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good morning, everybody. i'm thomas roberts at msnbc world headquarters in new york. it is day nine of the trump administration and it delivers the potential constitutional crisis over the president's travel ban. we have reaction from all sides, but at least ten more protests will be erupting today, expected to begin across the country. now, trump's executive order has banned immigrants from seven countries. new reaction from the white house and opponents this hour. >> and it is a muslim ban? >> it's not a muslim ban, but it's working out very nicely. you see it at the airports. you see it all over. it's working out very nicely. >> so, did the rollout of the travel ban go exactly as planned? we're going to take you through
what's happened, even overnight, as the government tries to clarify it after federal court rulings freeze certain consequences of it. and one of donald trump's most controversial advisers getting a new and expanded role. we'll examine what that might mean. but we do want to begin with the overnight consequence with the information and the protests that have happened, but this now is news from the department of homeland security, and it is looking to clarify enforcement of donald trump's seven-country immigrant ban targeting predominantly muslim countries. now, this was signed on friday. the dhs responding in a statement that came in after midnight saying the department of homeland security will ply with judicial orders, faithfully enforce our immigration laws and implement president trump's executive orders to ensure that those entering the unid states do n pose a threat to our country or the arican people." then this, a remarkable season from sea-tac airport in seattle from last night, reflective of airport protests from coast to coast. take a listen.
[ chanting ] >> there you hear the chants of "the people united will never be divided," a flavor of what we saw yesterday and today. take a look at this. more rallies are planned to happen all across the country today. so will we see more folks turning out than we did yesterday? this hour we have reports from two of the country's busiest airports. adam reiss is at jfk and sarah dallof is in atlanta for us. but first, we want to get to president trump responding this morning to the storm of protests over his travel ban. and within the last hour, he tweeted this -- "our country needs strong borders and extreme vetting now. look at what is happening all over europe, and indeed, the world -- a horrible mess!" nbc's kelly o'donnell reports now on the travel ban shock waves. >> reporter: across the country, airports crowded with demonstrators saturday night.
huddled around international terminals. challenged in court, a federal judge granted a temporary emergency stay. to prevent the deportation of specific travelers affected by president trump's new executive order on immigration after an estimated 200 travelers were stopped and detained. hamid darwish, an iraqi interpreter for the u.s. military, was held at jfk airport until granted a waiver. >> reporter: what do you think of america? >> america's the greatest nation, the greatest people in the world. >> reporter: president trump's executive order delivers on his campaign promise, to confront what he calls radical islamic terrorism. trump's order would temporarily halt admission from seven predominantly muslim countries for 90 days and would suspend the u.s. refugee program for syrians indefinitely. trump rejected the characterization that his order is a muslim ban.
>> it's not a muslim ban, but we are totally prepared. it's working out very nicely. you see it at the airports. you see it all over. it's working out very nicely. >> reporter: democratic officials push ba senator elizabeth warren at boston logan airport. >> it is unconstitutional and it will be -- [ inaudible ] >> reporter: for president trump, saturday was a full working day. he signed additional executive orders requiring a new battle plan against isis and limits on future lobbying for white house officials. plus, the president held a series of phone calls with world leaders from japan, france, germany, australia, and his first official conversation with russia's vladimir putin, an hour-long call the white house described as congratulatory and positive. >> so there we have kelly o'donnell reporting. president trump is expected to make more diplomatic calls today. he's going to be speaking with the king of saudi arabia and the crown prince of the united arab emirates this afternoon and the acting president of south korea
coming up this evening. want to take you to jfk international airport in new york and adam reiss is following the protests there. it certainly was a hotbed of action there last night. what will happen there? and tell us whether or not folks are still being detained. >> reporter: thomas, we believe four or five are still held here at jfk. customs officials and department of homeland security saying they will continue to enforce the president's order to deport people to ensure the safety and security of all americans, and that's despite the judge's decision last night to stop the deportati deportation. in fact, we're hearing this morning from the aclu that some of the customs agents here at jfk are continuing to defy the judge's order and deport people. now, joining me now, ali baker, whose fiancee is being held here at jfk, and seguin stomeyer, who is an attorney making sure
people detained get out. we have still four or five inside. what are you hearing in terms of your fiancee? what are the chances of release today? >> they didn't give us anything solid. it's very ambiguous. so far, it's be patient, stand by. she just went through a second interview. we're going to continue to wait. but as of right now, nothing legitimate. >> seguin, you're a member of the legal team. what are you being told? how do you go about this process in terms of trying to get these people out? i understand one woman was just released in a wheelchair? tell me about that. >> so, there have been a lot of lawyers here working throughout the night on behalf of a number of clients. most of our information that's come through famy members who have spoken with their loved ones and relatives who are being held and lawyers have filed petitions to try to get them released. cleary gottlieb filed a petition on behalf of nor, and we're confident that the customs and border patrol is going to abide by the terms of the stay issued
by judge donnelly last night and release nor. >> >> reporter: it's been a frustrating process for you to try to figure out who to talk to. what's that been like? >> there's been a lot of confusion. the order came down from the president very recently, so there's been just a lot of communication mishaps and just trying to figure out who's being held where has been difficult, but we're hoping for a good resolution soon. >> reporter: ali, what will you do if, for some reason, your fiancee is sent back? >> if she's sent back, then her visa will expire, then we'll have to wait 90 days, apply for another visa. and then if we apply for another visa, it's probably going to take six months for that to get approved. so we're talking about delaying everything for nine months. >> reporter: in fact, you're getting a call now. it could be the call you're waiting for. >> yeah, yeah. >> reporter: so, thomas, you can imagine the confusion not only here at jfk, but at airports here in america, and in fact, around the world. thomas? >> for the gentleman you're
standing with, is his fiancee on the h1visa? what's the visa she submitted for to come to the states into. >> reporter: thomas is asking what type of visa has? >> she has a k-1 visa, a fiancee visa. >> reporter: when did she get that? >> january 14th. so, applied about five months ago. it finally was approved. >> reporter: so, you're understanding there shouldn't be an issue here. she should be allowed in. >> i called the department of homeland security on friday afternoon. they said she's fine, good to fly. she flew thursday night. >> rorter: and she just came back and she's being held here now. >> yeah, the order was made while she was in the air. >> reporter: pretty incredible. thomas, back to you. >> adam reiss at jfk, thank you and keep us posted as we expect other protests to happen at airports, specifically jfk again today. now, another person that's been caught in the travel ban confusion and the chaos is a 75-year-old iranian woman in l.a. she arrived yesterday at the airport where hundreds of people held a protest about the travel ban. now, the elderly grandmother wound up being detained for
several hours before her release to the family that was waiting for her. nbc's jacob soboroff caught up with them. >> she's had a green card since 1997. >> reporter: since 1997. >> yeah, so. >> reporter: you made that sign? >> yeah. >> reporter: if you could say something now to the people in america, what would you say? [ speaking foreign language ] >> translator: i love them. i love them. >> so, there we have jacob soboroff speaking to that elderly grandmother who was released after being detained now. as for what she would say to president trump, she says, do something right. i want to bring in now a national legal and policy director at the american arab antidiscrimination committee. abed, it's good to have you with me. >> thank you. >> i know you've been communicating with people affected by this order over the last 24 hours. explain how many folks that you
know coast to coast are being detained and what are their options to be let go? >> thank you, and i appreciate you covering this diligently. the exact number of the folks detained can only come from cbp and dhs. we're not told, and the attorneys on the ground, the attorneys at the airports are not ginccess tohe room where these travelers are, there's not an accurate number out there. and we would hope that these numbers are released by the government and by dhs soon. and the recourses, we're hoping with the order that came through that dhs and cdp abides by the order and these individuals are released and are allowed to continue with their travels and their business here in the u.s. >> so, there is reporting that rudy giuliani went to fox news and said that donald trump came to him for guidance on implementing the so-called muslim ban, and the ex-new york mayor said he pitched the ban as not a religious prohibition but
one based on danger. he said, he called me up, said put a commission together, show me the right way to do it legally. do you think that right now because of the fact that federal courts have issued a freeze on certain consequences that we are now confronted with a constitutional crisis over this executive action? >> i think we're confronted with a constitutional crisis, a legal crisis and humanitarian crisis with this action. not only do you have persons that are in the u.s. now, you have many more legal or lawful permanent residents, green card holders, students, h1v workers, fiancees that are outside the country that are trying to get back in. that's why so many lawyers across the country -- and god bless these lawyers for what they're doing -- giving their time over the weekend on a pro bono basis, defending these individuals and groups like the aclu who are putting forward strong legal fights and organizations such as ours and others that are trying to get the information out there, and
there's a real collaborative effort to tackle this and to take down any parts of these bans that we could immediately. >> when we think about, you know, what's taken place just over the last 24 hours and that that evening -- i think it was around 8:00 p.m. last night that the federal judges in new york put in that freeze. we've had other federal judges do the same thing, but now we have dhs saying they are going to follow through and execute on this order. so, is everyone left in a conundrum of how to properly move forward? because it seems as if the administration and the dhs will be operating and flying in the face of the courts. >> that's exactly it. and i did get a chance to read the release by dhs just before walking in here, and it does seem that they're ignoring a legal order. they're ignoring a decision made by a judge and they're moving forward with the ban, and that's how i read it. and if that's the case, there's a lot of ambiguity left and there's a lot of individuals who are planning to travel here.
and i think you're going to see a repeat at the airports today as you've seen the past couple days, where you have lawful, permanent residents and green card holders not being able to come home. you have students and others not being able to come home because of the uncertainty of these orders and the uncertainty of the language, how it's supposed to be executed. and you even have some cdp officers and officials who just don't know what to do, and we're getting a lot ofts of the confusion and t chaos that's ensuing hind the scenes. >> meanwhile, for people that have already gone through extreme vetting procedures for visas and other types of law-abiding means to come to this country, from your understanding, does this push them all back to square one in these seven countries? >> from our understanding, it depends on when they entered here, if they've been turned away, what exactly, what documents the individuals may have signed and what was done. so each case is going to be different, but there is the possibility that those that did get a visa, go through the process, have to start all over.
for those still outside of the country that have not signed any papers, haven't been put in any detention, their visas are, from what we understand, still valid. there has not been a cancellation of visas. there's just been a ban on entering the country. so the thing is, is every case is going to be unique, particularly with immigration, and that's why it's very important that these individuals work with attorneys to determine the best way to move forward. >> thanks for making time for us. we'll have you back on to talk about the legality of all this, but we have breaking news to get to from yemen. that is in one of the seven countries under this travel ban. and news now that a service member, a u.s. service member killed in a raid against al qaeda. officials say three other service members were also wounded. now, we don't have specific word on the extent of their injuries, but a u.s. military aircraft assisting in the operation experienced a hard landing, injuring an additional service member. this marks the first service member death of the trump administration. again, this breaking news coming
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all right, so a lot to get you caught up on as we continue to follow the consequences of what it means for president trump's travel ban on the country. moments ago his white house chief of staff, reince priebus, appeared on "meet the press" with my colleague, chuck todd. take a listen. >> it seems that a lot of the chaos yesterday could have been avoided, had you at least included some sort of timed grace period. why was that not included? >> well, i don't think you want to have a grace peri, chuck, because then people that want to
do bad things to americans just move up their travel date in order to get into the country before the grace period's over. so i think it's one of these things that -- and if you ask a lot of people, the customs and border patrol would tell you you've got to rip off the band-aid and you have to move forward. so, it wasn't chaos. the fact of the matter is 325,000 people from foreign countries came into the united states yesterday and 109 people were detained for further questioning. most of those people were moved out. we've got a couple dozen more that remain, and i would suspect as long as they're not awful people, that they will move through before another half a day today, and perhaps some of these people should be detained further. and if they're folks that shouldn't be in this country, they're going to be detained. and so, apologize for nothing here. >> apologize for nothing here, reince priebus appearing on "meet the press." joining me right now is sarah palmieri with politico, and paul
singer, washington correspondent for "usa today." i want to get reaction, tara, from you first, then paul on that statement, they apologize for nothing here. this really plays into how donald trump really had a lot of despise for president obama laying out plans, letting folks know the strategy. isn't this just donald trump being donald trump as the president and surprising folks, and it's the chaos that happens from this surprise? >> well, donald trump's team is not apologetic about this. this is exactly what they intended. and yesterday during a briefing with the senior administration official, they doubled down and they said, you know, no one has the right to entry into the u.s. unless they are a citizen. so, they have no apologies by b this and they're saying, you know, we have a waiver process, a case-by-case basis. they also stress the fact that it was only a 90-day ban, but they really are not -- there is no apologies.
this is exactly what they intended, and the chaos, i don't think it's really hitting them the way that it's hitting others in the way it's being portrayed in the media. >> and paul, the extreme vetting process, certainly for folks that were already coming into the country and law-abiding citizens of the world had already applied properly, and that's what we're witnessing folks that are getting hung up through actually having gone through the proper channels. dhs says it will comply with judicial orders, faithfully enforce the immigration laws and implement president trump's executive orders to ensure that those entering the u.s. do not pose a threat to the american people." americans probably assume dhs has been doing this all along and for years. >> that's right. >> how is the dhs now flying in the face of federal court orders that froze these consequences? >> it looks like dhs says they will abide by court orders who say that people who have basically been processed already can't be detained at these airports. you know, part of the problem here is that there are not
simple answers to these complicated questions, and this is sort of what you see, the fallout of attempting to use a fairly wide mallet to solve a problem that's actually a bunch of little hammers. and i think what you're seeing now is that there are a bunch of unintended consequences, and i think that, you know, priebus' point this morning is an interesting one and a fair one, i think, that there's really a small number of people who are directly affected by this at these airports in detention, but they make an extraordinarily sympathetic public picture because they have come to america having gone through the process of being accepted by this country, and yet, they're being detained at our airports. it's a terrible public image. >>so, i've been asking around and i'm waiting for word on who they consulted in terms of constitutional scholars or lawyers before going through this. and paul, as you point out the unintended consequences of this. we have specific reaction. certainly, some members of the hill speaking out. orrin hatch releases a statement
saying "i strongly urge the new administration to move quickly to tailor its policy on visa issuance as narrowly as possible," saying that the vast majority of visa-seekers "represent a promise, not a threat to our nation." house speaker ryan defends the ban. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell so far has been silent. tara, is that a surprise, that mitch mcconnell has not taken a position, or is his silence deafening right now? >> some might say his silence is deafening, but i would say that his silence is an intended silence. he has to work with this new administration. he has a lot on his agenda in terms of what he wants done. and for him, i don't think this is a fight he wants to pick ten days into the administration. also, a lot of these conservatives are, you know, security hawks, and they think that our immigration system is being penetrated by terrorist networks. and this is something i'm sure he's probably in favor of, or else we would have heard about it, or he's just deciding that
this isn't a fight worth taking right now. and i mean, paul ryan said he supported the bill. he referenced his own bill, the american safe act after the paris attacks that was essentially killed in the senate afterwards. his ban didn't mention the word muslims in it. but you know, the congress came up with the list of these seven countries that they thought residents, citizens of these countries should not be allowed into this country. they name them as, you know, as concerning terrorist havens. so this isn't really a surprise that they're not against this. but at the same time, the blowback when their constituents get involved, they're going to be facing their own political issues at home and then we'll see how they react. >> yemen has been a hotbed of terrorist activities for years. we know that in 2000, prior to the attack here with the "uss cole" booming in yemen, done by al qaeda, and that was less than a year before the attacks that we saw here. paul, we know that the president on his schedule today, he has
expected phone calls with the king of add rasaudi arabia, the prince of the united arab emirates. both are muslim countries. how do you think that will play out in these conversations? again, these countries are not on the list of travel bans. >> that's right. and the emite are an interesting collection because, of course, they have been very modern and forward-facing countries and have been very allied with the united states, but they also have an awful lot of upheaval themselves on the ground there and a lot of people who are pushing for a more restrictive form of islam. so they are sort of in the crosshairs here of this battle. it would be very interesting to see where that conversation goes. and again, as the country that mr. trump is actually very familiar with -- they've done a lot of business there, the trump organization -- so we will see how these conversations go, where how do you deal with a country that is trying to be a moderate muslim country in the face of a rising radicalism. >> and again, the majority of the attackers from 9/11 were
good sunday morning, everybody. i'm thomas roberts here at msnbc world headquarters in new york. and at the half hour, here is what we are watching for you today. we have fresh reaction just moments ago from reince priebus, president trump's chief of staff. he's responding to the reaction and the consequences that we've witnessed from the travel ban. my colleague, chuck todd, talked
to him about questioning those on certain countries that were not included on this list. >> why was saudi arabia, afghanistan and pakistan and egypt not included on this list if you are so concerned about this issue? >> we are concerned about the issue, chuck, and that's why we put these seven countries initially into the executive order that were identified previously by congress, by both the house and the senate and the obama administration as being the seven most-watched countries in regard to harboring terrorists. but you bring up a good point, perhaps other countries needed to be added to an executive order going forward. but in order to do this in a way that was expeditious and a way that would pass muster quickly, we used the seven countries that have already been codified and identified by both the obama administration and the congress. >> so, will this list be expanded? and look at this. as reince priebus points out to
the fact that this was seven countries identified by the obama administration, a short time ago president obama's former national security adviser, susan rice, tweeted this overnight, saying "this is stone cold crazy. after a week of crazy, who needs military advice or intel to make policy on isil. syria. afghanistan. dprk?" we expect more protests to pop up nationwide today, all in opposition to president trump's executive order temporarily banning immigrants coming in from seven majority muslim countries. nbc's sarah dallof is at one of the nation's busiest airports in atlanta, where 11 travelers were detained last night. brief us on the update of their status or any other people that have been detained and also about the protests today. >> reporter: well, hi there, thomas. according to atlanta's mayor, all 11 of those detained travelers have been cleared today after they were held for hours yesterday. now that group includes a grandmother in her 70s and a family of three, legal
residents, green card holders, who were returning from seeing their family in iran. now, they were held in question, that family was, for about six hours yesterday, before they were released and allowed to return to their home in northeast atlanta. now, their relatives spoke on their behalf, expressing confusion and frustration. >> this overnight ruling has confused -- [ inaudible ] i don't blame the people who are doing their job. i give them credit. they are confused. >> reporter: now, in response to the events of the last 24 hours and the executive order, protests are being held across the country in philadelphia, boston, washington, d.c., los angeles and here in atlanta where thousands of people have already indicated on social media, thomas, that they plan to attend. back to you. >> sarah dallof reporting in atlanta for us. sarah, thank you very much.
we take to overseas now and reaction there. lucy kafanov is in our london bureau. explain what the view in britain and elsewhere is over this order. >> reporter: shock, outrage and disbelief, thomas. we saw condemnation from the leaders of france and germany, but here in the uk, an uproar, especially from prime minister theresa may's only party for not taking a tougher stance. she is in an awkward position after her visit to the white house, perhaps trying to not alienate mr. trump, but she's been forced to respond. her spokesman issuing a rather muted statement, saying essentially that america's immigration policy is america's business, but, and i quote, "we do not agree with this kind of approach and it is not one that we will be taking." a much harsher reaction from boris johnson, now the foreign secretary. he took to twitter to slam the travel ban as divisive, wrong to stigmatize because of nationality, saying "we will protect the rights and freedoms of uk nationals, home and abroad." now, from the public, there's been growing calls to cancel donald trump's upcoming state
visit to the uk. there's been a petition supporting that call launched just this morning, just a few hours ago. now, thomas, it has more than 250,000 signatures. and then, of course, olympic, 258,000, sorry. it's growing by the minute. we heard from olympic champion moe pharaoh, one of the most successful athletes, knighted by the queen. he weighed in. he's a british citizen of somali origin who's been living and training in oregon. he wrote on facebook "it's deeply troubling that i will have to tell my children daddy may not be able to come home." this is not something that's playing out well abroad, thomas, certainly not with america's western allies. >> quickly, the benchmark for uk petition to be responded to by parliament. we know in the u.s., a petition needs to reach 100,000 signatures before it gets a direct reaction from the white house. do you know the benchmark needed there? >> reporter: i'm not sure. i'll have to get back to you on that one. >> as we're watching this, the number is vastly rising, so it