-month-old, 2-year-olds out there with their family. so i would -- what i'm hearing is every 10 days there might an protest. that's the word that i'm hearing. so i do believe that this is a broader part, a bigger part, it's going to be a bigger part of a movement that we'll be seeing in the future.
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>> corinne jean pierre, thank you very much for being with us tonight after this incredible day. we'll just continue to look at these pictures. as we kind of assess what we all witnessed across this country today. again, the main location always was going to be washington, d.c. once we got into the morning, with americans having arisen to scenes of what had happened already in europe, then it took off across new york city. it went way beyond the boundaries that organizers had established. we saw it reach out into the pacific northwest. we saw it reach north to boston, west to chicago, further west to san francisco and los angeles. and by midday, eastern time, the organizers knew they were looking at something absolutely extraordinary indeed. what could be what has the potential to be the largest kind
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of coming-forth of organized activity since the '60s and '70s. lawrence o'donnell standing by in new york to continue our in the final weeks after the angriest and most devisive campaign in history the outcome seemed all but certain. >> they're all donald trump is set to lose in a barry goldwater. i would like not to be on that train when it crashes. >> i think he doesn't win the popular vote once california rolls in but he blew all of our predictions and models and you name it, out of the

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