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on message? and this hour a crucial meeting with the key partner. president trump and south korea's new president in the oval office. we'll bring that to you when it happens. our team up and raring to go this morning. we'll start with that firestorm with the presidential tweets directed at mika brzezinski and joe scarborough. this morning mika responded to the president's attack. >> my family brought me up really tough. this is absolutely nothing for me, personally. but i am very concerned to what this, once again, reveals about the president of the united states. it's strange. big picture, my father just passed away. my mother had two heart attacks and my daughter just lost a friend. those are the things i'm really worried about. those are the things that deeply impact me and leave me thinking about at night and hurting and worrying and thinking about the future. the president's tweets, whether they're personally aimed at me or aimed at me in some way, that
doesn't bother me one bit. >> that was just a short time ago here on msnbc. kristen welker is live at the white house. out of the gates, let's do it. today the president meets with the south korean counterpart. tax reform is still on deck. there's so much else we could be talking about right now, but, instead, the focus remains on the president's comments yesterday. what is the white house saying? >> right, peter, this is another example of the president stepping on his own agenda and the white house is digging in, pushing back vigorously. let me read you what president trump tweeted just a short time ago and then tell you what some of his top aides are saying. this is from president trump who said watched low-rated morning joe for first time in long time. fake news. he called me to stop a national enquirer article. i said, no. bad show. top officials are digging in, defending him in the wake of
those controversial tweets yesterday saying this is a president who's going to fight fire with fire. he has no plans to apologize. here's what top aide kellyanne conway had to say earlier this morning. take a listen. >> the good i hope comes out of this, we change the conversation. that respect for the office of the president and current occupant are in tact and we have a full conversation about policy. let people disagree on policy and stop the personal invective. it's completely toxic and connecting america with policy prescription that they need. >> so, peter, here's what's happening today at the white house. the president meeting with the leader of south korea, as you pointed out. there's so many important topics on the table. chief among them, north korea. obviously, this administration trying to ramp up pressure on north korea to stop its nuclear provocations. that is at the forefront. we expect to hear joint statements from both leaders. at this point in time, i'm told according to the white house official, the president is not going to take questions, but we
certainly have a lot of questions. we will be shouting them at the president. and just to touch on your initial point, this comes as the president is trying to get health care reform passed. tax reform passed. and i think the challenge for the president is will this latest controversy make some republicans wary about working with him. about siding with him on some of these issues that are already so difficult, peter. >> susan collins among those saying it will not affect her opinion of what she does with health care, but isn't making things any easier. kristen at the white house, thank you very much. those comments from the president on twitter overshadowing this health care fight. the senate adjourned before meeting today's self-imposed deadline with new draft legislation. capitol hill correspondent kasie hunt parked on the hill today. not a lot of company up there, expect. mostly senators have now scrambled to their home states. they were supposed to have something today. where do things stand? >> they were, peter. but the reality here is that
everyone has left washington. what remaining conversations are ongoing are going to via phone, e-mail, through staff. this sort of frenzied nature of this dealmaking has sort of tamped down for now. lawmakers are quite frankly bracing for a tough week back home. we've already seen through the course of the first half of the year tough town hall meetings for these members of congress facing, you know, angry constituents saying that they don't want them to mess with their health care. and i think that there's an expectation that that is what we're going to see more of today. senator cassidy in louisiana has a couple town halls. we're tracking other members meeting with constituents. here in washington, we're seeing a change in conversation around what conservatives want. you had the president tweeting this morning that he might support a full repeal without replacement. there you can see if republican senators are unable to pass what they say they're working on,
they should immediately repeal and replace at a later date. this is something the conservative senator rand paul has been talking about for the past week. the conservative from nebraska sending a letter down to the white house saying this is the course of action that they should take. but, quite frankly, peter, if this is a move that they did make, there is a reason they haven't been doing it already. that's because this would jeopardize more millions of people's health insurance than we're even talking about under this repeal and replace bill and not a lot of confidence that would get a replacement plan in time if they did do an immediate repeal. those senators are very, very unlikely to represent something like this. a further splintering of the republican party in this and may, ultimately, some sources are saying, lead to more conversations about whether this should be a partisan bill, peter. >> like throwing a hand grenade into a conversation that is already a tough one as it is. stay with us, if you will.
congressional correspondent and chief white house correspondent for the "new york times" msnbc political analyst and author of the new book "obama the call of history". >> to come up with a senate bill plan saying, basically, let's just repeal it, we'll worry about replacement later. what does that tell you about what this guy is thinking right now in terms of the strategy to accomplish something he said this week will be tremendous? >> he took this idea who floated just a little while earlier saying let's go with what we agree on. we agree obamacare is a disaster and we should get rid of it. finding something to replace it. that just scrambles the politics because for a lot of moderate senators, in particularly, the idea that they're simply going to let these people, you know,
lose their health care or that they're going to get rid of some of these provisions like pre-existing conditions. >> kelsey, let me ask you, in simple terms this sense, this idea that you might sort out and replace later, the president said he wouldn't be onboard and now potentially on board with it. but in real terms for americans at home, if there were to be a full-on repeal and the replacement weren't yet sorted out, what would that look like for americans in this country? >> well, it will likely mean that the insurers would start really more aggressively pulling out of the individual marketplaces. because there's no predictability. they need to set their rates for the year ahead. set their rates almost a full six, eight months ahead. if they're not sure the system will exist any more. they will be able to provide plans. if there was a longer runway and slowly stepping down the aca without a replacement. you would see panic in the
marketplace well before that began. beyond that, just not politically feasible. it's been, this is not a new idea. it's just an idea that basically leadership already through out because it couldn't get past. >> let's put up on our screen right now some of the new proposals to this plan that are being floated right now. appear to be what the senate republicans were focused on before they left. $45 billion in additional money for fighting to combat opioid the addiction problem in this country. and also allowing insurance companies to sell plans that do not have all of those so-called essential health benefits that the obama administration fought so hard to include. jill, to you, if i can. will hear from constituents over the course of the next ten days or. what does that look like and does more time do anything to help them or make it more difficult and complicated?
>> as kasie said earlier, these lawmakers go back home and hear from constituents who are really worried about what will happen to their health care. these are proposals that are coming out here. we'll continue to have these critical plans. we're going to continue to have, you know, the tax increases on the wealthy. i mean, all across the spectrum. i think what you're seeing from the president here is the fact that he wants a win. he's desperate for a win and he doesn't care at this point what it looks like as long as he can check that box. unfortunately, that check doesn't do anything for people at home. >> kasie, the president's desire to get a win on this. hearing from lawmakers that his understanding of the complexities, the key elements of these bills is, obviously, not his primary focus. he just wants to make sure that everyone is satisfied and he gets something that he thinks will make america great, again. what are you hearing from lawmakers in terms of whether he is helping or hurting this process? >> i think that you have
different problems depending on where you're sitting on the side of this fence. if you're conservative, you may have a different view than if you are one of these more moderate senators. the president has, in reality, said that he wants to do both things. he wants to repeal obamacare, but he doesn't want to take away anybody's coverage. that is what he said on the campaign trail. those two things are hard to reconcile and a sense up here on capitol hill that it would be better if the senate would have a little bit of room to figure out what to do and when the president inserts himself, it often injects more uncertainty and difficulty into an already thorny process. i think they're very happy up here with the influence of the vice president, mike pence. who, of course, had a career up here understands very well this process. has a very good relationship with mcconnell and is very kind of down in the weeds and nitty-gritty of where everybody stands and how to negotiate things. i think if they had their way, they would keep the president off twitter and the vice
president in a room having private conversations. but, clearly, the president has other plans, at least today. >> they wouldn't be the only people suggesting the president stay off twitter right now. speaking of twitter, kelsey to you in conclusion. these latest tweets and back and forth tweets with joe and mika on "morning joe." any effect on their willingness to get on board with this administration on any of its policy plans going forward? >> no, it won't. i think they see the president as the thing they have been asking for for eight, nine years. they wanted a republican president they could have to sign the bills that they pass. >> got it with all its flaws. >> they did. you know what this is, they have what they wanted. they wanted somebody to sign the bills. may not be everything they wanted, but they're not pushing back against him too hard. >> jill and peter, you stick with us, if you will, for this hour. this morning the state of hawaii is challenging president trump's travel ban. part of that executive order
took effect last night. department of homeland security insists it's operating normally. pete williams is in our washington bureau. pete, give us a sense, obviously. a sense that there may be consequences that advocates were not satisfied with the way they thought it would be implemented. hearing from the hawaiian attorney general on that topic. >> here's what the hawaiian challengers are saying, peter. look at what the supreme court said earlier this week when the obama administration could enforce part of this ban. the supreme court said, yes, the president has a national security need to control immigration. but people in the united states -- we'll get to this graphic in just a second here. and so just bear with me for a second here. but on the other hand, people in the united states have a constitutional right to try to bring people in here. so, the government, they say, is drawing the wrong distinction. the supreme court said there is a difference between people who have no connection to the u.s. and people who have a close
family connection. now too, t the graphic. here is the way things now stand. yes, the government says you can apply for a visa, if someone in the united states is a parent, a spouse, a child, adult son or daughter, son-in-law, daughter-in-law or sibling. fiance was added because it was not originally on the list. not grandparent and grandchildren and so on. what the challengers are saying, this doesn't make any sense. grandparents are arguably closer than a mother-in-law. you can come to the u.s. if you're coming here to give a lecture or you're going to teach at a university or be a student. and they say that this distinction isn't right. it isn't in keeping with the supreme court ruling. the judges said the government needs to respond and the final legal briefs are due next week. so, there could be a ruling on this next week. >> just to conclude the implementation of this began 12,
14 hours ago. we haven't seen any of the chaos that was implemented many months ago. is that a fair assessment? >> really a feature of how the second executive order. not a ban on travel, but getting a ban on visa to travel. the change that went into effect is when people went into consulates overseas today and asked for a visa, that's when the change will hit. if you have a visa, you're able to board planes and enter the country. >> pete williams, thank you very much. we're going to turn back to health care after a short break. more on president trump's suggestions that republicans consider repealing then replacing obamacare. we'll ask those questions of governor asa hutchinson. would he be onboard with that plan? he's live from little rock, next. to not just accept what you see, but imagine something new.
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happening right now on msnbc. this is the president of the united states greeting his counterpart from south korea as he arrives at the west wing. the two will meet privately for the next hour before they make statements in the rose garden. this alliance as important as ever as the u.s. is trying to crack down on north korea and the threat it is posing. the nuclear threat, in particular. the two men smiling. the president smiling before they enter the west wing.
back to the topic of the day, senate republicans aren't the only ones suggesting fixes to the now stalled health care bill. republican governors are also weighing in, particularly those from states that expanded medicaid under the affordable care act. republican governor of arkansas, asa hutchinson to reconsider its cuts to medicaid spending saying it would place an undo burden on many of those states. governor, nice to see you, thanks for being here. i appreciate it very much. >> it is good to be with you and p participate in the discussion. >> the president suggests that republicans should take an alternate route if they can't pass this bill. he said repeal now and replace later. would you advise that? >> that doesn't sound like a good idea to me. we're going through a lot of uncertainty right now with the current debate in washington. and people want some understanding of the path to the
future and what the future health care system is going to look like. we need to do to that to change that course and say we're going to repeal obamacare. but not know what we're going to replace it with. we really give a lot of uncertainty and unnecessary worry. we have to slog through this and the senate is doing a remarkable job trying to bring people together to have the reform that is so much needed in an unastainable system right now. >> the uninsured rate in your state is something like 10.2%. sort of on par with the national average. your state of arkansas and the state of kentucky, as well. the ones that posted the largest drops of uninsured rates in the country so far. with that as the backdrop. the senate bill passed, it would get rid of medicaid expansion and cap spending on medicaid per person. your state has benefitted from that expansion that really only expands it to make those covered, if they make something up to $16,000, $17,000 a year.
so, what would happen to those individuals? >> well, on the medicaid expansion, if we cease that, then they would have to go on the subsidized individual exchange and many of them would not because the subsidy is not sufficient. so, these are people who are making the poverty level or around that so they could not afford it. so, clearly, the number of uninsured would increase. it puts states in a very difficult position because federal government made a commitment of 90% cost share on the expanded population. now they want to reduce it down to 70% in arkansas. and, so, we could not absorb the extra $2 million it would cost us. we would do away with that expansion and a lot of consequences for people who have relied upon that. >> governor, to be clear, you
had called for the federal poverty rate and 100% covered under the expansion. those are folks who make 16,500. so, the cbo says that those folks couldn't afford that coverage. isn't that leaving people out on a lurch? >> this is reform. we're already doing in arkansas and this is exactly what we've got to do is to help those that need it the most and concentrate our state resources and our federal resources on those. so, right now we're doing reform in arkansas and not waiting for washington. we're going ahead and we're going to reduce the expanded population by about 60,000. they have an opportunity to go on under the exchange at the current law and adequate subsidies to get that. it's a seamless transition. if it changes down the road under the new senate plan where they're not going to be able to go on the exchange, then they
are uninsured and that's a problem. >> one frequent criticism is that this bill contains large tax cuts for wealthy investors. do you think we should keep those taxes in place, if it means more to help the most vulnerable in states like yours? >> well, that's the cost and where you come up with the revenues is a senate question. i'm delighted -- >> what is your position on this? do you think we should keep those taxes in place for the wealthiest americans? the wealthy investors? >> i know that's under consideration by the senate. they're debating that point. >> what would you tell your senator? >> a massive cost shift to the state. and as to how they avoid that cost shift to the state, i leave that to senate. if they have to continue the revenue stream under the previous law, then that's one solution to it. if they want to shift other revenues, that's fine. just do not have this massive cost shift to the state that would require us to abandon some of these programs that people
are relying upon. >> in nevada, senator haler has been working with the republican governor, governor sandoval in that state. would senator cotton vote for a bill you did not support? >> very attuned to what raising in arkansas. we have a great working relationship. they're looking to their other colleagues and trying to address the issues that i raised. as to what they finally vote on, i don't know. they understand how difficult a position we're in that what we have is not working over the long term. it's got to be changed. what's the best solution and i'm giving my ideas and i'm saying how this is going to impact arkansas. they kngot to make the best ju e judgments from there. >> the administration voter fraud commission asking for extensive voting data from all states. do you plan to comply with that request? >> we have not received the
letter yet. so, we want to look at it in detail. by and large, i would be very hesitant to send out voter data that is available here in arkansas into a national database. even though it's publicly available information. i understand they're requesting. we generally handle voter fraud issues state by state. we'll wait and see what the letter says. i'm a little hesitant about it. >> do you believe that millions of americans voted illegally in the 2016 election or tens of thousands illegal votes cast in your state? >> all i can speak of is arkansas. i think we had a very good election system. it was fair. i don't think we had massive amounts of fraud. i think it was a very fair election and we got the result that people wanted. >> governor hutchinson, we appreciate you being here. >> good to be here. south korea's president arriving at the white house where he's now meeting with
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back now live on msnbc. travel ban in effect for the first couple hours and getting the first legal challenge. state of hawaii suing overnight looking what the ban classifies as a close family relationship. according to the trump administration, grandparents and extended family of u.s. residents from those six countries are not eligible to apply for a visa. the state department last night further clarified its ban allowing fiances to enter. former national security adviser susan rice has agreed to testify next month before the house intelligence committee as part of its russia investigation. some republicans have accused rice of impopularly handling classified intelligence reports. she has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing. defense secretary james mattis says the u.s. may have withdrawn troops too quickly from afghanistan during a visit to nato headquarters in belgium.
nato agreed to send more troops to help train and work with afghan security forces. in iraq today, the government just declared victory over isis inside its borders after a key strategic victory in isis de facto capital of mosul. the iraqi prime minister says the isis caliphate is through. iraqi troops captured the mosque in mosul where it was first announced nearly tlhree years ago. isis fighters destroyed themselves when troops started closing in. ma matt, in simple terms, still fighting in parts of mosul. what can we tell folks to secure the remainder of isis' stronghold? >> thanks, peter. retaking this mosque is major, symbolic blow against isis. as you mentioned, still a whole lot more to be done. hundreds of isis fighters are
still held up in the old city. many more retreated outside of mosul. this battle for mosul, this is the second largest city in iraq. it's been going on for more than nine months. so, we can expect a lot more fighting, especially in the dens and alleyways of the old city. of course, the group's ideology and the reach of its organized terror extends far beyond syria and iraq and that remains a formidable threat. we've seen that in terror attacks, not just in europe, but also throughout the middle east. so, this latest victory comes just as anti-isis forces in neighboring syria have managed to racka. we can expect a final assault on that city in the coming months. when the prime minister of iraq says that isis is finished but that iraqis are going to continue fighting. he does mean that there is a victory here. wasn't as much as a contradiction as it might have sounded. this is a crucial, symbolic blow
against islamic state. >> it would appear premature for the governor to consider this. caliphate isn't going to walk away from iraq or presumably they reorganize and they return to the battlefield there and else where. >> that's right. they have a lot of experience doing that because, remember, isis as we know it now is reconstituted from some of the not so defeated elements of al qaeda in iraq during the u.s. occupation. they were fighting the u.s. and other shia elements within iraq for years and years. isis has spent a lot more time and actually quite used to being out of style rather than being a dynamic force. remember, the thing that makes isis so distinct from its predecessor al qaeda is the fact that it had this caliphate. it had a piece of land that it said it was able to self govern. that's what caused thousands of young muslim men to flock from across the world. without this mosque, without this caliphate, it's actually very weakened. it's not just symbolic, it's
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the white house and kremlin have confirmed that president trump and russian president putin will have their first face-to-face meeting at the g-20 summit in germany. the white house is still finalizing its agenda. he wouldn't confirm whether russia's meddling in the 2016 election would be among the topics of conversation. joining me to talk about this and much more is evelyn farks and former deputy assistant secretary of defense for russia, ukraine and eurasia. let me ask you, evelyn, if i can out of the gates in the simplest of terms. what should the goal be for the president and his team offed a e adviso advisors? >> i can't say what i anticipate. but the goal should be setting a very firm line with the russian president and with the kremlin saying no more interfering in
our political process. and i mean the whole political process, not just the elections. all the fake news, the propaganda and the information we believe that together with their cybercriminals they've collected on not just democrats, but also on republicans. cut it out. >> the reason this is so compelling because of all the testimony we heard from the fbi director james comey and jeff sessions, the president shows little interest, has shown little interest in this and sessions said he hadn't been to a classified briefing on this topic. >> i think he needs to wake up, because, again, the russian government does not distinguish between republicans and democrats. they're just looking for people to help them advance their agenda. that's really important. the other thing is ukraine and, again, the ongoing aggression towards ukraine military, but also cyberand informational. and ukraine matters because if the russians, if we can't stop the russians in ukraine, they'll keep doing it else where. we saw them interfere on the french elections and they're doing it in the german elections. although the germans have been quite strong saying, cut it out.
maybe they said more privately. >> likely to see angela merkel there for a meeting, as well. a new package of russian sanctions still being debated by members of congress. how does this cloud that? >> a piece in foreign policy in the shadow, we are arguing that the president needs to have a strong hand. we would have hoped the sanctions package would have been passed this week. either way. we need to have the congress speaking for the american people. that's their job saying that none of this will stand. so, it's about what happened to america and europe. >> peter, let me ask you. cast the stakes of this meeting right now. obviously, the optics of the this meeting russia still hovering over this administration. but moscow's meddling in the election, as well. vladimir putin loves the photo-op. the two of them side by side is what he will embrace more than anything. >> i think you can't remember a meeting that has been so fraught in a long time. this is one where body language
is going to matter and the message is going to matter and you saw some decision by his white house try to sort of set the stage that the president will visit poland before he goes to the summit. the way of saying to the eastern and send vice president pence now to estonia, georgia, montenegro and the question is whether the president sticks to that message himself if he does sit down with vladimir putin that they might just sort of stand. >> jill, we -- how do they sort of frame this moment that is about to occur here? >> they didn't really lay out what the president is expected to discuss with putin. >> yeah, they said the agenda is still in the works. >> this is typically something you have advisors working on for weeks and months and lay out the specific agenda he is going to lay out. what this is going to come down to, regardless of what advisors say, this is a president who decides things for himself and a president who really feels like any time you talk about russian
meddling in the election what you're doing is undermining his presidency. >> there is debate within the administration about how they should handle this moment. does it matter where they meet on the sidelines for a brief standing talk or a formal bilateral meeting where they sit side by side and frame the shot for the photos and then disappear? >> normally i say it doesn't matter that much, peter. but given what jill just said more risk for the united states if there is a sit down. >> what is at risk? >> well, we will come across as too weak. the president might agree to something that he hasn't been briefed on because putin puts it out there and it sounds good to him. again, you don't go into a real substantive meeting and the russian president is going to be fully briefed without knowing exactly what you want to get out of that meeting. so, hi, how are you? let's try to cooperate but cut out the meddling is a lot safer. >> let me ask you, if i can.
bring up "wall street journal" that has new reporting as a backdrawn as we talk about the russian investigation. the paper reports on an alleged effort by a man of peter smith and some of his associated to obtain e-mails he believes were stolen from hillary clinton's private server and e-mails show that smith and one of his associates considered michael flynn an ally in this effort. the journal writes this, the operation mr. smith described as consistent with information that has been examined by u.s. investigators. they continue. investigators have examined reports from intelligence agencies that describe russian hackers discussing how to obtain e-mails from mrs. clinton's server and then transmit them to mr. flynn via an intermediary, according to u.s. officials with knowledge of the intelligence. when "wall street journal" spoke to smith he never stated that flynn was involved. reportedly denied any wrongdoing. want to get your sense of that. at first glance, not our
reporting, but this appears to have the potential of the closest thing of some idea of some form of collusion to anything we've seen to this point. no? >> pretty surprising report that, as you said, we have not confirmed at this point. but, you know, this is just another example of this drip, drip of information that comes out. you know, with these very concerning, potentially ties between trump campaign aides and russia. >> i think you might be surprised to say that president of the united states during his campaign would in some way encourage russians to actually hack into e-mails for his opponent. except that he did on camera live on the record. >> they say he's joking -- >> they said it is a joke. okay, if that's a joke. that's not really the kind of joke that most candidates would make. that's why reports like this have some traction because it does seem to fit into what he said on the record itself. >> it gets into the whole issue of whether it was collusion or coordination. if it was out in the open and it wasn't collusion, they didn't plan this but they kind of work together to bring about a result
that they both wanted. meaning they, the russian government, and the trump campaign. it's just as bad. >> can i ask broadly about a meeting that is taking place right now. the president meeting behind closed doors with his new counterpart in south korea. two world leaders having their first opportunity behind closed doors. comes at a time when real tensions in that region and frustration about china's ability to crack down on north korea. even as just weeks ago. seem to be embracing, you know what, hey, i'm going to interrupt very quickly and as i speak about that, the two of them are in the oval office. talk about good timing. >> it's actually very friendly press. don't let that get you. although we just lost a table. i want to thank the president of south korea, president moon for being here. we had a great afternoon yesterday. we had a fantastic dinner at the white house, accomplished a lot
having to do with our thoughts on north korea and very much our thoughts on trade. we are renegotiating a trade deal right now as we speak with south korea. and hopefully it will be an equitable deal, a fair deal to both parties. it's been a rough deal for the united states. but i think that it will be much different and be good for both parties. so, we're in the process of doing that. we're also in the process of discussing our, frankly, many options. we have many options with respect to north korea. thank you very much. president? yes. >> thank you. >> the president will speak.
>> translator: i would like to thank president trump, once again, for inviting me to the white house and for his warm welcome. when i won the election last month, president trump was the first among all foreign leaders to call me to congratulate me. i believe that was to reconfirm the strength of the korea/u.s. alliance and also president trump's warm message to the korean people who had been
suffering through political turmoil. last night after dinner with president trump, we discussed various issues through diverse scope and very honest discussions on issues to include the north korean nuclear issue and other issues of mutual interest. it was a great opportunity for us to further the trust and friendship between me and president trump. it was also an opportunity for us to reconfirm the fact that the united states and korea are
walking together on the same path towards a great alliance. and so i hope that through this summit meeting today, i hope that our relationship can further develop into a more meaningful and fruitful relationship. thank you very much. >> what many people don't know is that south korea is a major trading partner with the united states and we want something that is going to be good for the american worker and i think we'll be able to do that today and i think we'll be able to do many other things. so, the relationship is very, very strong. and our personal relationship with president moon, our personal relationship is very, very good. thank you very much, everybody. thank you. >> thank you very much.
>> thank you, sir. thank you. >> i've never seen that. this guy was assaulting me on the way in. >> i know. >> i'm not exactly sure what we're hearing behind the scenes. looked like getting roughed up in some form as the reporters were leaving the oval office. president moon and president trump in conversation. they will be speaking in just a short time from now in the rose garden with more details. we want to get to kelly o'donnell at the white house to tee up the backdrop of all things north korea right now, a topic of great interest to all americans and certainly to this president, kelly. >> you see, peter, when the
president reemphasized the trading relationship with south korea and the united states, that's also an indication that, of course, he pulled the u.s. out of the tpp, the transpacific partnership and is trying to have a more direct relationship with south korea. so this is a meeting of great importance on the economic front as well as the international sort of brinksmanship that the u.s. finds itself with along with south korea and hoping to have china's help against north korea. this sort of gave you a window into what happens with these oval office visits. you and i have each been in there as the representative pooler from a given network that rotates each day. we've been told by our colleagues who had that responsibility today that with the two nations press cores going into the oval office, there's always a little jockeying for position and apparently -- >> as we know well. >> yes. you have to have some elbows in this game. apparently there was a little bit of -- a lamp was tipped, but
it did not hit the floor and a shout outto keith shiler, the president's long-term security chief with the trump organization who is now here as an official government operations of the oval office. >> yep. >> director. he caught the lamp, apparently, is what we're being told. so that's where you heard the president talking about sort of the rough treatment. it's an unfortunate day for that to occur while the president is also engaged in a more vigorous fight with the media, but you had a lot of things happening there. the relationship of two new leaders, clearly president trump was pleased that president moon acknowledged that he was the first to call him. >> right. >> upon his victory. so, a little electoral politics, a little of trade and also the big concerns about north korea. we will see them in the rose garden later today, joint statements. president moon will speak in his native language with the english translation. we don't expect there will be questions. our colleagues, some of the dim
you heard there were asking about the upcoming meeting with vladimir putin and any response to the tweets and the president declined to answer those questions. peter? >> we'll focus on the policy itself now, kelly and avoid the jockeying. we'll see you in the rose garden. joining us is a senior research fellow at the heritage foundation. peter baker, chief white house correspondent for msnbc political analysts stays with us for now. can you cast the stakes for this new relationship between the president and south korean counterpart given all that's going on in that region. how important it is that they are up to speed and in synch in no time flat? >> it's very important. and actually south korea really is at a disadvantage because of their election system and the impeachment process. president moon is only come into office about a month ago. so unlike prime minister abe of japan and chinese president xi, he has not yet had the time to
develop a rapport with president trump. >> what are the risks, the real challenges, the land minings as they were right now. obviously we have concerns about north korea. south korea sits on its border, side by side. >> there are a lot of questions and even concerns about president moon. he's a left of center president. he during the campaign as well as during his service as chief of staff to a previous liberal president, he's commented on a much softer policy towards north korea. and he's even questioned the deployment of a u.s. ballistic missile defense system called t.h.a.d. he is sending a lot of reassuring messages to overcome those concerns. >> peter, yesterday we heard from the white house new sanctions being levied against a chinese bank that does deals in effect with north korea. is this the start of a process to try to further the crackdown, as it were? >> tighten the screws, obviously. and the interesting thing, of course, as we've talked about, president trump has made good friends with xi jinping. he has invested a lot in that
relationship as lever against north korea. and sanctioning one of his banks is an interesting and delicate move. steve mnuchin said it's not targeted at china. we're not saying anything bad about the beijing government, but you can see why that would add extra complication. >> what will you be looking for in particular from their comments in the rose garden later on? >> i'll look for affirmation of conversion of policy on north korea rather than differing views. we would like to have president moon affirm the deployment offed that missile ballistic system. that's there to support our 28,500 sons and daughters in harm's way. >> thank you. we'll be back with the big picture for today right after this.
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back now live. we've been rolling out a new segment here that we call the big picture. an image that we think tells a pretty good story. today's big picture comes to us from berlin. two people wrapped in a rainbow flag in front of the brandonberg gate this morning after germany's parliament voted to legalize same sex marriage in a historic vote. germany joins france, britain and spain among the european nations where same sex marriage is legal. they have been legal in the u.s. for more than two years. but this year notably there was no pride month proclamation from the white house or the president. there is still time. today was the last day of pride
month, though it seems unlikely. the photographer here, fa breeze owe bench from reuters. we appreciate you watches us for this hour on msnbc. right now more news with mie colleagues ally velsy and stephanie rhule. >> good morning, everybody. >> it's friday, june 30th. let's get started. >> president trump hosting the president of south korea. >> there will be a meeting again this morning. could not be a more serious time for our relationship with south korea. >> but is it planning to take any questions at this point. the first full day that a scaled back version of president trump's travel ban is in effect. the government is already made one change, fiances now count. >> if there isn't a combined repeal and replace plan i'm writing a letter to the president urging him to call on us to separate them. >> we're very confident here at the white house that health care gets done in quick successy