27 republicans the president seems to be making political threat against. a quick piece of breaking news. the democratic senator from north dakota now says she is a yes on neil gorsuch. that means there are two democrats in the senate now saying yes. pretty big news there. mtp daily starts right now. if it's thursday, the explosive new report pushes sources out of the shadows. >> tonight following the evidence trail, the white house on the devin nunes situation. >> instead, they were provided through a circuitous route. >> plus, hot water in power. >> this is a swamp, not a hot
tub. st as it hit the boiling point of the until we can't allow 30, 35 peep to hold the republican conference hostage. >> and russia's he northern exposure. seller's remorse. after the sale of alaska. this is "mtp daily" and it starts right now. good evening. welcome to an extraordinarily busy day. we begin with the breaking news from this afternoon, bombshell reporting from "the new york times." it doesn't just further unravel the house probe into the russian interference in the election but it raises more questions that the whether the white house is actively interfering in this investigation. the times is reporting that two white house officials were involved in feeding house intel chairman devin nunes information in what appeared to be an attempt to use his investigation and platform and title to then
brief the president to back up the president's now baseless claims that president obama had him wire attempted during transition. nunes is denying that the source of the information came from inside the white house. perhaps he was just talking about the building and not the white house grounds. anyway, the white house recentlied the press they would look into the matter and the white house suggested today that they did. they just did not want to tell the public about it. >> that you're will to provide us answer. >> no, no. please don't put words in my mouth. i never said i would provide you answers. i said we would look into it. not to make sure that we illegally leak out information to you. >> just to sum up, that's what he said. he just said he would look into it. he never promise ad response publicly. then he pushed back with a
letter to nunes and his democratic counter part adam schiff. the sete guys were cc'd on this letter. they said that the staff discovered the documents in the ordinary course of business. and invites the committee leaders to review what they found. senators burr and warner, the chair and vice chair, were copied on this letter. but it was not addressed to them. it is still unclear if the information refers to what nunes saw last week or not or whether it was coincidentally sent after "the new york times" story broke or if the story even vindicates the president's claims at all. adam schiff held a press conference this afternoon, right after sean spicer's briefing, to respond to the revelations. >> if the staff that discovered theserthe reportedly in the ordinary course of business are the same national security staff that provided them to the
chairman to be provided to the president, it raises the profound question, why they were not directly provided to the white house by the national security staff. and instead through a circuitous route to the cheryl. if that was designed to hide the origin of theers the, that raises questions about just what the white house is doing. >> nunes release ad statement saying he would not confirm or deny speculation about his source's identity and would not respond to speculation about anonymous sources. despite that the house investigation has seemingly ground to a halt, schiff promised it would continue. while the house committee is paralyzed, the senate committee head its first hearing today. they are looking like the only truly bipartisan group left to do this within congress. the chair and vice chair made it clear they're trying to keep that it way. joining me now is a member of that committee, diane feinstein.
the at one time the vice chair and intelligence chair. senator feinstein, i don't know where to begin but let me start with this. if what "the new york times" is reporting is true, does that rise to obstruction of justice? >> i can't comment on that but it rises to a level of protocol in the handling of information. this is not the way it should be done. it could have been transferred from the white house through appropriate channels to the house of representatives intelligence committee and then the member who it was to would probably alert other members and it would be available to them to read with somebody watching you as you read it. classified information there is a whole protocol that goes i know what the handling of it.
to have people from the nsc calling a member to come up solo and receive some information that doesn't go directly to the committee, that goes directly to the president. why didn't nsc just give it to the sfles he i don't quite understand what's happening here. >> can you give an example? go ahead. >> can i? that caught your attention. i don't know whether it is political or whether this was, as i understand it, perhaps a former staffer of devin nunes who made a mistake in doing it this way. but the chairman, devin nunes, ought to clear this up. because it sort of casts a pall over all of us, how and senate and it is be the way it would happen in the senate. this would not have happened. >> it is interesting, you believe this now casts a pall over the senate investigation. >> i didn't say the senate
investigation. what i said was -- >> go ahead. >> it casts a pall over all of us on the committees if this is the way business is done. this is not the way business or information is transferred. >> explain to me how you have ever been briefed on classified information on white house grounds. have you ever, and if you have, can you at least take us through process of how that happened? >> i don't believe i ever have. if there is classified information, we, senator grassley, because we're the oversight judiciary for the justice department, senator grassley and i were briefed on some information. we went down to a skiff in the visitor's center. there are plenty around. and we're ashl to sit and read that information. actually with somebody from the justice department watching us.
so it is handled very carefully. so for those of houston aus who to it, to see inspector clousseau as it was called. >> mostly designed to be more informational. but there were a few surprises in there. what was the most important part of the hearing today in your estimation? >> well, i thought something that the former cyber commander, general keith alexander said. and that is that the remedy for this has to be to bring the public sector and the private sector together. that we are facing a whole new world out there. who would have ever thought that another country to come in and hack into presidential campaigns and have a mission and that
mission was to defeat or diminish one of the candidates. that's a very serious thing. so this, in my view, goes to the top of the temperature chart. i would be hopeful that we could. >> why do you believe the white house isn't acting as if they're as concerned about what russia is doing, period. regardless of the separate allegations of cloogsollusion. the larger story here, that russia has an agenda at upending western democracy. >> well, russia does have an agenda. and this makes it such a big problem. we know the ukraine, we know the french election, the german election, i'm told brexit. so there are a number of areas
in which this influence campaign by russia is being directed. and it is very serious. and i think that the powers that be, i think the nato nations as well as ourselves and the united kingdom have to be able to sit down with russia and put this to an end. because it is going to no good place. >> do you think it's possible to simultaneously secure our defenses on cyber and deal with this in one way and at the same time investigate russia? or do you think there will be a feeling that you have to get through investigation before we start trying figure out how to prevent this happening in the future? >> i've been on the intelligence committee for 16 years now. it is very rare that all the agencies come together with an intelligence assessment that is united. and in this case, they did. and that assessment is made with high confidence.
that russia has done these things. so we now know that this isn't speculation. this is the real world. and the two intelligence services participated, and that the only way that could happen was either at the request of or the approval of president putin. so it makes it very important for the administration to sit down with president putin at some point and effect an agreement where the stops. and it should stop on behalf of all other nations. nations should not be doing this to each other. because it is a highway that you go down. and that highway gets broader and broader and more and more gets taken into it west don't want to wake up some morning and see that our whole airline computer system down. or that as it happened once before, the whole stock exchange is down. >> right. before i let you go, and i know you're not prepared to say what you're going to do on the neil
gorsuch confirmation. what is the bar for filibuster? >> the bar for you for why somebody should not even have their vote brought to the floor. what is your bar on that? >> well, the vote will be there on the floor. filibuster in this sense is a cloture vote. if there is a cloture vote, he would have to have 60 votes. the fact of the matter is that virtually every other nominee since i've been through, this is now my seventh confirmation. has had more than 60 votes. so it is never been a problem before. so we are in new territory and there is broad concern about this candidate. and i tnk that's going to be the discussion on the floor of the united states senate next week. and we'll see where this goes.
>> it sounds like you're leaning in a certain direction. >> that's your interpretation. >> thank you. i'll leave it there. >> wow! okay. it seems as if the white house and devin nunes have a problem here and they don't know how to get out of it. >> it does. a lot of this is just trust at this point. does anybody trust that devin nunes can continue this investigation and get it done? i mean, docrats in his own committee are saying we won't do this nil. it won't happen. does anyone think that he is not influenced by the white house at this point? how do you move on from here? there are people calling for him to step down as committee chair. house speaker paul ryan has said he won't do that. but at what point do you throw in the towel and move to a
special joint committee or something else? >> adam schiff goes to hillary clinton and gets a special briefing on benghazi. and then says, i'll wait until we have it the. what do u thin the outcry would be? >> there's no doubt there would be outcry. there's no doubt this entire situation keeps escalating in more and more ways. that's bad for our country. we need a fair, ill partial strong intelligence community. they need to act within those confines. it is concerning what's going on and the best way to get out is for everybody to wait for the facts to come out to find out what won't with regard to the election, with regard to intel being leaked that was caught, and what impact has on the national security adviser. certainly the situation is not good. >> i found it interesting that senator finestein admitted the house situation casts a paul on everybody.
shs not wrong. i don't think it is separating them. that's congress. >> well, i think that the way the white house and the house have handled this investigation, have cast the entire thing as a sham. yes. but i do think the senate investigation is just getting started. and what we've seen so far is that there are actually two adults in the room who are managing a process, keeping out of politics and trying on get to the bottom of the facts. we need to complete play out. that's just at the beginning. even just today we found pout rubio was also targeted by the russians. >> his face was really striking. wait. i was targeted? >> it shows the depth the russians went to influence every piece of this election. so we need to understand what they were able to influence and what they tried influence to figure out, and then see exactly who was involved or complicit. >> by the way, all this entire
problem for nunes and the white house is all due to one tweet. okay? one tweet that the president sent out of frustration or whatever where he accused president obama of wiretapping him. it has done the following. gotten james comey come out and say it's not true and confirm an investigation. secondly, mess up the entire house investigation and somebody in the white house said go try on prove the president true. >> i do think, i agree with you. it was a really stupid move on his part. it basically invited an independent commission into this. >> that's where this is headed. >> but it was not just one tweet. if it is true, and this is why we should wait and find all the facts. if it is true that there are peel in the intel community who are so horrified about mike flynn being in that that they leaked it. that is also a scandal. so what would be best for the country is if everyone calms down. we wait to find out what the senate intelligence committee
finds out. look at all the facts once it's out there and then pick up the pieces and find out what was true and not. >> let's take a step back. what i was going to say, it is not just about that tweet. there was actual russian interference in this election. that's where this started. if the white house hadn't tried on imfeed investigation at every step of the way, way before that tweet, we wouldn't be in this position. >> that's about wag the dog. oh no, don't look at the potential russian involvement. let's talk about the last administration. president obama wiretapping me. that's what's going on here. >> or just casting the investigation as democrats trying redo the election. which is not the case. it is an adversary trying to impact our democracy. >> it is going into intelligence. you're creating this whole question of what is truth at this moment of fake news and everything else. and it is really, as we boil down to it. what is news, what is truth, so
much is innuendo. >> let me go in another direction. do you think this is just somebody that doesn't want to believe his election was illegitimate? and at the end of the day, that bothers him because he gets so defensive about the specific to the point of, he put himself in this position. >> i'm not going on try to psycho analyze president trump. everybody agrees we should defend our nation. i think if you ask benjamin netanyahu whether he appreciates interference in elections, he would have an answer. the russians have an interest in this and in past elections. let's not pretend the obama administration hasn't played this time of gam with regard to the israeli election. >> for what it's worth, that was pretty public that there were obama supporters for the other side. >> i tried to -- >> i hear what you're saying. >> nobody is defending what the russians did here. everybody wants to defend our critical infrastructure.
let's calm down and wait for the facts on come out. >> let's pause this situation. we'll pick some parts of it up in a minute. coming up here, the president takes shots at members of his own party on the health care bill failure. normally this would have been the lead today. today, something else broke through but we won't ignore it.
welcome back. you just heard my interview with senator diane feinstein. one of the bigger headlines out of it, out of hearing was that the russian interference went beyond the general election and the presidential and distant stop after the presidential race. take a look. >> russia's overt and covert sought to side line opponents
both sides of the political spectrum with adversarial views toward the kremlin. they were in full swing in the political season. long before the field narrowed. senator rubio, in my opinion, you anecdotally suffered from these efforts. >> that cyber security expert later said that all of trump's republican primary opponents were targeted by russians. not the just rubio. and then rubio told the committee, it may still be happening. >> i would like the inform the committee within the last 24 hours, at 10:45 a.m. yesterday, a second attempt was made again against former members of my presidential campaign team who had access to our internal information, again targeted from an ip address from an unknown location in russia. and that effort was also unsuccessful. >> and one of form he ted cruz' important spokespeople and aides tweeted this earlier this
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see how invisalign® treatment can shape your smile up to 50% faster today at invisalign.com welcome back. for all the smoke on russia, in addition to the russian cloud bogging down everything, the white house agenda is a mess and party alliances are dramatically down. today, the president seemingly declared war on his right flank for killing his health care plan, threatening to fight hard liners in the 2018 season. and in a tweet moments ago, the hard liners responded today with open defiance. >> do you think this is a constructive way to do it?
>> it is constructive in fifth grade. >> i don't work for the president. i don't work for the leadership. i work for the people who sent me. >> i don't know who is giving him that counsel but if it is the same counsel that said let's put a bill polling at 17% on the house floor, when the american people are 17% prove, that's not a winner. >> you have to look at the legislation and it doesn't do what they said would it do. that's why only 17% of the population supports this legislation. >> this place is a swamp. not a hot tub. people sent us here. conservatives, republicans that believe in what they campaigned on and donald trump. they sent us here to drain the swamp. >> and that's just the beginning. house speaker paul ryan had a warning for some of those freedom caucus conservatives. the president told you he might strike a deal with democrats. don't let him. >> they're not going to help us repeal obamacare. that's my point. if we're going to do what we said we on do, which is repeal
and replace obamacare and save the american health care system, something tells me the democrats are not going to help us repeal obamacare. they're the ones who made it in the first place. >> senator corker slammed speaker ryan for that approach saying we have come a long way when the speaker of one party urges a president not to work with the other party to solve a problem. so some moderate republican decided to freeze out conservatives. a block of moderate house republicans met last night and decided not to negotiate with the freedom caucus anymore. and then to top it all off, in a move that hardly inspires confidence in the white house' view of its chief of staff reince priebus, he now lost his top deputy. she is moving over to the super pac. i'm join bid somebody who has put the republican party back together in a previous era.
haley barbour. i have to say in the first 70 days in a one party rule in this town, i the didn't expect the wedge to be divide inside the republican party. i expected an attempt by republicans to try to find a wedge inside the democratic party. what's your assessment? >> i've never sustain liberal more giddy and happy. the fact of the matter is i remember when obamacare passed the first time. it took 14 months for the democrats to pass obamacare. and they had super majorities. so i look at the republicans today, we do have a majority of the house. it is a small majority. we have a majority of the senate where normally it takes 60 votes, we have 52. i don't think of that as control but we do have majorities. and it is very disappointing for republicans who know that obamacare has been terrible policy.
has put people on medicaid which is not a great system since so many doctors don't take medicaid patients because reimbursement rates are so low. but 90% of the republicans in the house recognize that while this bill wasn't perfect, it was a big, big, big first step. three steps. to replace with it something responsible that kept people having access to health insurance. 10% didn't want to go along. 10%, when the tail is wagging the dog, you can understand about frustration. i am not the of same mind as some people but i do think our people ought to remember that these guys themselves, they have kept obamacare from being repeeled by the house. >> let me ask you there. going about this, you had the president implying, got to go
after the freedom caucus and democrats in 2018. you had mark sanford saying that nick mulvany pass ad men from the president, you don't want him campaigning for a primary oppone. is this the best way to cajole? over 17 legislative days? or do you wait six months and make more of an effort before you give up on the freedom caucus? >> well, look. my style is different is from other people and that doesn't mean it's right. that's not the way i would have approached it. but paul ryan is right. the democrats are not going to try to help us repeal obamacare and replace with it a reasonable health care policy. and i don't think what you said about senator corker, i don't think he meant as critically as speaker ryan as some people might have taken it. the fact is the democrats aren't going to. they consider themselves
resistance duflt hear today, governor dean of vermont, the form he chairman of the democratic national committee owned your network, said if the republicans get 60 votes and there is no filibuster of judge gorsuch, then we're dead in the next election. because our base won't give us any money unless we filibuster. that's a real reason to filibuster a supreme court nominee. >> the base wagging the dog of both parties, but let me ask you this on health care. you said that, there is not consensus in the republican party that repeal is the way to go. you have a lamar alexander trying to say, skip that language. call it repair ask do get democrats to come in and work with you. why not go about that strategy? especially when you're sitting at 52 democrats in the senate --
52 republicans in the senate. >> i hope we can. i have a great deal of respect. he's been working on this very, very brightly. one thing we should remember, president trump isn't the one that said, let's do health care first. he would have rather gone to infrastructure and tax reform but he was trying to be a good teammate. >> is that the ultimate error? i look at this 70 days in. do you think we're in a different place if he starts with infrastructure and tax reform and says, reneed a task force on health care. get some folks in a room and work on it the next six to nine months while we focus on jobs. >> well, the main thing is, trump would have gone to infrastructure and tax reform first, to be a good team player, did he what the house wanted to do. one thing that i think we need to all remember, you can repeal
obamacare very fast. but you can't replace it successfully fast. it took democrats 14 months to pass it with -- and they had super majorities. 60 in the senate most of the time. and we're trying to do it by reconciliation rules. this is complicated stuff. so will tax reform be. the idea the media has given the american people, if you didn't get this passed in the first two months, what a catastrophe. >> it's the president that says he's glad it is in the rear view mirror. i don't know why y're putting this on the media. the president said he's glad it is in the rear view mirror. >> i'll let your viewers decide how the media has treated this. the fact is, for something that took 14 months to get enacted, and much of it has still not been implemented. a lot of obamacare has never been put into practice yet because it was so messed up.
and 80% of the people who got health care, who didn't have it before, got i by being put on medicaid. not by getting health insurance. so to replace this is not something you can do real fast. maybe republicans should be blamed. we let expectations that we could do it so fast, maybe that was something we shouldn't have done. >> fair enough. haley barbour, thank you so much. this sunday on "meet the press," senate majority leader mitch mcconnell will join me to discuss the state of party. the russia cloud had. that will be next week. north carolina's bathroom bill repeal deal didn't go as well as some might have hoped. but guess what, if everybody is unhappy, does that mean they found the right compromise?
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transgender people had to go to the restroom of their birth certificate. that is gone. i would have wanted a clean repeal of house bill 2. it was clear that couldn't happen. this is best deal that we could get. >> welcome back. this afternoon, the democratic governor roy cooper signed a compromise measure to roll back the state's so-called bathroom bill. the new law is being supported by opponents of old law. but it sailed the through state senate and the general assembly
with bipartisan votes. the old law restricted bathroom use to the agenda per matched yourirth certificate rather than your gender identity. the new law repeas it. it puts bathroom regulations in the hands of the state government. and it prohibits anti-discrimination ordinances through 2020. the compromise was struck as pressure mounted, particularly from the ncaa which threatened to take away sporting events and all the money that comes with them through 2022. and don't think that the acc, chfk, north carolina is the heart of, also wouldn't have followed suit with the ncaa on that. the democratic minority leader that supported the compromise. thank you for coming on the show. >> thank you. happy to be with you. >> do you believe this is behind you or is this just an awkward
pause in this larger debate? >> i think it is clearly behind us with this bathroom bill. one of the the repeal did, it took us back and people will use bathrooms as they've been using bathrooms. we don't have all of these absurd restrictions on how to use bathrooms. but i think it set the stage to have a serious debate on how we place value on people in the state. and it is a debate that's long overdue. and i think that given our experience with house bill two, a lot more people are willing to engage seriously in how we expand rights. and we value all the citizens of our state. >> i want to understand the restikss local municipalities. i understand this means the city of charlotte can't decide, can't do a bathroom ordinance that
they did that protects transgender. does this apply to say, durham wanted to do minimum wage. and do their own minimum wage, as some municipalities want to do. does this also tie hands of a north carolina municipality of doing an ordinance like that? >> no, what house bill two did all of those. it took away the rights of local governments to put conditions in contracts, it took away the rights to decide what the minimum standards would be. and a repeal of house bill two reversed that and returned it to the status where we were prior to the enactment of house bill two. it should add that what did it, it said they cannot enact new ordinances. there are 16 of 17 ordinance that's extended protections more
broadly than the federal definitions of protection, or even the state definitions. those 16 of 17 municipalities or county governments can now enforce their ordinances. they can continue to give the protection to the lgbt community that they have historically given. that'sne of the real gd benefits of repealing house bill two. >> but explain to me the legal argument, why is it that you can gally prevent a munipality? is it because there's an end date? that it is in 2020 that it automatically expires or in 2020 you have to revisit this law? >> if you're going to extend this law, you would have to revisit. and it would be a different climate. a different environment when you revisit. we have a gernor who said he would veto are any measure. you might recall our former governor signed it into law quicker than any bill that has ever been signed into law in this state. >> the reason they signed it,
there's a veto proof majority in your legislature which still exists. the governor could veto anything. that super majority is still sitting out there srgs it not? >> it is but it has changed with regard to the experience of house bill two. at this point, at least in the senate, it would take 21 people to sustain the governor's veto. i'm confident that there are more than 21 people in the north carolina senate now. democrats and republicans who would sustain a veto of any measure similar to house bill two. >> do you expect -- >> the other thing that it does -- >> go ahead. i'm sorry. >> i was going to say, the other thing, there was some dispute over whether local governments had the authority to enact these ordinances that extended protections. one. things this repeal does in house
bill 142, it makes clear that municipalities and local governments have the ability to legislate in that area. since we say that they can do it after december 1, 2020. it removes any serious debate as to what the authorities might be. >> all right. we'll find out in december, too, 2020. >> i hope we find out before then. i hope we find outefore then. it is our challenge to start looking at how we add protections for all the citizens. >> do you expect to revisit this issue before december 1st, 2020? >> oh, sure. in fact, in my caucus, there are several members who have already prepared a bill that would in fact broaden some of the categories where these protections are extended. >> allright. thank you for coming on and congratulations for getting this
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we're talking about this republican infighting. and, mike, you're here because your group got singled out by donald trump in the health care post game. first of all, what'd you make of it? did you think it was going to take you that long to get the ire of president trump? >> well, we're going to call balls and strikes on policy, but the president's clearly frustrated. he should be frustrated because the policy's bad. i thought your interview with hailey barber was fantastic, we shouldn't make the perfect of the enemy in the single process. can you find a single politician who says it is good? the second step for secretary price is allegedly going to roll back these regulations is temporary and there's no chae you're ever going to get a democrat to go along with tearing down the fundamental architecture of obamacare. for seven years obamas promised if we gave them the house, the senate and the white house they would get rid of obamacare driving up premiums, their own bill would continue to drive up
premiums. this is a great opportunity to take a pause to get the policy right. that's what the house freedom caucus is doing. talk about grown-ups, they're the ones saying we want to get policy right, we're willing to negotiate and it's the moderates who says we literally won't pick up the phone if they call. >> stephanie, i assume you want to give your time back to mike. >> yes. >> one of those occasions where an obama white house person. look. let me go to the democrat party. it's interesting here. what is the line -- where -- should the democrats instead of gloating a little bit here be saying, okay, here's our fix bill, and see what kind of a response they get? >> well, i think you need some willing actors on the other side that say -- well, let's see. that hasn't born in truth in the last seven years. and when you say we want to kill obamacare, we want to bleed it to death. we're going to let it spiral out of control. we're going to stop, you know, cut off -- sue because of the
subsidy, it doesn't build a lot of trust of when you start opening that door that they actually want to fix it law rather than repeal it. now, i do think there are a lot of easy bipartisan things that we could do to make that law better. but i think the position on the other side is so strong that they just want to get -- to do away with it. they don't want anything to do with obamacare. it's hard to build a relationship on which you can get actual reforms done. >> the challenge here is that the law is fundamentally unfixable. there's all these regulations driving up costs from washington, d.c. to the entire country. and that's what needs to be gotten at. >> the president isn't that interested i think in keep fighting this. >> no, i think look at this point on the republican side i think honestly it's not about compromise. it's about disruption. that's what the freedom caucus is looking at and they're saying, you know, we win when we disrupt. we win when we challenge president trump and when we challenge the republican comforts in the house. and president trump wins.
honestly look at the polls -- >> number one mischaracterization of the freedom caucus' position. in this bill they are willing to tolerate all sorts of things, state and patient slush funds, willing to accept an obamacare baseline. they're the ones trying to compromise. they have one ask and that's to get rid of the regulatory architecture of obamacare. >> i pause it there. the debate doesn't end, but the show does. thank you, stephanie, mike and jay. we'll be right back. i mean wish i had time to take care of my portfolio, but.. well, what are you doing tomorrow -10am? staff meeting. noon? eating. 3:45? uh, compliance training.
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we could have used another hour, but that's all we have for tonight. we'll be back tomorrow with more "mtp daily," but guess who has another hour? it's "for the record with greta." i know you need another hour too, but 60 minutes is all we have. >> you can't make this stuff up, chuck. we have another bombshell and it's about the white house. there are new questions tonight of possible collusion between house intelligence chairman devin nunes and the trump white house. the "new york times" breaking the news the two white house fwis officials helped give nunes intelligence reports. so who are those white house officials? according to the times, ezra cohen-wa cohen-watnick and michael ellis used to work for chairman nunes on the house intelligence committee. so is chairman nunes talking today finally telling us what happened at his tuesday night rendezvous at the white house? no. silence from him. he's not talking. his spokesperson only saying