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hallie. i apologize for creeping in on your hour. see you in 60 minutes. no worries. for the next 60 minutes. hello from the white house where leaks and legislation dominate the day. federal contractor under arrest charged with leaking the top secret nsa document. what we know about her and the hi highly classified administration report. at the west wing. watch for gop leaders to show up later today, turning up the heat on the summer too list they have to work fast. 18 legislative days between now d labor day. our justice and political teams are here. pete williams. krist kristen welker. kasie hunt on the hill. catherine lucy and msnbc political analyst and chief white house correspondent for the "new york times," peter baker. welcome to you all. pete, first to you. there are two parts to this nsa story, one is the arrest of the leaker, the contractor. and then two, the document
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itself, right, what it tells us about russia's interference in the election. break it down for us. >> let me do the second part. that's the easier part. it doesn't tell us a lot. it gives us technical details about some of the ways the russians were trying to get into what we knew they'd done which is try to get into some voter registration databases. still no indication that the russians did anything to affect the actual vote outcome. look at the black parts. this is the way the intercept website published this document and what the government and the intercept say is that, after getting the document mailed to them anonymously the intercept contacted the national security agency and said we're going to do a story and the nsa said please redact certain parts of the document. we wish you wouldn't do it at all but if you're going to redact those things. that is where the black bars came from. that's one way the government found out it had been leaked. they knew about it secondly because according to the government a reporter for the intercept -- this thing just came in the mail and was trying
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to verify that it was real. took a picture of the document with a cellphone and e-mailed it to a former government contractor, who in turn told the nsa that somebody was leaking this document. they realized from the picture that was sent to them that it had been printed out. they say they determined that only six people who had access to this document actually printed it. and then checking e-ml records fod that only one of them had been an e-mail contact with the tercept. they arrested this woman. her name is reality li winter. she is 25 from augusta, georgia, she works for a contractor that does work for the nsa. they arrested her on saturday. interesting timing yesterday, hallie. within an hour after the intercept published the story about this, the justice department announced that this woman was arrested. the government says, after being arrested she admitted sending this document to the intercept. >> pete williams.
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kristen welker. look at this from the administration's perspective. first arrest of somebody leaking classified material. the president has talked about this a lot before in general, the idea of trying to plug up the leaks. >> right. we know the president has sent the message internally that he is serious about that. he wants there to be a crackdown on leaks, hallie. it's a message, as you point out, that he sent publicly as well. take a look at some of his past tweets that he sent out in the wake of some of these leaks particularly about russia. the real story, surveillance and leakers. find the leakers. february 24th, the fbi is totally unable to stop the national security leakers who have permeated our government for a long time. they can't even. the spotlight has finally been put on the low-life leakers. they will be caught. this is something he's been
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talking about. sort of a counter programming if you will to some of the damaging leaks about russia. but of course the leaks are how we know about national security adviser michael flynn and his conversations with russia's ambassador over sanctions. he is not the only president to be plagued by leaks. former president obama spoke frequently about leaks as well. that's, of course, how we know about edward snowden and the nsa's activities. this is something that's plagued past white houses. but it is something that this administration has really tried to put a focus on and to turn up the heat on, hallie. >> kristen welker down the driveway from us here on the north lawn. thank you. peter, you've been around the block. do you think the obama administration would have also prosecuted the leaker andera charged this person? >> for sure. the obama administration charged more people with leaking than any administration before. in fact more than all administrations combined. the obama team certainly took leaking very seriously. that was something journalists
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were very concerned about. sometimes they put pressure on journalists about their sources. this is a continuation of what we saw. you hear differently among this white house and from this president, it's a more insistent and persistent condemnation of it. the president does, as kristen said, make a big point of this. it was one of the factors he cited in firing fbi director james comey, that he hadn't done enough to counter leaks. >> it's used often as a pivot point. when the questiocomes upith the russia investigation. it's not jt here at the white house but on the hill too. republicans pointing to the leaks themselves as a problem. with this news, no sign that that would abate. >> exactly right. it's not just that this is a white house that is continuing a practice of being tough on leakers but that they're actively trying to move attention away from the ongoing investigations, the various probes into activities with russia, and on to leakers being the problem. >> so we're talking about leaks. that's one big headline at the white house today. of course the other is
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legislation. and what you are talking about, catherine, the ongoing probes, investigations, the other news happening on the hill that seems to be jamming up a little bit of what the president wants to do priority-wise with republicans in congress. kasie hunt is on capitol hill. we know paul ryan is coming over, mitch mcconnell to the white house today. the president tweeting this morning, tax cuts and health care is what they'll talk about. we know health care is one of the things they'll drill down on. new reporting on what's happening over at the capitol today. give us a reality check. how likely is it that any of this will happen before lawmakers hit summer break? >> even the legislative directors acknowledging that what's going on with james comey and all things russia are, quite frankly, getting in the way of moving this legislative agenda. this seems to be one of those days where the president wants to be talking about something else so they are going to try to focus on what they say is their time line for passing these
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major pieces of legislation. now, we have been having what feels like the same conversation about these big priorities basically since january when you and i were starting out covering the congress and this new administration. they still are trying to do health care. they still are trying to do tax reform. they still are trying to do infrastructure. and none of it has really gone anywhere. mitch mcconnell, congressional aides are saying will try to push the health care bill forward, potentially as soon as july 4th. that's when congress goes on its next recess. and the topic that we have really turned to for today is, in particular, tax reform. there will be a meeting up here on capitol hill. among the key players and treasury secretary, members of the administration, that's going to take place in mitch mcconnell's office later on this afternoon, of course, the leadership will be at the white house. that's mitch mcconnell, paul ryan. but, again, mark short, the legislative director briefing reporters yesterday, put a slightly longer time line on tax
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reform than what congressional leaders wanted. they wanted to do it in the summer. short says now in the fall. the infrastructure bill they're suggesting they might try to do without democratic votes. that suggests that things are in a dire place right now, hallie. >> can we talk about wins for a second? mitch mcconnell can say the senate confirmed gorsuch. and paul ryan can say there was some movement on health care. one in five months roughly. how does the number seem to you? is that about right at this point in prior congressional periods? >> if you compare it to the first -- the start for new administrations past, and i'll refer back to president obama because that's, frankly, what i am more familiar with having covered some of that when he first came in. they were much further down the line on passing. granted, they were dealing with a lot in the way of crisis governance, if you will. so they had the stimulus package. they were farther along on kind of figuring out a health care bill that they ultimately did get through.
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now, they had the advantage of having 60 votes in the senate. so it's a little bit different. but there are other areas you can point to. nominations. democrats have played their part in grinding the nomination process to a halt but the trump administration has sent far fewer nominees in key categories up to capitol hill in the first place. so i think it's pretty clear that the gears are grinding very slowly right now. in what was supposed to be this kind of breakthrough era of all republican control. >> no kidding. kasie hunt on the hill watching the gears grind slowly, as you put it. thank you much. even the white house acknowledging the jams have to do with the investigations. the president's sons in a new interview this morning seeming pretty dismissive. >> the greatest hoax of all time. i was there throughout the campaign. we have no dealings in russia. we have no projectsn russia. we had nothing to do with russia. >> i mean, to me, it's without a
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question, you know, reads and smells like a witch hunt. >> catherine, your reaction to this, the idea that, as the trump sons are saying it's a witch hunt or a hoax. does it give us insight into how the family seems to be thinking? >> they're echoing what the president has been saying. what the white house has been saying. there is no there there. people should move on. but there are active investigations going on that will determine ifitat that's th case or not. it's not clear yet. they want to move on and do other things. they'd like to talk about other stuff. that's not going to happen for the foreseeable future. >> when the story line doesn't move on, when we're talking about russia, it seems like the president gets annoyed or flares up about his attorney general jeff sessions. you have a new piece out in the "new york times." the now fragile relationship between the president and his a.g. somebody who has been in his corner for a long time. what's going on? >> he was one of the earliest
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supporters of donald trump. he got a pretty good job, right, attorney general. you saw with the tweets yesterday on the travel ban a hint of the underlying frustration, which is why did the justice department water down the travel ban. the president actually signed it but he is frustrated with the juice departnt and with his attorney general. it goes back to jeff sessions' decision to recuse himsf from this russia investigation. and president trump didn't know about it in advance. he was blind-sided about it when it was announced and he felt it wasn't necessary. he blames that on everything that's happened since then, including the appointment now of robert mueller, the special counsel. >> it seems as though ever so often someone takes a spin in the headlines with something like this. how do you see it playing out for the attorney general or does it, frankly? is there enough of a wall between the white house and the doj on this stuff? >> we've seen the president be frustrated with lots of different people. it takes him a long time to get rid of people. he is very loyal. jeff sessions has shown a huge amount of loyalty to him.
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as peter said. one of his earliest supporters. i think it's not clear yet that he'll jettison him at this point. i think we're still -- and i think we are at a point in the administration where he is sensitive and people around him are sensitive to the idea of getting rid of people given the lens they are under. >> stick around. we have 50 minutes more to talk about everything happening in washington. health care, taxes and more all on the gop agenda. let's hit it coming up with republican congressman john faus faso. he joins us live next. -where? -san francisco. -when? -friday. we gotta go. [ tires screech ] any airline. any hotel. any time. go where you want, when you want with no blackout dates. [ muffled music coming from club. "blue monday" by new order. cheers. ] [ muc and cheers get louder ]
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that capitol hill clock is ticking down to summer recess with not much movement in the senate on health care. block in much movement on the budget, taxes. the white house wants republicans to get something on the president's desk sometime soon, right. could it be before august break? reality check, here is what senator richard burr had to say about that time line. >> it's unlikely that we will get a health care deal. >> house plan dead on arrival? >> dead on arrival. >> president will not be happy about that. >> no, but that's why we have shared branches of government. we do the legislating and at the end of the day this is too important to get wrong. i don't see a comprehensive health care plan this year. >> another equally candid congressman. republican congressman john faso
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of new york joins us now. thank you for joining us. se lindsey graham said yesterday i don't think there will be. i don't think we can put it together among ourselves. politico reporting the senate could bring up the bill the know will fail to cut it off and move on to reform. >> we have to look at reality. reality is that the aca exchanges are failing in many parts of the country. we are seeing double-digit premium increases in new york state. while many people have been helped, many people have unaffordable premiums and deductibles. i hope the senate does move. we pushed the bill through the house. the bill is controversial. it has a lot of good features in it. i do think that, as there is more public understanding, it will get more public acceptance. but the senate really does need to move. >> realistically, congressman,
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what's the time line for that happening? >> i think it's -- we have to get it done, i would hope -- i heard senator mcconnell say the fourth of july. i would hope it would be sometime in july that we could get the health care bill moving. then we have to deal with the budget and we've also got to deal with tax reform. these things are stacked up waiting to go. they're kind of like those planes stacked up on the tarmac waiting for the air traffic control system to get modernized. >> if the first plane is the one blocking everything, to use your analogy, why not toss that plane out, focus on tax reform and the budget so you can go home in august and say, look what we did. >> we can walk and chew gum at the same time. we should beble to handle both. i don't want to jettison anything because the american people and families that are relying upon health insurance coverage definitely need us to take action to control the rising expenses in that
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insurance market. but many people are also waiting for us to do tax reform. there are a lot of things we have to do. repatriate the dollars that are stuck abroad overseas because they would be subject to tudoub taxation in the u.s. we have a lot of things on the agenda and it's up to all of us to make sure it happens. >> from a political perspective is there a component that plays into that for you personally? your district went for barack obama in 2008, 2012. trump won it by seven points in the past election. if there is no movement on health care, taxes, the budgets. are you worried it will hurt you come reelection time? >> what i am worried about is that we're not -- we will not finish the job for the american people, we'll not get these things done. there is a lot of frustration among people. whether on the left or the right, that congress simply can't seem to move when it has to. and so the focus that i have is to get things done for my district but also work hard to get a budget done, work hard to
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get tax reform, work hard to get the health care legislation completed. because these are critical. we have critical pieces in that legislation that would benefit upstate new york that i represent, ending this property tax mandate of medicaid costs on our local homeowners. that's a big deal in my district. i am not worried about the politics next year. >> you talk about wanting to do your job. wanting congress t be ae to do its job. does the president's tweeting get in the way of that? >> i thi the tweeting is very ill-advised. i would hope the president would rethink this. obviously it's good for him to be able to reach out to the american people. but i think on certain things it goes into areas that perhaps are not beneficial to the nation. and especially not beneficial to our international relationships, so i think i would urge caution on the president. look, he's going to do what he wants to do, but i think it would be really important for him to stick to tweeting on things that are safe subjects
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and not get into certain of these controversial issues because i don't think it helps his case. >> respectfully, congressman, i feel like that's a line that's been said for months now, since the president took office. do you see anything changing? >> well, no, i don't. i do think -- >> is that concerning to you? >> yeah, it is. i think, for instance, his tweeting about the immigration order undermines the case that is going to go before the supreme court. it plays into the opponents of his position. i don't think that that was particularly well advised. and so the bottom line is that, you know, we live in a new media age, tweeting is something that now is routine for governmental and political leaders, business leaders, and others. but i think sometimes, as president of the united states, maybe discretion is the better part of valor. >> it's interesting you bring this up that tweets are sort of what we do in this modern era. congressman collins was on this
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morning saying he does not believe the president's tweets are official statements. i would be curious as to your view. when the president tweets, is that a statement from the president? >> well, i -- whether it's an official statement of a government agency or the executive office of the president or whether it's just a random opinion, i am not going to get into that. but i do think that there is more legal standing to the official pronouncements that are issued by the president or by a cabinet official and an agency than simply an off-the-cuff comment that one might make on a media program like this or in a tweet. i do think that sometime it's like the old commercial. when e.f. hutton speaks, everyone listens. well, when the president of the united states tweets, everyone around the world listens, for better or worse. >> he is the president. >> that's true. >> i want to get you before i let you go, sir, on the budget proposal. something you've been critical of. you said it would hurt projects and grants for your district. what's the status on budget
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negotiations are are you satisfied with some of the modifications happening behind the scenes? >> i am on the budget committee. we are working closely among the republicans on the committee to try to come up with a consensus as to what the proper response is. i think the non-defense discretionary portion of the budget has been cut pretty significantly in the president's proposal and i don't think that's something that would pass the house. so we'll try to fashion something that will pass the house that will win bipartisan support, at least some support from democrats, but get the majority, the great majority of the support of republicans. >> confident you can avoid a shut-down? >> oh, yeah. i don't think that's in anyone's interest, and frankly, that talk is way to premature anyway. we do need to do a debt ceiling bill. we do need to get the other things -- there is a lot that's stuffed into the last couple months of the legislative session before the end of the fiscal year at the end of
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september. we have a lot of work to do and we have to roll up our sleeves and get it done. >> john faso of new york. thank you for joining us. up next, from the hill overse to london for the latest on therror attacks with new details out this morning about the third suspect. stay with us. boost. it's about moving forward, not back. it's looking up, not down. it's being in motion. in body, in spirit, in the now. boost® high protein it's intelligent nutrition with 15 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for when you need a little extra. boost® the number one high protein complete nutritional drink.
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we are back now with a check of your morning headlines. a 25-year-old former federal contractor is under arrest. here she is. reality leigh winter. charged with leaking a highly classified report on the russia investigation. the documents published by the online outlet intercept says russia military hackers tried to get into voting machines. the vice president pledging that american catholics this an ally. bill cosby arrived for day two of his sexual assault trial. on day one jurors heard from a woman testifying she was drugged and assaulted by cosby in 1996. the comedian has repeatedly denied all allegations of sexual misconduct. in london a moment of
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silence to honor the victims of saturday's attack. it comes as also this morning police release the name of the third attacker. joining me now from london is nbc news foreign correspondent lucy kafanov. what do we know about this person? >> his name is 22-year-old yousef zaghba. believed to be an italian of moroccan origin. rachid redouane 30 years old. 27-year-old khuram butt was known to police, mi5 and the local authorities. he was featured in a television documentary about british jihadists released a year ago. tough questions being asked of the authorities about why more wasn't known to prevent this. to bring your attention to where i am standing right now. this is the london bridge area. that van coming -- it's been open to the public for the first
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time today in limited, slow stages, increments. that van came speeding down, 50 miles an hour down this road. it ended up crashing into this bar behind me, the barrow boy and banker. the attackers getting out on foot and running to borough market, committing the atrocities, killing those people. and of course, today several days after the horrific attack, the moment of silence that you mentioned. you can see behind me the flowers. people starting to gather. the entire country pausing to remember those seven innocent lives who were killed on saturday evening. hallie. >> lucy kafanov covering the story from london. thank you. one of the sub plots to all of this is the british backlash after the president's comments about the london mayor. donald trump jr. was asked about it this morning. watch. >> maybe he should do something to fix the problem rather than just sit there and pretend there isn't one. >> you think t mor of london is at fault for what happened? >> no. that's not what i said. i think is time for the people
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there to do something more proactive. we can't sit there and pretend this is not a problem. >> this discussion, what we've seen between president trump, the london mayor, with whom he has fought before, right, during the campaign. obviously spreading, it seems. the "associated press" just interviewed him, i think, the london mayor. >> the "associated press" spoke with the mayor of london today. i believe ever a tafter the mom silence. he basically said he couldn't be bothered with donald trump's tweets. he appears to be trying to move on. as you say, the two have sparred repeatedly in the past, during the campaign, again over the weekend. but clearly what you are seeing over there is that british people, a lot of british people are very upset with the president. they view him as attacking their mayor in a time, you know, a time of crisis. and some people raised the question, how would people over here feel if -- >> right. >> -- the prime minister said something negative about, you know, the mayor of new york
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after 9/11 or, you know -- that they feel like he should have held back, and he did not. >> peter, part of this is the discussion now about the state visit that's supposed to happen before the end of the year with donald trump and theresa may. there is conversation around that too. >> mayor khan said president trump should be disinvited. shouldn't be allowed to come. somebody who didn't represent our values, he said. i don't know that that will happen. the queen has people all the time who are not necessarily. >> politically aligned. >> she is honoring the office as much as the person. it does suggest, you know, real tension with our top ally. it's not the first time. we had the fight over the white house heir, the conspiracy theory that british intelligence helped president obama surveil donald trump as a candidate. british said that's not true and were upset about it. theeak about the manchester bombing that the british were upset about as well. this is a continuing pattern. >> interesting that the president is tweeting about this just the week of the british
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election too. >> on thursday, of course, the british go back to the polls. tripl theresa may counting on a strong vote to give her leverage in the brexit negotiations. she doesn't seem to be doing nearly as well as people had thought. >> stick around. much more to talk about in a bit. we are coming back here from london to the u.s., talking about the new strategy to try to fight the nation's opioid epidemic. is the key to winning the fight in the courtroom. we'll be joined by the attorney general of ohio, one of the states hit hard in the crisis, one the states who is counting on it. that's next. what if technology gave us the power to turn this enemy into an ally? microsoft and its partners are using smart traps to capture mosquitoes and sequence their dna to fight disease. there are over 100 million pieces of dna in every sample. with the microsoft cloud,
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in west virginia, open oioid distributors are being sued. will this stop the problem or slow it down? >> when i announced that ohio was going to file a lawsuit against five manufacturers, i said very clearly that no one in ohio should stop their efforts to deal with this problem. this -- lsuits take a long time. we simply wanted to h tm accountable. we think they made -- they're responsible for making a lot of the mess and, frankly, they ought to pay to clean it up. i made it very, very clear. we have to continue in ohio to do some of the things that we are doing. there is good news and bad news in ohio. the bad news is exactly what the "new york times" said this morning and what you just said. we are seeing numbers continuing to rise in the state of ohio. we are seeing a movement from the heroin over to the fentanyl, and the fentanyl over to this car fentanyl, which is the large
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animal tranquilizer which is causing so many deaths. the good news is there are a lot of people at the local level who are doing great things. we are seeing grass-roots groups at the local level bthat are le by a mom or dad who have lost a son or daughter. companies inventorying their assets and working together on prevention. i have proposed in ohio that we start in kindergarten and do something age appropriate k through 12 every single year, something that's not only age appropriate but to do a curriculum that's proven to actually work. and if anyone wants a copy of our report, they can call the attorney general's office in ohio. we had a group that we put together, came up with about 23, 24-page report which is really a primer on prevention. i think all those things and more have to continue to be done every day.
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>> you are talking about sort of the local part of it here. you are talking about kind of going after the source. let's talk about on a federal level. the new health care bill when it comes to addiction treatment. it cuts back on some of that. you support repealing obamacare but this is obviously that affects your state, your population. are you satisfied with what the new health care bill working its way through congress would do? >> well, i have not really examined the bill so i can't comment on that. we hope that, in ohio, we get a block grant that comes back to us, but we will have to insure, when we get that and if we get it, we think we can handle the money better than the federal government. but it's important that we be able to continue to reach people who do in the have the money but who are addicts and who need to be in treatment. what we are seeing in the state of ohio, for example, in our 88 counties, many of the county sheriffs who have people in
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their jail for a brief period of time who are drug addicts, what they're doing is signing them up for medicaid before they even leave the jail. that's a very, very positive thing. and that needs to continue. >> i am with peter baker from the "new york times" who has a question for you. >> hi, sir. thank you for doing this. i am curious, the president, as you know, is verye concerned about this, president trump. he set up a task force to address the issue. what would you want the task force to do or recommend to the president to do from a national level? >> i think there are a number of things. i think, first of all, they should look at it from the education and prevention point of view. we're not going to arrest our way out of this problem. i am an old county prosecutor. we are involved every day in the attorney general's office through our bci unit in doing the law enforcement. we won't arrest our way out of this problem. i think we have to focus more on education and prevention. as a part of that, i would like
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to see a national campaign, a national tv and social media campaign that's aimed at parents. another campaign that is aimed at young people. get all the best experts that we can put together. get some people -- some of the companies that want to be of assistance to come forward with some money. i think we have to change the culture. you know, we've gone the wrong way in the culture in regard to h heroin, for example. when i was a prosecutor in the 1970s. even when people were doing drugs most wouldn't touch heroin. there was a psychological barrier that doesn't exist anymore. we have to somehow put the barrier back up. one of the lessons we should take is from the fight against tobacco. we made huge progress socially and culturally in that area and we need to use some of the same
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techniques that we used in regard to tobacco to deal with this opiate problem. >> when you talk about the social media megaphone that you would like to see i can't help but think about something else we've been talking about this session, the president's power of his twitter page. would you like to see more direct pleas or messaging from president trump himself? have you had those conversations with anybody at the white house? >> look, you know, the president has this as theodore roosevelt said the bully pulpit. now it's a bigger megaphone because of social media today. it's clear that donald trump really understands, from going through the past campaign, the horror and the problem of opiate epidemic. i think that it would be appropriate if he used that megaphone, even more than he's already done so, to focus attention on this. you know, maybe to make some visits, to go see some families who have someone who is recovering from the problem.
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he has a great opportunity to do all that, and i hope he does. >> ohio attorney general mike dewine. thank you for joining us to talk about all this. >> thank you. after the break, the "washington post's" robert costa joins us to talk about frustrating conversations happening behind the scenes in the gop.
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unfortunately the president has, i think, created problems for himself by his twitter habi habit. >> we live ia world today where unfortunately a lot of communication is taking place with 1 characters and probably it's best to refrain from communicating with 140 characters on topics that are so important. >> two top republican senators there talking about their -- you heard it -- unease with the president's tweeting habits. according to new reporting from the "washington post" that kind of unease is growing. robert costa, national political reporter and nbc news analyst. along with tim carner from the washington examiner and ram eesh from the national review. bob. what makes -- since the campaign, right, we have talked about unease inside some of the
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republican ranks with donald trump. what makes this different than what you have seen and heard before? >> well, they don't know what to expect, hallie, with this coming testimony from former fbi director james comey. questions and accusations about obstruction of justice loom over not only the white house but the republican party. this is a republican party that wants to move forward on taxes and infrastructure and health care repeal. and so, to have all of these things, all these problem confronting the gop right now, makes them uneasy, and they see the president continuing to tweet, which only adds to their uncomfortable manner. >> there is a question of what he might tweet come thursday when james comey gets up in front of congre, ttifies publicly. it's our repting that this so-called war room never took off. not happening. one source tells me zero chance. it doesn't exist. why? how -- what is the plan now to try to counter some of this comey talk based on the information you are hearing? >> i was just talking to some white house officials this
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morning. their view is that the president himself wants to be the messenger. his own warrior, his own lawyer, his own spokesman. so there is not a war room. some outside people, outside pe will be available, but the president is expected to be competing on thursday in response to comey. not to stay quiet during the testimony because he himself wants to be the one driving the process. >> bob, i want to go to tim here. tim, the examiner is asking the president today to delete his account. get rid of it on twitter. the chances of that seem slim, right? >> yeah. >> again, same question. what is different about this now? >> well, he's always been, you know, riling people up with his tweets, but some -- a lot of his supporters think all he's doing is sort of trolling the liberal media and the elites. the point of our editorial today is where we share your goals, mr. president, you're
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undermining our ability to accomplish it. and that's what we're trying to get across. we're on your side. we want you to stop tweeting. >> i'm sorry to do this but we have breaking news to get to coming out of paris. kelly cobiella is in our london bureau with these developments. walk us through what we know. what's happening? >> well, this is taking place at notre dame cathedral in the heart of paris. a few moments ago, police put out a tweet saying there was a security orati underway at notre me asking people to stay away from the area. we've since gotten unconfirmed reports that a man attacked a police officer with a hammer, or tried to attack a police officer with a hammer and was shot. we're still trying to confirm -- i believe we've confirmed with police that shots were fired. we're not clear yet on the condition of that person or any more information about that
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person who tried to attack this police officer. this, as you know, is a very heavily protected part of paris, ever since the paris attacks. there have been military on the streets, a state of emergency in france, and these areas are heavily protected with armed police as well as military in many cases. we are getting some, again, unconfirmed reports that people, tourists in the area, have been told to stay put if they're inside notre dame cathedral. of course, people in the area are being asked to stay away. at this point, hallie, it doesn't appear as though this is an ongoing situation in terms of a threat in central paris. again, we're trying to get more information from police right now. all we're hearing at this point is that someone did try to attack a police officer with a hammer. again, unconfirmed. and that person was then shot. hallie? >> kelly cobiella in london, if
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we are keeping an eye on the breaking news we brought you right before the commercial. an incident happening right near notre dame cathedral in paris. here is what we know at this time. there was some kind of an incident, according to paris police. somebody apparently trying to assault a police officer who then fired. we are working to find out more information. our team overseas has jumped on this. we'll bring it to you the second
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that we get it. in the meantime, i want to go back to the conversation we've been having about what's happening here at the white house behind me. in washington more broadly. let's bring in bob costa, along with tim carney and the senior editor at national review. thank you for your patience. we've been talking about the frtration among top republicans. it seems a though they're a little more comfortable getting vocal about it. is that your sense? >> you know, i think we have seen these expressions of discontent and concern from republicans before, but trump is behaving exactly the way he behaved during the campaign, as well as how he did for most of his previous 70 years on this earth. there's no real grounds for surprise. if the president is incapable of self-discipline on twitter, the fundamental problem is not twitter. the fundamental problem is the president's character. that is not going to change. >> tim, what's your preview of what we might see later on this
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week, specifically, strategy surrounding the comey testimony? >> i think trump has, on occasion, remained scripted. the beginning of his foreign trip and some other occasions. there's going to be an effort to make that happen in the white house. as ramesh is pointing out, it'll be to overcome trump's own will. but a trump response on twitter is bound to be counterproductive. not just to upset his enemies but hurt his own cause. there are people in the white house right now pushing for, let's have measured, reasoned responses and not have it be in 140 coharacters. will it work? half the time, they succeed in quieting him. half the time, they don't. >> bob, final thoughts to you. >> challenging time for this white house. a president driven by his furries afurry -- furies and frustrations. everybody in the gop is grappling with the reality, trying to figure out next steps. >> bob, tim and ramesh, thank
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you for joining us here. i appreciate it. cath lyerine and peter are stil with me on set. what will you be loong for this week? >> at the comey hearings, you're going to hear questions about his conversations with the president. we heard reports after what they may have said before. look at the republicans to ask the other question. if you were so concerned about these conversations with the president, if you thought they amounted to some sort of interference with your investigation, why didn't you do something about it? why didn't you report it to congress? why didn't you tell somebody? that's going to be a question that jim comey has to figure out an answer to. >> i also think, as important as what's happening in the hearing, we're all going to be watching what's happening outside of it, as in what is happening in the white house. i think if the beginning of this week is any indication, the president has been very, very active on twitter. we may see him responding tomorrow, thursday, and we'll hear directly from him there. >> cath lyerine and peter, excellent as always.
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much appreciated. i'm on twitter, snapchat, instagram and facebook. we'll be live from inside the west wing. now, i'll toss it to my colleagues, ali velshi and stephanie ruhle, day two of their new show. >> we're coming right back to you in a moment, hallie jackson. good morning, everyone. i'm ali velshi. >> i'm stephanie ruhle. the breaking news is out of paris. an incident near the notre dame cathedral took place. kelly cobiella is in the london bureau. what do you know? >> police in paris confirmed there was an attempted assault on a police officer in the vicinity of notre dame cathedral. there are reports that people have been told to stay inside the cathedral if that's where they were at the time. people have been advised to stay away from the area by paris police in a tweet that came through just about a half an hour ago. an eyewitness tells


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