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i can report that the picture's still there. >> i think if there's any question whether or not she's watching, that answered it for you. >> always. she's always watching. >> carol lee, vivian, thank you for joining us on set. thank you for joining us this hour on msnbc. tgif, gang. right now, more news from ali velshi. >> that whole thing about youen can find me on twitter, instagram. >> people get it, they know. >> why areou behind closed doors? you've been outside on the beautiful deck all week. >> snow. it's the precipitation. with can't control it. >> all right, i hear you. have a great afternoon. coming up right now on msnbc, the art of the health care deal. president trump is making a hard sell for the gop overall after a bumpy rollout this week. this hour, the president meets with house committee chairs about the plan. we're going to bring it to you as it happens. plus, a view from the front line of health care. i'm talking with the president of the american nurses association. and jobs, jobs, jobs.
plentile i plentiful, this morning, the first report of the trump presidency. what it means for wall street, main street and 1600 pennsylvania avenue. and live at the native nations march in ug whwashington, d.c. demon mo straightstrators takin against the pipeline. plus, i'll talk with taboo from the black eyed peas who's marching to the white house right now. good morning, everyone, i'm ali velshi, talking to you live from new york. on a day where the new jobs report shows 235,000 net new jobs were added to the u.s. economy in february. the unemployment rate down to 4.7%. president trump charging ahead with his party's plan to repeal and replace obamacare. despite major concerns from concern republicans. in about half an hour, both the president and vice president will meet with the committee chairs involved in the process.
some involved a news conference earlier this morning, arguing that obamacare is failing and they are committed to fixing the system. experts at the brookings institution expect at least 15 million people will lose coverage under the american health care act. the replacement for obamacare that's been proposed. but on morning joe earlier, health and human services secretary tom price insisted no one's getting left behind. >> when it's implemented, would anyone lose his or her health care? >> they may be moved from a plan theyurrently haveo a plan that's much more desirable for them to have. >> so the numbers like the 15 million people that have been thrown around that will be moved off the affordable care act are patently false? >> i believe that those numbers look at this in a siloed situation where they don't look at the kind of reforms and changes that will come about. or the options and greater choices that individuals will have. >> that's what you call an unclear answer. the president is directing his
message outside of d.c. sending vice president pence to sell the plan tomorrow in kentucky. we've got all of this covered with our team of correspondents and guests. let's begin with, nbc's chris jansing, at the white house. the president is meeting with various committee chairs. they met today. they gave a president conference. they say they're behind it. what's this meeting about? >> well, it's about -- first of all, thanking a couple of them because they're on those committees that started the process of getting this through, but also a little bit of a pep rally. paul ryan seems to think he has enough votes but the messaging is important. we started to hear it yesterday from the president's spokesman sean spicer, that this is one of just a couple of steps that are going to follow after this. so they really need to get all of these folks on board. he loves this. this is the other critical part of this, ali, which is he
considers himself the master of the art of the deal. that's why he wrote a book on it. that's why he's been calling people in. he did it yesterday. again, as you said, doing it today. and the key people involved in this include mike pence who is going to be one of the people who's out, as you mentioned, in states like kentucky, that frankly has been successful with the number of new people who have gotten on board with health care. so this is, for him, the key part of his strategy. he believes that for this to work, he's going to have to make the deals and he believes he can do it. >>et's talk about the jobs number. chris, you and i were there when it came out. it is big, 235,000 net new jobs. it is not unusually big for a february. the last three februarys have seen at least 235,000 net new jobs or more. but that's never something that stops donald trump from taking credit. >> the sort of understated way they first addressed it, the minute the jobs numbers came
out. folks were pretty pleased. then the president immediately retweeted what drudge put out which was praise. then sean spicer tweeting not once but twice from his two accounts calling it both great news for american workers and not a bad way to start day 50 of this administration. in fact, take a look. the white house has put out what they consider to be the multipage report on their view of the first 50 days of the administration. at the top jump starting job creation, but praising these numbers is a little bit different than what we heard from candidate trump on the campaign trail. >> don't believe those phony numbers when you hear 4.9% and 5% unemployment. the number's probably 28%, 29%, as high as 35%. the worst jobs report in 6 1/2 years. 38,000 jobs. it's going the wrong way, folks. 5% figure is one of the biggest
hoaxes. the end of last week, they came out with an anemic jobs report. terrible jobs report. >> but between this, wall street, the consumer confidence numbers, that sort of trifecta is what the white house is looking at to take attention away from what has been a series of controversies, so much so that we haven't heard from the president this week. we will see if in the pool spray at this mting coming up shortly whether or not he has anything to say. >> typically those pool sprays are -- some intro detectivery comments, and then he tends to kick the media out. >> they'll be a shouted question or two. we'll see if he has anything to say about it. if anything, it may be about these jobs numbers. >> all right, chris, thanks very much, chris jansing at the white house. let's go to capitol hill now where as we mentioned several republican leaders held a news conference just a short time ago. they are arguing again that they are only in the first phase of the american health care act
process. they urged democrats to get on board and work with them. nbc's kelly o'donnell joins me now. kelly, what is -- what is going on here? what's the process looking like? >> we need to take a little time. there is a lot of selling going along. from both parties. we see republicans as chris was just talking about, what the white house is doing. for democrats, there's a lot of focus on what would change that they think especially their supporters would miss if the health care law were, in fact, repealed and in some way replaced. so the upheaval that could affect everyday people's lives. talking about people who would lose their health care. just like social security and medicare. one person who described it in a way that puts the potential blame on president trump himself is democrat of ohio tim ryan, not speaker ryan, tim ryan, a democrat, and here's how he said
president trump will have to answer for whatever comes with the change to the health care law. >> health care's a real opportunity for us to show that trump has really gone back on so many promises that he made during the campaign. this, i think this particular health care bill will go down as one of the great flip-flops in political history. right up there with read my lips, no new taxes. >> and read my lips, for those who don't recall, george herbert walker bush, a generation ago. many believe that promise broke and cost him a re-election in 1992, opening the door to bill clinton. so putting it in terms of could this sort of test for president trump really ultimately decide his electability in four years, presuming he's running again. it's raising the stakes about something that does matter and impact people's everyday lives. but politically, it's also very contentious right now. as republicans are having to also answer the question about one piece of this. and that's medicate expansion
that happened under the obamacare law allowing more people to be ensured. there's a debate within the republican party and conservatives about when that should be changed. and at this point, the law that's being discussed, the bill that's up for be ggrabs right n would keep at expansion for a couple more years, sortof a transition period. there's some conservatives who say it needs to happen more quickly. >> they've got it going until december 31st, 2019. that's got some conservatives, as you say, upset. kelly, good to see you. opposition to the gop plan isn't only coming from the democrats and some republicans. several medical groups are speaking against it. including the american medical association, the american hospital association, and the latest, amongst these, is the american nurses association, which represents more than 3.6 million nurses. joining me is pamela sip rereon, she's the president of the nurses association. thank you for being with us. back in '09, the former
president of your erorganizatio becky patton, stood with president obama, the rose garden of the white house, as he announced health care reform. >> we are going to get this done. becky and i were talking in the oval office. becky pointed out we need to buck up people a little bit here. that's what nurses do all the time. they buck up patients. sometimes they buck up some young resident who doesn't quite know what they're doing. you look at becky, you can tell she knows what she's doing. what she's saying is it's time for us to buck up. >> all right, pamela. this week, you sent a letter to lawmakers se s telling them, th american health care act threatens affordability, access and delivery, end quote, for people across the nation. tell me why you said that. >> ali, we're really concerned. when we think about some of the changes that are proposed in new law. is that the tax subsidies, which are ep ihelping millions be abl
afford health insurance, would change dramatically. not only would they bealtered i of how they'll be available to individuals. one of the other concerns, you're hearing from many fronts, is the consistent opposition to continuing the medicaid expansion. whether it winds down in 2019 or as the president is alluding, willing to negotiate an earlier end to medicaid expansion. we know millions will lose that coverage. these are some individuals who are least able to pay for any kind of coverage on their own. we were so pleased when the affordable care act allowed states to make that expansion and federal dollars certainly have expanded that. but in this new set of legislation, that will really just destroy the availability of insurance and access to services for many individuals. >> health and human services secretary tom price, who's a doctor, recalled a conversation he had with a former colleague about why doctors don't like
obamacare. let's listen. >> they tell me there are patients who come into the office, they make a recommendation for what they need, and the patient cries in their office because they say, i can't afford it because the deductibles under obamacare have gone through the roof. >> you have heard these arguments over and over, i'm sure, about why obamacare doesn't work. and there are legitimate criticisms of obamacare. but is there any part of it that you think works well? that you would say to tom price when he says those things on tv? >> there are many provisions of the affordable care act that the american public is also saying. we support them in recognizing. we want to make sure there is complete coverage for pre-existing conditions. with don't want any bar to inclusion. the provision that allows young people to stay on their parent's insurance needs to continue. it is, again, the financial support of individuals who don't have the ability to pay that's very important. when we think about the number of individuals, or the percent of individuals who are getting their insurance on the
exchanges, it is absolutely latively small percent of the american public. those are the ones, about 6%, those are the ones hardest hit with these high premiums and high de ductable plans. we're in agreement we need to find a way to make insurance less expensive. for those right now who qualify for the tax subsidies, that's the best thing we have going. we can get premium support for them as well as the out of pocket cost sharing. if we're going to work on this together, these are some of the areas we think are really important to be able to lower the overall cost of health care and health insurance in this country. >> pamela, good to talk to you, thank you for joining us. pamela cipriono is the president of the nurses association. all branches of the military are now looking into the nude photo scandal that began with the marine corps. there are new reports this morning that the explicit photos of female service members could have traveled much further than first thought. nbc's hans nichols has the latest from the pentagon.
>> what we're seeing here take place is because these news reports are out there, various service branchs are starting to look into whether or not any of their members were involved in either posting these pictures or actually victims of these pictures. we should note it is the marine corps that's really trying to scramble and get out ahead of this story. there's only one current criminal investigation that we know about. that's being taking place in the navy. and then when we look at what the marines are actually saying, here is the statement last night. they said we fully expect the discovery of marines united will modify marines to come forward. things may seem to get worse before they get better. i got to say what you're seeing here at the pentagon is all the branches sort of bracing for the next shoe to drop. they expect potential more photos to come out there. but the nexus everyone's looking at is are these service members posting pictures about fellow service members.
that's what was very offensive about the initial marines united scandal. that these were marines taking pictures of fellow marines and saying wildly inappropriately sexually explicit things about them. we should also note there are reports that initial marines united page that was taken down, there's a secondary page called marines united 2.0 andey th almost seem to be taunting the media as well as their superiors. that they're going to continue with this behavior. >> that's an interesting thing to be going on in 2017. you think people would have figured this out. thank you for the reporting on that. battling donald trump's travel ban. several states are fighting the revised order. we'll tell you what he said and i'll speak with washington state's attorney general bob ferguson. he's the one who blocked the first order in the courts. and the brand-new jobs report. the first of the trump presidency. we'll break down the numbers and figure out how much credit president trump should actually
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president trump's new immigration order is facing new legal challenges on multiple fronts today. hawaii is the first state to file a lawsuit against the president's revised travel ban. that state's attorney general, seen here, doug chin, says at its core it remains a, quote, muslim ban, and, quote, is blatantly discriminatory. he didn't stop there.
>> what's being set up now is a system where there is certain races that are going to be presumptively in a second class type of environment. and there will be -- there will be a superior race, that is, that is running everything, and so i think that's the concern. >> there will be a see peer yor race that is running everything. now, this comes as washington state attorney general bob ferguson, that man there, who successfully blocked the first travel order, filed papers yesterday asking a judge to halt the new order as well. minnesota and oregon have joined washington state in that challenge. attorneys general in new york and massachusetts say they will join as well. with me now is washington state attorney general bob ferguson joining me for the second time this week. sir, thank you for being with us again. walk me through -- well, last i talked to you, you were reviewing it, you were thinking about it. walk us through what the new
lawsuit is alleging and what you're asking the courts to do. >> you bet, thanks so much for having me back on, really appreciate it. as you noted a few minutes ago, we have a temporary restraining orde blocking the original executive order. but we're asserting to the court, saying hey, your honor, yes, i made some changes in this revised executive order, but they've not cured all the problems. what we're asking the court to do is simply leave in place the existing temporary restraining order. that injunction that is currently in place right now. we're asking that to be held and applied to the current executive order as well. >> let me just help my viewers through this a little bit. you have said that there were two key provision, that you challenged in the original order that are virtually unchanged in this new order. can you explain that for me? >> that's exactly right. two key provisions are. the refugee ban and what's now the six nation ban. they dropped iraq from that list. if you literally put those two provisions from the original executive order and the new one and compare them side by side,
they are virtually identical. yes, the revised executive order does revise some of the negative impacts, for example, that exempts green cardholders and those with visas. the number of folks impacted is more narrow. those two key provisions are virtually identical. there's still harm to my state. that's why we're confident the judge in the district of washington will maintain the injunction on this revised executive order as well. >> other states, as we mentioned, are going to join your lawsuit. a judge granted oregon's request to join. fundamentally for lay people, what's the effect you claim this ban has on your state? >> you bet. a lot of folks who are critics say we're bringing a lawsuit on behalf of individuals in other countries. that's not accurate. that's not why the court granted our restraining order originally. we're bringing this case directly on behalf of the people of the state of washington. for example, our colleges and universities have students who come from some of those
countries and are now unable to travel to washington state. we lose out on the benefit of having those students. businesses are impacted. more than 100 businesses wrote declarations in support of our original action. and talked about the harm to employees and business as well. this case in its essence is about the harm to washingtonians and washington businesses. that hasn't changed with the revised order. >> you heard me say in the introduction hawaii has filed a separate lawsuit claiming that it's blatantly discriminatory. went as far as to say a superior race could be running things. i want to get your thought about what your colleague in hawaii said. >> i've not had a chance to review my colleague's complaint or hear what he's had to say so i couldn't speak to that. we're focused on our lawsuit here. and really appreciate states like massachusetts and oregon and new york joining forces with us. >> all right, what do you think the chances of getting this travel ban halted are for a second time, given that jeff sessions said we've cleaned up the things that were problematic
for the courts, without admitting anything was wrong, they said we cleaned up those things that got it halted in the first place. tell me what you think chances are. >> look, that's what the administration said in the first go around and they lost over and over in the federal courts. look, i would not be bringing this to the court, ask them to maintain the injunction, unless i was confident that we would prevail. we would prevail in the past. i anticipate we'll prevail again this time. >> thanks for joining me twice this week. good to talk to you. bob ferguson is the state attorney general in washington. president trump about to meet with house leaders any minute to push the new health care bill. this comes ahead of next week's budget committee vote. can this bill pass despite its rocky rollout? i'll speak with south carolina republican congressman mark sanchsa sanch sanchez. ericans - 83% try to eat healthy. yet up 90% fall short in getting key nutrients from food alone. let's do more. add one a day 50+ a complete multi-vitamin with 100% daily value of more than 15 key nutrients.
the american health care act is headed to the budget committee which will vote on it next week. any minute now, president trump and vice president pence will meet with house committee leaders. tomorrow, vice president pence is going to kentucky. that state is home to republican senator rand paul who's a member of the freedom caucus and a
staunch opponent of the house republican measure. joining me now, another member of that freedom caucus, congressman mark sanford, who also sits on the budget committee. good to talk to you. thank you for being with us. >> my pleasure. >> what is your biggest beef with this bill as it stands? are you, like rand paul, confident it will change? its final version will be different than what you've seen? >> it's my hope. i think this process of back and forth, a tug-of-war, if you will, of politics, i think necessitates we end up on the place we start. there's a number of things that are still found wanting. this issue of tax credits represents the possibility of a new entitlement. the issue of not closing out the medicaid roles for the next three years hopefully represents something of an open-ended commitment from the taxpayer. there are a number of things that conservatives would like to see tweaked. >> you said, sir, you know, it's an opening proposal. i want to play for you what
house majority whip steve kalese said on "morning joe." >> most recognize this bill has obamacare. it starts the whole process of completely repealing and replacing obamacare. this bill has all those conservative reforms and things like medicaid reform. something we haven't seen in over 50 years. something that's going to really help improve probably the most broken form of health care. >> so congressman, if a full repeal isn't possible, you're pushing for that, what are you willing to negotiate and give up? >> well, i don't know in the final form because we don't know all the different pieces. wait, wait, wait -- >> we know most of the pieces -- >> what's important -- >> i can tell them to you if you like. >> we'll come back to that. what's important, it starts the process. what a lot of us are concerned about, if you have a threefold process and you don't get to step two or to step three in final form, might you end up with a broken bill.
>> you're looking at a vote next week so it would be important to have this conversation now with me on tv. >> yeah, come on. >> all right, so what part will you -- you're not going to get a full repeal without a replacement. there are a lot of your colleagues who just won't go for that and they're not going to get what they need without you so in this point we're in deal making mode, what's your offer? >> what i said earlier, we need to further refine this notion of an open ended taxpayer commitment on medicaid. if you leave this door open, i was a rm toer government. it's going to push a lot of other governors to run for the door if they see a three-year closing of the door. i think that's a problem. >> okay, so what do you replace that with? you're talking about not ending the way medicaid is dealt with. the current proposal is for december 31st, 2019. and then turning it into sort of a block grantor 2020. what do you think works better than that? >> shtening the window. saying this is our number. and we're going to close it out. perhaps january of next year.
because, again, if you leave a couple of years in play, i think it causes a rush for the door. >> are you concerned people will fall off medicate once the states get these block grants and decide to make some cuts? >> well then, again, a, there are two different alterations that would allow people to be covered. states are free to go to any number. the question is can we afford to expand entitlements at a time when we can't pay for the entitlement promises that are already on the books. the other thing is let's look differently at how we handle this number. let's go to 150% perhaps of poverty level. again, make it a simpler formula. by which all states are able to look at the issue of medicaid. it's a real tug-of-war between states that expanded their roles and states that did not. >> we'll follow the deliberations closely. thank you for joining me. mark sanford joining us. the first full jobs report of the trump administration is out this morning. showing that u.s. employers
added 235,000 net new jobs in february. the unemployment rate ticked down to 4.7%. for reference, this is a big number. we've averaged 196,000 a month over the last year. but if you go back to the last three februarys, there were at least this big or more. there is nothing particular about the brand-new government's policies that have caused that number. joining me now, the professor of engineering at carnegie mellon. and michael, the managing partner of heroic ventures and founder of reputation.com. these are big gains by any measure. as you and i have discussed, because of automation and technology, some are estimating as one-third of blue collar and white collar jobs could become obsolete by 2025. you've talked about so-called jobless future because of robots and smart machines and automation and artificial intelligence. what do you think of this?
>> i think we're in good shape. note how donald trump has already made america great again. all these jobs he's creating. the fact is, his obsession is with bringing manufacturing back. manufacturing is going to be robotized. at the same time, we have ai and all these other technologies taking jobs away slowly. it will happen over the next four or five years you'll start seeing them disappearing. uber self-driving cars will be the biggest shock. the day they work, we'll replace tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of cab drivers with robots. so this is -- we're headed to a jobless future, unstoppable, that's the bottom line. >> michael, you were sort of pondering a proposal by bill gates to actually tax robots that replace human jobs. do you think that works? >> you know, i think it's a very interesting proposal. we're friends. we've debated this issue. this is issue we probably disagree on. we agree on most. bill gates proposed a tax on robots that are introduced to
replace human jobs to automate certain kinds of jobs today, in industry for example. very creative proposal. a lot of people objected to it, including a lot of very smart people. but i think we have to take it seriously. just take for example the con ept is concept of depreciation in the tax code. the gao reported last year $80 billion of revenue was lost to equipment only. that's $80 billion of tax benefit given to companies that are buying machines. of course we are incentivizing the purchase of machines. not a bad idea to incentivize the purchase of machines. imagine if you slowed the rate of depreciation. that would be a giveback that would generate more revenue that would pay for retraining and education of people who are definitely going to lose jobs. vick and i agree. we're working on a proposal together. agree that these jobs are going away. it's a big structural change of
employment in america. >> vick, we not only incentivize the purchasing of machines, some would say we disincentivize the employment of people with the taxes and extra things go on that are in order to hire staff. is there not some solution to try to control the loss of jobs to automation? >> you can have taxes on the goods sold and the usage of goods and so on. but ways a robot? i would argue my dishwasher is a robot. i would argue my car's a ro would trobot. the fact we're here is you don't know what a robot is. if you start taxing productivity and innovation, you go down a very slippery slope. with want more innovation. we need to figure out how to look after the people who have been disenfranchised. the angry people who are now, you know, votiing for the wrong president and doing these crazy things. the gap between the rich and poor and knowledgeable and unknowledgeable is growing.
we need to address that gap. we can't come up with more taxes or disincentivizing innovation and automation. we can't stop that. >> he's pointing out what's important, tax card is hard. tax policy is hard. however, the u.s. tax code has actually addressed these kinds of issues before. the u.s. tax code does cognize differences between industry commercial. i don't think it's cute towashe. there are real robots. treat them differently. it won't be perfect. vick is right, it's not perfect. but he's most importantly right on the key point. we have to subsidize and plan to subsidize in a way that's never happened in human history before in the west. perhaps with a minimum wage subsistence or wage insurance. all the people who will be disenfranchised from jobs structurally. this is coming. this train will not be late. >> this is interesting because -- >> it will be devastating to a lot of people. this is technology that could be used to help do that. >> unemployment insurance is
temporary, right, not meant to be permanent. welfare pays at a level that is below sustenance for most people. are you discussing the possibility of in our more jobless future having a minimum income? >> that may be one of the solutions. we may have to give everyone enough to live on. because at the same time, the cost of everything drops. just like tell hel telephony. you can cost anywhere in the world, it cost zero. the cost of sole lar for example is dropping. within the next 5 or 10 years, it will cost one-third as much for solar energy as it does today. which means everyone can afford unlimited energy. we'll have electric cars. they'll happen a lot faster than anyone thinkings. they'll get cheaper and cheaper because the cost of batteries is dropping. we can afford to give everyone the basic things they need. we have to rethink the nature of capitalism itself in this jobless alternative. we better start discussing the real issues and real solutionings. otherwise, we're going to have more donald trumps.
>> i wish i had more time to have this discussion with you because i figure you guys are going to start talking about this and you might come up with some solutions to our capitalless future. >> wouldn't that be amazing, a solution. >> michael, vick, let's make this a regular thing. i love listening to you two. >> i love it, thank you, ali. >> i got to go to washington. the native nations march is beginning. you can see it there. demonstrators are standing against the dakota access pipeline and demanding more native american representation in washington. we're live from the mar with taboo from the black eyed peas. announcer: get on your feet for the nastiest bull in the state of texas. ♪ ♪
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we're back with our daily briefing. it's been another wild week in politics. we're only on day 50. >> how does he know that his phone was actually tapped? >> he's the president of the united states. he has information and intelligence that the rest of us do not. >> he may have being access to documents i don't know about. >> this executive order seeks to protect the american people as well as lawful immigrants by putting in place an enhanced screening and vetting process for visitors from six countries. >> what this is truly about is the president trying to meet his campaign promise to ban muslims and to do it the way that won't be struck down in the courts. >> this bill, the american health care act, it keeps our promise to repeal and replace
obamacare. >> we're going to have something that's going to be much more understood and much more popular than people can even imagine. >> do we need to lower the bar in what we believe is conservatives simply because a republican is now in the white house? >> i think the white house, the administration and the president understand there's enough conservatives that they can't pass obamacare light. >> the central intelligence agency lost control of its entire weapons arsenal. >> this latest wikileaks adversely affects our intelligence community and that's an advantage to russia. >> this is the closest we will ever get to repealing and replacing obamacare. the time is here, the time is now. this is the moment. this is the closest this will ever happen. >> they may be moved from a plan they currently have to a plan that's much more desirable for them to have.
>> that's what happened this week. i know mark murray is itsitting there but i think we should play that again. joining me now is nbc senior political editor mark murray. i don't know how you keep track. republicans have an uphill battle getting this health care bill through congress. you just heard me talking to mark sanford about this. you've got some insights into how it actually can get passed. >> it is a path. it is a really tricky tight rope to work through and step on ali, is republicans in the house have to make the legislation moreconservative. they have to shore up the right flank by tightening the screws on medicaid funding and expansion of medicaid. so that's step number one. step number two is then once that passes the house, they actually have to placate the moderates and the senate. which means actually making the more medicate spending, probably taking out the provision, eliminating funds for planned parenthood. then when it would go back to the house that mitch mcconnell
and republicans would say, take it or leave it. and republicans would have to make that choice. again, that sets up a lot of tricky dynamics with house republicans want more funding for planned parenthood, would they want more medicaid spending? the reaction we're getting now is the answer would be no. if this is their last best chance, that is the chance for passage. >> let's talk about the incendiary claim from trump that president obama ordered the trump tower be wiretapped. fbi director james comey met with senate lawmakers yesterday. kacie hunt caught up with him. >> is there any illegal wiretaps in trump tower? >> no comment. >> my general rule of thumb in life is if es kacie hunt can't an answer, there isn't an answer to be had. what do you know about the fbi meeting with are is senators onl hill? >> we don't know anything, other than the subject of trump tower
was part of the discussion. and to me this is actually -- brings up one or two things are happening and neither of them are good for president trump. on the one hand, that james comey and the fbi are knocking down that entire wiretapping story. that somehow what president trump ended up saying was made out of wholecloth. that's option number one. option number two is there is something there there. that there has been some type of surveillance, somehow, some way. that only is going to prolong this russia story, story involving president trump and his campaign team. and so neither story is good. particularly when james comey walks out of capitol hill and doesn't give an ansr to kacie hunt. >> no kidding. mark, thank you. mark murray for us in washington. happening now, we got act vacht activists for native americans marching towards the white house in a new effort. the march is called native nations rise and comes after mass protests at the standing rock sioux reservation in north dakota against the dakota access
pipeline. joining me along the very cold and wet march route is taboo of the black eyed peas. thank you for joining us. >> good to see you too. >> what messages -- >> taking time to speak to me. >> it's always a pleasure. tell me what you and those people around you are trying to get across to president trump. >> well, our people, all we're trying to do is just speak up for equal rights. make sure that people know we're standing up for indigenous people, women, just so we could have our say, have a seat at the table when it comes to our rights. you know, we went to standing rock. we were there the day after thanksgiving. i participated in being on the front lines. then after that, we went to sundance, participated in that. now we're here in washington, d.c. we're just trying to do our part in a very peaceful manner. and, you know, just make it a point to stand up. >> when i talked to you last,
you were at that protest in north dakota. one of the things you're asking for here, when you said a seat at the table, we're learning a liaison between the white house and native americans has not yet been installed. are you getting any sense from this administration they want to have a dialogue with native leaders in it country and what can they do to help that process? >> not at all. you know that's why we're taking part on these gathering and making sure we're heard, you know, if we have to do it in a way where we unite, all i thats indigenous, we're going to do our part. we'll do it in a peaceful manner. we're going to strategically fight the war against injustice. because it's imptant for us to be present and to be available to speak up and stand up for our rights. that's the message right there, stand up for our rights. >> when you and i last talked, you were making a point, many of us were observing those demonstrations we saw about the dakota access pipelines were the biggest gatherings, biggest
indigenous protest in america, i don't know, i this ink you told me in 100 years or something. i think you're trying to catalyze that movement. can that be done? can you turn this into a movement movement that finally gets long ignored rights for indigenous americans? >> well it started with the youth at standing rock and continuing to grow. it's become a global phenomenon. people are starting to understand the unity within amongst different tribes, tribal leaders and you know this is important for people to understand how we could come together and do this. see the beauty of the people doing their part, taking part in something so amazing that is beyond anything you could imagine. it's human beings coming here to washington for a common cause and as i said as a father, it's my responsibility to educate my kids and let them know that they need to stand up for equal rights as well as they get older
and that's the important thing is how do i become a leader and set an example for my own children as well. >> good to see you, my friend. thanks for being with us and for your continued involvement in civic atakes. taboo of the black-eyed peas. we'll be right back. usaa gives me the peace of mind and the security just like the marines did. the process through usaa is so effortless, that you feel like you're a part of the family. i love that i can pass the membership to my children. we're the williams family, and we're usaa members for life.
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house, we are being contained with all of our ideas based upon a senate rule -- cyber trail, the hunt intensifies for whoever leaked the cia's cyber secrets. wikileaks founder julian assange claiming the leak came from a former private contractor. >> if i was the individual involved, i'd worry a great deal about the fact that ultimately they're going to be found out. and inside game. former national security adviser michael flynn, a high-paid lobbyist for turkey, while advising candidate trump on foreign policy, and the white house says it didn't know. >> well, let me say hearing this story today was the first i heard of it, and i fully support the decision that president trump made to ask for general flynn's resignation.