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and he remains in critical condition. but the hospital did just put out the statement tonight saying despite the fact he is still in critical condition, they can say that his condition has improved over the last 24 hours. again, steve scalise took a single rifle shot to the hip. that bullet traveled across his pelvis and did a ton of damage. and he has been through a lot already, including the loss of a lot of blood. but everybody in the country obviously pulling for him. all right. well, that does it for us tonight. we will see you again tomorrow. now it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." >> the baseball game, a great thing to see tonight. the thing about steve scalise as we all reported last night, these were scheduled surgeries. they knew coming in they weren't going to be able to fix this in one surgery yesterday. >> that's right. >> so it's all going according to skechltd rachel, while you've been working there the last hour, we have breaking news from rod rosenstein. i want to get your reaction to
it. i want to read you this very unusual press reece rest lease that he has issued. normally people in his position are absolutely silent about these investigations. but he has issued a press release tonight, 9:22 p.m. saying americans should exercise caution before accepting as true any stories as attributed to anonymous official, particularly when they do not identify the country let alone the branch or agency of government with which the alleged sources supposedly are affiliated. americans should be skeptical about anonymous allegations. the department of justice has a long established policy to neither confirm nor deny such allegations. and as you know, that comes at the end of a couple days in a row now of what are appear to be leaked information about the special prosecutor's investigation. no way of knowing where that's coming from. might be coming from inside the justice department. might be coming from people who are subject to that investigation or who knows.
but a really extraordinary statement by rosenstein. >> i'm struck by the reference to what country. >> yes, yes. >> he is implying with that strange part of that statement that maybe the sources or individual -- a source for these recent newspaper reports about what's happening with the ongoing investigations is a foreign source. i'm trying to just -- i'm trying to reverse engineer, that to come up with reporting that would reasonably be sourced to foreigners who would have insider information about what's happening inside the fbi that americans otherwise don't have. >> or perhaps a foreign embassy in washington with guys named sergei working in there it's fascinating. but clearly, he seems nervous about these leaks. that's the headline. >> you know, it makes me wonder about that -- the closing paragraph of the story that "the new york times" ran last night,
which said citing a single source, that moneylaundering is one of the things that the mueller special counsel is looking into. i suppose it's possible that the sourcing on that is that they're following moneylaundering in other countries, so they're contacting other officials or other bankers in foreign countries, and those people are then reporting that they faced inquiries from justice department investigators. i don't know. man, that's opaque. >> it's an interesting statement. because the basic subtext of it is hey, everybody, just relax. everything that you need to know will come out in time. but this doesn't make anyone relax. >> right. >> it usually has exactly the opposite effect. why are you doing this statement? >> yeah. and at this point, basically what we know in this country about the obstruction of justice charges and about the russia collusion charges, we know because of the press. for him to be saying that the press is the problem here, i
need a little -- i need to hear a little more. >> well, we'll see what we hear. thank you very much. >> thanks. tonight new york attorney general eric schneiderman will join us. we'll get his reaction to what's been happening in washington. and the other legal fronts that the president is defending with state attorneys general and elsewhere. also, there is the story of jared kushner's finances now being a matter of direct interest to the special prosecutor. that's one of the breaking news stories of the night. but it seems some people in the trump white house are finally, finally taking my advice about something. >> the vice president's office says mr. pence has retained a personal lawyer to represent him in the special counsel investigation. >> i said if it's possible, would you let me know, am i under investigation? >> the president of the united states is now under criminal investigation. >> mueller is definitely looking
into obstruction of justice. >> president today lashed out against the special counsel. he called the investigation a witch-hunt, again. >> it's not a witch-hunt, no. >> i don't view it that way. >> look, who brought this on? it was the president who brought it on himself. >> regardless of recommendation, i was going to fire comey. i said, you know, this russia thing with trump and russia is a made-up story. >> as a defense lawyer, he is your nightmare client. he is contradicting every defense that he had. all of his tweets are terrible. >> he would serve himself so much better if he would just stop tweeting. >> what the president needs is a good night sleep, or several, maybe. >> this is a public service announcement for everyone working in the white house. it is time to lawyer up. >> well, now we know mike pence was listening to our public service announcement here one month ago, telling everyone in the white house to lawyer up.
the first person in the white house to hire a private criminal defense lawyer was the president's son-in-law, jared kushner, who actually hired jamie gorelick last year during the transition. jamie gore lib was the deputy attorney general in bill clinton's justice department and a hillary clinton presidential campaign supporter. the latest breaking news report tonight is from "the washington post" revealing that the special prosecutor is investigating jared kushner's business dealings. previous "washington post" reports had indicated that the special prosecutor was looking at the business dealings of trump associates. but this is the first confirmation that jared kushner is under investigation. sari horwitz, one of the reporters who broke that "washington post" story will join news a moment. the news that vice president pence has hired a criminal defense lawyer, and that jared kushner is under investigation comes 24 hours after "the washington post" reported last night that the president himself is now the subject of an obstruction of justice
investigation by the special prosecutor. "the washington post" reporting last night was based entirely on anonymous sources. it was followed by a "new york times" report also based on anonymous source that was a bit more tentative about whether the president was the subject of an investigation. then this morning at 6:55:00 a.m., came forward to confirm that the president is under investigation. president trump tweeted, they made up a phony collusion with the russian story, found zero proof. so now they go for obstruction of justice on the phony story. nice. with that nice tweet, the president himself confirmed that he is indeed under investigation. and once again, proved to every washington law firm that rejected him as a client that they were right to do so. president trump is the most publicly unmanageable public official as a client that any washington criminal defense lawyer has ever seen.
and so president trump is stuck with the same old new york lawyer who has been on the losing side of some of donald trump's best known cases. the trump university fraud case in which president trump ended up having to pay $25 million to the students that he defrauded. the baseless libel cases he brought against bill maher and former "new york times" reporter timothy o'brien. those kinds of cases. mike pence cannot afford a high-priced trial lawyer who charges hundreds of dollars an hour. but politicians like mike pence can usually use campaign funds to pay for criminal defense lawyers in situations like this. but to do that, mike pence would have to have a campaign fund that was completely under his control. which mike pence did not have until the day after i issued that public service announcement here to everyone working in the white house that they all need lawyers. the day after i said that, and i'm not saying it's because i
said that it's just a really nice coincidence. the day after i said that, mike pence established a political action strategy to raise his own funds. at the time he did that, i said it seemed kind of peculiar that the president would do that, and it could be read as a clue that the vice president thought maybe he wouldn't be running for reelection as vice president in his next political campaign that perhaps something would intervene and change his status. something like, say, impeachment. and that maybe he would be running at the top of the ticket. and he needed to be in control of his own campaign funds. needed to plan for that possibility. so he established his own campaign fund-raising arm. and now tonight that seems very naive to me. now that "the washington post" has reported that mike pence has spent the last several weeks interviewing lawyers before making his final decision to hire richard cohen, former
federal prosecutor. richard cullen can be paid with whatever money mike pence raises nor that fundraising pac that he created on may 17th. we now know that establishing that fundraising pac was a clue that mike pence was shopping for a private and very expensive criminal defense lawyer. we don't know the vice president's full schedule for tomorrow. but we do know that at 5:00 p.m., he is scheduled to have a fundraiser for his pac in indianapolis. a 5,000 contribution to mike pence tomorrow will allow you to attend the so-called leadership committee round table. as many seats at that table as people who hand over $5,000. a $2,500 contribution to tomorrow's fundraiser will give you access to a host reception, exclusive reception. and just a little thousand
dollars contribution allows you to attend the much bigger reception that everyone gets to go to. and the thousand dollars contribution will pay for maybe an hour of mike pence's criminal defense lawyer's time. joining us now by phone is sari horwitz, one of "the washington post" reporters who broke tonight's story on jared kushner. sari, your reporting is that jared kushner's business dealings are now specifically the attention of the special prosecutor? >> yes. good evening. yes. "the washington post" has previously reported that investigators were looking at meetings that kushner held with the russians in december, first with russian ambassador sergey kislyak, and then with head of the state-owned russian bank. at this time, it wasn't clear if the fbi was investigating his business dealings as it is with
they are also looking at the financial dealings of other trump associates like michael flynn, former national security adviser paul manafort, former campaign chairman, et cetera. but when he has now learned that they are indeed investigating the finances and also of jared kushner. >> sari, what does this mean now about the scope of the investigation which was begun as an investigation of russian interference into the election? >> i think it's expanding. we saw that last night in our report where we reported a story saying that the special counsel was looking at obstruction of justice, possible obstruction of justice of the president of the united states. you can see it is growing. it started as a counterintelligence investigation, and then into an investigation about possible collusion, coordination between trump associates, and russian officials. interfering in the 2016 election. and now we can see it's going into the area of finance and
obstruction. >> sari, good ahead. >> i just want to comment on what you read from rod rosenstein, the statement that went out tonight, which i found fascinating, a bit bewildering. i've never quite seen anything like it. because it's interesting that we -- and i'm a beat reporter. we check our stories with the department of justice. we run them by -- and in this case with the special counsel. we go through. we tell them what we're writing. we give them an opportunity to push back or to tell us we might be wrong. and they are just repeatedly declining to comment. >> yeah, so let's go through that for a second. i just want to read rod rosenstein's statement again because it is the breaking news of this hour. he issued a statement, which is very unusual for the deputy attorney general and his position to do with this ongoing investigation. but there have been a series of leaks, especially published by "the washington post" in the last couple of days that he seems concerned about.
he issued a statement tonight at 9 9:22 saying americans should exercise caution before accepting as true any stories attributed to anonymous officials particularly when they do not identify the country, let alone the branch or agency of government with which the alleged sources supposedly are affiliated. americans should be skeptical about anonymous allegations. the department of justice has a long established policy to neither confirm nor deny such allegations." but sari, you're saying that there are instances when you get this information from anonymous sources that is about justice department business like this, where you then work on the story. you then present what you have to the justice department, and even though their policy is to not confirm or deny that there are times when they might off the record push back very forcibly fforc
forcefully indicating what you have may not be true. in those instances, how does that affect what you publish? >> absolutely there are instances like that. i've been covering the justice department for nearly five years. and i've been a reporter for more than 30. and when you're working with officials, especially in the justice department or the fbi or various departments that we cover, you have a relationship with them. you come to them not on fishing expeditions. you come with them with a story you're about to run. and sometimes they will guide you and say i'm not sure that's right. or they'll say we have no problem with that. and there have been many instances where they'll give us comments and push back. very odd also that he talks about the country of origin. not really sure what he is talking thereby. >> are any of the stours washingt"washington post" uses e special prosecutor's investigation from another country? >> well, you know of course i would never answer that we never reveal our sources. we provide a lot of source
protection. so i won't get into where our sources are from at all. but i just found it kind of an extraordinary statement to put out tonight given that we're in touch with the justice department every day, and the special counsel's office, and no one should be surprised when these stories are published. >> and what you are willing to say is you do give the justice department an opportunity when you have stories like this about the president or about jared kushner to caution you against publishing them based on their view that they aren't credible. you do give them that opportunity. >> absolutely. on the obstruction story, we talk to public affairs people, senior officials. and we check to see if anyone has concerns. and listen to those concerns. and we're not hearing them. we're just not hearing them. >> sari horwitz, thank you very much for joining us tonight on
this story. >> thank you very much. we're joined by lachlan marchei, white house correspondent for the daily booechlts and lachlan, last night we were reading your reporting what was going on in the white house literally last night. that seemed to reach a point of hysteria and blaming the president, saying the president brought this on himself, that "the washington post" was revealing last night that the president is actually now subject of an obstruction of justice investigation. >> yeah. this is a continuation of a trend that has been going on for a couple of months now. and really the obstruction investigation in large measure from what's been publicly reported stems from the president sort of shoot from the hip style in public statements and on twitter and so on. you know, he for all intents and purposes came out and said yes, i fired james comey because i was sick of the direction this russia investigation was going.
in no attorney if they had been investigate those statements ever would have allowed him to say that for good reason. and there were a lot of people in the white house, the communications shop and elsewhere who were very upset he was undercutting the administration's message on that. so once again last night they felt that the president was being -- his public statements were coming back to bite him. they fear head would be back on twit their morning, lashing out once again. and sure enough, he was. >> david frum, you have to wonder about this rod rosenstein statement tonight. >> yes. >> it is unusual to put it mildly. and there is almost a little bit of a trumpian air to it. and one wonders, is it possible that the president asked him to do this? >> well, i'm a little nervous given your record of nostradamus predictions that you modestly revealed that we have to be careful what we say because it might come true. >> yes. >> it is a very weird statement. look, i think everyone who cares
enough about politics to watch your show understands that anonymous statements are to be taken with care, obviously. that's clearly true. that's just part of being a discerning news consumer. you also understand that if "the washington post" or "the new york times" or the atlantic has some similar -- has an anonymous source story that we're not just pulling people off barstools that the anonymous sources are people you can pay attention to, which isn't to say they're certainly right. for the deputy attorney general, the person in charge of this investigation to say i'm not going to tell you what it is that i want -- that i'm concerned about, just this thing out there, please don't pay any attention to it. could that -- could there be a more self-refuting statement? what is it? this thing you don't want me to pay any attention to, what is that thing? that sounds like something maybe i should pay more attention to. >> his first line is saying "americans should exercise caution before accepting as true any stories attributed to anonymous officials." and lachlan, last night the big one that we were talking about that was attributed to anonymous
officials was that the president himself was now under investigation for obstruction of justice. and so we reported with all the cautions you would bring to anonymous sources. and we wake up this morning and the president himself has confirmed it as a named source. the named source now saying that he is under investigation is donald trump. >> yeah. and even in the post story itself when they quoted marc kasowitz, his attorney, not only did he not deny it, he seemed to imply there was actually something there, because i think he called the leak illegal. i don't know if it would be legal if the information weren't true. this is -- the administration obviously, they're trying to sort of turn attention on the media here. they're trying to turn attention on to hillary clinton. and supposed misdpeeds eeds by campaign officials and her administration. those were the ones they were
seizing in james comey's testimony last week. so it's an exercise in deflection at this point. >> and david, it could be simply that rosenstein feels overwhelmed by the kind of leaking that is going on now. and wants people to consider the possibility. maybe he is trying to protect the special prosecutor's office. trying to say it's not coming from us. >> so the one possibility is there may be a very specific story coming down the pipeline that hasn't landed yet that he is worried about. that's a possibility. as you say earlier, the president just dictated this to him. and then he handled it with fire tongs and said how do i translate what the president said into something that won't make me a fool if i repeat it. and so he put into it this evasive language. or he could be responding to something. but it is one of those denials that makes you more interested, not less interested. >> yeah. it doesn't exactly calm the waters. david frum and lachlan markay, thank you both for joining us.
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♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ last night "the rachel maddow show" ended with a cliff-hanger co-starring ari melber. >> the deputy attorney general overseeing this inquiry. >> rod rosenstein. >> rod rosenstein is according to the evidence we have very likely a witness to what we can confirm tonight what we're being seen reported tonight in the firing. he may have to recuse. >> if they're -- so, i'm sorry to interrupt you with any exclamation of surprise. but you're saying if mueller's investigating trump for potential obstruction of justice in his firing of comey, if rosenstein reasonably should be expected to be called as a witness for that part of the investigation, he can't oversee the mueller investigation at all. he would have to recuse that would put rachel brand in charge of overseeing the investigation? number three person at doj?
>> exactly. even according to the white house's official story, the main people involved in the removal of comey are president trump and rod rosenstein. >> msnbc chief legal correspondent ari melber here on short notice. thank you. that does it for tonight. we'll see you tomorrow. it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." good evening, lawrence. >> doesn't it drive you nuts where in the last minute of an interview, someone like say ari melber drops a bomb where you would like to do another ten minutes just on that? >> ari, the most fun for me in that was watching the light bulb go on over rachel's head when you said this. because she was there right with you like very high speed, knew exactly where you were going once you said that. i was sitting there watching that happen, slower, getting it slower than either one of you. and when i finally caught up with you was absolutely stunned at this point, which was only an available point to make as of last night when we got the
information that the president was under now direct investigation for obstruction of justice, possibly for including the firing of james comey and rod rosenstein was involved in that. >> he was involved. he wrote the memo that said restoring public faith in the fbi and outlining what they saw as the sins of jim comey. and he had the private meeting at the white house with jeff sessions, who is already recused from the russia inquiry about the firing. so it is brand-new because it all broke last night. by the way, use know, as you've been reporting, these investigations can go different directions. if they're focus odd tonight campaign or moneylaundering, they might not ever reach the attorney general. this appears to have done so. >> now since you said it, i heard paul butler tonight taking it a matter of fact now that rosenstein is going to have to recuse himself. >> well, you were reporting about the other breaking news tonight, the statement coming late night from the deputy attorney general suggests that
as of 9:22 p.m., he hasn't yet. >> yeah. we're joined now by congresswoman stacey plaskitt. she previously worked with james comey when he was the deputy attorney general. you were in the justice department with james comey. you have a real familiarity with him, and the in regular procedures in the justice department. i can't remember seeing a statement like this from a deputy attorney general or an attorney general about leaks, the one that we've just gotten from rod rosenstein where he says americans should exercise caution before accepting as true any stories attributed to anonymous officials. we can tell what he is talking about. it's "the washington post" stories, the "new york times" stories that are breaking every night. how do you interpret that press statement tonight from rod rosenstein? >> well, you know, that is really highly unusual that he himself would make those statements. usually those statements are made by someone at the justice department who deals with the
press and their direct inquiries from individuals like yourself who are inquiring to see if in fact those sources are true. for him to make the statement means that it really does disturb the department of justice, and we need to see where this trail is going the lead us. >> and ari, as we go forward here, just to go back for one second, if rosenstein has to recuse himself, who takes over and how does that change things? >> ms. brant would take over as the next person the senate confirmed. and she would then be for the purposes of this inquiry the acting attorney general. >> and she was confirmed on a real party line vote, 52-48, as i recall. >> she has a few more conservative legal links. but i don't think we know yet exactly how she would conduct herself in this. i think the larger question is what does the justice department think its obligations are if there is pressure of any kind given that one of the things the special prosecutor is looking at is whether there is an ongoing
effort to impact these investigations, right? another way to put this is we always think about the saturday massacre happening really fast. this all happened on saturday night. it is not inconceivable, though, and it wouldn't change the legal calculus or exposure if you had a slow motion removal of different people. an fbi director here, a deputy attorney general there and someone after that. so it's not only the integrity and the policies, there is also a question of criminal exposure if folks think that they're being asked to for example intercede or remove people. >> there is an objection that some republicans have about james comey's and robert mueller's relationship, that they are close. they have worked together. they have preexisting relationship. and now here james comey is a witness for robert mueller in this kind of special investigation. is that troubling to you? >> i can't see how that's troubling. the relationship that they have are both law enforcement officials. both federal prosecutors.
this becomes at the level that they were both at a very small universe. and interestingly, james comey was the deputy attorney general in a republican administration. so the leanings would be towards the republican. of course both of them because they are such men of integrity have been both in office in those positions both in democratic as well as republican administrations. so i don't see what the issue is. i think it's really tenuous. and they're reaching in this respect. >> with your justice department experience, what is your advice to your colleagues in the house about their investigations and how to coordinate those investigations with the special prosecutor so that they don't interfere with each other? >> sure, lawrence. i think that one of the really important parts about having this special investigator is that he is able to go and look into and has the resources to investigate things that members of the house do not have the
bandwidths to do. we see now the dianne feinstein and the senate side is looking towards looking at the judiciary, investigate obstruction of justice. my colleague adam schiff has said he really is reaching out to conway to have the house intelligence committee look into some of this. and of course my own committee, the oversight and government reform committee, ranking member cummings has been relentless in terms of our own duties to this. but members of congress, of course, have other matters that we're working on. you know, we're not talking about health care or some of the other issues that our constituents are interested in. so the special prosecutor will really be doing a lot of the groundwork that members are not able to do. >> representative stacey plakett, thank you so much for joining us tonight. >> thank you so much. >> ari melber, thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you for making us all have to think faster when the stories come out. >> thank you. ari will be hosting a special edition of "the point." it's just "the point" on sunday.
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going to take some time and be a distraction in some ways. but ultimate lishlgs i think at the back end of this he and the country will be better served for it. >> joining us now, a man who has experience with donald trump as a litigant, the attorney general for the state of new york, eric schneiderman. what i want to ask you about, when we look back at the trump university case in which you managed to extract $25 million from donald trump, all along, right up until the moment where he just completely caved and said, okay, $25 million, he was saying those people are lying. he was saying his version of it was a witch-hunt. he was making it personal to you as being on a witch-hunt. so this, what we're seeing in this investigation isn't this what we've always seen in any investigation involving him? >> yeah, he does tend towards scorched earth tactics in whatever he does. you saw it in the way he ran his campaigns, in the way he would
take on other republicans in the primary and mrs. clinton in the general. he was absolutely adamant. they set up website tie tack me. he sued me for $100 million. he filed phony ethics complaints against me that eventually got dismissed. but it was all-out war up until the point it was never mind. >> and this same lawyer who is representing him now in washington. >> not so much. mark was there for a little bit. but it was really other counsel. it really is the president's approach to things. you saw it in his political style. look, he argues hard. he is arguing that there is nothing wrong, that he hasn't done anything and that is a witch-hunt. he is very good at trying tie tack in my case the prosecutor going after him. in this case, others who are looking at him. at the end of the day, and, you know, nice occasionally to agree occasionally with senator rubio, we're going to have to get this out in the open. the american people are not going to stand for this not coming out in the open. the conflicts and potential conflicts are just too serious. i don't think there is any way
he could avoid this level of scrutiny there is no possibility of shutting down this investigation do. >> you get the feeling he hasn't comprehended that up to now, and that's part of the firing? because in most of the litigation he has involved in in the past, almost all of it has been civil litigation there have been a couple grand juries that have looked at stuff in atlantic city. but civil bit lit gags. that's what you were involved with him. in civil litigation, whenever it gets too comfortable, you can always say how much do you want? i'm buying my way out of this. which he did with the trump university case. he is behaving as if there is some version of that here. >> well, there is not. what we're looking at -- what we're looking at is something that really is pretty essential to the fabric of this country. the president is not above the law. the president is not above the law. and when we took him on in the travel ban case, he said he should be able to do whatever he wants. that was his argument regarding immigration. the courts said no, you're subject to the constitution you.
can't discriminate. the courts over and over again are going to send him that message. under our constitutional structure, it was deeply embedded in the constitution that this new position, president of the united states was not going to be a monarch. was going to be subject to the law. the courts get to control this. and he is going to be subject to a special counsel who is going to turn over every rock. and he is going to have to put up with it there is no way he can bluster his way out of this one. >> the travel ban cases on the doorstep of the united states supreme court now, this will be the president's first experience with the united states supreme court possibly ruling on his issues. where does it stand now u? there is a date in june where the court will decide whether or not to hear it? >> whether or not to hear it, yes. we submitted briefs this week arguing that the court should leave the decisions of the ninth circuit and the fourth circuit undisturbed. to very, very strong decisions by two different courts of appeals. >> if the supreme court does not take the case, the travel ban is dead? >> the travel ban is dead.
and even if the supreme court decided to take it, the arguments are pretty overwhelming. and the findings of the court below are pretty overwhelming. it is very hard to argue that is not a ban based on religious discrimination. the courts found that in tremendous detail. we're talking about really carefully written opinions. lengthy increase into the facts. i believe the supreme court shouldn't touch it. i don't think they need to touch it. and the president himself needs to move on. we do not need to enact laws based on religious discrimination in this country. and i don't think any court is going to allow it. >> if the court does take the case, what's the timetable? when would you expect? >> then it rolls over into later this year. they're not going to do anything until late in the year. but in the meantime, there is no travel ban. >> right. >> they are free to do any vetting they want. it's not as though there has been some influx of trouble based on them. this is all of the assertions about national security that you made, there again you talk about the bluster. none of it was real. none of it was real.
this is something that was just a mean-spirited malevolent exercise in discrimination that has not withstood constitutional scrutiny. and i don't think this business of conflicts of interest and failure to disclose his own interests and the questions that are being raised about business dealings with other countries, i don't think that's going to withstand. he is not going to be able to avoid scrutiny on that either. he is the president of the united states. the bright lights are on. you're subject to the constitution and there are a lot of good lawyers looking over what you're doing. >> eric schneiderman, thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up, everyone knows that donald trump hates being laughed at. and that just might have had something to do with what the australian prime minister did last night.
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>> he threw out the first ball at the congressional baseball game tonight. capitol police special agent crystal griner who was wounded in that shootout remains in the hospital tonight after being shot in the ankle. tonight the hospital treating congressman steve scalise released this statement. earlier today the congressman underwent a slekt second surgery related to his internal injuries and a broken fwhoen his leg. he remains in critical condition but has improved in the last 24 hours. the congressman will require additional operations. and will be in the hospital for some time. that's top's last word. "the 11th hour" with brian williams starts now. tonight, vice president pence lawyers up as donald trump finds himself under investigation for possible obstruction of justice as the
white house staff worries their boss is obsessed. mrs. breaking news tonight, the special counsel is investigating jared kushner's business dealings. and amid all this, the president back at it on twitter, and back to attacking hillary clinton. we have all of it as the "the 11th hour" gets underway. it's another busy one. good evening once again from our headquarters here in new york. day 147 of the trump administration. and now the vice president has hired a lawyer. mike pence has hired richard cullen, form u.s. attorney, colleague of james comey, who also happens to be godfather to one of the comey children. and there is this tonight from the "washington post," quote, special counsel is investigating jared kushner's business dealings. the report notes that kushner now joins a list that already includes michael flynn, paul manafort, and carter page. all of whom under