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thank you for joining us for this busy hour of msnbc live. we'll be back tomorrow. i'm hallie jackson but right now more with my colleague chris jansing. >> thank you, hallie, i'll let you get off to the white house. it's going to be busy today. i'm chris jansing, we're following breaking news on shots fired at capitol hill and capital police firing at the driver of a vehicle. nbc's kasie hunt joins us live. what's the lest from there ka >> reporter: i just spoke to an eyewitness this-to-this incident who told us that earlier today a car driving erratically game down independence avenue, this is one of the main avenues in washington, d.c. and it was being chased by several cop
cars, police cars, that are now, of course, you can see many of them down here and that it ultimate ultimately. police were trying to slow down this driver and when they attempted to ram into the police car there were three shots fired by capitol police. now nobody was injured according to the news conference we just heard a little bit earlier from officials here and you can see, this is quite calmed down and business as usual is returning on capitol hill. this is being described as a criminal incident, not something related to terrorism. and it does seem to be one of those situations where there's more high alert around something that doesn't necessarily have a broad broader terrorism-related situation where because of the proximity right next to the u.s. capitol the response is one that
maybe is more visible unanimous another situation if this had taken place a couple miles from here you wouldn't be seeing the response we're seeing here. we did see a woman put in handcuffs and put into the back of a police vehicle a few minutes ago so it's unclear, we have not confirmed tha that was a suspect but thawas the sense based on the information we ve received from law enforcement officials. chris? >> kasie, thank you very much. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is live from capitol hill and, pete, as kasie was talking about the response i was thinking yesterday when i was walking where you are, there's so many school groups there, this is obviously a very unsettling situation, what have you been able to find out about it? >> well, what the police are telling us -- and this is largely being handled by the capitol police and the metropolitan police, they say this doesn't appear to be an act of terrorism, this was not someone trying to attack the capitol or police officers.
this was what they described an aggressive driver coming at one of the checkpoints at the fool of capitol hill on the west side of the capitol along independence avenue and when they tried to get her to stop she did a u-turn and headed back the other way. that's where the eyewitnesses that kasie was talking to picked up the action. when she wouldn't stop, they opened fire. she did ultimately stop. she's taken into custody. nobody was wounded. no bystanders, no police officers, not the driver. she's a woman, we believe she's in her early 20s. the car had maryland plates but we're told she was carrying a washington, d.c. i.d. card. whether she recently moved to maryland or moved to the district we don't know. we don't kw her name. she's being intervd now. every law enforcement official talked to say this appears to be a criminal act meaning a violation of traffic laws, a violation of commands to stop, aggressive driving but they don't believe this was an attack.
why she was driving fast, whether she was trying to get away from the police or had a record or was under the influence or what, we don't know yet but thing are considerably more relaxed here when this began about 9:30 this morning, chris. >> good to know, pete williams. you'll get to us as we get more information about what happened and who this person is. thank you. there's a lot of other news in washington this morning. let's start with the republican chairman of the house intelligence committee who is clearly standing firm. devin nunes refusing to recuse himself from his committee's investigation into russia's interference in the election. less than two hours ago he pushed back against democrats on his committee, all of them calling for chairman nunes to recuse himself. >> i'm trying to figure out who's serious about doing investigations because it appears like democrats are not very serious about it. i would also say they need to bring in their witnesses because we have an obligation to
interview. as far as i know they've done very little with with the documents the agencies have provided. >> reporter: are y worried ouworking with them? >> we're always concerned aut this. we're going to do the investigation. is. >> congressman walter jones of north carolina is also calling on deposit to recuse himself, he is a reason. back with us is kasie hunt. chairman nunes says he will never reveal his source behind the claim that members of the trump transition team had at least indirectly come under surveillance by u.s. intelligence agencies. pressure mounting. but he doesn't seem to be affected by it. what's your take on where this stands right now? >> reporter: chris, this is unusual for a committee that works pretty well together in a bipartisan way typically. devin nunes and adam schiff had been known to get along
reasonably well before all of this unfold ed. and this is information he got from at the white house and he shared it with the white house before his own committee and the work of the house intelligence committee is at a standstill. those meetings have been postponed and canceled so we don't know when they might be rescheduled. there was supposed to have been an open hearing with sally yates and others testifying yesterday. the chairman, devin nunes, said he postponed that in favor of director comey and nsa director rogers coming back and offering additional testimony. now democrats are telling nbc news now that these hearings were postponed unilaterally. that this was not something they had any say in. they're happy to hear from director comey and director rogers and they want both of them to come in next week but
they would like to see that rescheduled. so there's more faith in what's going over on the senate side. the senate committee conducting an investigation. we're expecting to hear the chairman and vice choirm airmane hear about who the witnesses wille. we know jared kushner, for example, thepresident's son-in-law, expected to testify arivate meeting, be interviewed by the senate intelligence committee. they may end up feeling like they need to look over to the senate instead. chris? >> we're going see something very different at 2:30. kasie thank you. >> thank you. >> oh, we have melania trump.
>> it's an extraordinary story of courage which must inspire us to achieve more than we had ever 3457b imagined possible. their lives remind us of the boundless capacity of the human spirit when guided by moral clarity and desire to do good. these honorees that are on the stage with me have fought for their rights and for the rights of others. each battle forces such as governments, the courts, gender bias, terrorism, war and corruption and were willing in each moment to face harsh penalties, including imprisonment and death. is as they continue to preserve against unimaginable odds these women are extraordinary examples of reaching within to find the
courage that lies inside us all to change the world. while learning the stories of these 12 honorees, i would like to ask each of us to take this moment and try to imagine what it would be like to experience the trying obstacles, domestic abuse, gender bias violence or government impression that some of these women have faced. let us try to envision ourselves in their place struggling against gender bias and discriminatory laws which serve to protect the perpetrators of unthinkable crimes while punishing their victims should they even dare to speak out.
ask yourself if you would have the courage of your convictions and the enormous inner strength required to stand up and fight against such a overwhelming odds. each of our honorees has courageously answered yeso those questions for it is their strength and the strength of others like them to fight against inhumanity, together with the international community, the united states must send a clear message that we are watching. it is therefore important recognize these women, all capable of trying, truly leading
the change to fight for those that cannot fight for themselves. those are the stories of human greatness that will continue to inspire and therefore must be told far and wide. these honorees who have fought on the front lines against injustice are true heroes. their stories of individual bravery remind us that there is always hope wherever the human spirit is brought to bear in the service of others and that healing and personal empowerment are often born from such deeds. i believe that bravery is the ability to live one's life refusing to be discoured and instead choosing a life of
purpose. only when we do this are we able to suppress what we previously believe to be possible. each of these 12 women represents a life on enormous courage, to save a child, to help a family, to make a neighborhood or school safe or to boldly speak out against evil by refusing to back down, no matter the personal cost. to the young people here today. i ask you to allow the triumphs exemplified by these heroic women to inspire you in your own lives and to remind yourself that you, too, are capable of greatness. i urge you to not be afraid to fail as failure will never have
the power to define you as long as you learn from it. and realize that your first steps will always involve taking a leap of faith by believing in yourself while choosing to replace fear for hope. let these brave women serve as daily inspiration as it is now up to each of you to remain vigilant against injustice in all its many forums. as you go forward remember their journeys push ahead and strive to bring about a better community, a better country and a better world in an ongoing fight for right over might. we must continue once again to shine the light on the horrendous atrocities taking place in neighborhoods around the corner and around the globe
where innocent families are crying out to live in safety. we will continue to fight injustice in all its forums in whatever scale or shape it takes in our lives. together we must declare that the era of allowing the brutality against women and children is over while affirming that the time for empowering women around the world is now. for wherever women are diminishes, the entire world is diminished with them. however wherever women are empowered, towns and villages, schools and economies are empowered and together we are all made stronger with them we must begin now to challenge old fears fight long-held prejudices
and stand up against evil and injustice wherever it may be. as leaders of our shared global community, we must continue to work towards gender empowerment and respect for people from all backgrounds and ethnicities. remembering always that we are all ultimately members of one race -- the human race. each one of us is uniely gifted. we must continually reaffirm our american values as we join with the international community to make our world safer through acts of collaborative and individual bravery. thank you honorees for your courage and thank you, ambassador shannon for your support.
god bless you, and god bless this great nation. >> melania trump, that's a rare appearance. as you know she spends most of her time with her son barron in new york city. i think it's worth noting in this rancorous washington, d.c. we live in, this is something we can all agree on, that the era of allowing brutality against women and children should be over. this is the international women of courage award. 13 women being recognized for their courage, fighting often at great personal sacrifice. putting their own safety at risk for human rights, for women's rights, for peace and so this is something started in 2007 by condi rice. first lady melania trump in washington to be part of this award ceremony. in the meantime, speaking of the rancor in washington, d.c., let's talk about health care. surprising comments by president trump that are raising question about its future and the future of the health care fight in
washington. the president telling a bipartisan group of senators at a receptionast night that the effort to repeal and replace obamacare is not dead. >> i know we'll make a deal on health care, that's such an easy one. i think it will happen very quickly because we've all been promising -- democrat, republican -- we've all been promising that to the american people so i think a lot of things are going to happen there. >> nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker joins us live. the "new york times" reporting the white house is engaged in negotiations over an obamacare replacement plan again even though we know that toward the end of the health care fight the president said if this doesn't work out we're going to move on. we're hearing maybe it's steve bannon at the helm, the freedom caucus and the tuesday group have come back to the table. what can you tell us about that? >> i was told by a source today there will be more discussions, chris, that take place today between those groups that you
talked about in terms of the outreach here at the white house. you're right, steve bannon has taken the lead to some extent, reaching out to the freedom caucus. moderates, no indication they've reached out to democrats yet. democrats celebrating the fact that that bill went down in defeat last week but also signaling a willingness to look at some changes, improvements to the health care law. house minority leader nancy pelosi calling on her conference to find areas where they can improve obamacare. but what's the bottom line. i spoke to a source that said there are discussions but there's no real plan in place. there's no timeline. there's a lot of frustration within the republican ranks that they misd an opportunity, one source telling me they botched the opportunity to be able to move forward with this key campaign promise that president trump ran on and that republicans have been campaigning on since 2010 so that there's a sense that it's not dead, chris.
but i would caution this is something very much in its preliminary stages. the talks making sure the efforts to get health care reform done doesn't die all together at this point, chris. >> thank you for that. let me bring in democratic congressman john yarmouth of kentucky. he's the top democrat on the house budget committee. always good to see you, congressman. good morning. >> thanks, chris, good morning to you. >> i'm sure you heard what kristen welker just had to say. there's talk in the white house about getting this going again, pretty much every democrat i talked to acknowledges there are some problems, that changes need to be made in health care. do you see any way, given the reality of what happened on capitol hill, that democrats and republicans can move forward in some way or is the divide so great nothing will happen this year? >> well, chris, i think the first thing that has to happen is the republicans have to promise that they're going to stop trying to repeal the affordable care act and also trying to sabotage it, which is
what they've been trying to do for the last seven years. they know how to make the affordable care act work better because they knew where to sabotage it. so there's some first steps that would be easy to take if they were willingoeach out to us and say give us your ideas for making it work better, we'd love to hear them. we've said it for the last seven years. >> i was surprised. there's a new politico morning consult poll, i don't know if you saw it, the popularity of obamacare is growing now. it's up nine points since january 29%. you can see in the the graphic. the biggest number. they think it should be expanded. you here in a state where it's been a success even though donald trump overwhelmingly won there. . i'm city trying to get to the place where how do you figure out without the partisanship how to keep moving forward on this? >> well, again, all it has to be
is a willingness to talk with us 678 in kristen's report, it was the republicans were negotiating but they were negotiating with each other. there's been one conversation between anybody on the republican side and democrats about health care at all and that's president trump meeting we liej ith elijah cummings and welch about lowering prescription drug prices. we would love to have those conversations but speaker ryan has come to this from an ideological perspective. he has two goals and two goals only, one is to minimize the effect of medicaid and to black grant it and cut it and to cut taxes that were part of the aca which amount to about a trillion dollars over ten years. he doesn't really care about making the health care system work better and that's -- that needs to be the starting point. show us you want to make it work better and we'll help you. >> congressman yarmouth, always good to see you, sir, thank you so much. >> thanks, chris. meantime, virginia's democratic governor taking
matters into his own hands when it comes to health care saying republicans have "no more excuses." governor terry mcauliffe joins me now. good morning, good to see you. >> chris, how are you today? best riches from richmond. >> beautiful day here, i hope it's a beautiful day there. you were tweeting yesterday -- i'm going to read it -- the aca is the law of the land. it's near stay, i'm proposing a budget amendment to move forward with medicaid expansion by october 1. republicans have denied your request to expand virginia medicaid program for years now i'll ask you the same question which is that given we believe the american people not only like this but at least a third of them want obamacare to be expanded. how do you get to that place where something positive happens? >> well, i've been trying to do this for three years in virginia. we have forfeited $10.4 billion. it's about $6.6 million a day. we've already paid for 400,000
virginiaens to get health care. my republican, right wing republicans terrified of the tea party are afraid to vote for this because they're afraid they'll lose a primary election to the tea party. people are dying, i could create up to 80,000 new jobs, save hospitals and provide health care for 400,000. for three and a half years we've had excuse aer excuse after excuse. the eusesre ov. the president of the united states and speaker ryan have said obamacare is here to stay. if it's near say i can structure a plan in virginia where it will not obligate to one single penny, we can do this, bring our own money back and why wouldn't you do this? it is mean spirited, immoral we're not bringing this money back and they're not going to get a deal working with the democrats unless they'll working with the democrats and they stop saying they'll repeal obamacare. should we make it better? the only way forward is to make it better, take the things we all agree on but that says to
the freedom caucus that obamacare is here forever. it's the right thing to do and we in virginia and these other non-expansion states, let's start -- people elected us to get things done. they are sick and tired of the partisan gridlock. i can bring back $2.4 million a year, help me on my opiate crisis, help me deal with mental health issues and do the right thing for our citizens and they will pay a price at the ballot box, you've seen the energy across the country, the town halls are spectacular, they are going to pay a price because they're hurting virginia citizens. >> let me make an argument to you whether it's virginia citizens or the rest of the country that people are paying a price right now and the price they're paying is uncertainty and whether you're healthy or not i hear from a lot of people in various parts of the country who are wondering will i have my healthare next year? what will it look like next year? how much will premiums be next
year. if you acknowledge changes need to be made -- although the problem is the kind of changes are very different, how do you get -- again, get to a point where you can relieve some of that concern? what's step one? what's step two, governor? you know how washington works, you've worked in the states, you've worked in federal government. how do you get to that point? >> and this is where the president has to show leadership. he makes great statements but then he does the opposite thing. if you want to sit down and work out to make obamacare better, stop talking about repealing it. it's here to stay. so forget that campaign promise, you never should have made in the the first place. the rhetoric of campaigning has hit the reality of governing. call the leadership down, democrats and republicans, come up with a plan that makes the system better and he's got to tell his freedom caucus members, obamacare is here to stay, we're going to make it better. it's the only way we can move forward. other than that, we're stuck in this. he is scaring people around the country, he's done it on the travel ban, he's done it on his immigration policies, he's done it on his budget cutting funding
for the chesapeake bay, this man has been a one-man wrecking crew for the virginia economy. it's time to do what you promised you'd do and work on jobs and bring us together. >> governor terry mcauliffe, always good to talk to you. >> thanks, chris, you bet. coming up, exclusive nbc news reporting, president trump's former campaign chairman paul manafort has been investigated for possible money laundering and financial ties to russia. we'll have a report from nbc's richard engel. but first, hillary clinton weighing in on the health care battle. >> these are bad policies that will hurt people and take our country in the wrong direction. g by making every dollar count. that's why i have the spark cash card from capital one. with it, i earn unlimited 2% cash back on all of my purchasing. and that unlimited 2% cash back from spark means thousands of dollars each year going back into my business... which adds fuel to my bottom line.
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trump's inner circle and their possible ties to russia. paul manafort, and long before he was president trump's campaign chairman, manafort was paid millions by a russian oligarch close to vladimir putin. according to one report, manafort promising to greatly benefit the putin government by influencing politics and media coverage. nbc news has learned u.s. treasury department officials are following manafort's money trail, an investigation that's led them and us to a small island in the mediterranean. to find out more we came to cyprus to this city that has a reputation for its beaches and a hub for money laundering. this is where some of the money manafort got from the russian tycoon went. banking sources with direct knowledge of the transactions tell nbc news at least 15 accounts were opened in cyprus for more than 10 companies, all linked to manafort. the sources say in one case a million dollars landed in one of these accounts and left it on
the same day. >> movements of large amounts of money very quickly in and out of account is very similar to what money launderers do. >> and there was a lot of money involved, including $18.9 million to buy a ukrainian media company for this man who according to wikileaks state department officials described as one of two to three oligarchs putin turns to on a regular basis. >> paul manafort played a critical role for a period of time within the trump campaign, was involved in potentially receiving payments from russian oligarchs close to putin. this raises a lot of serious questions. >> manafort has repeatedly said he never worked for the russian government and on tuesday deripaska took out an ad in national papers denying the associated press report that he hired manafort to help the russian government calling it fake news, but in cyprus, which
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providers to sell your personal information and you don't have to say okay. the house voted to overturn fcc rules from the obama era that require internet providers like verizon, at&t, come cast, cast permission before sharing their customers' data. comcast is the parent company of nbc universal. this could include details about online dating and e-mails. now advocates say this is a battle between privacy and profits. joining me now, chris lewis, vice president of public knowledge, an advocacy group and deputy director of legislative affairs at the fcc. so is this a battle between privacy and profits or that hyperbolic? >> i don't think it's hyperbolic. these companies want to use data and make profits off of it. they' they're explicit about it. so these rules say consumers
have to give permission that their data can be used and traded away, sold, given to other companies. >> arguments were made as you know. let me tell you what tennessee republican congresswoman marsha blackburn argued. she says the ftc regulates internet providers. "having two privacy cops on the beat will create confusion a the regulation is another example of big government overreach that suffotes hard-working taxpayers. >> well, that doesn't match the facts of the law. congress passed an exemption for common carriers or broadband providers, it says the ftc cannot regulate them so the fcc stepped into the gap and created these rules to make simple rules that protect consumers. now that the rules are being repealed by congress we're going to have a gap in rules and it's up to congress to fill that gap now. if they created it, if they repealed the rules they need to replace them with something that
gives consumers choice. >> given that this is where we stand, what can the average consumer do? >> the average consumer will have a few options from their internet provider where providers already -- at&t has piloted this -- will offer the option of paying more in order to have your privacy protected. that's unfortunate for consumers. it means their costs could go up. we hope congress will act quickly to close the gap in protections and make sure privacy isn't considered a luxury good but something consumers should expect from their broadband providers. that's important because most consumers only have a choice of one providers very few consumers have a choice of two or three. >> realistically, should people expect almost anything they put on line isotprivate? >> that's a realistic expectn. until they hear about what offerings they may give them they should expect everything they do is being tracked, from
location information to videos they watch online, all of their internet traffic and browser history. >> chris lewis, thank you very much. good to talk to you, appreciate you coming in. up next, the fight to stop isis. americans and russians on the same side of the battlefield in parts of syria. how strategy is shifting to take the self-declared capital of isis next month.
this morning, secretary of state rex tillerson is making his first official visit to turkey, a key nato ally. he will meet with president erdogan and the campaign to defeat isis. he will attend a meeting in brussels, a meeting he originally planned to skip. now let's talk about the fight against isis in iraq and syria. in an unlikely twist, the u.s. and russia are fighting side by side in the battlefield in syria. ose two nations have been on opposite sides of that country's civil war but now both are backing the kurdish fighters there and in iraq. joining me now, nbc news and msnbc national security and military analyst kevin baron, executive director of defense one. help people who aren't expert in
this area to understand the significance of what i just said. >> well, the civilian casualties are a thing of war, but what's happened in the last couple weeks are these major incidents and you have allegations of hundreds of deaths on the ground and people are trying to figure out if this is related to trump's promise to loosen the reins on the war, to give more power to the generals, to central command to fight without restrictions that were perceive beneath obama's policies. >> so now we have a change in this battlefield, a different kind of cooperation. >> right. >> what's in it for russian? >> there's no cooperation for russia, first of all. but what's in it for russia is to watch america have to deal with such what's become such a convoluted crisis on the ground. so the united states is still trying to pair the curds with the turkmens where the arabs. all of them have different claims on different territory and now they're a hand grenade's
throw from the americans so there's buildup to keep the americans engaging anywhere near the russians and to keep the two sides apart while you have an enormous geopolitical battle not just for syria but for who gets to havany kind of foothold in the middle east. >> what does ts mean for the average american sitting back there looking at this and the geopolitics is complicated. what does it mean for the fight against isis? bottom line? >> well, the bottom line, i think, is that trump came to office to end the war sooner, to fight isis quicker, harder, more and more and more and everyone in washington is still waiting for an actual plan. a counterisis plan to come up from the generals to the secretary of defense and white house. we haven't heard that. we've heard more of the same with a little more, meaning all right, now we're on the edge of raqqah and the united states is sending some marines, some new forces but it's not a major increase, it's not no-fly zones we heard about during the campaigns. not 10,000 troops from the 10th mountain division so i think
americans are still waiting to see what new is going to happen that's big, that's tangible or is it going to be a continuation of what obama did, a limited united states military presence that relies on local forces who are then going to have to own the territory that they take after the fighting. >> kevin baron, good to see you in person, thanks for coming out. >> my pleasure. the u.s. conference of mayors met with department of homeland security john kelly this morning and the focus was immigration. i'll talk with los angeles mayor eric garcetti to hear how local governments are adapting to these latest orders from the trump administration. we'll be back live from washington, d.c. will your business be ready when growth presents itself? american express open cards can help you take on a new job,
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. just in the last hour on capitol hill a significant meeting took place behind closed doors between several u.s. mayors and homeland security secretary john kelly. at the heart of the meeting, president trump's immigration policies and the fate of sanctuary cities all this just days after the justice department vowed to cut federal funding to any city or county actively shielding yoechundocum immigrants from the administration's stepped up deportation efforts. los angeles's mayor eric garcetti was in that meeting.
he joins me now. good to see you, mayor, good morning. >> good to see you, too, good morning. >> i guess this is mayors and police chiefs. what were the biggest concerns raised and how did secretary kelly respond? >> it was very strong meeting. a chance for the secretary to hear from america's police chiefs and many mayors, about eight mayors, seven police chiefs who have to protect the streets of this country every single day and who have worked decades to establish trust between our diverse and immigrant communities. so it's a chance to make sure our tax dollars are being spent the right way to make sure to get the dangerous criminals off our streets but to maove forwar in a way that doesn't cause separation of our families. >> let's talk about dangers on the street. your city is a sanctuary city and i want to play what the attorney general said just monday. >> when cities and states refuse to help enforce immigration laws, our nation is less safe.
failure to deport aliens who are convicted of criminal offenses puts whole communities at risk, especially immigrant communities in those, does yours or any other city that stevs as a sanctuary city put other members of your community at risk? >> everyone has a a different definition of what a sanctuary city is. i don't believe in that, no mayor i know do, but if a definition of a sanctuary city is that it is a responsibility of the federal government to enforce laws and not our rank and file officers that have plenty of do combatting homicides, car batteries. we go through the constitutional method to interact with our federal officials. we require a judicial warnlt.
we do 30,000 to 50,000. we're asking i.c.e. to do the same thing. we're abiding by the united states constitution. >> given what we heard from the president, what you heard from the attorney general, that suggested to you, mr. mayor that there could be a meeting of the minds here? >> i would be very concerned, the doj officers need better cooperation abiding by the constitution. the threats just run counter to our constitution. count tore what we believe as americans that families should not be separated, that we should make sure our economy is strong and our streets are safe. we have not heard anything yet, but this was about the beginning
of a relationship so that we can understand when a father is taken from his kids when they're dropped off at school, the effect on other people could be bad. it is good to talk to you. thank you for taking time to talk with us. >> you bet, always a pleasure to be with you, thanks. >> what's next for health care? republicans say they're pushing ahead, determined to revise and repeal balm care. we'll review the options coming up in our daily briefing. it's time for the your business entrepreneur of the week. >> nila got a secret family recipe for hibiscus tea. she says she needs help. we answered her call and now she is getting a "your business"
we are back with our daily briefings this morning. new questions about health care. first the new president mentions it. then there are reports that they are going to start repeal negotiations. we're hearing similar things from the white house. mark murray, good to see you as always, what are you hearing about where we are about the possibility of moving forward with health care reminding people that the day or two before it all went south for the republicans what the president said was "it's friday." the day they pulled the bill, or were moving on. are they moving on or aren't they? >> i'm hearing the same talk that you're hearing. there are conservatives, republicans out there who say hey, we should go back to the drawing board.
you had president trump last night talking about a way to make some type of deal. right now that is all it is. talk. until we see an actual plan, legislation, and a recognition that republicans are going to need new reconciliation protection to pass anything, that a democratic filibuster in the senate wouldn't block, i would just say that it is just taught to really cover from a very, very bad defeat last week on health care. >> hillary clinton came out swinging last night, let's take a look at this. >> when this disastrous bill failed, it was a victory for all americans. these are bad policies that will hurt people and take our country in the wrong direction. >> so you're a poll guy, i've been fascinated watching in the last day or two, the polls on health care, the fact that i think support for obamacare went
up nine points since january. people think it should be expanded so you do wonder where the democrats go with this. even though they think some things need to be repaired on it, there doesn't seem to be a lot of incentive to cooperate in any way. >> when it comes to the polling on the affordable care act or obamacare, democrats like it more now that they're in the minority and out of power in the white house. always some of the polling suggested that democrats who wanted to go even further like bernie sanders, but where democrats go forward, and maybe the only resolution you may have is a concession from the trump white house and capitol hill republicans that we're not going to repeal and replace obamacare, but here are three or four changes that we want. that might get democrat that's are republicans to the table, but there is a big disincentive
for this. i would think that repeal and replace will never happen. so you know, some reality check right there. >> let's do a quick reality check, we're out of time, but if you were a betting man, based on conversations with your folks, what is next? is it tax reform? infrastructure? what will serious i will be nexnex -- serious i will ly be next? >> it will be tax reform. >> huge question, mark murray, always good to have you on. >> thanks. >> thank you for watching this hour of msnbc live. right now, "andrea mitchell reports." >> thank you right now on "a "andrea mitchell reports." president trump says he wants to talk to democrats, but are democrats ready to work with him? >> i think we're going to have some very good relationships.
right, chuck? i see chuck. >> you can run but you can't hide. the house intelligence chairman won't explain what he was doing at the white house. >> can you tell us who signed you in at the white house. >> we're not going to ever talk about any of that. >> adding insult to injury, the daily theater of that white house briefing after the press secretary tried to silence a veteran correspondent april ryan. >> how is the administration trying to revamp their image two months in. you have russia, you have wiretapping, you have -- >> no, we don't have that. you don't get it, i said it from the day i got here to whatever, there is no connection. you have russia. if the president puts russian salad dressing on his salad tonight, that's a russian connection. i appreciate your agenda