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my advice for looking get your beauty sleep. and use aveeno® absolutely ageless® night cream with active naturals® blackberry complex. younger looking skin can start today. absolutely ageless® from aveeno®. and you are looking at a live picture right now at air force one on the runway at joint base andrews. donald trump getting back from maryland after that gop retreat. we expect him to deplane at any moment. meanwhile, that wraps things up at this hour. i'm katy tur. i like twitter better. kate snow -- >> twitter better? noted. >> i like twitter as well. i'm kate snow, top three stories we're following this
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hours. lots to cover. president trump just spoke to congressional republicans in philadelphia. the president touted his recent executive orders on oil pipelines, trade, obamacare and immigration. after tweeting on wednesday that he wanted an investigation into voter fraud in the election, the president spoke again about defending the votes of american citizens. >> we also need to keep the ballot box safe from illegal voting. and, believe me, we take a look at what's registering, folks. i'd like to say, oh, trump, trump, trump. take a look at what's registering. we're going to protect the integrity of the ballot box and defend the vote of the american citizen. so important. all of us here for the same reason, to serve the citizens of our country. all of this as we're learning reservations about the state of the border patrol
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also mexico's president pena nieto cancelling. earlier in the day trump tweeted it would be better to cancel the meeting if mexico stood by its position that they would not pay for the wall. we're also waiting at this hour for british prime minister theresa may to speak at that retreat in philadelphia. we'll bring that live. we have all of the best journalists in the business standing by to bring you the big news this afternoon. let's begin with my colleague peter alex saernsander covering the white house. we heard from pena nieto in a tweet, in spanish, this morning, we told the white house we're not coming. i thought i heard a little bit different from the president kind of saying, well, there have been some discussions. what do we know? >> the bottom line, this brings to a head simmering tensions
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between pena knnieto. here's what we learned in the last five minutes. on this day ahead of what was post to be a scheduled meeting between donald trump and the mexican leader, next tuesday there are mexican leaders and foreign minister scheduled to meet at the department of homeland security with john kelly, newly sworn, head of department of homeland security, nbc news has confirmed that that was called off after they had learned about the feud scheduled for next week being cancelled but more broadly speaking we're getting clashing conflicts of how this appeared. from pena nieto, it was his decisioning. but donald trump appeared to make it sound like it was a mutual decision. take a listen. >> to at end, the president of mexico and myself have agreed to
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cancel our planned meeting scheduled for next week. unless mexico is going to treat the united states fairly, with respect such a meeting will be fruitless, and i want to go a different route. we have no choice. >> kate, the bottom line, this has been a remarkable back and forth between these two sides, of course, following less than 24 hours after donald trump signed the executive orders to sort of beef up immigration enforcement and perhaps more significantly, the announcement that he would be going ahead with his plans to construct that border wall with mexico. >> peter alexander, thank you. as you look at that picture on the left side of your screen is with president trump coming off the plane. there he is right on cue, coming off the plane from a quick trip to philadelphia for republicans at a retreat. a day after president trump signed that executive order calling for a wall along the
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mexican border, the chief of u.s. border patrol mark morgan has resigned. pete williams joins me more on that. pete, as we watch these pictures at joint base andrews this is a dafr after of the executive trump with the border wall. is that a coincidence? >> oh, sure, kate. >> just a coincidence. >> what we're told by officials who are familiar with what happened here is that mr. morgan told leadership at the border patrol that he was basically asked to step down. and he decided not to fight it. and so he's leaving. so, i think it's not really dominos, as it's really the same force that has led all of these things to happen. namely, the desire by the trump ministration to change radically, the immigration pose. mr. morgan has been on the job for a couple of months. he came in last summer. he'd been a long time at the fbi, but he did not rise through the ranks of the border patrol. and that wrangled the border
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patrol's union, which has been very upset because of that. and they as did not like the policies which they feel had restricted them from fully enforcing the immigration laws as they believe they had the right to do. so he's been at odds with the union ever since. and you might remember that the union was an early and stronger supporter of mr. trump. so it's really the same forces that have created this tension. that's why he's leaving. he didn't want to, he says, he's been asked, to and he decided that's the right thing to do so he is stepping down. he had been a career fbi agent. he's been 20 years with the fbi and other positions in law enforcement. had been brought in to do work at the border patrol. and then went back to the fbi and the obama administration has asked him to come in and head up the boater patrol. it's been a rocky tenure.
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in essence, it's been a union'ses will liunion's dislike of him since the beginning. >> pete williams, thank you. let's go to where the president is returning, back in washington with congressional leaders. casey hunt has been covering that all day long. casey, we heard from president trump. he was supposed to have a closed-door session, right, with lawmakers that you're reporting where they could ask questions of the president and that didn't ppen? >> that's right, kate, it's a tradition here with the retreats when the commander in chief comes in to address his party, that they would take questions behind closed doors. so the remarks are typically public and the lawmakers get a chance to ask questions. that did not happen this time. president trump abruptly left after he made his remarks. sean spicer later telling the
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press pool that it was simply because they were running behind. they obviously were quite late in getting here to philadelphia but it did ruffle a few funnelingers among republicans here to didn't get a chance to ask him questions. overall, there was no additional damage done to donald trump's relationship with congressional republicans. it has been an uneasy one over the last couple of days, particularly on sharp issues like towarrture. what the president has said. you've had several prominent republicans days agreeing with him in public, including paul ryan. this morning, no mention of that today in the speech. and you did instead have some focus on major republicans who are hoping to move through the congress. here is president trump talking to lawmakers in the gop about the health care law. >> our legislative work stats
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with repealing and replacing obamacare. and saving families with the catastrophic lies and premiums and debilitating loss of choice in just about everything. and remember, this one in particular, obamacare is a disaster. the democrats are out there and say are saying, oh, they're putting up signs like it's wonderful. it's a disaster. >> reporter: you could also tell there, kate, when he washe teprompter, an when he wasn't. he seemed to go back and forth throughout the speech with sort of these more formal markings and in a cadence that was much more of what we got used to hearing on the campaign trail. at one point he told a story that i've heard through the course of my reporting that he told congressional leaders that he wanted to let obamacare fall apart over the course of two years that he's doing democrats a favorite by potentially owning
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what happen with health care. republicans did have to convince them that they had to follow through on the campaign promise with the health care law or they were going to face consequences with their voters come 2018 and 2020. he definitely puts out there in public some of what is normally behind the scenes. he was also way more casual. referring to his commerce secretary by his first name, wilbur, paul and mitch mcconnell. they normally use very careful titles even when talking to each other. >> interesting, and as we watch air force one departing andrews base there. i want to bring in robert costa he's the national political reporter for "the washington post" and nbc news and msnbc political analyst. robert, lots to talk with you this afternoon.
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let's start with this regreet. and whether congressional republicans are in sync with the president. what's your read on how close that cooperation is right now? >> quite a seen in philadelphia to see republican, conservative lawmakers from both the house and senate applauding economic interventionalism. a president who is very populist. he's leading in their direction. it's a change in the republican party. right before our own eyes. >> on obamacare, sorry, my mike was down for a second -- the idea of a replacement plan. that was supposed to be the subject of the day, today, at this conference? to kind of hash out how did they get there. what's your reporting on how far along they are, do they have a plan for repeal and replace? do they have a replacement? >> as we've been talking about for a long time, kate, there's a lot of plans floating around the
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capitol for years on the political side. trump talked about the political damage. he doesn't want the political blame on his shoulders. he wants democrats to shoulder that blame but they have to come up with some consensus over the next few months. this has to come from committees, both the senate and house. >> president trump just spoke about protecting the integrity of the vote. this is that call he made yesterday morning in a tweet for investigation of voter fraud that he's alleging. facts that are disputed, obviously. how does that claim? >> privately, my sources in capitol hill and in philadelphia are saying they're not really comfortable with the way trump is going after this alleged voter fraud. they'd rather republicans focus on health care and executive action. voter fraud, they think, is an issue that doesn't work for the
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republicans' advantage. but they do think it could be picked up by many state legislatures through the country, if they're getting that kind of directive from the white house, maybe republicans in the states will follow through. >> i have to imagine, there's a lot of chatter about enrique pena nieto for not coming to the united states. what's behind -- well, i guess everybody presumes to know what's behind this, the putting up of the wall. how does that play out in congress and congressional republican leaders? >> the lack of a visit, it's part of a negotiation, at least that's how my sources at the white house are claiming it. they told me earlier, their reply was trump often embraces drama, public theater, when he undergoes negotiation. whether this plays out in the political sphere as in the real estate world remains to be seen. it's definitely a public
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spectacle, trump is talking about some trade balance, a new border tact is being talked about, and to try to get money for some way to get mexico to fund the border project. >> thank you for being here. >> thank you. we're waiting for british prime minister theresa may to speak in philadelphia. tomorrow, she'll be in washington to meet with president trump where they'll hold a press conference. the british prime minister the first leader to meet with the tread. keir simmons. it's been a while. educate us a little bit about theresa may. who she is, what drives her and what her relationship already might be like with president trump. >> right. so, she is someone the american public doesn't know. she wants to fashion herself as
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margaret thatcher to his ronald reagan. i think they wants to project herself as the ideas that donald trump is tommi italking about, a of putting your country first and not getting involved in massive deals like nafta and the trade. there's a lot more to it, obviously. so, that's the kind of person she is. she's a vicar's daughter. she's very different from president trump. on the flight over, she told us, you know what, opposites will attract. we'll see. >> is she casual in the way he is? we were talking about his approach to the members in philadelphia, he's speaking on a first name basis. >> she is not casual. >> we should not call her theresa, right? >> you can call her anything you like. there are things she can gain
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from this that are huge. if she can get the white house to back her in a trade deal, that hinges her negotiations with europe. >> because you're in the middle of brexit right now, right? >> right. she knows if she can get britton back in the trade, you'll be in the back of the queue as obama famously said, but you're going to be the front of line, if she can make that happen. this is difficult. this is really tricky, because she is going to be standing up talking to republicans can that are in the middle of all of this. let's be honest, pretty turmoil. and then she's going to stand side by side by president trump. in this, a lot of kudos being the first world leader with president trump. still a lot of risk. how's he going to behave? when she's standing next to her. there are tngs that britain doesn't agree with. >> certainly the british population probably agrees with
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trump on a number of issues. >> torture is one. >> i want to play a sound. this is a clip, a clip from yesterday when the prime minister back in england was asked, in parliament, asked prime minister -- >> prime minister. >> pressed as the prime minister was asked her position on torture in relation to what donald trump has said recently. take a list. >> we have a very clear position on torture. we do not sanction torture. we do not get involved with that, and that will continue to be our position. >> and that comes, of course, yesterday morning, last night in the interview with abc, president trump goes about and talking about how he's favors torture, so if his secretary of defense don't want to go there, he won't. >> she's made it clear that's our position on torture. the torture issue is one example
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of many where she has to walk a tight rope and it's not easy. just as with here. the british legal system does not allow torture, either in the uk or overseas. so here's the issue, britain and america have a very close working relationship with their intelligence services. they sell information. there's a court case in the uk about allegations. the allegations that they were implicit, and secrets get publicized in that court case. maybe mail be american intelligence secrets tt get shared. that's what you get when you don't agree on an issue like that. it can really damage a relationship of a nation that has helped tackle terrorism in both the u.s. and uk. >> still, it's unbelieve what the trump administration will do. >> and imagine being a british
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diplomat. >> we think in 10 or 15 minutes from now, she may start addressing the crowd. it's been a really busy few days. what is in those executive orders? >> do the agencies that they affect know what's in them, before he signs them? ♪ everything your family touches sticks with them.
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some pictures we're just getting in. that's president trump on board air force one on the flight either to or from philadelphia. he just took a very shortly trip to the gop retreat in philadelphia. again, the pictures just coming in.
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that's his first trip on board air force one. obviously using the office there. president trump repeated the campaign promises when in central philadelphia, to boost the american economy, create millions of jobs. >> we're going to pursue more trade deals that create high wages and opportunities for american workers bringing back those magnificent words, made in the usa. we used to have that. we don't have that. it's going to be america first again. we will create millions of new good-paying jobs by removing the economic burdens that criminal our ability to compete. >> let's bring in robert reich now under president bill clinton current professor of public policy at the university of california berkeley, author of "save capitalism." >> let's talk what about you just heard, he said made in the
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usa, it's all about jobs. your reaction to that, it's been a constant theme. >> there are two schools of thought, katie, how to create jobs, one, the democrats have actually invested in education, job training, infrastructure, the notion is you actually create jobs by investigating american workers and stimulating the economy if the economy needs some stimulation. donald trump is taking part of that, he's talking about a big infrastructure plan that might be good for creating jobs. but everything else that he's talking about sounds a lot like the old republican trickle-down republicans dressed in a different garb. he's telling ceos, i'm going to make it more profitable, that may if we're lucky stimulate new job growth. what it will mostly do is create more profits and higher share
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prices. >> let me show you this, a day after signing the two executive orders having do with the border wall and sanctuary cities. he wrote the u.s. has a $60 billion trade deficit with mexico it's been a one-sided deal from the beginning with nafta with massive numbers of jobs and companies lost. do you think he has a good point? >> i don't know what will he means by companies lost. it then went on to southeast asia, because southeast asia, was lower than mexico. in lower state it's in the lower 48 and mexico, and they create jobs on both sides of the border. so, i don't know exactly what he's talking about. a lot of the manufacturing jobs that are coming back to the united states are coming back for a variety of reasons but not because they are creating huge manufacturing centers. if you look into new factories
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in america, there are no factories in america, but look inside of them, they don't have the old assembly lines which assembled products. most of them have robots and numerically controlled machine tools. and they're highly mechanic ome. the pore point i want to make, kate, donald trump is not a big fan of unions, neither are republicans. and yet if you look back on the golden days of 1946 and 1980 when american wages kept on rising for most people, those are the years about 35%, over a third, of all workers in the private sector were unionized in america. now, we're down to fewer than 7% are unionized. that means workers don't have
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very much bargaining power. >> let me bring in a little breaking news actually. as we've been talking, my producers have been telling me in my ear, on the plane, air force one, sean spicer spoke with the press what he said the way they're going to pay for the wall is an import tax. he said 20% tax on all imports coming from mexico into the u.s. does that make sense to you? >> well, i mean, they can say anything they want. >> what would that do to the economy, 20% tax on all imports coming from mexico and use those funds to pay, mitch mcconnell said it would take $10 billion to $15 billion to build the wall. >> number one, it invite lates trade and nafta. how is he going to renegotiate nafta by saying we're going to put a tariff directly on all goods coming into the united states?
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a lot of american companies would be penalized because american compani send their componentses to mexico. then they assemble them in mexico and then they send them back to the united states. american companies are going to hate that. but also american workers are also consumers. and american consumers are going to be paying much more a lot of goods and services that come from mexico. so, you've got to add up the cost and benefits. it could be a huge negative. and it starts a trade war. >> i was going to ask you that. >> when they say, hey, united states is all alone, then we're in trouble. >> we're running out of time. i was going to ask you about imposing that kind of a tariff of imports coming into the u.s. starts a domino effect? >> it very easy could start a trade war. it's stupid. coming up a live report from a town whose former mayor once
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because it's front and center. let's show where you we are, a brand new pizzeria. new york pizzeria. to get this, kate, about 47 to 48% today. we're going inside and talk to one of the owners about coming into this community. what sort of tensions, if you will, that might have been in the air box of the campaign and donald trump becoming our president. this is jesse lopez. just moved into the area from new york city/long island. tell me why you decided to come down. >> i decided to come over here because the rent is cheaper and it's for stable for me and my family. >> reporter: if donald trump signs executive orders about building a wall along the southern border, about closing off funding to sanctuary cities. obviously, this community has been divided over the years because of immigration, are you
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finding that there's tension over it? >> most of it, yeah, most of it racist and other. but we've had people come in that we have trouble. >> reporter: what do you want to say to americans who say this is about time that an american president voiced some really strong opinions and positions about cracking down on people who are here without proper documentations? >> i think it's very disappointing. because a lot of people come and do their own jobs, make a living with our own family and people and kids they have to support back home. >> reporter: good luck with the business. we had customers earlier. and dald trump carried this county, tarrant county, countywide, obviously a much more diverse town. perhaps a change of politics and demograph demographics. >> ron, you're there for serious reasons but grab a piece of
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pizza. >> reporter: i've had one. nbc news can confirm that a number of state department officials have been asked to resign. the news comes just one day after secretary of state nominee rex tillerson visited the department's d.c. headquarters. also stepping down, as reported, border patrol chief mark morgan who took office three months ago. let's bring in international security and diplomacy analyst james deritas. i want to talk about what i just mentioned, all of the changes in the new administration. but can i start with the breaking news that we're just getting in. i mentioned this in a few minutes ago in an appearance with reporters where the press secretary comes to the back of the plane on air force one and talks to the pool of reporters who travel with the president. sean spicer said that the u.s. will impose a 20% tax on all imports from mexico. i want to quote him, he says,
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quote, we have $50 billion in imports coming in from mexico. he says, quote, if you take -- 160 other countries do right now, our country's policy is to tax exports. and imports flow freely in which is ridiculous. by doing it, we can do $10 million a year and easily pay for the wall, just through that m mechanism alone. sean spicer saying that the administration wants a 20% tax on all imports from mexico to pay for the construction of this new border wall. your reaction to that? >> not a very good idea, not good policy. for starters it's a violation of our nafta agreement. it's a violation of international trade laws. it will lead to retaliation. we'll probably get in a downward spiral economically. this is a classic example of the old saying that to every problem
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there is a solution, easy, quick and wrong. this would be in the wrong category. and from a national security perspective, they're beginning to break that relationship with mexico. many other problems. i don't think that's a good approach to take, as we begin dialogue with mexico. >> and as we're waiting for the british prime minister to speak, i think we only have a couple more minutes. let me ask about what i reported a moment ago that there's been a number of people at the state department who have been asked to resign at fairly high levels. assistant secretaries of state. and also the head border patrol leaving today. does that strike you as unusual? or does that always happen when there's a transition? >> it's a little bit of both. i think the state department cluster the four high-level, all kind of putting in a resignation together smacks a bit of, hey, we're all going to walk away and we're making a statement.
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although none of them have commented publicly in that degree. what we want to watch, kate, is no so much who's leaving, but who's coming in. who's going to be the new deputy secretary of state. who's going to take that place for officials. that's across the inner agency. we haven't seen the second and third tier yet pull out. >> thank you for your statement, we appreciate it. and right now, we're going to listen in. gathered in philadelphia for a retreat of congressional republicans. >> a fantastic welcome. can i say majority leader mcconnell, mr. speaker, distinguished members of senate and representatives of the house. i would like to thank congress of the congressional institute for the invitation to be here today. the opportunity to visit the united states is always special. and to be invited to be the
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first serving head of parliament to address this important conference is an honor, indeed. to any person, to travel to this great country at anytime not to be inspired by its promise and its example. for more than two centuries, the very idea of america drawn from history and given -- the world. that idea, that all are created equal, that all are born free, has ever been surpassed in the long history of political thought. in the streets and in the halls
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of this great city of philadelphia, that theounding fathers first set it down. that the textbook of freedom was written. and that this great nation which grew from sea to shining sea was born. to bear the leadership of the free world and to carry that heavy responsibility on its shoulders. but my country, the united states kingdom of great britain and northern ireland, has been beside you at every step. [ applause ]
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>> for the past century, britain and america has an unique and special relationship that exists between us have taken the idea conceived by those 66 rank and file ordinary citizens as president reagan called them forward. and because we have done so, time and again, it is the relationship betweens that you has defined the modern world. 100 years ago this april, it was your intervention in the first world war that helped britain and france, our friends in the commonwealth and other allies to maintain freedom in europe. [ applause ] a little more than 75 years ago, you responded to the japanese
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attack on pearl harbor by joining britain in the second world war, and defeating fascism, not just in the pacific, but in africa and europe, too. and later, in the aftermath of these wars, power two countries led the west through the cold war, confronting communism and ultimately defeating it, not just through military might, but by winning the war of ideas. and by proving that open liberal democratic societies will always defeat those that are closed, and cruel. but the leadership provided by our two countries through the special relationship have done more than and more to overcome adversity. it made the modern world.
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the institutions upon which that world relies was so often conceived or inspired by our two nations, working together. the united nations in need of reform but vital still, have a foundation in the special relationship, from the original declaration of st. david's palace to the declaration to the united nations signed in washington. and drafted itself by winston churchill and president franklin d. roosevelt. the world in international monetary fund in the post-war, conceived by our two nations working together. and nato, the cornerstone of the west defense was established on the promise of trust and mutual ust that exists between us. some of these organizations are in need of rerm and renewal,
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to make them relevant to our needs today. but we should be proud of the role our two nations working in partnership, played in bringing them into being. and in bringing peace and prosperity to millions of people as a result. [ applause ] because it is through our actions, over many years, working together to defeat evil or to open up the world, that we have been able to fulfill the promise of those who served the special nature of the relationship between us. the promise of freedom, liberty and the rights of man. we must never cease, churchill said, to become the tone of great principles of freedom and rights of man which are the joint inheritance of the english speaking world.
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and which through magna carta, identify habeas corpus, trial by jury and english common-law defines our most famous expression in the american declaration of independence. [ applause ] so, it is my honor and privilege, to stand before you today, in this great city of philadelphia, to reclaim them again. to join hands, as we pick up that mantel of leadership once more. to renew our special relationship. and to recommit ourselves to the responsibility of leadership in the modern world. it is my honor and privilege to do so at this time, as dawn breaks on a new eraf america's renewal. so, speak to you not just as prime minister of the united kingdom, but as a fellow conservative who believes in the same principles that under pin
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the agenda of your party. the value and dignity of work, family, economics, put in the power of the hands of people. principles instilled in me at a young age, principles my parents taught me in the vicarage of which i was raised. i know it's these principles that you'll put in the heart of the plans of your government. and your victory in this election gives you an opportunity to put them at the heart of this new era of american renewal. president trump's victory, achieved in defiance of all of the pundits in the polls. and rooted not in the corridors of washington, but in the hope it's and aspirations of working men and women across this land. your party's victory, in both the congress and senate, where
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you swept halls before you. secured with great effort and achieved with an important message of national renewal. and because of it, because of what you have done together, because of that great victory you have won, america can be stronger, greater, and more confident in the years ahead. [ applause ] and a newly emboldened confident america is good for the world. an america that's strong and prosperous at home is a nation that can lead abad. put you cannot and should n do so alone. you have said that it is time for others to step up, and i agree. sovereign countries cannot outscores security and prosperity to america.
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and they should not undermine the alliances that keep us strong by failing to step up and play their part. this is something -- [ applause ] this is something britain has always understood. it's why britain is the only country in the g20 other than yourselves to meet its commitment in defense and upgrading equipment. it is why -- [ applause ] -- it is why britain is the only country in the g20 to spend 1.7% of gross national income on overseas development. it's why as my first act as prime minister last year with the new debate in parliament that assures the renewal of brit's nuclear deterrence. and the government i lead will increase spending on defense every year in this parliament. [ applause ]
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it is why britain is a leading member, alongside the united states. as the coalition is worki successfully to defeat daez. and nato's forward presence in eastern europe. while increasing naturo's suppo mission against terrorism. reinforcing our commitment to peacekeeping, in south sudan and somalia. that is why britain is leading the way in pioneering international efforts to crack down on modern slavery. one of the great scourges of our world, wherever it is found. and i hope you will -- [ applause ] i hope you will join us in that cause, and i commend senator corker in particular for his work in this field. it's good for me to have met him
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here today. as americans know, the united kingdom is by instinct and history a great global nation d and quiet resolve to do last year, we have the opportunity to reassert our belief in a confident, sovereign and global britain, ready to build relationships with old friends and new allies alike. we will build a new partnership with our friends in europe. we're not turning our back on them or on the interests and the values that we share. it remains overwhelmingly in our interests and in those of the wider world that the eu should succeed. and for as long as we remain members, we'll continue to play our full part. just as we will continue to cooperate on security, sovereign policy and trade once we have left. but we have chosen a different future for our country.
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a future that sees us restore our parliamentary sovereignty and national self-determination and to become even more global -- [ applause ] >> and to become even more global and traditionalist in action and in spirit. a future that sees us take back control of things that matr to us, things like national borders, immigration policy and the way we decide and interpret our own laws so that we're able to shape a better, more prosperous future for the working men and women of britain. a future that sees us step up with confidence to a new, even more internationalist role where we meet our responsibilities to our friends and allies, champion the traditional cooperation and partnerships but project our values around the world and continue to act as one of the
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strongest and most forceful advocates for business, free markets and free trade anywhere around the globe. this is a vision of a future that my country can unite around. and that i hope your country, as our closest friend and ally, can welcome and support. so, as we rediscover our confidence together, as you renew your nation just as we renew ours, we have the opportunity, indeed the responsibility, to renew the special relationship for this new age. we have the opportunity to lead together again. because the world is passing through a period of change. and in response to that change we can either be passive bystanders or we can take the opportunity once more to lead and to lead together. i believe it is in our national inrest to do so.
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because the world is increasingly marked by instability and threats that risk undermining our way of life and the very things that we hold dear. the end of the cold war did not give rise to a new world order, it did not herald the end of history, it did not lead to a new age of peace, prosperity and predictability in world affairs. for some, the citizens of central and eastern europe in particular, it brought new freedom, but across the world ancient ethnic, religious and national rivalries, rivalries that had been frozen through the decades of the cold war, returned. new enemies of the west and our values, in particular in the form of radical islamists, have emerged. and countries -- countries with little tradition of democracy, liberty and human rights, notably china and russia, have
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grown more assertive in world affairs. the rise of the asian economies. china, yes, but democrat allies like india too, is hugely welcomed. billions are being lifted out of poverty and new markets for our industries are opening up. but these events coming as they have at the same time as the financial crisis and its fallout, as well as a loss of confidence in the west following 9/11 and difficult military interventions in iraq and afghanistan, have left many to fear that in this century we will experience the eclipse of the west. but there is nothing inevitable about that. other countries may grow stronger. big, populous countries may grow richer, as they do so, they may start to embrace more fully our values of democracy and liberty. but even if they do not, our interests will remain. our values will endure.
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and the need to defend them and project them will be as important as ever. so we, our two countries together, have a responsibility to lead. because when others step up as we step back, it is bad for america, for britain and the world. [ applause ] it is in our interests, those of britain and america together, to stand strong together to defend our values, our interests, and the very ideas in which we believe. this cannot mean a return to the failed policies of the past. the days of britain and america intervening in sovereign countries in an attempt to remake the world in our own image are over. nor can we afford to stand idly by when the threat is real and
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whether he it is in our own interests to intervene. we must be strong, smart, and hard-headed. and we must demonstrate the resolve necessary to stand up for our interests. and whether it is the security of israel in the middle east or the baltic states in eastern europe, we must always stand up for our friends and allies in democratic countries that find themselves in tough neighborhoods too. [ applause ] we each have different political traditions. we will sometimes pursue different domestic policies. there may be occasions on which we disagree but the common values and interests that bring
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us together are hugely powerfu and, as your foremost friend and ally, we support many of the priorities your government has laid out for america's engagement with the world. it is why i join you in your determination to take on and defeat diesh and many other terrorist groups in the world today. it is in both our national interests to do so. it will require us to use the intelligence provided by the finest security agencies in the world and will require the use of military might. but it also demands a wider effort. because one of the lessons of fighting terrorism in the last 15 years or so is, yes, killing terrorists can save innocent lives, but until we kill the idea that drives them, the ideology, we will always have to live with this threat.
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as they are defeated on the ground, the terrorists are exploiting the internet and social media to spread this ideology that is preying on vulnerable citizens in our own countries, inspiring them to commit acts of terror in our own cities. that is why the uk has led the world in developing a strategy for preventing violent extremism and why the british and american governments are working together to take on and defeat the ideology of islamist extremism. i look forward to working with the president and his administration to step up our efforts still further in order to defeat this evil ideology. but of course, we should always be careful to distinguish between this extreme and hateful ideology and the peaceful religion of islam and the hundreds of millions of its
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adherents including our own citizens and those further afield who are so often the first victims of this ideology's terror. and nor it is enough merely to focus on violent extremism. we need to address the whole spectrum of extremism, starting with the bigotry and hatred that can so often turn to violence. yet, ultimately to defeat daesh we must employ all of the diplomatic means at our disposal. that means working internationally to secure a political solution in syria, challenging the alliance between the syrian regime and its backers in tehran. when it comes to russia as so often it is wise to turn to the example of president ronald reagan who during his negotiations with his opposite member mikhail gorbachev abided by the adage, trust but verify. [ applause ]
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with president putin my advice is to engage but beware. [ applause ] >> there is nothing inevitable about conflict between russia and the west and nothing unavoidable about retreating to the days of the cold war. but we should engage with russia from a position of strength, and we should build the relationship, systems and processes that make cooperation more likely than conflict. and that, particularly after the illegal annexation of crimea, give assurance to russia's neighboring states that their security is not in question. we should not jeopardize the freedoms that president reagan and mrs. thatcher brought to eastern europe by accepting president putin's claim that it is now in his sphere of influence. [ applause ]

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