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the president expecting the sit-down at the white house with brpd leaders from congress. this of course the first full week of the trump presidency. that is going to do it for this hour. i'm steve kornacki here in new york and mtp daily starts rig now. if it's monday, president trump gets to work. tonight, just the facts. the white house begins it's bold new agenda while facing a crisis of credibility. >> sometimes we can disagree with the facts. plus a matter of ethics. is president trump already violating the constitution? we'll talk to one of the attorneys suing the president. >> we are going to need to see the president's tax returns. >> later, we'll look at the democrats road map in the age of trump. this is mtp daily, and it starts right now.
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good evening, i'm in new york for chuck todd. and welcome to mtp daily, and welcome to an unusual and sometimes wild day at trump white house following a weekend of new beginnings, new controversies, and of course, a memorable new phrase from trumpland on meet the press, alternative facts. now in it's first full workday, two sides of the trump white house were on display. an ambition to shake up a washington as promised, and serious questions about the administration's credibility. so, with everything on the line, here is the big question. what are they going to do and do they have the credibility to do it? trump is scheduled to meet with congressional leaders from both parties at the white house for the first time, that's right now. we're expecting new footage from inside the meeting and we'll bring it to you live. now to the significant issue of white house credibility, white house press secretary sean spicer today holding his first white house briefing with the white house press corps. and attempting to smooth over his relationship there after it
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got off to a rocky and indeed unusual start following his tirade against white house reporters this weekend for their reporting on inaugural crowd size. now it was an address that included several false claims that were immediately disproven at the time. here's spicer speaking with reporters today with his cribity on the line. >> is it your intention to always tell the truth from that podium and will you pledge never to knowingly say something that is not factual? >> it is. it's an honor to do this. and yes. i believe that we have to be honest with the american people. i think sometimes we can disagree with the facts. there are certain things that we may not fully understand when we come out, our intention is never to lie to you, jonathan. >> that was clearly an effort to offer time and professionalism to be assembled reporters today. contrast that tone with what we saw just this weekend from spicer when he was at the lectern for the first time and he tore into the press over that
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crowd size issue. >> no one had numbers because the national park service which controls the national mall does not put any out. this was the largest audience to ever witness an inauguration, period. both in person and around the globe. these attempts to lessen the enthusiasm of the inauguration are shameful and wrong. >> spicer walked back part of that message today noting some of those figures were wrong. but he also doubled down on the notion that this trump administration will aggressively dispute facts from the press. and he seemed to cast government misinformation as the same as reporters making any factual mistakes. he also pressed the argument that the media audience for the inauguration was the largest. an apparent effort to thread the needle on that crowd size issue. now that was the message. what about the substance today? the white house to be clear is considering major reforms on obamacare, on trade, on russia, or immigration, border security,
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and now taking action through executive power. donald trump, you see there, signing orders today to scuttle the tpp trade agreement, reenstate a ban on federal funding for organizations abroad that facilitate abortions and freezing all federal hiring except within the military. president trump today also outlining an aggressive economic agenda during a meeting with ceos. here's trump. >> we are going to be cutting taxes massively. we think we c cut regulations by 75%. maybe more. a company that wants to fire all of it's people in the united states and build some factory someplace else and then thinks that that product is just going to glow yoosz the border into the united states, that's not going to happen. they're going to have a tax to pay. a border tax. substantial border tax. >> all of this coming after hundreds of thousands of demonstrators took to the streets in washington and cities
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across the nation. large majority of participants were clearly there to protest president trump. others emphasizing they were rallying for broader women's rights issues. now let's get right to it, nbc's white house correspondent peter alexander. peter, it's always a big day in washington and for the press corps when you have this first sort of first maiden voyage if. you will, it seemed different from the overhang from this weekend. what were your thoughts in the room? >> reporter: maiden voyage not just for the press, but frankly sean spicer. his first realtime taking questions from reporters and the brady briefing room today. it was a rapid fire affair that i think focussed a lot less on the pettiness of the fight over the weekend where as you noted, he was really combative and more on the sort of policy issues. some things that struck me is notable today. specifically spicer said that the u.s. would effectively work with anybody in the fight against isis, including russia. he appeared to sort of soften his position on a variety of
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different issues that have been of concern to a lot of people who largely supported his opponent, hillary clinton. the issue of the dreamers. those folks who came into this country as the children of undocumented immigrants. basically the concern was that they may be booted out in effect that he said that was not a priority. as for that feud with the cia, remember donald trump compared members of the intelligence community to nazi, germany. he pointed to the weekend event at the central intelligence agencies headquarters to the quote hooting and hollering that took place there to sort of demonstrate this is not story whatsoever. that he has the significant backing of the intelligence community, but obviously having heard from a lot of brass within the intelligence world we know that's not entirely the case. >> and so does it feel like they are active today with the orders and what they're rolling out that there is a little more clarity, perhaps than the weekend? >> reporter: yeah, i think that's certainly the case. this was obviously much more policy-centered today. we were litigating everything as i noted from trade obviously to
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seersz of executive orders. the president signed today, i was in the oefl office where he went through this, you know, sort of unique moment. i was in the roosevelt with business leaders as well. and this is sort of a master. branding whether you like him or dislike him. it was ochb at one point today he called us -- to give you inside baseball, he rushed reporters upstairs to rush into the oval office to see him with some of these union leaders to say we had a great meeting. didn't you have a great meeting. yeah, it was excellent mr. trump. it was excellent. this is a guy who recognizes the value in trying to communicate which is why so many people were so stunned by the way this sean spicer tried to communicate which seemed to be a small issue when there were so many big issues going on right now over the course of the weekend. as it goes to the relationship with the media right now. i was struck, i asked a question in the oval office earlier today that obviously bristled some of his advisors. i was asking about that lawsuit
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regarding the u which he said it was without merit. when i was back in the oval office for another what we call a spray where the cameras were invited in to show him with the union leaders. he called me out by name, you got a little bit of trouble earlier today, okay, you're always welcome in here. so, this is a guy that's doing a little bit of a charm offensive and much the same way that advisors, including sean spicers of trying to do just a short time ago today as well. >> very interesting stuff, peter, especially as he's learning his awarned the building. thank you for your time. i want to go to our panel. policy director for mitt romney's campaign and advisor to marco rubio. ruth marcus, deputy editor with the washington post and john stanton, bureau chief with buzzfeed. john, your thoughts on what we saw today and with regard to the economy, there was one thing that hammed that was the same -- same thing as if bernie sanders had won as donald trump which was scuttling the tpp.
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>> yeah. you know, the press conference was a little bit odd i think it seemed like they did not sean spicer did his best job as he could, trying to like breeze and upset his relationship with the media and how he looks to the american public. it's odd that he was engaging, i guess a little bit on this stuff. you think that would have tried to stop with the tpp message. but you know, really sort of demonstrates how badly they're handling this right now frankly. i think what happened on saturday was a terrible thing. i mean, they just came said things that weren't true. today he tried to make it sound as if he was talking about total in your opinions. it was clear what he was talking about. people on the mall. but beyond that, you know, they're getting in their own way. right, the tpp withdraw is a major thing. and it's something one of the things that he really sort of hung his campaign on and a lot of voters wanted him to do. you would think they would try to spend 24 hours a day just talking about that. and that's it, right? >> absolutely. and that goes to something you hear about a lot which is folks
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will complain that oh the press is focussed on this stuff and we're focussed sometimes on d.c., storylines that don't have to do with the rest of the country. and that's a fair criticism as far as it goes, but again, they come out to the podium and what do they want to talk about on a day where there is this major trade news? i'll show you sean spicer here saying that suppress too negative and unfair and that's the problem. take a listen. >> we had a tweet go out about martin luther king. think about how racially charged that is. where was the apology to the president of the united states? where was the apology to millions of people who read that and thought how racially insensitive that was. where was that apology? over and over again, there is this attempt to go after this president and say well that can't be true, and that's not right, and the numbers weren't there. and those were rushed to judgment every time. and it's a two way street. we to want have a healthy and open dialogue. >> and so, ruth, you look at
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that, there's no pitician or president that's going to like all their press coverage. but, he's out there complaining about a tweet which again i'm not going to give extra air time to something that had to be corrected, but it was corrected. so it's monday. i'm not sure that -- but for political junkies, everyone else is thinking about the tweet that apparently the white house press secretary and perhaps the president are thinking about. >> it was the tweet was corrected. it was corrected within a matter of -- i don't think it was hours. i think it was a matter of minutes. as soon as the reporter realized he was wrong, and he apologized for it. and i think that i understand any white house is going to feel aggrieved not just at some of his press coverage, but press coverage on a very sensitive issue like this. this. i ounce sense of aggrievement. boy, when did we hear donald trump ever apologize for any misstatement or anything he got wrong, ever. and so, you certainly want --
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look, none of us like making mistakes. i've made my share and i've apologized for them, but, you know, a little bit of a equivalence here, guys. >> what did you think of this and how does this compare to the way other republicans have done it? >> well, i thought today's press conference was a dramatic improvement. i think part of the reason why is because there were substantive matters to address, i mean, if you look at pulling out of the tpp, this is a very significant change in how the u.s. approaches the global economic order. this is a huge executive order. you even talk about freezing on hiring federal employees. that is the fulfillment of a republican campaign promise that necks of congress and indeed this president had made. you look at the discussion about obamacare. these are big issues. so i think the administration would be well served to continue on this pathway of trying to have the substantive discussion. a, because it reassures republicans that this is in fact a republican president, but b,
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because it takes us away from the issues where frankly i think they're going to have a very difficult time litigating and winning. >> of course republicans, elected republicans in the congress have been muscular advocates of free trade in most deals, particularly pre-obama when there wasn't a partisan cast. here's john mccain reacting today on the tpp decision. president trump's decision to family membererly withdraw is a serious mistake this that will have lasting consequences for america's economy. contrast to bernie sanders who says i'm glad the tpp is dead and gone. and chuck schumer who sort of tried to have it both ways saying well this was dead long before president trump took office. we await real action on trade. what does it say that on this one, trump is closer to bernie and chuck schumer isn't really being 100% accurate there because democrats had long championed these kind of deals including obviously president obama. >> well, this has always been the hope of the trump coalition. right. the idea that they could build a
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new coalition that would attract democrats as well as republicans who are aggrieved by what they perceive to be the economic malfeasance that's come from the bad trade deals. i think it's going to be interesting to see how congressional republicans who take the more main line view on trade. and you had john mccain up, paul ryan, others that have been very forceful advocates for free trade. it'll be interesting to see whether they continue to support trump as he goes on. let's say he begins to slap tariffs on countries. begins to pull out of nafta. then we're going to see maybe more opposition from congressional republicans, but for now, they are willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. >> and ruth, to that point, let's get clear on the policy, the other executive actions today are mostly otherwise republican dogma. scaling back obamacare, freezing the new regulations we mentioned, and the banning the u.s. funds on abortion overseas. so isn't the big question whether trade here is just the outlier? >> well, actually, i think that
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there's a bunch of questions, and like loni, i would much rather be talking about issues of substance than crowd size or tweets or anything like that. but, there are just a lot of potential skiz ms between president trump and his party. what is he going to do on immigration? heowed to get rid of the executive orders. where is that? how does he deal with the trade things. most probably the most difficult is going to be how he deals with the promise to repeal and replace and wins his way through the -- especially the senate system with a 60 vote requirement in order to do that, and how will he solves the anxieties of his voters who were worried about losing health care that they had even if it might not be perfect. so, i think that as we continue to talk about and start to talk about more issues of substance, i think it's going to actually
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be very difficult to solve some of these problems. >> and john, just briefly, is that a prism here. the easy things like restoring the abortion executive order which previous administrations have done. >> no, i think it's going to be much harder obviously to do obamacare than to do the reinstatement of the mexico city policy. i mean that's an easy one that always gets done quickly. although, there's one thing i would argue that the trade shift, this is a shift that the party's been going through for ten years at this point. i think most of the tea party members that came into the house. particularly a lot of them are anti-trade. jeff sessions has always been very, you know, not like a full on free trader like a lot of sort main line republicans used to be. i think on this issue and on obamacare you're seeing this changing of the guard within the party. i don't think it's necessarily he's out of step.
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maybe the leadership is a bit out of step with the party frankly. and i think that's going to serve him well by getting out of this early. that's going to build goodwill to do what he wants to do. and let's say obamacare and it's going to take him a more than two or six months. >> you're saying he's going to have credibility on one of the issues where he had enough over the congressional republicans to begin with. or at least the older establishment ones. stay with us for our panel. coming up, the other big story here on the first full workday of the trump administration. major ethical questions following president trump from the penthouse to the white house. we are going to look at this new legal challenge that trump faces over at his international businesses and on the show, one of the lawyers who is suing the president. stay with us. [vo] quickbooks introduces rodney.
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another story unfolding right now. the vote for rex tillerson, pru president trump's pick for
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trump's decision not to divest from the trump hotel in washington flags leases held by government-owned entities and trump tower in new york like the bank of china. now the president responded to a question about this lawsuit from our own peter alexander earlier today in the oval office. >> mr. president, reaction to the lawsuit today. >> that's it? >> without that. >> trump was using the correct legal lingo, they're won or lost on the merit. but even if this challenge loses, it could compel trump to release business records or even tax returns that have remained hidden for years. that is if the suit clears the first hurdle, approving the ethics experts have standing. meaning they can show the legal
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injuries required that would allow them to sue in the first place. this is one of the attorneys suing trump. he is a supreme court litigator and former council to the consumer financial protection bureau in the obama administration. good evening to you. >> hi. thanks for having me on. >> absolutely. so a lot of this argument on the merits turns on the idea that donald trump will be benefitting. so the divestment plan he put forward in your view, the separation plan, he didn't divest assets but giving control over to the children. does that change the constitutional analysis? >> it doesn't. the problem here is donald trump has a financial interest in a vast empire of far flung holdings around the world. and with the framers of the constitution were concerned about, and the reason they wrote that clause that you showed the viewers, they didn't want the loyalty to be divided between the american people and
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financial interests in dealings with foreign powers. divesting is really the only way to solve it. and we've realized that for a long time. it's j jimmy carter had to sell his peanut farm even though he had no entanglements. >> and that was just peanuts. >> exactly. that was just peanuts. >> literally peanuts. >> a lease agreement -- >> i just want a little credit for this joke. even though it's not funny. let me ask you this about your brief. because i read it and your argument on paper about why all this money is problematic, why turning over only the profits to the treasury under the trump plan doesn't resolve it. all of that part of your complaint reads strong on paper. i think you know what i'm going to say what reads less strong. and that is your argument that you and your lawyer callings really have the injury and the standing to sue. now you cite to a supreme court
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casehat we'll put up on the screen. civil rights discrimination and housing prevented a group from providing quote, counselling and referral services for the poor. and that injury was more, the court said, than a setback to the organizations abstract societal interests. won't the trump white house have a point that what you're alleging is much more in that category than however important ethics are? your standing argument is only about your organization crews, abstract interests. >> yeah, well they're certainly going to make that argument. and ever since donald trump was elected, you know, one of the big questions was, not is this a serious issue, i think we all have to acknowledge that there is a serious issue about whether the president can take payments from foreign governments. but how is someone going to be able to get into court and make that argument? and crew is really situated a lot like the organization in that case. it's called behavens case from
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the 1980s, what the stream court said was basically, if you have an organization and it has to divert it's resources because of legal violations that the organization is trying to challenge, that gives you standing. and one way to think about this is we all agree that businesses have standing if they're putting out the product and something the government does makes them less able to put out that product and affects their revenue. well, in crew's case, this is citizen's for responsibility and ethics in washington. the plaintiff. their product is the good government work they do. the work that focuses on money and politics and keeping the government honest. and because of donald trump's unprecedented conflicts of interest, they have had to divert all of their attention and resources to these legal violations of the clause. >> it doesn't sound like that organization. >> judges a lot of times are still like regular people. or anyone watching this program which is saying, okay, i kind of hear you, but in a sentence, how
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have you as the plaintiff in the suit been harmed? >> we've had to spend money. e had to do all of the things that the organization normally does, it hasn't been able to do because it's had to focus resources on donald trump and his conflicts of interest. and so all of the resources that it, you know -- it's budget goes to, those are now going to these things. and that produces an injury. >> let's talk evidence. on the evidence, it has said now publicly on our air today, he wants the tax returns. he's after the business records. if you clear standing, why is that kind of evidence important for the constitutional claim you're making? >> well, the point of the lawsuit is to get a court to address the clause issue and decide whether donald trump is accepting payments he can't accept. and in order to assess these
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claims, a court is going to have to know what financial interests does donald trump have. where are his holdings? who does he owe money to? and we have had -- this is compared to all over presidents, the president who has been the most secretive about his financial holdings. why is he so afraid. >> when kellyanne says hey the voters looked at they, they don't care. they might be right politically, but you're saying if this goes to court, a judge unlike the voters will say no, i need to actually see who he owes and what money he's getting? >> that's right. i think kellyanne conway is right, i think a lot of people care and i think people are very concerned about donald trumps entaken mmentes around the world. and this could get concrete quickly. he has buildings in cities around the world, in the middle of city centers and places like istanbul, and some of these buildings could become targets. so what happens when you have a
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terrorist organization that targets a trump building that has donald trump's name em blazened on it, does the u.s. military go in to protect donald trump's private business interests? do american soldiers die for that? >> you're saying -- i want to be clear. you're saying that d be terrible thing, but it also creates a terrible conflicts for theist government that otherwise would not exist. >> that's exactly right. and the framers of the constitution were so -- they had so much foresight. they understood that we did not want our elected leaders to have to choose between what was in the best interest of the american people and what was in their own personal financial interest. and so, they wrote this very strict rule into the constitution, no present, no emoluments, nothing of any kind from foreign governments. >> interesting stuff. thanks for taking us to law school a little bit today. >> sure. happy to. >> now as we mentioned at the top of the show, president trump meeting with congressional
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leaders now from both parties at the white house. there are some new pictures coming in right now from inside the very start of that meeting. the president did not make any official remarks to the press there. the president's back was to the press as he was engaged in conversation. you see him there with minority leader chuck schumer and paul ryan. this is just moments ago. we are witnessing really the beginning here on the first full workday of president trump's bipartisan outreach to congressional leaders. we're going to bring you more news on that. you see there on the left as well when we come back. this is my body of proof. proof of less joint pain. and clearer skin. this is my body of proof that i can fight psoriatic arthritis with humira. humira works by targeting and helping to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to both joint and skin symptoms. it's proven to help relieve pain, stop further joint damage, and clear skin in many adults. humira is the number #1 prescribed biologic for psoriatic arthritis. humira can lower your ability to fight infections,
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hi i'm ari melbourne in for chuck todd. still ahead. millions voicing opposition to president trump this weekend. but can democrats mobilize their marchers going forward? senator chris coops joins know discuss their strategy and first right now, we have today's cnbc market wrap. >> thank you, ari. stocks beginning with slight losses. the dow shedding 27 points. s&p sinking six and the nasdaq off two points. mcdonald's reporting revenues that beat estimates, however u.s. cost sales fell as consumers bought up fewer all day breakfast. shares finished lore today and yahoo, also out with better than expected results and it's earnings release. the company said it's deal with verizon would close in the second quarter rather than than in the first quarter. shares after hours. that's it from cnbc, first in business. worldwide.
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after a big weekend of activism, democrats are grappling with how to harness the energy from those women's margins that took over cities around the nation and even the world. the marches immediately drew comparisons to tea party rallies with asking the question that also faced the gop when obama took office. how do you direct energy that is more of a grass roots reaction than a proactive embrace of any given party or agenda. and is the democratic party so called establishment even really listening? as activists flooded the streets around the country, gathering of major donors and strategists was convening near miami. of the seven candidates vying to chair the dnc, only south bend indiana mayor pete joined one of the actual marches. right now the immediate tactic seems to be an effort to clog the flow of trump cabinet confirmations. senate minority leader chuck
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schumer telling chuck todd on sunday, democrats aren't preparing just be the party of opposition. >> president trump is floundering and going after things that he's having real difficulty with, like his cabinet, like the affordable care act, et cetera. >> republicans went sharp edged against a president obama and we had a poe lorized eight years. is that what we're headed for here? >> look, we're going to go by our values. we're not going to oppose something because the name trump is on it as they did. >> joining me now is senator chris coops of delaware. good evening to you, i understand you attended one of the women's marches. although you are, i should note, a man, but tell us why that was important to you and what, if anything, that says about how democratic politicians are working with the grassroots? >> that's right, ari. my daughter and i first thing in the morning about 6:00 a.m. joined a bus load of our neighbors and friends from wilmington, delaware. and came down to washington to participate in the women's march on washington. there were nearly 30 bus loads
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of delaware yans who came down to washington, and i must say it was a very positive, uplifting experience. i think i found the inauguration on friday concerning. president trump's inaugural address, i thought, was negative, was dark, was distaupe yan about our future about the accomplishments of the recent years and the administration about our role in the world. i participated in the march here with my daughter. and no small part to hold up a positive and inclus i have view of women's role in the world and of our role in the world. and i look forward to working with grassroots activists in delaware to harness some of that energy to upcoming special elections in delaware. and to make sure that we here in congress are listening to and atentative to the concerns of millions of activists, women and citizens more broadly, who engaged in these marches all over our country. >> so you talk about that as a contrast, when you looked around that crowd, did you think of it as democrats, did you think of
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it as clinton voters, did you think of it as independents, women and others that you actually need to do more as a democratic party leader to appeal to? >> i think we need to do more to lien to folks of all ckgrounds in the united states. the democrac caucus is about to do a two day retreat and one of the things i've been urging is that we take more time to listen to the voices of those outside of washington who feel like we really haven't fought for them. haven't stood up for them. haven't represented them in recent years. and take that seriously. and retune both our economic message and our political approach. the folks who i had a chance to listen to and meet with in the course of a full day here at the march in washington were from a very wide range of backgrounds and political perspectives, and they were mostly motivated to come here to lift up a more positive and inclusive vision of america than they had heard in the inaugural address. >> you talk about inclusion, and there's really no doubt that a factual level about how much
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broader some of the messaging and some of the -- what we heard from those marches was then the kind of dark or plaintiff tone in the president's inaugural address. but when you look at the politics here which matters. a big part what have democrats are trying to do is figure out why, despite some of these raies of energy or hope the party seems to be really losing ground and the governor's house as you know, and in a lot of the state legislatures and obviously in the electoral college. even if there is a majority out there. or at least a plurality out there. take a look at this graphic that mtp daily producers pulled up a. comparing this to the tea party. the marches are in obama/clinton areas, 80% compared to 33% in the tea party rallies. that sort of what we might call the blue states. in those pivotal obama/trump areas though, the tea party rallies historically by the data
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were a 25% compared to just 11% under obama and trump. now, i'm not suggesting -- and i think it would be facile to suggest that people should march depending on where they live. people are marching where they are and this is a community event. but, as someone who wants to go about the hard business of also winning back seats dohose numbers concern you? >> well, i do think we need to fos on the swing districts in our country as well as on places in our country that have been left out. in the long economic recovery over the last eight years. we've seen positive numbers in terms of wage growth and new jobs created. but there's lots of places in our country that haven't felt that difference. there were many folks who came from places who we might consider swing districts or districts left out of the recovery who came to the march in washington. i'm not sure that the in your opinions you just put up about where the tea party marches happened, where the women's march just happened are all that telling. what matters most is whether we
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in the democratic caucus here in the senate are able to hear these concerns, channel it, harness it, and focus it in a positive way. i think that my office frankly has already heard hundreds more calls from my constituents voicing opposition to some of the more extreme nominees for trump's cabinet. betsy for education, price for health and human services. i do think we're going to hear more energy and more engagement from the grassroots all over the country. >> and senator, this was monday, day one, i want to get before you go, your views anything trump did today that particularly concerned you and was there anything you saw that gave you any positive view? >> i was very struck, negatively by the tone and conduct of his speech at the cia. and by his executive order sayi it's the policy of this administration to repeal the affordable care act long before they have any coherent plan to replace it. i do think that's going to cause more americans to lose their
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health coverage and will cause more dislocation in the health insurance market. >> senator coops, thank you, interesting to get your views. appreciate your time. >> thank you. still ahead, some details i of the supreme court's move. this is new, you may not have heard about it on that controversial texas voter id law. also, the rest of today's political headlines in the lid, keep it right here. when it comes to healthcare, seconds can mean the difference between life and death. for partners in health, time is life. we have 18,000 people around the world. the microsoft cloud helps our entire staff stay connected and work together in real time to help those that need it. the ability to collaborate changes how we work. what we do together changes how we live. and for just $15.99big festival of shrimp you can pick 2 of 6 new and classic creations on one plate new flavors like sweet bourbon-brown sugar grilled shrimp
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review a case on texas's voter id law. today, the nation's high court declined a request to hear an appeal of a lower court ruling that found the law was discriminatory. chief justice john roberts wrote the issues involved would be better suited for the high court after a final judgment from that lower court. which is potentially a normal way to approach it. but it also means the supreme court might take this case up down the road after president donald trump fills the current vacancy on what is generally a deadlock for full court. the texas law first enacted in 2011 required voters take one of seven forms of government issued photo id. we'll be right back with more mtp daily. be the you who doesn't cover your moderate to severe plaque psoriasis. be the you who shows up in that dress. who hugs a friend. who is done with treatments that don't give you clearer skin. be the you who controls your psoriasis with stelara® just 4 doses a year after 2 starter doses.
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that politicians and political aids do can be revealing, sometimes they have to clean up with what they say afterward, i want to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, but play the original sound byte here from kellyanne benefit of the doubt. truth in it. take a listen to kellyanne on the tax return question sunday. >> the white house response is that he is notice going to release his tax returns. people didn't care. they voted for him. >> he is not going too release them end of story, but it wasn't. as the panel knows and many viewers now. she tweeted today that the position is actually on the repeated question same from the campaign, potus is under audit and will not release until completed. i start with you, john. is it possible that the actual plan was revealed in that candid
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answer that they're never going too release it. >> i don't think they going to when the audit ends, i don't think anybody believes them at this point. >> ruth. >> i do not believe we are going to see president trump tax returns ever. look, it is not as if the audit is preventing him as you know as anybody from releasing the returns. it's not any claim that it's prudent or better to keep tax private. that's out weighinged when he becomes president. what happens in the spring when normal president most presidents in history have released their tax returns and the audit is
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still going on. he could argue that he has been audit for um p teen years. there are many years of tax returns before 2009 that are not under the audit. he oversees the irs, if this is an audit that's going to go on for several years it stops with the people he appoints to oversee it. >> on the one hand, it's also a new days because today first monday of his presidency. and it's a different ball game. >> he president now. that having been said, the point that kellyanne conway is making, which is a fair one, i'm not
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sure it's a issue that resonates for people in the white house to be concerned about it. i would not expect to see tax returns for now because they made an issue they do not want to tackle. in terms of tax returns i don't think it has bearing on what he does with the irs. >> do you think he -- take any auction to assure that that audit ongoing is independent and not effected by the fact he boz boss and subject of it. >> it's traditional for presidents to put procedures in place to insul late themselves from contact with the irs service. i would think that would be doubly viseble in this case. i do have to take issue with some lony said. did people vote for him and that
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demonstration they didn't care about the tax returns issue. it was demonstration that was not in the top priority but does not mean they don't care about it. the polls are entirely clear and have been all along a vast majority think he should release his tax returns. >> i don't dispute the fact it wasn't a top issue, although it was an issue for some. but i think if it were a bigger issue, something that people cared about, it would have been discussed during the campaign. it was the most litigated campaign in recent history. i have a difficult time it was issue to rose to import that the trump people would do about it right now. >> the polls say people care about it. the vote count showed people cared about other things more.
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as you may have seen the match up is set for super bowl li the big game pits atlanta falcons against new england patriots. here at "mtp daily" we found
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political to police bets and hometown teams face yof this could be scene as president they are quite the war of words before the inauguration. the icon lewis say trump was not legitimate president. trump tweeting that lewis had a horrible district, claim mosly false. one think that does exist is that atlanta falcons adium, from their leaders robert craft heading into trump tower, trump read a letter from head coach in campaign rally in new hampshire, tom brady has referred to each other as friends. there has been a lot of talk about all of branchs after this
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hard fought election. maybe donald trump can pledge wager with lewis, he can invite congressman to celebrate no matter who wins. that's one thought. end of the show. chuck will be back on monday. ford with greta start right now. "for the record" tonight critical cabinet picks. we are monitoring two votes and take you to the senate floor. president trump busy with the pen today. on trade and abortion. will democrats respond and how. press secretary sean spicer taking when he blasted the media. you are looking at live pictures of th


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