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down into your joints. take it from me. it works fast and you won't stink. blue-emu, it works for me it'll work for you. hi, everybody. good sunday morning. i'm thomas roberts in washington, d.c. it is 9:00 in the east, 6:00 a.m. out west, and here's what's happening. we have day three of the trump administration. it begins today with more from the new president's visit to the cia. >> incredibly, almost everybody in this room voted for me, but i will not ask you to raise your hands if you did. but i would guarantee a big portion. and first impressions. new reaction to this -- the administration's postinaugural statement from the briefing room by the new white house press secretary. >> photographs of the inaugural proceedings were intentionally framed in a way in one
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particular tweet, to minimize the enormous support. meanwhile, coast to coast, a million plus, from city to city, all rally with a message to this new administration. i'm going to ask someone who marched what's next for these people. but we begin with breaking news out of georgia. officials now confirming 11 people have been killed, 23 others injured, in the southern part of the state. information just coming in to us. but a severe weather system has been sweeping across the southern region in the past two evenings. this is live radar we were just showing you a moment ago of that swath of the country. meanwhile, we have this new video in from overnight in vivien, louisiana. reports of damaged homes, downed trees. construction crews were called in overnight to free people that were trapped on specific roads, and this is all just coming in one day after four people were killed in hattiesburg, mississippi. hundreds of structures there also sustained major damage. so, we continue to monitor the weather situation there.
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if we can throw the radar back up to show you live images again to make sure you are up to speed on that major weather system. you can see it from pensacola up to charleston and north. we'll have updates for you through this hour. right here in d.c., we are under the first 100 days, and new reaction from the white house to the mass demonstration for women's rights and equality. president trump tweeted this morning -- "watched protests yesterday but was under the impression that we just had an election! why didn't these people vote? celebs hurt cause badly." now, it followed a trump administration official statement this morning, which began, "it's a shame that the march for life," which estimates the same number of marchers in d.c. and will be happening next friday, "will not get anywhere near the same amount of coverage that this march got, and those pro-life members were not welcome at the women's march." the trump administration welcomes a robust discussion regarding critical issues facing women and america's families.
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sean spicer ignored shouted questions in the press briefing room, lashing out at the media over coverage of crowd size for trump's inauguration. >> this was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period, both in american and around the globe. this kind of dishonesty in the media, the challenging bringing our nation together is more difficult. in the media, they want to hold donald trump accountable and we're going to hold the press accountable as well. >> again, the president tweeting from his @realdonaldtrump handle this morning, not the potus handle. he's also tweeted about television ratings today, saying 30 million people watched the inauguration, 11 million more than the very good ratings from four years ago, but we had this image yesterday. president trump targeting the media during that visit to the cia, while standing before the stars of the fallen.
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>> i am with you 1,000%. and the reason you're my first stop is that as you know, i have a running war with the media. they are among the most dishonest human beings on earth. and they sort of made it sound like i had a feud with the intelligence community. and i just want to let you know, the reason you're the number one stop is exactly the opposite, exactly. and they understand that, too. >> president trump wrapping up a working weekend with an agenda that includes a phone call with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu later today. on friday of this coming week, he's going to meet with british prime minister theresa may during her trip to the u.s. and then will meet with mexican president pena nieto on tuesday. from the white house, kelly o'donnell has the latest, day two of donald trump's full presidency. kelly, you were there for the press secretary's full statement, which we can talk about more in a second.
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but begin with the reaction of the optics and tone of the cia visit from president trump. >> reporter: yes, good morning, thomas. of course, that statement happened right here in the briefing room. and i've got a couple updates on the president's schedule looking forward today. he will be swearing in what are known as the assistants to the president. that's the highest level of white house advisers and staff here. we expect to see him on camera for that later today. i'm also told he will have a phone call with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu. now, all of this comes while the white house is putting together its schedule moving forward on the things that are sort of the traditional early white house phase that i just outlined. but we have this whole other story line of the contentious relationship the president has with the media, his critiques over coverage that are coming at a hyper pace. and he made his initial critiques about coverage of his inauguration and the crowd size in a place that really seemed unexpected. he did so at his very first visit to the central intelligence agency, standing before about 400 of their
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officers and operatives. the president's first trip to the central intelligence agency. welcomed with applause by agency employees whose faces cannot be shown. >> i love you. i respect you. there's nobody i respect more. >> reporter: such affection coming after obvious friction with the spy agency. trump blew that off as a media creation. >> they sort of made it sound like i had a feud with the intelligence community. >> reporter: trump ignored his own words and tweets, this month where he used quote marks to diminish "intelligence" and made a stinging comparison. >> i think it was disgraceful, disgraceful, that the intelligence agencies allowed any information that turned out to be so false and fake, and that's something that nazi germany would have done and did do. >> reporter: the stars behind trump honor the lives of fallen clandestined officers, yet he
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aired his complaints about media coverage of the crowd size at his inaugural. >> they showed a field where there were practically nobody standing there. >> reporter: and that was too much for former cia director john brennan, who called the visit "a despicable display of self aggrandizement in front of cia's memorial wall of agency heroes." back at the white house, trump's press secretary used his first appearance in the white house press briefing room to go after the media and claiming media outlets undercut the crowd deliberately, despite widely available photographic evidence that undercut his own claims. >> these attempts to lessen the enthusiasm of the inauguration are shameful and wrong. >> reporter: part of what makes this so complicated in many ways, thomas, is that there is no official number of crowd count provided by the national parks service, which has control of the mall where the ceremonies took place. so, when the media does these calculations, they use photos,
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some sligatellite imagery and things like the transportation in the area where they have passenger ride levels. so, that's part of it. that's why there is sort of this differing view, and the white house pushback is so vigorous. now, this morning the president is already using his twitter. you may recall, we were first to report last week that he was keeping the @realdonaldtrump. he's added about a million followers on that over the last week. a couple tweets pertain to what we were talking about. on the cia visit -- "i had a great meeting at cia headquarters yesterday, packed house." here he says "paid great respect to the wall." others take issue with his political comments in front of the memorial wall. back to his tweet -- "longstanding ovations, amazing people," and he calls that a win. he also said that he watch ad the protests yesterday that had not been clear to us if he was noting what was happening in washington around the country. and here's where he's critical of that. but "was under the impression that we had just had an election" with the exclamation
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point. "why didn't these people vote? celebs hurt cause badly." so, what you have here is from the twitter account of the president and then sort of infused in the top advisers who are speaking out today, pushing back against the march, the celebrities, the media, very sort of hostile environment starting things off. thomas? >> just based on sean spicer's delivery of numbers -- and i watched that yesterday with you as he was giving the characterization of spacing, 250,000 here and 250,000 there, it adds up to 720,000, not the 1.5 million used in hyperbole in front of the wall by donald trump at the cia. so, we are seeing as you point out, @realdonaldtrump continue to tweet, and these are not tweets that appear at the potus handle. so we continue to watch the united states of trump or united twitter handles of trump explain this all away. kelly, thanks so much. great work. we will talk to you soon. and now we get more information about those rallies we witnessed with a million-plus people from across the nation and around the
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world, rallied at women's marches in a show of solidarity and defiance. officials say the d.c. rally attracted more than 500,000 people, making it one of the largest in the district's history. nbc's morgan radford is in new york city, and that's where morgan was following along for i believe over 12 hours from dawn to dusk, along with those marchers. and morgan, let's talk about these numbers and the expectations. what did it do to new york city yesterday? >> reporter: well, we know that about 400,000 people packed the streets here in new york city, thomas. and as you mentioned, we were there from start to finish. they completely brought traffic to a standstill. but to get you a sense of just how historic that is, the historic march on washington back in 1963, that saw about 250,000 people. then the million man march in 1995, 400,000 people. and that shows you just the scale and the duration of what people are now calling the single largest day protest here in united states history. take a listen.
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coast to coast and across the world, demonstrators turned out in force for the women's march, with pink hats, bright signs and a big message. >> i want my daughter to know she has a voice. >> reporter: people spilling into the streets, their message underscored with star power. >> welcome to the revolution! >> reporter: political icons telling americans that women's rights must be protected. >> this is a day that will change us forever because we are together. >> reporter: by the people and by the president. >> mr. trump, we are here to end the trump carnage! >> reporter: in d.c., this was the scene on inauguration day. the next day, the washington mall packed with even more people, demonstrating on president trump's first day in office. in new york, thousands pounding the pavement in front of trump tower. >> i knew i could not sit at home. >> i think we need to be active,
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not just today but for the next four years. >> reporter: crowds calling on their leadership for change. >> what is your message for coming out here? >> my message is we're going to keep fighting. we're not going to let them take away women's rights. we're not going to let him defund planned parenthood and we're not going to let him repeal obamacare. >> reporter: in philadelphia, more than 50,000 people covered ben franklin parkway. out west, seattle police standing in solidarity with demonstrators for three miles, tweeting, "we're going the distance with you." at sundance film festival in utah, not even the snow could slow them down. >> the silver lining of this election is that we are here in literally 21 degrees supporting each other. >> reporter: thomas, the scale of these marches was pretty stunning. not only here in the united states but also in cities across the globe. you look at places like sydney,
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paris, london, even in antarctica. thomas? >> and so, morgan, for those domestic marchers, lightning in a bottle yesterday. what are organizers saying about how they actually capitalize on that moving forward? >> reporter: it was interesting. you know, i asked them, what do you expect to see out of this? because the reality of it is, donald trump is your president, even though they were having signs that said he's not my president. and they said, look, morgan, it's really not about trying to get him out of office. we understand that's not a real option at this point, but this is about showing solidarity, moving forward with those people who felt marginalized by his comments leading up to the white house, and they also said it's about showing those recently confirmed cabinet members that they're out here in force. thomas? >> morgan radford in new york city for us. morgan, thanks so much. i want to bring into the conversation, yammisha cinder and also kaitlin huey burns, political reporter for real clear politics. good morning to both of you.
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yamish, you covered the march, so let's start with the white house reaction to it, and i want to give more of that to folks watching. as they say, the trump administration welcoming a robust discussion regarding the critical issues facing america's women and families. that was the end of the statement. when we look at the whole response, do you think it should have been flipped? should the white house have started there? >> i mean, it's up to the white house how they want to communicate about this march. i think i'm also really interested in the fact that donald trump was saying, where were these people when the election happened? and we just had an election. so, in some ways calling into question why people are taking to the streets and also there was that statement by the white house talking about the march for life and whether or not that was going to get as much coverage. but the main thing here is that donald trump is feeling the pressure, obviously, from these protests. and that was the goal of these protests. i talked to so many women yesterday who said they really wanted to send a message and really wanted to walk all the way to the white house to deliver that message, to let donald trump know, hey, we're serious and we really are going
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to be watching you. and i think that donald trump is showing this morning that he got that message. >> and so, kaitlin, do you expect democrats to have leverage here? as historians point out, donald trump winning the white house on a populist message but not having the popular vote. democrats, they do not have majorities, whether in the senate or in congress. we hear chuck schumer there saying they're going to fight back, but how? >> right. well, they won't have much political capital to use when it comes to the nominations for trump's cabinet, but where they can flex their political muscle will be on key items of legislation that trump and republicans want to pass and also when it comes to the supreme court fight, for example, the supreme court nomination, which democrats are trying to -- will expect to fight. they will need 60 votes to enact new legislation, new policy. and it's particularly important when it comes to the health care law. yes, republicans can repeal the law on their own, but in order
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to enact new policy, they're going to need support from some democrats. but i also think we have to look at the trump administration having, you know, different kinds of coalitions in congress. he stood at the foot of the capitol in his inauguration address and said kind of, you know, railing against the establishment in his inaugural address, saying that, essentially saying that republicans and democrats alike. and so, i think you're going to see some democrats support some of the things he proposes, some republicans resisting some of the things he proposes, particularly when it comes to taxes, particularly when it comes to some elements of health care policy. so it's really interesting to watch kind of what these coalitions will look like under the trump administration. but i think you're seeing democrats, you know, really not giving trump a honeymoon period because of his low approval ratings and because of, you know, this kind of outrage from the public that you saw yesterday. >> meanwhile, yamiche, the sean spicer briefing yesterday from
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the white house press room -- no questions were answered by sean. monday is the first official press briefing where he is expected to take questions. but does this set the tone moving forward? >> this completely set the tone of this administration. i think calling into question whether or not the media was getting things right is something that sean is going to be doing i think every single time he gets up to that podium. it felt as though he was really setting a hostile tone toward the media. and i should say, i think that there were some inaccuracies. the idea that he would somehow say that this was the largest inauguration in history, period, without actually providing numbers and without actually being able to have official crowd count numbers, that's really problematic, because we're not in the campaign anymore. now we're talking about taxpayer-funded untruths, essentially, and i think that that's problematic. and the other thing i want to say is that reported in that room, i think he's telling us, you know what, if you want to hold donald trump accountable, we're not only going to push back against you, but we are going to say that you also have issues with your accountability. and i think that that continues
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what donald trump was doing his entire campaign by calling out fake news, by not taking questions from cnn or other publications from banning people. so, i think this is really going to be a tough four years for the media. >> and we know, caitlin, "the new york times" characterizing the trump remarks from the cia and then spicer's remarks, saying that trump's remarks were devoted to attacking the news media. mr. spicer picking up that theme later in the day. but his appearance, according to people familiar with mr. trump's thinking went too far. but the tone comes from the top. so caitlin, is the press secretary just following through with the tone that's been sent characteristically by the president? >> well, this is a tone that was set during the campaign. and i think yamiche brings up an important point between the transition between campaigning and governing is not something that the trump administration has really acknowledged to this point. if you talk to trump supporters -- and i talked to a lot of them out and at inauguration day on the capitol grounds -- and they said you know, they like this kind of
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approach. some of them want him to tone it down a bit, but others do see the media as a major component of this. and so, to them, trump going after the media is setting the tone for his administration, and they like that kind of thing. but what it also highlights is that, you know, the big difference between governing for all and the difference between campaigning. and trump with this statement from the white house, with the comments in front of the cia, has kind of shown that he is campaigning still, talking to a specific group of people that helped to vote him into office. and i don't think that's something that we're going to see change, at least not very quickly. if we're looking for a new kind of donald trump as he assumes the highest office in the land, i don't think we're going to see much change in terms of his style, approach and his thought process. >> caitlin and yamiche, great to
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hello, women of massachusetts! we can whimper, we can whine, or we can fight back. >> there we have senator elizabeth warren in boston yesterday. out west we had massive turnouts in hundreds of cities. let's take a look at the numbers. seattle, 120,000. portland, 100,000. tucson, 6,000. many rallying for hours in park city, utah, as well. 5,000 turning out in boise, idaho. and in anchorage, thousands marched in the snow to send a message of solidarity.
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these were different sister marches happening yesterday like the one here in d.c. but with me now is denise galvez, a supporter of president trump and co-founder of latinas for america. great to have you with me. i know you were asked to speak at the march in miami, but you were actually in d.c. for the inauguration. do you have any regret about that, having that opportunity to showcase a different voice? >> i didn't feel that i was going to actually offer, you know, be able to offer that different voice after reading some of their materials and their mission statement online. so i obviously wanted to be a part of the inauguration, so i preferred to go to d.c. anyhow. >> and denise, organizers of these marches said they wanted it to be nonpolitical, but there's really no denying that this was a lot of anti-trump sentiment yesterday driven by reaction to the president. so, do you think that there was a certain message or a certain tone yesterday that this white house does need to listen to and
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respond to, more so than what we've seen this morning? >> i do think that there was a certain tone. and by the way, i found the tone in many cases to be quite offensive and inappropriate. and so, i was kind of glad that i didn't partake because i think that if you want to be heard, you need to be respectful of everybody, you know, including people who don't agree with you. and so, i definitely think mr. trump needs to listen to them. i appreciated the entire act and their right to speak out on things like reproductive rights. i obviously don't agree with them on all points, but they need to be heard and that's fine, and i hope the movement continues. >> and we know that president trump's statement today said they expect a robust debate to come up on women's medical choice and also family issues. and if we look at history, 2010, two years after president obama came into office, we had democrats suffering these massive losses in the midterms, losing the house, shrinking the majority in the senate. how much pressure do you think is on the trump administration to act and act fast if they
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don't want to lose the upper hand now with what they have here in washington, d.c.? >> well, i think that those of us who supported him are absolutely watching and making sure he acts fast on a lot of other issues, not necessarily the issues that were discussed in the protest. and i mean, one of the things that they did talk about in the protest a lot was the health care and repealing obamacare and not repealing obamacare, and that's actually something that the people who voted for him wanted him to repeal right away. we want him to put something in place, obviously, as well, but that's one of the topics that came up a lot yesterday in a lot of the discussions and in the topics at the protest. and i agree that he needs to address that right away. >> denise, great to have you on. i'm glad you made it back to miami safely, where it is probably a lot prettier and much warmer than it is in washington, d.c. >> yes. >> denise, thank you very much. >> thank you, thomas. all right, so, reaching out to the intelligence community. whether or not trump's visit did enough to repair this relationship from his administration and the cia. boost
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good morning, and welcome back. i'm thomas roberts reporting in washington, d.c. and we want to begin with something that we're following for you live, this breaking news out of georgia. officials confirming 11 people have been killed, 23 others injured in the southern part of the state. and you can see this is live radar right now of that major swath of a system moving from pensacola up through charleston. information is coming into us, but we do continue to watch this severe system that is moving across the southern region. it's been happening over the past two nights. and we will keep you posted through those developments today here on msnbc. we turn our attention brack to politics and new reaction from president trump's adviser over the fallout on the press secretary briefing yesterday where sean spicer spent that time lashing out at the media for its coverage of crowd size at the inauguration. here's what kellyanne conway told chuck todd just moments ago. >> on this matter of crowd size,
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i think it is a symbol for the unfair and incomplete treatment that this president often receives. >> you did not answer the question of why the president asked the white house press secretary to come out in front of the podium for the first time and utter a falsehood. why did he do that? it undermines the credibility of the entire white house press office on day one. >> no, it doesn't. don't be so overly dramatic about it, chuck. you're saying it's a falsehood, and they're giving sean spicer, our press secretary gave alternative facts to that. but the point really is -- >> wait a minute, alternative facts? alternative facts? four of the five facts he ultimatered. the one thing -- four of the five were just not true. look, alternative facts are not facts. >> all right, so, we do have a fact with donald trump taking to twitter once again within the last seven minutes saying "peaceful protests are a hallmark of our democracy. even if i don't always agree. i recognize the rights of people to express their views."
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again, this is the president expressing himself via twitter from the @realdonaldtrump handle, not the @potus handle that he now has control of. i want to bring in crystal ball, democratic strategist and senior fellow at the new leaders council, robert traynham, analyst and former bush/cheney senior adviser and charlie sy s sykes, wnyc and msnbc contributor. happy sunday morning to you. robert, let me ask you about the alternative facts that we just heard there from kellyanne conway talking to chuck todd. what in the hell does that mean? >> i don't know exactly what that means. look, the reality is, is that we have two sets of facts here. we have fact that it's common known, thomas, today is sunday morning. it is january. it is the day after the inauguration. we know that. >> how do you know? >> we know that. well, we know that because those are collective things that we
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all agree to. there is a calendar. there is a record of events. we all can agree to that. however, the alternative facts that the white house, unfortunately, is coming out with just simply does not jive with the truth. and the unfortunate thing is -- and i say this in all truth defense here -- sean spicer's a very good friend of mine. i'm very proud of him. but for him to go out there and to literally put his neck out there, tells me one thing, he is doing that under the clear direction of the president of the united states. president trump probably said, mr. spicer, you go out there and say x, y and z. i assume he said, mr. president, that's not what everyone else is saying. mr. trump said, did you hear what i said, go out there and do x, y or z. this is unfortunate. this is the new reality. and the question is how do we, the american people, adjust to this new reality. >> i think for folks at home, we can all afford to say we know sean, think he's a great guy personally and know he's got one heck of a job ahead of him, especially if he is going to be put out on the front lines. and to make a statement like
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that, not taking questions where people can hold, you know, truth to power on certain fronts. but crystal, let me ask you, there is a new definitional language coming from donald trump. and while robert makes a great point, yes, we can agree on what today's date is and other facts, there seems to be a very gray area about what certain information will mean from this white house, and are they losing credibility from that briefing? >> i think they start to. and to robert's point about sean, i don't know that is a more horrifying position to hold than being president trump's official mouthpiece, which is what sean spicer is. and this is day one, and they step out. i mean, things are never going to be better for donald trump than they are right now. nothing is going to be more fun than the transition and picking your people. nothing is going to be greater than having a big inauguration to celebrate your victory. so, this is the way that you respond on day one.
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you can imagine where things are going. and what makes this a little bit different than -- i mean, we all know and we've been reporting on the fact that donald trump and kellyanne conway and sean spicer and his whole team lie routinely. there's just no other way to put it. what makes this sort of unique is, number one, it's so petty. ultimately, who cares how many people went to the inauguration? number two, because it is so early and sets the tone for what is going to come in this administration, which is only going to get worse for him and for the country as we watch him undermine the free press and our really democratic tradition. and number three, i just, you know, you would hope that once he got into office there would be some assumption of the gravity of who he is and what he's doing and what this means to everyone. and if anyone had any hope remaining that that was going to be the case, it's not going to be. so i do think eventually, when you see with your own eyes that
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the crowd is much smaller than obama's crowd -- it just is -- and you hear them going after the press in this way, eventually, i have to think that people start to say, you know what, maybe the press is right from time to time. >> well, and charlie, let me ask you, because obviously, donald trump won the white house. the electoral college algorithm that secured him this position is true, it is fact. it was a populist message. however, there is a contingent in this country under the popular vote that did not send donald trump to the white house in a mandate, and there were people yesterday at the same time he was appearing at the cia that were taking to marches not just in this country but internationally. and as quick as he is with his thumbs on twitter sometimes, you would think he would have responded to the tweet we got today about respecting these protests, maybe yesterday. are you shocked at the slow response? >> i'm beyond being shocked by anything that's happening with this administration at this particular point. but you know, it was remarkable
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that you send the press secretary out to talk about crowd sizes on a day in which probably if you're the president, you don't wanted to be focusing on crowd sizes, considering how many people turned out. look, sean spicer's performance yesterday was cringe-worthy. he is in baghdad bob territory right now. but i actually think this is worse than others, because it's not just a matter of alternative facts and whether or not the administration lies. you know, the trump administration has a dual strategy here. number one, they understand how unpopular the media is. the media is extremely unpopular, especially with the base, so this is a political winner from that point of view. but the second element is to delegitimize any of these outlets, to delegitimize not just the media, but this whole concept of facts. you know, we talked during the campaign about being a posttruth political culture. we're now seeing this in action right now, that what he's trying to do, it's not just a question
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of is he undermining the credibility of the administration. they're actually waging war against credibility itself. so, the fact that we are in day three of the trump administration, we already have the phrase "alternative facts" out there is i think a leading indicator of who we are up against. >> and robert, we did get information from sean spicer during that statement about theresa may, the uk prime minister, coming, the first foreign leader to visit president trump, by friday. i've been reading information about how she wants to characterize this relationship to make sure that while she is helming brexit, their exit from the eu, that she wants donald trump to respect nato and to respect the eu. can they have that type of relationship, knowing what donald trump represented on his way to the white house? >> you know, thomas, this is the real test. it's called the special relationship between the u.s. and the uk that obviously goes way back to world war ii between winston churchill and franklin roosevelt. and even when in the height of
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disagreement between the u.s. and the uk, meaning during the falkland war when rond reagan was president and margaret thatcher, the two countries came together because they had a shared sense of values and a shared sense of how they look at the world. so, if in fact they don't look at the world the same way, meaning with a president trump saying nato is useless, we need to perhaps rethink nato because some countries do not pay their bills, these are fundamental cracks in the relationship between us and the uk. and so, if i'm theresa may, the prime minister, i'm very concerned. i'm very concerned about the shared outlook about what our two countries look at the world, but also very concerned about the relationship between the two entities in itself. so i suspect theresa may, based on what i've read, will be very frank with this president, says look, are you with me or against me? because if you're against me, we need to part ways right now. very fascinating. >> we know that winston churchill is back in the oval office, krystal and we know that
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martin luther king remains in the oval office. another thing sean spicer missed was the dust-up by "time" magazine saying they did not see the mlk bust in the oval office and apologized with that mistake, which sean spicer accepted, but drudged that up yesterday, laying a foundational point that they can't trust the media. did the media really mess up and give them an easy open there? >> well, they did, frankly. and it's unfortunate, because in normal times you could say, we got it wrong, i'm sorry, move on. but in these times, anything like that is used, is weaponized and used by the administration to say, see, you shouldn't believe a word that they say about anything. and so, when you do that and when you use twitter as an alternative so you can speak directly to the people, and when you lie and call it alternative facts, you set up a situation where we just aren't dealing as a nation with a common set of even understanding of what's
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going on in the country. and that's ultimately what donald trump and other populist demagogues like him around the world feed on. they feed on that division. they feed on this idea that one group doesn't get it and is lying and the other group is worthy, and that's the true representatives of the people. so, that's what they will seize on. and so, we have to be extra careful in the press to make sure that we are being fair and are getting everything right. >> correct. >> because there is an opportunity here to try to restore some credibility to the press, and that's going to be desperately needed. >> everybody wants to show up every day and do a great job for whatever profession they represent. and charlie, just from what you're hearing from conservative people, you know, obviously, liberals or democrats are kind of shocked right now. are conservatives holding back, or are they feeling rattled as well by what they've witnessed in just the last couple of days? >> well, i think that some of them are rattled by the inaugural address, which was, of course, very, very dark and very, very aggressive, but it
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was very, very unconservative. and i think it's dawning on some folks that this populist-nationalist message is very much not in line with reagan conservatism. but i'll tell you what i'm hearing from a lot of folks in washington, which is the mantra, look, watch what we do, don't pay attention to what we say, there's two different tracks here. what the president says on the podium is one thing. what he is doing with the executive orders, what he is doing when he sits down with paul ryan and mitch mcconnell may be very, very different. the problem is, when you're the president, what you say and what you do are not -- you can't bifurcate them that dramatically, but that's kind of the mantra, that there are two donald trumps. there's the donald trump on policy and there's the donald trump on rhetoric. and this is what they're saying to reassure conservatives who, in fact, are a little bit rattled about the message that you're getting out of the administration. >> yeah, the message, take him seriously, in and out literally, when it comes to what the president is saying. but just so the three of you
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know, donald trump is tweeting about tv ratings. krystal, robert, charlie, great to see you. >> important stuff. >> and i'll be talking about that straight ahead as we do remember trump's inauguration. the numbers, how they do compare to past presidents and what donald trump is saying about it. my business was built with passion... but i keep it growing by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing. and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... which adds fuel to my bottom line. what's in your wallet?
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all right, welcome back. we have more news breaking out of georgia. officials confirming 11 people there have been killed, 23 others injured during the severe weather system that has struck the southern part of the state. now, information is just coming in, but this has been a system, and as you see it, from pensacola all the way north up to charleston, just hammering through, sweeping past this region over the past two nights. and the weather channel's reynolds wolf has more on this. but first, just take a look at that picture. that's from georgia, in adele. reynolds, what can we expect today? >> thomas, what a mess we have across parts of the country, especially in the deep south in terms of severe weather.
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we've got a great risk, a great risk of very powerful and possibly long-track tornadoes for portions of alabama, georgia, and north florida. looks like by the afternoon things could really get volatile. it was already volatile during the morning hours. and in terms of our torque y-co it's a 6 out of ten. georgia, 7 out of 10. so, 70% chance of tornadoes forming in this region. in alabama, parts of florida, too, it's a 4 out of 10, but those numbers are nonstatic. they may change and maybe go on the uptick through the afternoon. moving forward in time, we see the showers and storms racing across, but it's going to be by mid to late afternoon where we're going to have the atmosphere really unleash with power, and with it, the chance of strong storms and the tornadoes. folks, find that safe place to go, should severe weather come calling. thomas, back to you. >> reynolds, thank you very much. we will keep an eye on that severe system. next, i'm going to be asking a speaker from yesterday's d.c. rally about how marchers can
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all right. so more on the rallies yesterday of women marching across the country. how do people that turned out actually turn this into something more than just a day
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of support but a way to get people elected. win wendy spoke at the march here in the nation's capital and joins me here in the studio. wendy, you fly back tonight. you're running for district 34, the javier becerra's seat that he's vacating. what do you take with you back to california? >> i think one of the most lessons is what happens when women get together and mobilize and organize. this is an incredible opportunity for women to stand up and say i will not allow this congress to dictate choices over my body or my family and we need to run. so what we saw across the world and here in d.c. are just women ready to take those positions. >> so many folks will push back and say it's great to see so many people showing up, women showing up and men showing up to support women's issues, but where were these folks on election day where we could have seen history deliver the first female president? >> well, i think it's important to not say where women haven't been. we're here now and so clearly it
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is a moment in which the entire country is seeing like what can happen when we don't vote, when there's voter apathy, when there's low voter turnout and when the members of congress don't represent the issues that you care about. people say my vote doesn't matter, but it does. so clearly there's a difference. >> so how do you take what you witnessed yesterday and we know there were rallies that happened in california as well. how do you use that to get elected in the midterms coming up in two years? >> so there's midterms and there's my special election and it's about organizing. now there's a momentum. people are feeling like we don't want this guy as a president, but certainly he's there now, so how do we control or take back the house and how do we begin to work towards legislation that actually helps and impacts families. >> can you work with a president trump? >> ike we need to first work in the democratic party and make sure we're all on the same page, organized and working towards movement building. >> we'll watch your special
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election coming up. safe travels back to california. that's going to do it for this hour of coverage. i did thomas roberts. i appreciate your time. an unprecedented time for journalists, time. it is a great time for words and images and facts. straight ahead, "a.m. joy" with joy reid talking about just that. how the success of these rallies across the nation over the weekend turn into real political action. stay tuned for that and then alex witt taking up right here at noon eastern on msnbc. ♪ and the seagulls they'll be smilin ♪ ♪ and the rocks on the sand it's so peaceful out here. yeah. introducing the new turbocharged volkswagen alltrack with 4motion® all-wheel drive. soon to be everywhere.
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