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chair, pete buttigieg, has just dropped out of the race. we'll have a live report from the dnc meeting coming up in just a moment. one of the president's biggest supporters in congress, congressman darrell issa, is calling for a special prosecutor to investigate russia. also new today, the white house is pushing back on an ap report based on a leaked document which appears to challenge the president's theory behind the travel ban. and as i just mentioned, moments ago at the dnc meeting, one of the leading contenders in the race suddenly dropped out moments before the vote is set to take place. we'll take you live to nbc's alex seitz-wald in atlanta. >> reporter: so mayor pete buttigieg of south bend, indiana, one of the rising stars in the party, he's a 35-year-old navy veteran, rhodes scholar, he just dropped out of the race. he didn't have a ton of support among dnc members but he might have enough to swing it one way or the other between tom perez
and keith ellison. however, he decided not to endorse from the stage. talking to aides from the other campaigns, the thought was most of mayor pete, as he likes to be called, his support came from the ellison side of the camp, so this could be very good news for keith ellison who needs good news right now. the last 24 hours have gone against him and more towards the perez camp. one more piece of news, sheinelle, the party, after a lot of internal discussion, just recently decided to switch from electronic balloting to paper balloting. that's going to delay the election, delay the whole process even further. this room has already been heated at times, with that delay it could get even more intense as we movento the voting as soons these nominating conventions wrap up behind . >> all right, alex seitz-wald. i understand we have a clip from mayor pete buttigieg, let's take a listen. >> speaking nonstop with voters who have been kind enough to give us the most serious
consideration. i now realize that it is time for this process to move on without me. it is time for this process to move towards a solution we can all get on board with. and that means it's time for the party that i step aside. >> alex, let's bring you back in here. you mentioned this a little bit ago. we have viewers, obviously, constantly tuning in. explain how this works. this year more than ever people are paying attention to things like this. >> reporter: right, it's incredible, the dnc has not had a competitive vote like this where members get together and we don't know the outcome, for 30 years. there's 447 members of the dnc all sitting behind me here. they're the only people who have a vote in this race. it's been going on for four months, the campaigns have been talking to these people trying to get them on their side. it's been neck and neck between ellison and perez going into
this race. a candidate dropping out, a conversation that might happen backstage, that can be enough to switch the outcome of this race in such an internal party kind of election like this. >> all right, always a busy day here, alex seitz-wald, thank you for checking in with us, we'll certainly continue to check in with you in atlanta as the day goes along, thank you, alex. let's bring in nbc's kelly o'donnell. kelly, we have tweets, leaked reports, a busy day for you on this saturday. >> reporter: well, sheinelle, one of the things that's often a feature of being here at the white house is that there are protesters in the area. that happens pretty much on a daily basis. and i've been hearing some chants against president trump, not far from here, about a block away. again, that is a standard thing, people come here to protest for or demonstrate against certain things. so we start with that at this hour, it's the first time i'm noticing it on this day. the president has no public events on his schedule but he has a couple of big things just down the line. tomorrow he'll be hosting the nation's governors here for the
first social event at the white house on this kind of scale. mrs. trump, the first lady, will also be here and a part of planning that. we're looking to tuesday as well, that's his first address to a joint session of congress. it will look like a state of the union address. but for a new president, it is not given that title. it will be a way for the president to outline some of his expectations and policy ideas. and the real challenge may be to do less of a campaign rally style speech and something that would be more suited for that environment and how will donald trump navigate that sort of divide. that's something we're looking toward for tuesday. this weekend we're hearing from the white house with some displeasure i think would be one way to describe it, over the surfacing of a three-page document from the department of homeland security that is critical of the president's seven-country travel ban, that immigration order that's been stopped in the courts, but we expect that the president will
release a new version that will take into account some of the legal challenges sometime later this week. and that document is called incomple incomplete, not taking into account classified information, and also described as political, because advisers here say that the completed, more comprehensive report will be driven by data intelligence and not politics. so there is pushback even within agencies of this government. these are largely, we presume, career employees, and that is part of the tension that we're seeing, with a policy idea that's been controversial coming from the white house, and a white house having challenges in trying to sort of keep a lid on the message, not yet ready to release that, but a three-page document did surface, and it challenges some of the ideas, specifically with those seven countries, the thesis of that three pages is to say that those seven countries are not necessarily predictors about a risk for u.s.-based terrorism.
that's something the white house will dispute. but it is a part of one of the things that president trump says, quote unquote, he will not apologize for trying to protect the american people. we hea him defd that policy at the conservative nference known as cpac where he spoke on friday, sheinelle. >> nbc's kelly o'donnell, as always, thank you, kelly. let's bring in a senior correspondent at "the hill" and john harwood, chief white house correspondent for cnbc. let's play what congressman darrell issa said on bill maher last night. >> we're going to ask intelligence committees in the house and senate to investigate -- >> independent prosecutor. >> you're right, you cannot have somebody, a friend of mine, jeff sessions, who was on the campaign and who is an appointee. you're going to need to use the special prosecutor's statute and
office. now, we have to work with them. we don't have to trust them. we need to investigate their activities. and we need to do it because they are bad people. >> he's obviously talking about the alleged ties between trump operatives and russia. amy, how big a deal is this? >> it's a pretty big deal. this is a guy who supported president trump all through the campaign, was a really staunch supporter. we've noticed a little bit of daylight, since president trump took office, this is -- darrell issa has come out and contradicted, said the president was moving too quickly on executive orders, that he should slow down a little bit. he wasn't too pleased with the immigration ban. he said as much. this is kind of the third time that he's come out and said, you know, has gone against president trump and has said that we need a special prosecutor here and that that needs to happen. i think it is pretty significant for one of his staunchest supporters. >> john, a special prosecutor, is that a slippery slope for anyone being investigated. >> definitely. that's why the white house will
certainly try to avoid this as much as they can. but you've also had the circumstance of mark warner, ranking democrat on intelligence, saying that unless he can have greater confidence that his co-chair richard burr of north carolina has not compromised himself by enlisting intelligence officials to try to back up the trump administration's version of events or push back against news stories, he said he's going to sponsor an attempt to have a special prosecutor, independent commission, that sort of thing. so you're starting to see, as amie was suggesting, not just from darrell issa but other republicans in congress, not to mention democrats, beginning to feel the results of the difficulties that trump is experiencing politically as you've seen in town halls around the country. >> ami amie, i wanted to ask yo about several media outlets
being excluded from a white house briefing. take a listen. >> the thing that was most jarring to me is when we were trying to make our way into sean spicer's office, that the person who was sort of shepherding us in said to some outlets, "absolutely, absolutely," and was very cold and blocked others. and when i asked, can i have a statement about why this is happening, because i thought it was really unusual, the word that came out of this aide's mouth was, "you're threatening me." >> what? >> exactly. that's not what we were doing. i was just trying to figure out why politico wasn't allowed in, why cnn, why buzzfeed, because that's a story, at the end of the day. >> amie, can you clarify that for me? a lot of us are thinking, how does this work, it almost sounds like a bouncer at a club, this person can come in, this person can't. >> it's interesting what tara said. i would say i covered the white house for all of obama's --
president obama's eight years, and now president trump. and this was something that president obama did as well. that's not getting as much coverage. but these are gaggles, these aren't public press briefings. they're inside the press secretary's office. they're at a smaller setting. the white house also has smaller briefings in the old executive office. and the hold these smaller briefings for select outlets. this is pretty unusual that they're targeting mostly republican outlets, a lot of republican outlets were allowed in. but, you know, this is something that is sort of at the liberties of the white house and who they want to allow into these private sessions. and president obama's administration did this as well. >> john, i have to tell you, a lot of people didn't know that. >> it's something that hasn't really been reported as much. but i have been excluded from some of these briefings under president obama as well. it's pretty much, you know, at the mercy of whoever is in
charge of these gaggles. >> john, what's your reaction? >> well, i think we're talking about different things. of course every president, including president obama, president bush and others, have invitation-only events and briefings involving perhaps the president on an off-the-record basis, or senior officials, the press secretary, no question about it. but i believe this was in lieu of the public press briefing yesterday. i don't think they had a public press briefing. usually the morning press gaggles the press secretary has are open to whoever can cram into the office. and whoever is in the white house goes up for these sessions. so i do think this is different. it is true that presidents have invitation-only things. i think this was a different circumstance. and i also think it was different in the sense that particular news organizations seemed to be singled out for having written things that the
white house didn't approve of as opposed to people limiting it to, you know, the largest outlets or whatever. >> i want to try and squeeze this in, either one of you can jump in or both if we have time. what do we expect the president to address on tuesday? amie? >> i think he will talk about his big initiatives, tax reform. he needs to lay out a roadmap, he hasn't done that for members of congress and they felt a little bit excluded, some members i've spoken to say they need a better idea what's in store for them. he'll have to talk about tax reform and infrastructure and building the wall. he's going to have to lay this out in a little greater detail and kind of step away from the campaign rally setting. >> john, is it time to talk details? >> not so much details. you know, we believe that as tom price, the hhs secretary, has told house republicans, they're not going to submit their own independent health care plan. but as for the speech, typically
this is an attempt by the incoming president to bring the country together behind his agenda. in a normal circumstance you would expect him to reach out to try to show some self depositiondeposition depositionry self deprecation. we've had no indication from the white house that they want to reach out, they want t push their side as far as they can. >> john and amie, thank you for talking to us on this saturday. it's warning to the media, but what action will president trump take to back up his tough talk on the media? >> i say it doesn't represent the people. it never will represent the people. and we're going to do something about it. >> i'll talk with the leader of cpac, next. eing there for my sos winning shot. that was it for me. that's why i'm quitting with nicorette. only nicorette mini has a patented fast dissolving formula. it starts to relieve sudden
now to the first 100 days. president trump took the stage at cpac yesterday, hammering home a message about keeping his campaign promises and hinting at some of the ways the annual right wing gathering has evolved. >> i would have come last year but i was worried that i would be at that time too controversial. we wanted border security. we wanted very, very strong military. we wanted all of the things that we're going to get. >> joining me now is matt schlapp, chairman of the american conservative union, the organization that sponsors cpac. good day to you. >> good day to you. we prefer to be called conservatives. >> tell me if i heard this correctly. is trump the first president to speak at cpac in his first year? is that true, since ronald reagan? >> the first president, yeah, since ronald reagan to speak to cpac in his first year.
ronald reagan spoke at cpac 13 times. donald trump is coming here to say to the conservative activists assembled here, i know you're the heart and soul of the republican party and i wouldn't be president without you. >> were you happy that he took your invitation? he gave you a little bit of a shoutout. >> i was happy that he accepted the invitation. i also asked him on his way out if he would come next year as well. i expect him to come next year. look, i think presidencies are interesting. he's had a good first 30 days for conservatives. but, you know, we don't know what kind of challenges are to come his way. it's important that he have a good connection to the conservative base of the party. >> matt, let me ask you about some of the hot topics are talking about. i want to hear from you about some of the transformations that have taken place in this year's cpac. we know president trump's controversial chief strategist steve bannon was invited for the first time this year, quite a
contrast from last year when bannon and his colleagues ran a rival conference, called "the uninvited." >> since i've been chairman, the uninvited have been the invited, they've been at cpac and talked at cpac. steve bannon is someone i know well and have worked with over a decade. i know some people say some of the most horrible things about him and those things are not true. my encouragement to him is to talk more about what your point of view is, because there might be political disagreements out there, but it's always better when you can voice them. and i think he gave voice to those beliefs and concerns that he has and i think it was one of the highlights of the conference. >> but matt, what do you say to the people who are watching and screaming at the tv, he's been associated with the alt-right, reportedly called breitbart, which he headed up, the platform for the all tt-right. do you associate steve bannon with the alt-right as he himself
has in the past, and what does that mean to you? >> the first time i heard the term alt-right is when hillary clinton talked about it in a rather famous campaign speech during the presidential campaign. i didn't really know what she meant. as we've done research, i think when steve bannon and others talked about the alt-right they meant a new conservative movement. they didn't mean to associate with this very racist, hateful, bigoted group that claims this title. as far as i'm concerned, as the chairman of the acu, the alt-right, this racist, hatred, bigotry has no role in the conservative movement, they're not conservatives. what steve bannon and others are trying to do is actually just the opposite. they want to bring all kinds of voices, including diverse voices, into this new movement. they now that's how they're going to be successful. >> i'm glad you brought this up. i was reading a "new york times" article, i wanted to ask you about dan schneider, the executive director of the
american conservative union. it says "the new york times" reported that mr. schneider is condemning the alt-right as a sinister organization trying to worm its way into our organization. the alt-right, he asserted, is a left wing fascist group that hijacked the very term. how do you reconcile all this? there are people who firmly believe this organization and conference has a bunch of frankly racists walking around. what would you say to that? >> well, you know, the only antidote for that is for them to come and walk around and see who's here. we have a very big, diverse group of folks here, a lot of young people who are here. you know, everything is on television. that's the beauty of cpac. it's all there for people to see. and it has been a fantastic conversation about the issues facing the country. and i can't help it if certain people always disparage the conservative movement. and i can't help these intolerant voices that try to be
barnacles on our ship. what we stand for is a very simple thing, that individuals are sovereign, and that they allow the government to do things. it's not the government who controls our lives. and actually people from around the country are looking at what trump is trying to do in the wake of the obama administration, and they're taking a new look at the proper role of government. and that's what we focus on at cpac. >> that "new york times" article also looked at a conservative identity crisis, they call it, in the trump era, they say cpac is being transformed into tpac, the trump political action committee? >> kellyanne conway said in a clever way, maybe they'll call cpac tpac. that's never going to happen. we think the president has had a great first 30 days, it was very respectful for him to be here, but i expect we'll have rockier moments to come. we'll stand up for our
conservative principles. as i said in my introduction of the president, we'll have his back as long as he keeps up this fight. but we understand that our job is to stand up for these principles even when he's wrong. and we will do that. so cpac, we're not changing our name, we're always going to be the conservative political action conference. >> i'm glad you mentioned that, let's talk about steve bannon also said this, let me play a clip. then we'll chat quickly. >> just like they were dead wrong on the chaos of the campaign and just like they were dead wrong on the chaos of the transition, they are absolutely dead wrong about what's going on today. it's not only not going to get better. it's going to get worse every day. if you think they're going to give you your country back without a fight, you are sadly mistaken. every day, every day it is going to be a fight. the three buckets, the first is national security and sovereignty. the second line of work is what i referred to as economic nationalism. the third, broadly, line of work is what is deconstruction of the administrative state.
>> what do national security and sovereignty, economic nationalism and the deconstruction of the administrative state, what does that mean to you? >> well, what it means is first of all, as i talk about the fact that sovereignty resides in the individual and not government. what we've seen with all these independent agencies in the federal government is that they are promulgating thousands and thousands and thsands regs that are on auto pilot, they're not going through congress, they don't even necessarily have to be approved by the president in some cases. that's just on auto pilot. we don't think that's the right way for regulations to be promulgated. it should have to go through the legislative process. in the end it all flows back to our economic growth and can we get this economy rolling. in president trump's mind, and i think with the agreement, the full-throated agreement of the people here, they believe that if we can't get our economy growing and if the american economy can't be the most dominant economy on the globe, then we're going to see middle class americans continue to
struggle and not take home -- have more take-home pay. when he talks about trade and talks about immigration, what i hear is, we've got to get this economy rolling. >> how much time do you think they'll give him? >> that's a great question. first 30 days are off to a great start. but we have a long time to go. and my guess is that we're going to be talking about these midterm elections, you know this, you're in the tv business, within a year we'll already be talking about recruitment for the senate races, in the key red states where there are currently democratic senators. this year it's critically important to get things done, for real progress to be seen on getting the economy chugging and making the american people feel like they're doing better economically. >> matt schlapp, i have to leave it there, thank you for your time. >> thanks for having me on. ahead, a new jersey congressman is facing the music. another town hall days after the republican caught a lot of heat. >> do you support impeachment?
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welcome back. i'm sheinelle jones here at msnbc headquarters in new york. ballots have been distributed at the dnc meeting in atlanta. at any moment democrats will begin voting for their new party chair. the balloting was supposed to be electronic but the acting chair decided to use paper ballots which will slow down the process. we'll bring you the results of that election when they come in. now to texas where thousands are expected to gather at the state's capital for the no ban, no wall rally in opposition to policies organizers say vilifies the latino and muslim
communities. nbc's marianna estensio has more. >> reporter: organizers are setting up for this rally to protest president trump's i immigration policies. according to the facebook group, they're expecting hundreds to show up. we're expecting to hear from congressman joaquin castro of texas. families who fear deportations, who are already starting to be affected by these policies, will take the podium today. this is organized by a facebook page, a very organic grassroots way, which is what we've seen in the past couple of weekends with several of these rallies across the country, organized by everybody people like omar and simi. what is the goal behind today's
event? >> we're trying to unite people all around texas with volunteer organizations, advocacy organizations that support these marginalized groups. that's really the core focus, and get them real information about how these policies affect immigrants and refugees. >> we want to unite the muslim and latino community to protect the immigrant and refugee rights. i think it's time we shared our forces and our burden and become one, because it's not only what the president is doing. it's also what is being done at the local level as before. >> reporter: thank you so much, guys. sheinelle, you heard about sb 4, that's senate bill 4 here in texas. it's the bill at the center of the immigration debate in the state of texas currently. we'll see what the turnout is like today. i'll keep you updated throughout the day here on msnbc. >> it's a busy saturday. another rally is getting under way in wisconsin, organized by supporters of planned parenthood. this event comes after speaker paul ryan pledged to strip funding from the organization.
let's go to nbc's beth fouhy in wisconsin. >> reporter: hey, sheinelle, things are starting to get geared up here. we'll see the major outflow of people in about an hour or so. we're seeing a lot of folks here in wisconsin who really want to send a message to the speaker of the house, paul ryan, who is from wisconsin. we actually started the day down if kenosha, wisconsin, which is part of his district. it's the largest city in his district. there is a clinic there, cecile richards, the president of planned parenthood, actually made a stop there to visit and check it out, laying that pressure on paul ryan, who has said he wants to defund planned parenthood, strip it of federal funds because the organization provides abortions. the hyde amendment precludes federal money going for abortions. paul ryan and others say plant parenthood shouldn't get any federal funds at all for any purpose because they do provide
abortions. if this fund stripping went through, the greatest effect would be on lower income women who depend on planned parenthood for medical care. take a listen. >> the effect would be catastrophic, these patients would have nowhere to go, which would lead to a pattern of them unfortunately being in a position where they would have to neglect their basic health care needs, which always, we know, leads to an increase of medical crises and poor health outcomes. >> reporter: this rally is going to get fully under way in about an hour, sheinelle, back to you. >> nbc's beth fouhy reporting in wisconsin, thank you, beth. what never trumpers have to say about what we've seen and heard during the president's first month in office, coming up. ing there when you're needed most. love is knowing... he's the one. (vo)...it was meant to be. and love always keeps you safe. we're fine.
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about the type of speech president trump will give when he visits the joint session of congress on tuesday. during his remarks at cpac, he made the media and former opponent hillary clinton the target of his attacks. joining us is the co-founder of stand up republic with evan mcmullin. good afternoon to you. >> good afternoon. >> let's talk about the specific ways your organization is looking to fight against the trump administration in these first 100 days. had a can you te what can you tell us? >> we're mobilizing a grassroots movement that will stand up for the defense of democracy, the promotion of liberty, equality, and truth. this was an election that was divided. clearly donald trump won, he is the president. but he's not particularly popular. people are concerned about his attacks on the media. they do want to see his tax returns be released. they had concerns about the travel ban or immigration executive order. they're concerned about our
politics and how tribalistic our politics has become. we want to ensure there's a counternarrative, that we're able to galvanize that energy, people are so tuned in and want to make an impact, and use that for good, in defense of our democracy. >> what would your grade be for the president in these first 30 days? >> a grade? i'm glad i'm not his teacher. you know, i mean, i would give him a "d," i would say. >> and what's your reason for that? usually with a "d" there's a little bit of explanation. >> sure. i think what the white house has trying to do is thread the needle and offer enough to conservatives to make conservatives hang on and have hope in this president and perhaps overlook some of the more dangerous aspects of this white house. his continued attacks on the press, calling out fake news. i'm not quite clear yet what fake news means to him yet other than stories he does not like.
that's of great concern. a free press is in the first amendment. calling protesters paid, writing them off as being paid. several of these things are straight out of an authoritarian playbook. it's the undermining of our democracy. it's the moral equivalency of what vladimir putin and russia have done in terms of killing their opponents, to what the u.s. has done, his continued praise of vladimir putin while he attacks americans and our core institutions. as someone who has been a conservative, worked in the republican party for my entire adult life in some form or fashion, worked for republican presidents, i want him to succeed. i want want any president to succeed. i want him to make wise decisions. but some of this conservative catnip isn't enough for me. it does not outweigh some of the more dangerous aspects of his administration. >> mindy, i grapple with this, you use the word "dangerous," and i think about the president's speech at cpac, they were cheering, he couldn't get through his speech, every two
words, they were cheering and clapping. how do you reconcile this? he was in a room full of conservatives. >> our politics unfortunately have become tribalistic, and this happens on both sides. what some see as totally unacceptable in a leader of the opposing party, they're accepting and cheering as a leader in their own. that's not just about donald trump. that's something that's happening across our politics. that's of great concern. this is -- for conservatives right now, donald trump is their leader. whether he's a conservative or not. he's actually said in the campaign that he's not a conservative and it doesn't matter. but they're going to cheer him because he's their tribal leader, and there are things that he has said and is doing that are conservative. >> is there anything he could say on tuesday that would -- i don't want to use the word "soothe," but make you say, you know what, maybe we can listen to this, make we can do this? anything he can say on tuesday?
>> of course. there are things he could say. he could call us to a better place. he could talk more about the importance of america being a shining city on the hill like ronald reagan did, a beacon of home for the world. he could praise the fact that this is a country with a free enterprise system that's inspired choice and competition and unlocked innovation, the potential for that. he could speak honestly about the fact that yes, there are people that have been left behind in this economy in a dramatic way. >> do you think, mindy? i mean, come on. >> he's not going to do that, which is what you're getting to. we've waited for this pivot or for a different donald trump. he said his inaugural speech was one that would be inspiring, that would be a call to unity, and it was not that. that cpac speech certainly was not. so sure, i would love to see on tuesday a different donald trump. i'm skeptical that that's what we'll see. >> i have to leave it there, mindy finn, thank you for talking with me today.
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it's the been a wild couple of weeks for republican lawmakers as they face angry constituents at town halls across the country. at one for congressman leonard lance, more than 1500 people showed up with questions on everything from russia to the environment. >> do you support impeachment? >> now is the time to put country before party. >> i feel betrayed. all of us feel betrayed because you have flip-flopped on your position on the environment. what is your position? pick a position. >> congressman lance joins me
now, good afternoon to you. >> thanks for having me. >> it takes a certain kind of person to stand there and take it and listen and respond. you're coming from an another town hall this morning where i understand 900 people showed up. talk to me about these town halls, what kind of concerns and questions have you been hearing the most? >> i think there's concern across the board. and i understand that. i was very disappointed when mitt romney lost the presidency and many of the constituents with whom i've met over the last two days in town halls are concerned because of the election of donald trump. and i'm a republican, but i understand concerns, and i try to indicate to my constituents that i intend to represent everybody, republicans, democrats, and independents. >> how do you explain this sudden outpouring of sentiment? i've heard people say, listen, we knew this was coming, he campaigned on this. are your town halls usually so impassioned? where has all of this come from? >> i think we've had an excellent turnout.
the turnout is larger than it's been in the typical town hall meeting. in 2009, in the summer, i had a town hall meeting largely of constituents who were represented by the tea party. and this is similar in some ways to that. a new president in 2009, a new president now in 2017. there were about a thousand people this morning, as there were on wednesday evening. and i want to reach out to everybody in the congressional district i serve, sheinelle. >> the president himself has suggested these angry crowds are paid protesters. what do you think about that? do you believe that? why do you think the president continues to stick by this argument? >> i don't believe anybody was paid this morning or at my town hall meeting on wednesday evening. i indicated at the beginning this morning that i believe nobody in the audience was paid. and i said, and if you have been paid, please report it on your income tax because we need the tax revenue in washington. so i'm sure that the
constituents were there to express their concerns. and i think that's true across the country. i don't think there are very many paid in the audience. in my audience i don't think there was anybody who was paid. >> moving forward, you're hearing from all of these constituents. has it changed your mind? what do you think republicans should do after listening to all of these people who are talking about real life and death issues here? should they repeal, replace? what do you think? >> i've always indicated on the president's health care policy, the aca, that i favor repeal and replace. and we cannot repeal unless there's a replacement in effect. i don't want anyone to fall off a cliff. the word i've used recently is "repair." i've certainly heard that at town hall meetings, that we have to make sure moving forward that we amend the legislation in a judicious fashion, in a responsible fashion. and i think it's going to take some time. i don't think this is going to happen overnight. the president himself has said it might take a year or into 2018. i think we should proceed with
caution. but it does need major revision because the exchanges are collapsing. premiums are rising. deductibles are rising. so we have a lot of work to do in that area. >> do you think fellow republicans, exchanges are collapsing, and the premiums are rising and the deductibles are rising and so we have a lot of work to do in that area. >> and would the fellow republicans agree with repair, and revise as opposed to throwing it out so to speak? >> yes, the consensus is growing that we have to reform it and certainly not repeal it back to the situation that existed before it was put into place in 2010. >> congressman leonard lance, thank you for your time on this saturday. >> thank you very much. >> still ahead, it is a daunting challenge to revive one of america's great cities, and 22-year-old woman is hoping to lead the comeback. you will meet her coming up next.
young african-american pioneers and you can find it on nbc news.com, and one of those featured is 22-year-old maya jones who ran for mayor of detroit while wrapping up her last semester, and she is also a fomer capitol hill intern for congress brenda lawrence, and detroit native. how are you? >> great. hoy are you? >> great. maya, digging right no in, why did you decide to run for mayor? >> well, right now we have a mayor who wants to do whatever is on their own, and that is not what we want similar to trump. we want it to be one central community, and the millennials, we need a voice at the table. right now, we don't have that, and it is important to get ourselves to have get there, and not have apathy towards the political system, and voting and we have tot get somebo get the . >> and you know what people are
saying, 22, and i applaud that, and just a year ago, you can do what you did a year ago. and what do you say about people thinking you are too young? >> well, people have been young trying to change and dr. mar ther king was only 22. and so i have proven time and time again with my age that at even before 22, i can get the job done. out here doing the community work, and running the organizations, and it is okay to be young, and we have to get the young people out there to vote. >> what issues are you prioritizing as mayor, and detroit gets a bad rap, but clearly, you want to focus on the city. >> yes, i want to spend time on the neighborhoods. people say that you cannot revitalize, but we have seen how downtown has had, so we want to have that progress in the
neighborhoods. you can't go outside without somebody being in the abandoned house next to you so we have to prioritize the people in the neighborhood. and so people want more say so whenb how people are developing detroit, but the mayor did not want that. so we have the prioritize the citizens of detroit and the neighborhood neighborhoods. that is the biggest concern right now. >> whand do you think about the president to fix the inner cities, and unveiled a team to reach out to the african-american community, and that a positive effort in your mind? >> well, he didn't know what that cbc was, so i don't think that he is serious, but he is saying it to be getting by. if you are not knowing who the cbc is, and how can you help the black community at all? >> and i have 30 seconds for people watching in your area, and for again, people say 22 is sweet, but more time to grow?
>> i need young people to get up and get out and active in the political system. we can't let people who are not in touch with the actual communities to run them. people from detroit need to be from detroit. we need the detroiters to come out here and run the cities. we cannot afford to have someone else who has not grown up here or moved back here to run detroit. we need more young people, too, and i encourage anyone who is, you can run for office at 18, and get ut ore hooshgs and let them know that we do care. it is not the older people, but everybody working together. >> i feel the passion, and i am sure that the people at home do, too. you can learn more about maya and the msnbc bok news. that is going to do it for me this hour. i'm sheinelle jones, and jonathan capehart is up with the latest work from the democratic national committee as they pick
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