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ruhle. >> right now on msnbc, the president. is president trump's first legislative victory already in jeopar jeopardy? the revised house bill faces an uncertain future in the senate. look who the republican plan helps and who it hurts. plus, the new jobs report out this morning showing a spike in hiring, bouncing back from the month before. the unemployment rate now the lowest in over a decade. but one industry is actually losing jobs at an alarming rate. we're talking retail. we'll look at the numbers. and happening right now, former first lady michelle obama making her first public appearance since leaving the white house. she is rallying more than 200 soon to be college students alongside nick cannon, andy cohen and my friend, quest love. good morning. i'm back. steph knanie ruhle in washingto d.c. on this rainy day. we'll begin with what is next
after house republicans give president trump his first big legislative victory, narrowing passing a revised gop plan to repeal and replace obamacare. the measure now facing an uncertain future in the senate. >> insurance company gets to socialize their losses and privatize their gains. those are things i still don't like about the product, but i'm hopeful we can make it better in the senate. >> i do believe we need to reach a conclusion because we promised the american people, and i promised the people of arizona, we would repeal and replace obamacare. >> at the end of the day, i think there will be a senate bill, and then the two bills at some point will have to come together. >> here's what's important, what is actually in that bill. >> let's break it down. it keeps two popular obamacare provisions. children can stay on their parents plan until the age of 26. caps on coverage are still prohibited. one of the big changes, it
scraps obamacare's individual mandate. that means you are no longer required to buy health insurance, and it allows states to opt out of providing essential health benefits, like maternity care and mental health services. also changes the way that people with pre-existing conditions are covered, providing $8 billion, which i'll tell you, it ain't much, in federal funds to lower the cost if states choose to allow insurers to charge more for those conditions. we'll have to dig into that to tell you what it really means. i want to take you first to nbc's mike on capitol hill. when do we expect the senate to focus on this health care bill? we know what an uphill battle is. >> thanks, stephanie. you know, it is an age old frustration between the house and the senate, particularly coming from this side of the capitol where i'm standing. the house of representatives. when things get to the senate, they slow down. >> reporter: -- considerably.
though it took months from the outset of the trump administration, we know the tough road the republicans had, pulling it from the floor at one point, unable to get it on the floor. this would be the third time. things will slow even more. now comes the hard part, it gets to the senate. you played it already, many republican senates in the wake of the vote here yesterday, though the president called it a victory, though there was a celebration with republican house members in the rose garden of the white house, it is really not goingo surve in its current form. that much is clear. a lot of republicans, particularly vulnerable republicans, have walked the political plank here. that's certainly something democrats are count iing on. one of the main provisions is medicaid. many republican states, republican governors, have accepted the expansion of medicaid that was within the obamacare, within the affordable care act. this house bill would severely roll that back. it would reduce the number of people on medicaid and, yes, a lot of republican members of the senate have a problem with that,
as well as defunding planned parenthood for a year. allowing premiums to rise on older americans between the age of 50 and 64. something aarp is very much against. something that is restricted under the current law. and the uninsured, just how many people are going to be losing their insurance as a result of that house bill? that brings up our procedural issue. we don't know the answer to that. it was 24 million in the first house bill. that was very unpopular. republican members heard an ear full from their constituents. but we don't have an evaluation from the congressional budget office. that's up in the air. a lot of questions here. it is going to be months before the senate takes this up, if they have the votes to even take it up, stephanie. >> all right, thanks, mike, on capitol hill. i want to take you no to kelly o'donnell. she joins us live from president trump's golf resort in bedminster, new jersey, where he is spending the weekend. kelly, obviously, i want to talk about health care. before we do, we are learning
that the white house usher is out. i might know where you are, the garden state, but you know washington. the usher of the white house being let go, how big of a deal is this? she's been there for the last few years. i don't know, do they change ushers with every new administration? >> they don't change them with every new administration, steph, but it is a job that is an employee of the white house. the chief usher is responsible for effectively running the executive residence as it's called, the home of the president and his family. angela reid had been the choice of president obama in 2011. she's the first african-american woman to have held that position. there were many butlers and household staff who are still there, work for decades. people i would see when i was covering george w. bush 12 years ago still employed there on the staff level. the chief usher is a management position. a white house can make this choice. it has not been a political choice over time.
sometimes ushers hold that position through president after president. we don't know the circumstances of why angela reid is no longer employed by the white house and if president trump and his team or the first lady have someone in mind. we have not yet been informed of that. but it is an important job in terms of the sort of cultural position of the white house. keeping the first family's home running, social events being a big part of that, when the social secretary and the first ladies office execute things like receptions and state dinners. it is a prominent position. it is one that has a very special place because you tend to know the inner workings of family life inside the white house. so it is something where over the years, there's a bit of -- a bit of the white house lore that goes with those who work inside the white house. so angela reid no longer employed by the white house. the white house confirms to us. we will let you know when we hear about this. little known, yet very important position inside the white house.
not a political job, again, but part of the white house way of life. steph? >> do we have any idea who the president wants to bring in? you say it is not a political job. he doesn't have a history as a politician, but he is a hospitality guy. it mig makeensee wants to bring someone in that he's worked with for years. he has hotels and resorts. that is the business he knows. >> exactly. well, angela reid had worked for the ritz-carlton chain. i think you make a good point, given the fact the president has hotels in his portfolio. there may be someone in line. we don't yet know who that is. we'll be asking those questions to try to find out. but this would be a way where the president could put his own stamp and his own style on the hospitality of the white house and the running of the reside e residence. it is a big operation, as you can imagine. so we'll see what happens. it's interesting in the story of the trump time to see that they will make a change in this position. as we always see, the social secretary, that, of course, is a poli
political appointee and that change has occurred. each white house tries to put its own sort of style on a white house or with things they're interested in. whether it is music tastes, food tastes, decor. some of that will play out, as well. >> i want to talk health care. it comes as no surprise, the president took to twitter this morning, sort of heralding his legislative victory. whether or not you like what is in the bill, it was a victory for president trump to get the gop to get republicans in congress on the same page. >> well, the president wants to emphasize the victory part of the first step of a multi-step process, with the house win. in a way, to try toell it to encoage c and try to the senate to be motivated to act, as well. so after the president's 100-day report card, and there were questions about no legislative victories, this is a partial step toward a legislative victory. we see a lot of sort of championing from the president and republicans from this.
unusual paubecause it is only a house vote in a multi-step process. it is pouring like crazy. the president is likely not to be golfing today. so twitter is available for recreation. steph? >> well, kelly, he can do his second favorite activity. he can watch cable news. president trump, good morning. thank you to nbc's kelly o'connell. i want to stay on health care and bring in a doctor who worked in the obama administration and helped shape the affordable care act, obamacare. she's a practicing physician at johns hopkins center in baltimore and a fellow at the brookings institute, focusing on health policy. good morning, doctor. >> thank you. good morning. >> so many gop members told us yesterday they hadn't actually read the bill. have you read it? >> i have, actually, and all the amendments, including the famous michigan morsel from fred upton himself. >> walk us through. >> right. >> for those people who are panicked, calling their local
lawmaker saying, i'm going to lose my coverage, what do you see here? >> what we see here is a reason for panic because what is true is that people will, especially if they're older or have some of those pre-existing conditions, they might get charged, you know, all the way up to a hundred times more than what they're paying now, depending on what they have. so as you mentioned, there is, you know, the individual mandate gone, but replacing that is actually a rekwiequirement to h continuous coverage. if you miss that, the insurers can cost you more. and states can opt, state by state, to actually eliminate the essential health benefits. that's what really kept all the insurance plans, even which included maternity care and all the things we've been talking about. if they eliminate that, in those states, insurance companies can charge what they want for different conditions. i tell people, this isn't just repealing and replacing the
affordable care act. it is going back to the worst of what health care was before the affordable care act. >> what if this brings all the insurance companies back to the par party? you are looking at some states where you're only faced with one possible insurer. >> right. >> so what's to say the insurers don't come back to play and there is a competitive race that they want to be your insurance provider and actually lower rates? is there a chance that could happen? >> so that's the ideal. i would love to tell you, stephanie, that in some markets, that may happen. i'll tell you, when you look at why people are dropping out of those markets, it's because people are much sicker. to insure them, they will have to charge a lot more money. then these are the very same people that don't have enough income to pay for the insurance. now we're taking away the money to pay for it. this $8 billion that congressman upton added is not enough, if everybody in the country needs that help. so that's really the issue. and i know a lot of people are
wondering what happens to me? i think the most important thing right now to ask is how can we make sure that we allow that time in the senate to actually look at the bill and really understand its implications, like the congressional budget office will do, and like a lot of other experts will do. that will take months. in the meantime, i think it is urgent to call and try to get your congressman to explain to you what's going to happen in this bill. not many can do that. >> doctor, thank you so much. we have to move on. still ahead, the latest jobs report shows the unemployment rate now at a 10-year low. remember, we have had a strong run when it comes to unemployment. steadily going down for the last ten years. i would say eight or so years. really, we're practically at full employment but still so many americans feel forgotten. it is a wage issue. how is that going to get replaced? i want to give you a live look at new york city. i am not there right now. guess who is? michelle obama.
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we've seen in a decade. joining me now is cnbc's senior economics reporter, steve, and the senior editor at the atlantic, who coversconomics and labor markets. steve, before we- i just want to put this in perspective. i know that the white house is running a victory lap around this jobs number. last month, the day the jobs report came out, it was the day after there was the bombing in syria. it wasn't a great number, and the white house didn't feel like talking about it. when president obama was in office, the trump campaign didn't like the jobs number. so you take the good, you take the bad. you take them both. there you have the facts of life. so let's walk through the actual economy, what it looks like, not simply say, man, the president is delivering jobs, because we didn't want to look at the number last month. >> i don't know what their hurry is to take blame or credit for the economy. there will be plenty of time for that, to be appropriately blamed or credited with economic
growth. cheeril clearly, these are early days. i met the hoover institution for their annual conference and not a lot are saying this is the president's policy. there is more confidence right now. stock prices being higher can help. in general, people hire when there are sales coming in the door. they don't hire because their confidence is higher. it is early days yet. these are good numbers. 211,000 jobs, more than the street expected. back on track. there were worries the economy was weakening in the first quarter. bringing the unemployment rate down to 4.4%. good news whenever your political stripes. early days for the president to take credit, or we'd be blaming him now if the numbers were lower. >> let's dissect which numbers did well. earlier in the week when we thought auto sales were slow, we thought, could this be a negative sign? when you look at the breakdown of sectors, what does it look like? >> so it's nice to see things like leisure and hospitality
adding 55,000 jobs. that tells you consumers are out there having fun, using their disposable income. they're hiring in amusement rks and places like that. you have the retail sector, really doing badly coming back a little bit. another sector i'm interested in, you've seen oil prices kind of stabilize a bit. down recently. you had a good devastation in the oil patch in the country. now up again 9,000, three months in a row you've had the mining coming back, as well. government was up a little bit. what we saw is good -- a good cross section of industries. health care up 20,000. broad based. it wasn't one or two or three industries that did it. a lot of industries were behind the strong gain we had. >> i want to focus on retail vote. we saw a slight positive, i guess you could say, in retail by comparison to where we've been. but some are starting to say that retail, as we are seeing store after store, mall after mall close down, that retail worker, the department store
worker, the box store worker, could be the next manufacturing job, that shoe to drop, in the economy. those jobs are going away, and they're not coming back. >> yeah. it is interesting, this month had pretty good job numbers for retail. this is coming after a long period of what's essentially an acute depression in department store retail. there's three reasons for that. the first reason is amazon is doing tremendously. the revenue has been up since 2010. the second is we overbuilt mall space in the last few decades. we have 40% more shopping space per capita than canada. ten times more than germany. people in canada have clothes. they have couches. we don't need all this space. the third reason is you've seen a lot of spending shifting from retail, like clothes, to leisure and hospitality. essentially experiences over materialism. experiences over things. this is a longer trend than just the last few months or years. this is something that's happened since the great recession ended. yove seenhis sort of structuralhift in spending on
materialism to spending on experiences, amusement parks, restaurants and travel. >> technology also sucks the margins out of retail because it is easier for us today to price compare. steve, president trump's america first mantra, mandate, buy here, manufacturing here, it sounds great, but how does that square off with what we're actually doing? when amazon continues to grow at the lengths and strengths it does, is president trump ever going to see this plan that we're going to buy and manufacture here come true? >> you know, so i worry that president trump has a really great plan for america in the 1950s. they talk about bringing back manufacturing and, really, because of technology, you know, what every study has shown is that the jobs we've lost are much more to technology than they are to offshore. there were studies that showed 80% of the manufacturing jobs lost.
another study said 87% were more to technology than competition from overseas. i believe people like wilbur ross in the administration there understand the economy as it exists today. they'll sort of make policy over time that makes sense in regards to that policy. that policy is one that, as you suggest, is driven by technology. by the way, it's driven by the ability of not just a company but a consumer to source his or her needs from all over the world and get the best price and use that money some place else. >> okay. but to your point -- >> the locations -- >> that's the perfect point. that consumer lives in a global economy. our president and sort of the nationalistic vibe that goes with it or him doesn't live in a global economy. >> he'll figure that out. i mean, look what happened hen he said he was going to scrap nafta. the president said he got calls from canada and mexico. i also understand he got more calls from the many
manufacturers. what's happened in the wake of nafta is there is now a north american supply chain. you mess with that at your peril. the idea of scrapping nafta is one that created angry phone calls internally here in the united states because that's the way we run our economy. >> okay. for anyone who is watching, rewind and listen to what steve said again. it wasn't necessarily a call from canada. more likely, a meeting with the new secretary of peru, showing him that electoral college map, saying look at all these farm counties that voted for you. these are where farmers live. you know what they do? they sell their products here and they sell them in canada. and they sell them in mexico. that is a great, great point, steve. steve, derek, thank so much. we're going to take a break. >> thank you. next, a new report says the department of justice opened a criminal investigation into uber for using software to evade authorities. but was it illegal? i'll be speaking to a reporter who broke the story.
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this blowing my mind. i'm stephanie ruhle. delta airlines in damage control this morning following allegations it mistreated a family. the airline is apologizing to a california family who was kicked off a flight after refusing to give up their 2-year-old's seat for someone on standby. a delta employee was caught on camera threatening to have the couple arrested and their children placed in foster care. nbc's tom costello has more from ronald reagan national airport outside of d.c. where i am. tom, what happened here? >> hi, stephanie. good morning. this is the third of the big four airlines to get caught up in one of these videos that goes viral. this one involving a family with toddlers traveling from hawaii to los angeles on the red eye. >> you need to do what's right. i bump a seat and leave us alone. >> visibly upset brian schear, video recorded by his wife,
edited and posted to youtube, telling the agent they bought a ticket for their teenage son but but him on another flight to their toddler could sleep in the car seat on the flight to l.a. agents said they understood what they were doing. >> they let us on the plane, scanned the tickets but when the flight was oversold and passengers were waiting for seats, they told us we had to take our son out of the car seat and they were going to give our seat away. >> reporter: the problem? the toddler's name wasn't on the ticket. when the schears we mo s refusee hi the supervisor threatened them. >> you and your wife kids will be in jail. >> when you're a mother and you have your 1-year-old and 2-year-old and they threaten to take your kids away, it made my heart drop. i was shaking. >> reporter: another delta employee told the schears their 2-year-old couldn't sit in a car seat anyway because the faa doesn't allow it. >> he cannot sit in the car seat. he needs -- that's the purpose.
he has to be in your arms the whole time. >> reporter: that's not true. the faa tells nbc news it encourages small children to sit in car seats because it is safer. and the faa has no age restrictions. but the schears were told the plane would not leave with them on board. >> i got two infants. nowhere to stay. no more flights. what are we supposed to do, sleep in the airport? >> you guys are on your own. >> this is wrong! >> it is the latest in a string of incidents in the last month that went viral, forcing united and american execs to apologize. >> you guys are unbelievable. great customer service. >> now delta is apologizing. in a statement saying, we are sorry for the unfortunate experience our customers had with delta. we've reached out to them to refund their travel and provide additional compensation. >> we asked the schears how much money they received in compensation from delta. they said it was several thousand dollars but they don't feel that was adequate. also, we asked delta, is this an accurate account of what
happen? delta declining to comment but saying simply that they made a mistake in not ensuring that the schear family arrived at their destination the way they should have arrived. they apologized yet again. stephanie, back to you. >> i smell a lawsuit coming. tom costello, thank you. we have another story for you. the popular ride sharing service uber reportedly facing a criminal investigation this morning, citing two sources. reuters reports the justice department launched a probe into the company's use of a secret software tool that it was believed to help drivers evade regulators in markets where uber was not authorized to operate. uber attorneys say the software, known as gray ball, was used, quote, exceedingly sparingly in portland, oregon, before the service was approved here in 2015. joining me now is the reuters reporter who co-authored this exclusive. okay, joseph, have you gotten an official response from uber or the department of justice on
your report? >> no, which isn't all that surprising, given the grand juries are supposed to be secret. uber declined to comment and so did the justice department. >> walk me through how this gray ball software works. we know that in some cities, you've got strong taxi and limousine commissions. was the software legal? >> well, i guess that's one of the things we're going to find out. uber thought it was legal. it had its legal department clear it in the beginning. it was used for other purposes, as well. it was used to protect drivers from threats of physical harm. in some markets, not in this country gerally, local taxi drivers would attack drivers. then there was also competitive issues in some markets. a competitor would order a lot of ubers and cancel them to be disruptive. so this was sort of a broader program than just dodging regulators. it was also used for dodging regulators and that's what is under scrutiny now. >> this is an extraordinary story. if you put into perspective all
the issues that uber is facing right now, it's been a rocky road for them. we'll see what happens. joseph mann, extraordinary story. thank you. >> thanks. michelle obama is at a star-studded event in new york city, about to make her first public speech since leaving the white house. she is fulfilling her plans to keep fighting for america and american education next. [fbi agent] you're a brave man, mr. stevens. your testimony will save lives. mr. stevens? this is your new name. this is your new house. and a perfectly inconspicuous suv. you must become invisible.
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of power. there is no other more popular political figure out there, besides her husband, than michelle obama. andleaving the white house that their initiatives, what they care about wasn't going to end in the white house. it is great she's using her influence to continue to speak on important issues, like education, which is near and close to her heart. >> then what is your take on the criticism that both mrs. obama and barack obama are getting for receiving speaking fees? while she might not be taking a fee today, it's said she'll probably fetch up to $200,000, which is what george bush did, and president obama, we know he is giving a speech for fitzgerald for $400,000. what is your critique? >> they're giving $2 million to help underprivileged kids in chicago. if they're going to take some money from rich people on wall street and give the money to poor kids who need opportunities, i am fine with that. >> do they need to be more selective about who and where they're speaking?
one of the compliments many people give the obamas is their integrity. how they handle themselves, the way they conducted themselves, their relationship, what they stood for. for president obama to make his first speech to a wall street firm, should he be doing something different to set an example for other democrats, or it's a capitalist world, do as he wants is this. >> i think that the obamas are out of office, clearly, and have the right to do what they think is best for them to do. i think that's right. i think they're very focused on the south side of chicago, as you were saying, david. they really want to make sure the summer jobs program, that they really care about starts now and not later, not four years from now, which they discussed earlier this week. i think that's what's important. they're building their library to be a hub in the community and to help the community. so i think they are very much steppi up and using that influee at they have to continue to push important issues. >> i would also add that, to me, president obama's integrity was always about who he is and what
he stands for when it comes to policy. not just which people he speaks to. so he will speak to all sorts of people, just as he did when he was president. >> hold on a second. >> i will hold on a second. who you are is represented by the company you keep. so there is an argument to be made that who you choose to speak to and who you get paid by does matter. president obama himself made that argument or had those criticisms about hillary clinton with all the goldman speeches. >> president obama is not running for office. these are two different situations. >> she wasn't when she spoke to goldman. >> she was kind of. we all knew. >> hold on. you could say, maybe president obama wants to do something. maybe michelle obama does. >> if michelle obama ran for president, it would be legitimate to say, should she have taken the speaking fees back in 2017? when that happens, that's a whole different conversation. i think that right now, what they're doing is saying -- and by the way, i think that the
president is going in front of people, wealthy part-tieople, a saying we asked you to pay more taxes to ensure people who didn't have insurance before. i think he still believes that. i would be shocked if he said anything different. i think that is an important thing. and when we were at the white house, i wrote speeches for the president to deliver in front of executives. we never shied away from that. they were willing to say, we are part of america but we expect you to do your part for america. i would be surprised if his message is any different now that he is a private citizen. >> wn you look at michelle obama's position right now, what can she do? as you said, she is the most, if not one of the most popular and influential faces and voices in the country. we are very divided right now. what can she be doing? she said before, i don't like the pub like elic eye and i don to run for office. do people need michelle? >> it's what she's doing today, she has to continue to do that. i believe she will. there's a lot that can be done that's not in the spotlight of the trump administration.
that's what we're seeing today. when she's talking about college and students continuing their education, not stopping in high school. it's the reach higher initiative she's really talking about. it goes back to that her job is not done. she didn't stop at the white house. she's continuing now outside of the white house. >> i think that's right. i think something that she has understood from the very beginning of her time as first lady, and something that we add funny or die in d.c. do frequently is using the combination of entertainment, television and an important social message. i think she's not just doing the right thing when it comes to encouraging young people to, you know, study hard, go to college, but she's also doing it in a smart way. i think it is an example other public figures can follow. >> she really connects with young people. remember the rap video she did -- >> seeing her dance. >> she's a good dance. >> very good dancer. >> they really take to her, young people, and listen to her. i think that's important. >> she's a better dancer than president obama. >> that is very true.
>> i thinke'd admit that, as well. >> he might be a better basketball player or golfer. i think she's a great dancer. >> she is. >> thank you both so much. i want to watch michelle obama's remarks this morning. and david has a memoir out this summer called "thanks, obama." it is available for pre-order now. still ahead, recovering from a whirlwind week of politics. we've seen laughter, anger, shock and celebration. the highs and the lows in our daily briefing. ♪ fun in art class.
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welcome back. i'm steph knew ruanie ruhle. this is msnbc. we're taking a look at an eventful week in politics. check this out. >> they are gathered together for the white house correspondence' dinner without the president. >> i think he's in pennsylvania because he can't take a joke. >> how do you like me now, huh? >> pre-existing conditions are in the bill. and i mandate it. it has to be? if it would be appropriate for me to meet with him, i would absolutely -- i would be honored to do it. >> the president said yesterday
he would be honored to meet the dictator of north korea. >> this is a dramatic departure from the kind of approach to foreign policy and human rights that i admired ronald reagan so much for. >> so the purpose of our bill is to get more choices, to lower prices while preserving the protections for pre-existing conditions. >> if you want to imagine what a shutdown is, it would be one that fixes this town. >> i was on the way to winning until a combination of jim comey's letter on october 28th and russian wikileaks raised doubts in the minds of people who were inclined to vote for me but got scared off. >> it makes me mildly nauseous to think we might have had some impact on election. honestly, it wouldn't change the decision. >> i'm committed to working with israel and the palestinians to reach an agreement. we will not allow people of faith to be targeted, bullied or
silenced any more. >> the ayes are 217. the nays are 213. the bill has passed. >> make no mistake, this is a repeal and a replace of obamacare. make no mistake about it. >> the trickle down crowd is now having a beer party in the rose garden. >> i know that our friends over in the senate are eager to get to work. >> the senate will carefully review the house bill. >> by law, the senate has to have a score before we vote on something. we will have a score. >> that blows my mind. james comey might be mildly nauseous. i am utterly exhausted. mark is here. can you believe that's the last seven days all of that just happened in the last week. there's a lot to cover. i want to start with health care. tell me, now we're going to go to the senate. your nbc news political team has said three clear challenges the gop is going to face. what are they? >> that's right, stephanie. the three ms.
the first is the mood of the senate. they want a much slower pace. they want to be able to take their time. you have a political environment where president trump's job approval rating is in the low 40%s. there's in the low 30s. there is a move. the second m is the midterm, stefanie. there thare two republicans running for reelection and how they break will be very important. >> how is that an n? isn't it an m? >> yes, the third m. okay, now the third, and the third is the situation with the margin. republicans in the senate have just a 52-48 majority. that is much smaller than we saw on the house of representatives. >> it seems clear it is not going to be the law of the land. was the victory they were celebrating so much that they all got together?
the republicans were sort of backed into a corner had they not passed it people would be pointing the finger saying man, we can't get our house together. it is less about what's on that page? >> i think there was a very good argument they were celebrating. that was their biggest possibility to say look, we got something done, we made a promise to our voters, let's try to do something to turn this into law. there is a path on how it can be law. they played up to the house freedom caucus. now we're going to see the path and the math that is probably making it more moderate. you keep planned parenthood money there. you make sure medicaid is protected, and then you go to conference and you'll get to the dynamic on does the senate end up jamming their bill down to the house of representatives and to the same conservatives, are
they willing to take that. if the senate can get something done that will be the big question in the months ahead. >> so that takes me back to the beginning of the week. he definitely started with a series of bizarre interviews. there was two where he complimented north korea's kim jong un. it is clearly a different strategy, but is there an argument to be made that that strategy could work in some way. >> whether or not it is on health care, or any other topics, he gives multiple responses to many other thing. on one hand he said he was a smart cookie and he would be honored to meet with him. in another interview he said i'm very worried about the situation when it comes to north korea. i think we're still trying to do
our best to find what policy is and the president is giving different answers and interviewed. >> i thought the weirdest was complimented on australia's pm on a better health care system than us, when they have an universal health care system. aren't you in shock of what this week entailed? >> it is every week. not just this week, it has been so news worthy and why the news is so important for us to break down every week. >> without a doubt, but it because make me tired. not just here, but politics abroad. the final day of campaigning is under way right now before the final round of voting in france's heated presidential election. being called one of the most consequential votes in this country's history. we'll talk about that and more when we come back. it is time for the "your
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the pressure is on for france's presidential candidates. today the last full day of campaigning before sunday's run off. macron extended h lead today projecting he will get nearly two thirds of the vote. i want to speak to our correspondent in paris. president obama came out yesterday and endorsed macron.
>> i have admired the campaign that emmanuel macron has run. he put together an important role for france around the world and he is committed to a better future for the french people. he appeals to hopes and not fears. >> how much weight because that carry in france? >> well, obama traditionally had a huge approval rating here in france the in neighborhood of 80%. so i think it does definitely carry some weight, but it is also a interesting remark. this is the first chance that we have seen to stop and roll back the tide of nativism and populism that we have seen betweening the west. with the brexit vote and the election of donald trump in the united states. i'm sure he wants this to be a success for emanuel macron.
>> 15% of voters say they are undecided or will leave their ballot blank. who will be affected the most? >> it could definitely skbut the margin. it is a huge margin, but he will need that kind of massive defeat if he is going to have snuff hoe men tum to go -- momentum. he doesn't have have pretty substantial coalition building there, so it will be hard for him to govern. >> chris, thank you so much. >> and to you out there, thank you for watching this hour of msnbc live. i'm stephanie rule, i'll see you
monday at 9:00 a.m., but right now i'm handing you to andrea mitchell. >> right now on andrea mitchell reports, a victory lap? the bill celebrating a house passage to replace obama care. how am i doing, okay? i'm president, can you believe it, right? how close are they to making it law. >> the senate will review the house bill and we will go to work on a senate bill. >> the fine print, so what is in the bill? >> congressman, have you read the bill, are you concerned about voting on it? >> have you read the health care bill. >> have you had time to read the health care bill. >> have you read this bill. >> we're in a hurry, we'll be back. congressav