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this president will take historic steps 0 keep his promise to rebuild america. promising to replace our crumbling infrastructure with new roads, bridges and tunnels and airports, the actions the president announces today will encourage investment, commerce and most importantly, president trump's action today will enhance the safety and precision of our air travel in the united states. and as i can attest from firsthand experience, having more precise as landings in america is a good thing. so with gratitude for his leadership and vision, and with admiration for his unwavering determination to rebuild america and restore a nation of opportunity and prosperity, it is now my high honor and zing
secretary echao, leader kevin mccarthy, thank you, kevin. chairman bill shuster, thank you very much, bill and all the members of congress who we have many of them here today for joining us as we prepare to enter a great new era in american aviation. it's about time too, i can tell you. but before discussing our plans to modernize air travel, i want to provide an update on our efforts to fix and modernize vital services for our veterans. our great, great veterans who we all love. for decades, the federal government has struggled to accomplish something that should be very, very simple. seamlessly transferring veterans medical records from the defense
department to the veterans groups. and to the va. in recent years, it has taken not just days or weeks but many months for the records to follow the veteran. this has caused massive problems for our veterans. i'm very proud to say that we are finally taking steps to solve the situation once and for all. secretary shulkin announced this morning that the va will announce and modernize its medical records to use the same system as the department of defense. no more complications. the records will now be able to follow the veteran when they leave service, meaning faster, better, and far better quality care.
thank you. thank you. this is one of the biggest wins for our veterans in decades, and i congratulate secretary shulkin for making this very, very important decision. thank you, secretary. appreciate it. i appreciate it. he's done a great job. stand up, secretary. where is secretary shulkin? what a great job. thank you. of course, there is still much work to do but for today's action, shows the determined leadership and what it can accomplish. great, great reform. so again, to david shulkin, thank you to all of our veterans who have served this nation, a very, very special thank you. this is truly wonderful. really monumental reform. so important for our veterans but it's just the beginning.
we're here today to discuss another issue that has gone unsolved for far too long. for too many years, our country has tolerated unacceptable delays at the airport. long wait times on the tarmac, and a slowing of commerce and travel that costs us billions and billions of dollars in lost hours and lost dollars themselves. today, we're proposing to take american air travel into the future finally. finally. all right? finally. a long time. we're proposing reduced wait times, increased route efficiency, and far fewer delays. our plan will get you where you need to go more quickly, more reliably, more affordably and yes, for the first time in a
long time, on time. we will launch this air travel revolution by modernizing the outdated system of air traffic control. it's about time. since the early days of commercial air service, the federal government has owned and operated the united states air traffic control system. yet, more than a half a century later, the government is still using much of the exact same outdated technology. at a time when every passenger has gps technology in their pockets, our air traffic control system still runs on radar and ground-based radio systems that they don't even make anymore. they can't even fix anymore. and many controllers must use
slips of paper to track our thousands and thousands of planes that are up in the air. our air traffic control system was designed when roughly 100,000 people flew at our airports each year. we are now approaching nearly 1 billion passengers annually. the current system cannot keep up. hasn't been able to keep up for many years. it causes flight delays and crippling inefficiencies, costing our economy as much as $25 billion a year in economic -- we live in a mod derp age. yet, our air traffic control system is stuck painfully in the past. the faa has been trying to upgrade our nation's air traffic control system for a long period of years. but after billions and billions
of tax dollars spent and the many years of delays, we're still stuck with an ancient, broken, antiquated, horrible system that doesn't work. other than that, it's quite good. the previous administration spent over $7 billion trying to upgrade the system and totally failed. honestly, they didn't know what the hell they were doing. a total waste of money, $7 biion plus plus. it's time to join the future. that is why i'm proposing new principles to congress for air traffic control reform making flights quicker, safer and more reliable. crucially, these reforms are supported by air traffic controllers themselves. they're the ones that know the systems that they want. they know it better than
anybody. and we have people that don't even call them. in the past. but now we call them. i'm also proud to be joined today by passenger advocates, pilot unions, and leaders of airlines and cargo companies who strongly support our new framework and our bidding process. and we're bidding ideally to one great company. there will be many bids. but one great company that can piece it all together. not many companies all over the united states like in the past. when it came time to piece it together, it didn't work. they were all different systems. we threw away billions and billions of dollars. i am very grateful that every former faa chief and chief operating officers and three former transportation secretaries, jim bernly, elizabeth dole, and mary pierce,
stand with us today. thank you. this is an incredible coalition for change all over the room. it's a coalition for change. the leaders of the industry. at its core, our new plan will dramatically improve america's air traffic control system by turning it over to a self-financing non-profit organization. this new entity will not need taxpayer money. which is very shocking when people hear that. they don't hear that too often. under this new plan, the federal aviation administration will focus firmly on what it does best, safety. a separate non-profit entity would be charged with insuring route efficiency, timely service, and a long awaited reduction in delays. our plan will also maintain
support for rural communities in small airports including airfields used by our air national guard units. great people. and very importantly, air traffic controllers will highly, and this is will be highly valued. these are highly valued people. these are amazing people that know the system so well and under our plan, they will have more financial security, professional opportunity, and far superior equipment, the best equipment anywhere in the world. they'll never be anything like what we're doing and other systems are very good. i won't tell you the names of the country. but we have studied numerous countries, one in particular. they have a very, very good system. ours is going to top it by a lot. our incredible air traffic controllers keep us safe every day even though they are forced to use there badly outdated
system. that is why we want to give them access to capital markets and investors so they can obtain the best newest and safest technology available. and by the way, the new technology and i've seen it, is incredible. if we adopt these changes, americans can look forward to cheaper, faster and safer travel. a future where 20% of a ticket price doesn't go to the government. and where you don't have to sit on a tarmac or circle for hours and hours over an airport which is very dangerous also before you land. dozens of countries have already made similar changes with terrific results. and we're going to top them actually by a long shot. canada is an example modernized their air traffic control through a nongovernment organization about 20 years ago. and they have cut costs significantly. adopted cutting edge technology,
and handled 50% more traffic, and actually far more than that on a relative basis compared to us. a modern air traffic control system will make life better for all americans who travel, ship, or fly. it will reduce costs and increase convenience for every american consumer, and these new efficiencies will produce a huge economic boost for the country and for the one in 14 american jobs that aviation supports. today, we are taking the first important step to clearing e runway for more jobs, lower prices, and much, much, much better transportation. america is the nation that pioneered air travel. and with these reforms, we can once again lead the way far into
the future. our nation will move faster, fly higher, and soar proudly toward the next great chapter of american aviation. thank you, god bless you. god bless the united states of america. thank you. thank you very much. thank you. >> as the president signs his order surrounded by elizabeth dole and other former transportation secretaries he is proposing something that does have some bipartisan support which is privatizing the faa and air traffic control. this the launch of infrastructure week which is notably coinciding with what many people are calling comey week. nbc national correspondent peter alexander at the white house. peter, the president missteps
which we can discuss on london, on his tweets, going off message, defying what white house officials said he was going to do, this was carefully scripted in the east room and something that would appeal to a lot of consumer who have been, of course, at the beginning of the summer travel season concerned about delays and air traffic problems around the country. >> yeah, andrea, i think you're exactly right. this is the way that the white house wanted this week, this infrastructure week to go. he's going to be making a speech on wednesday. it's going to be the focus over the course of the next several days. the president sticking to the teleprompter script as he spoke about this talking about the problems that existed under the past administration, ad libbing when he used the word saying horrible how horrible it was the way they handled it the in in the past. the challenge for this administration and his aides is this sort of personal feud he has taken up again on twitter. this morning with sadiq kahn, the mayor of london and his comments about the travel ban
seemingly lashing out at his own administration, the justice departments saying in effect they should take up the original travel ban as they pursue that case forward to the supreme court, not the more politically correct version as he describes it as is the case they are pursuing at this time. this is a moment the white house thinks they can focus on. it checks a box in terms of something he wants to be focused on. be clear, what really was discussed is a blueprint. we're a long way off from anything being more formalized. obviously there is the republican representative in congress, bill shuster ho brought this up in the past. so this was in effect low hanging fruit for this administration. the legislation in effect had been crafted in the past. but for them to go forward on broader issues of infrastructure, from bridges and roads and issues beyond that, they still have some work to do. >> thank you so much, peter alexander. as we see the president making his way through the crowd. let's turn now to the latest
from london. this dramatic new video showing police confronting and within minutes killing the three suspected killers saturday night after they rammed their van into pedestrians on london bridge. we'll have that video for you in a moment. they went on a knife rampage killing seven. british media reporting one of the attackers is a man filmed in a channel 4 documentary seen with an i.c.e. flag in that documentary in a park last year confronting police. isis claiming responsibility for that attack. meanwhile, new raids, new searches overnight as police try to determine if there is a wider linking this attacking with manchester and the winchester attack. we're learning an american bystander was struck in the head by a stray bullet saturday night. joining me now is nbc's chief global correspondent bill neely in london. you just saw him a moment ago. bill, recap what we know so far about the investigation of this terror attack. >> yeah, police, andrea, calling
this a fast-moving investigation. just a few minutes ago, there were police forensic officers on street behind me. they are still questioning 11 people, seven women, four men. they are searching six properties and as you say, there were more raids and more searches this morning. the problem for the police is that as the ira once said, you have to be lucky every time. we only have to be lucky once. trying to stop another attack, another copycat killing is going to be very difficult. this is the twin strategy that the police have got to adopt here on the streets of london this morning. an attempt to deter and also an effort to try and work out did they know these men beforehand? were they part of a group that they were monitoring in east london for the last few months? and if these men were part of that group, people are asking, why didn't the police step in and act earlier.
but the other issue that's going on here is, of course, donald trump's intervention into this very, very sensitive situation here, andrea. >> and we wanted to also show you that video of the raid, bill neely, the moments when the police were actually getting those suspects, those suspects trailing them and shooting them, moments later, they were killed. we now know that one american was seriously injured with a gunshot from police into his head. he had been sheltering in place inside one of the bars or pubs in that neighborhood. as we watch this. there's also the twitter war between the president of the united states and sadiq kahn, the yor o london with the president taking the mayor's comments completely out of context. i think we have a response from the mayor of london today if we can play that.
>> saturday night, my focus has been working closely with the police, with the emergency services and with the government to deal with the horrific attack on saturday. i haven't got time to respond to uninformed tweets from the president of the united states of america. >> and the president tweeting with information that was not fact checked by his staff that came apparently off of drudge and taking what the mayor said completely out of context. he was saying we're putting more police on the streets. therefore, you should not be concerned that that's the reason for the increased police presence and the president of course, saying, you should not be concerned was the entire message from the mayor of london. bill, how is this going down? we're only days away from an election, election of the prime minister. parliamentary election which will result in a decision between teresa may being retained as prime minister or not. >> reporter: it's going
downstreamly badly, andrea. part of the spirit of defiance on the streets of london is just not just defiance of the bomber who's did what they did on saturday night but now defiance of president trump because his tweets have been con demds by politicians from all parties. late not forget, in the last tweet, president trump called the muslim mayor ofonn thetic. that's in stark contrast to the messages that britain has been getting, for example, from the french president emmanuel macron saying we are with you now more than ever. and indeed, britain's prime minister teresa may, has rallied to sadiq kahn's defense. remember sadiq kahn is actually from the opposing labor party. as you say, there's an election on thursday. but teresa may said just a short while ago, sadiq kahn is doing a good job, and it's wrong to say anything else. that is a direct rebuke from britain's prime minister to america's president. andrea. >> thank you so much, bill
neely. joining me by phone is michael leiter, the former director of the national counter-terrorism center and nbc national security analyst. michael, first of all, teresa may in her comments this weekend talking about the cyber world and how cyber companies have to be more pro active in trying to stop these threats from being communicated. how realistic is that? >> andrea, it's going to be difficult. i think it's also quite central to the fight that we and the brits are in. as we talked about so many times, isis is not al qaeda and one of the distinguishing features of terrorist attacks we've seen are how quickly people have been radicalized online, how much communication is occurring. and we have in the united states over the past couple of years had some bipartisan efforts to require online companies, google, facebook and other internet service providers to do more with the counter-terrorism community. the british have been even more
engaged on that front with some requirements passed last year. so i think this is going to be one of the biggest stories coming out of this. it's prime minister may's belief that physical safe havens are important but online safe havens are sort of dominating in this stage of counter-terrorism. and that's going to require us to relook at things, of course, the u.s. first amendment may make it much more difficult but she wants this to be an international effort. >> now, manchester was different but in these other attacks, the attacks at westminster and here at the london bridge and in the marketplace, they were low tech vehicular and knife attacks. they didn't involve guns or bombs. so is this -- how much is cyber involved given that this is ramadan and that there is a well-known appeal from isis and other terror groups go out and use whatever weapons you have? >> well, i think cyber involved in at least one way and potentially a second. the first is simply the
radicalizaon a motivation of attaers like these. and that is a real problem. the second, which we don't know -- and more likely to to have occurred in manchester is communication between or amongst terrorists and that is to be encrypted. it's even a harder nut to crack in my view but also one that , t makes it very hard. i think that's some of the frustration that you heard prime minister may. i also expect that there will be renewed debate within the united kingdom for some other physical preventive measures that they've had in the past. sort of bringing back the control orders that the british use between 2005 and 2011 and some pretrial -- precharged attention. so i think the british legal
landscape is likely to move much faster than what we're used to in the u.s. counter-terrorism community. >> michael leiter, thanks so much. wendy sherman who served as undersecretary of state for political affairs at the state department for secretaries kerry and clinton and joins me now. good to see you again. this is a real crisis for great britain at a time of an election. so you've got a confluence of the political and the counter terror. we all know how unpredictable. we saw in spain how unpredictable reactions are after an incident. >> this election was getting closer over the last few weeks even before this terror incident. remember teresa may had been the home secretary and had responsibility for homeland protection beforehand. >> the equivalent of our secretary of homeland security. >> absolutely. she's coming under some some fire. what's really critical here and michael pointed to it and bill did, as well, we have to get to the communities here and work at the community level to understand what's going on. it'sot only a cyber effort
that we need, whiche certainly do, but it's also a community effort. when our president takes on the mayor of london who is a muslim, we are undermining the exact kind of personal relationships that need to be built to solve this problem, to create norms of behavior that say that this is not tolerated. this is not something we should do. >> and in fact, in contrast to the u.s., our experience here since 9/11 and in fact before 9/11 but certainly since 9/11 is that communities have come together, muslim communities have come together with law enforcement in important ways that george w. bush built on this and his administration, certainly the obama team and jeh johnson's last speech was to the muslim community in chicago, to a national coalition of muslim leaders saying that in places like minneapolis and newark and detroit and elsewhere, these communities have to come
together. mosques and their leaders have to say when they see something untoward. and that has worked here in the u.s. assimilation has worked. >> it has worked better here. it doesn't mean we won't face some lone wolf attacks. as you noted these are low tech and there's a call for this. in the muslim community and the world, there are issues we have to deal with. the president going it alone does not help. yes, he had a meeting in saudi arabia of many leaders of muslim majority countries. but we've seen in the aftermath of that that community is coming apart as we've seen today when bahrain and egypt and saudi arabia have pushed back against qatar and said they're no longer part of the coalition because they are undermining the efforts against terror. >> seemingly blind siding the administration after the riyadh summit. >> indeed. it doesn't look like the president made the progress he thought he might have in riyadh. this is not a one-time effort but an effort that needs to be
undertaken and very hard to undertake it when we've got 56 ambassadors still not named by the trump administration. we don't have people at the state department, people at the pentagon or treasury to really undertake the worldwide effort that's needed here. >> one quick question about north korea. i'm now reading that according to "usa today," that russian our so-called new relationship, you know, all that that entails, russia has increased its exports, coal and other economic support to north korea by 73% in the first two months of this year alone. and this as we're pressing china to decrease its support propping up that regime as it becomes more military taistic with its missile and nuclear testing. > i think we have to pay very close attention to this. it's of great concern while we're trying to get china on board. secretary tillerson and secretary mattis in australia today for the two plus two meeting of defense and foreign
secretaries have called upon china to do more. mattis did at the shangri-la conference but russia has to change its behavior. we're not so good at getting russia to change their behavior these days because the president clearly has quite an ambivalent relationship to russia. as we saw in megyn kelly's interview with president putin, president putin says he has nothing to do with anything. >> we'll talk morgue about that right after the break. thank you so much for helping us kick it off. in manchester last night, a show of courage and defiance in the city still recovering from its own recent tragedy. ♪ somewhere over the rainbow >> just 13 days after the suicide attack outside her concert, ariana grande and a star-studded lineup including coldplay, justin bieber, miley cyrus and others all performing for 50,000 fans in a stadium.
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there is a theory that are kennedy's assassination was arranged by the united states intelligence services. so if this theory is correct and that can't be ruled out, then what could be easier in this day and age than using all the technical means at the disposal of the interrogation services and using those means to organize some attacks and then pointing the finger at russia. >> spy games former kgb agent vladimir putin trying to undermine the cia's conclusion that russia hacked our election
by reviving decades old oliver stone conspiracy theories about the kennedy assassination. michael mcfaul joins me now. as a veteran putin watcher your take away to his answers to megyn kelly in this extraordinary interview. >> for years, i witnessed president putin talk about these kinds of conspiracy theories, this is extraordinary power that he assigns to the cia, the dark power. i'm glad that the american viewers got to see it. he accused the cia of killing president kennedy. and he basically accused the cia of hacking into the dnc and disrupting our elections. extraordinary. but consistent with a theory that he's had about american power and the so-called deep state for many, many years now. >> one of the issues that is obviously of concern is whether
there are people in the white house, including the president of the united states, who subscribe to his theories. how else do we explain the lack of pressure on putin, the conversation about lifting sanctions against russia, returning their diplomatic/intelligence compounds in maryland and new york, despite the fact that they have not yet paid any price for the hacking nor for what's happened in ukraine? >> well, i think the president still believes that he has a chance to get along with putin. and to do great deals together with the president of russia and therefore, despite every single other member of his cabinet in the national security team that disagrees with him, he is still keeping open the idea that maybe we can get along with vladimir putin and is prepared to do some pretty extraordinary concessions like lifting sanctions without getting anything in return just
to fulfill that idea of trying to have a better relationship with russia. >> now, i also wanted to ask you about some exclusive reporting from susan glasser in politico who is reporting beyond what we knew during the president's trip to nato that he had -- there were briefings that he was going to reaffirm his commitment to so-called article 5 and didn't in the speech. now it seems from her reporting there was a text that was approved by mcmaster, by tillerson, by all of the national security team that he didn't read. that he had somehow a different text for his big nato speech, the one that so offended the nato allies. your take away on that? >> well, if it's true, it's absolutely extraordinary. it's a failure of the national security team. it's a failure of the national security adviser who ultimately should be the one that adjudicates and puts before the president the final draft of that speech. and if the president himself took it out, then that's even
more disturbing to me because that suggests that this all-star national security team, and i know several of them. they are very competent people, but if they can't even get that minimal text oious text into a presidential speech in nato, how do and why should we expect them to succeed on the harder foreign policy issues when they debate the president's about more difficult issues. so i was really taken aback by that reporting today. >> michael mcfaul, thank you so much for your expertise. coming up, doubling down. president trump using the london attack to push for an even tougher travel ban. we'll talk to republican congressman peter king for a reality check. coming up next. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. ady or not, h. ♪
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that's the issue that the supreme court will have to decide. >> he's not saying it's a muslim ban. he's saying it's a travel ban. i think it's absolutely essential. i don't think the muslim issue comes into it at all. you're talking about six countries which are terrorist infested. and have been and five of those countries they have no functioning at all. the fact that 75% of the muslims in the country in the world live in countries that are not covered by the travel ban. so these are the countries where the enemy is in large numbers and there's a dysfunctional government and to me it takes sense to have a 90-day pause or 120-day however long it takes to work out better systems of vetting. > most of the recent attacks if not all of them came from homegrown lone wolves radicalized by online communications. >> yeah, but again, this is a multipronged war. and we're going to have certainly we have to be concerned about terrorists coming into the country.
because of the fact that the mideast is such a cauldron right now and you have people going from countries to countries fighting alongside isis. we do have people nech communities and neighborhoods. this is a multipronged war. it's a cyber war. the travel ban to me or the travel pause which is what it really is because it's not intended to beer. the, that extra vetting is an extra weapon in our arsenal. >> i want to ask you as a member of the intelligence community you know so well the close connection between british intelligence and our intelligence. what about the fact the president took out of context what the mayor of london said and tweeted what is really offending people in the uk in the middle of their response tons a terror attack. >> well, first of all, as far as british intelligence, they're the ultimate pragmatists. i would say the brits and israelis are the closest we work with on intelligence and they're not going to let hard feelings
gets in the way of them sharing intelligence with us, us sharing intelligence with them. this is a really hand and glove type of relationship. we realize there's bigger stakes here and that's the islamist terrorists coming after us both in britain and around the world. my experience ever since 9/11 in dealing with this issue, no one is closer to us or cooperates more than the british. whatever is said back and forth, that's not going to affect our relationship at all. >> i want to also ask you about the intelligence share devin nunes who according to "the washington post" himself asked for unmasking of the identities of officials from the intelligence community to be shared with your committee. given the fact that he has gone after obama officials for doing what arguably there's supposed to do under their -- under the mandate of their office to unmask people when they need to know the names, but was it appropriate for him to do the same as committee chair? >> i think the intelligence
committee, again, i'm on the committee but the intelligence committee certainly we're going to investigate whether or not the obama administration acted improperly as far as surveilling people or getting into improper unmasking. i think the only way we can find out is to find out who was unmasked, who did it and how the process worked. otherwise they're no way we can find what happened if we didn't have access to the information. >> that's not just a white house distraction to try to take away from the larger issue of russian hacking and whether there was any collusion, something that devin nunes has had to recuse himself from. >> zpars collusion, i'm not away of any at all whatsoever. so far, this is a nonstory. i want it investigated fully. nothing significant at all has emerged. there may be something out there that's going to come up. up till now it's been zero. as far as hacking, i have no doubt the russians did hack. my conclusion is that they were hacking, they went in originally
with the intention of disrupting the election completely and again without regard to either side as it got closer to election day it, appears they did intend to defeat hillary clinton even though they probably knew she wouldn't be defeated. they wanted to muddy her up so if she were elected president, she would be able to hurt her. putin can say whatever he wants. i don't listen to what he says. i don't put any stock into it at all. i'm not pro-putin. i don't trust him at all. i do believe the russians did hack in the election. they hacked through the you. in the beginning they just wanted to disrupt it. as it goss closer to election day this he thought they could hurt hillary more than they could donald trump. >> thank you very much, congressman peter king. coming up, the tweetner chief, more on the fallout from the president's twitter tirade after the london attacks. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. be the you who shows up in that dress. who hugs a friend.
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joining me now is charlie sykes, msnbc contributor. and jennifer palmeri, former communications director for hillary clinton's campaign. welcome both. to you, charlie. first of all, all of these tweets since last night and then again today about london, going after the mayor of london. in striking contrast to all of our other allies supporting the resilience of the brits. >> you know, crisis reveals character, but apparently twitter reveals it more quickly and more clearly. and we really got a vision, a picture of the president's instinct, his visceral instinct. over the last 24 hours, there may be adults in the room in this administration, but he's not necessarily listening to them. apparently does want to use twitter. now, kellyanne conway's position is ridiculous, because she wants it both ways. the administration wants to communicate directly to the
public using twitter. by the way, these are official presidential proclamations at this point. this is a view into the president's mind. but then they don't want to be held accountable for it. he needs to be held accountable for what he's doing internationally and the way he kneecaped his own attorneys on the travel ban. >> he didn't say muslim travel ban, so peter king just made that point, he said travel ban. the inference has to be muslim travel ban, because that's the context the travel ban has always been described. >> i felt there was something -- i think people didn't pick up on what kellyanne conway said. i think the white house staff is frustrating with m. she's really sayin don't pay attention to the tweets but pay attention to what we the staff say. pay attention to when mcmaster and mattis embrace the nato alliance. but his tweets, you know, the -- what i found interesting about the travel ban tweets is, he's
tweeting as if he's an observer. he's not tweeting as if he's president of the united states. he doesn't even use the president of the united states twitter account. and he's tweeting not even like a presidential candidate, but the way he did prior to even being a presidential candidate, which is sort of on erving. he said the doj should do this, as if it's not under his control. but he seems to be very disconnected from where the rest of his staff, but he is the president. what he tweets matters more than what any staff person says. >> charlie? >> yes, exactly that's right. this whole notion that don't pay any attention to what the president of the united states himself is saying, listen to us. well, look, it's very obvious that he's prepared to blind side his own staff, his own national security staff in giving major speeches about nato. you were talking about this politico story which was stunning and amazing on so many different levels. so the problem is here that what are you going to believe, your
own eyes, what the president is saying, how he is defining the administration strategy, or are you going to listen to the flunkies who are trying to clean up? >> and let me just return to something that happened last week, what we've been talking about, which is the paris speech in the rose garden. factually incorrect, push back by al gore, john kerry and other people. but people in ohio, pennsylvania, are responding to that. so politically, jen, he is perhaps having an impact. >> i sure his supporters appreciate his paris speech and support him on a muslim ban. but he's president of the united states. and i think that -- obviously on our side, on the left, there are more and more people paying attention and protesting him. but to help them with their own politics, the president of the united states, that's what he's been reduced to. >> we're going to have to leave
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and twitter. chris jansing takes over next. >> thank you. good afternoon from msnbc headquarters in new york i'm chrisanng in for craig melvin. and we start this hour with two big events. on the left, you're seeing a vigil starting in london's potter's field park for the victims of saturday's terror attack, led by mayor sadiq khan. on the right, sarah huckabee sanders will have to answer questions about president trump trying to push an infrastructure message. undercutting that message with repeated attacks on the muslim mayor of london. over the weekend, the president appeared to take comments by the mayor out of context. but today, he didn't back down -- >> nbc reports on both sides of the atlantic. kristenr