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11th hour with brian williams is next. network. while health care fizzles, congress leaves town, and his guests at the white house are more important than most. america heads into this holiday weekend anxiety and fireworks in the air. "the 11th hour" begins now. well, good evening once again from our nbc news headquarter here in new york. day 162 of the trump administration. what was billed as energy week saw the president pour a lot of his time and attention into a twitter war with the morning anchors on this network. for a second day he chose to post on twitter about "morning joe" after the program's hosts responded to his attacks.
he wrote, quote, watched low-rated "morning joe" for the first time in long time. fake news. he called me to stop a "national enquirer" article. i said no, bad show. here is what led to those unfiltered thoughts from the president, a new revelation from joe scar borough that the president might have been willing and able to kill a tabloid story if he got an apology and more favorable coverage. >> we got a call that, hey, the national inquirer is going to run a negative story against you guys. and it was -- you know, the president is friend with the guy that runs the national inquirer. and they said if you call the president up and you apologize for your coverage, here is what led to it. unfull-timered thoughts from the president a new refrlgs from joe scarborough that thement might have been able and willing to kill altabloid story if he a apology and more favorable coverage. then >> we got a call that, hey, the national inquirer is going to he will run a negative story against you pick guys. up the phone and basically spike the story.
>> i'm fine. my family brought me up really tough. this is absolutely nothing, but i think for me personally. but i am very concerned about what this once again reveals about the president of the united states. it's strange. the president's tweets whether they're personally aimed at me or aimed at me in some way, that doesn't bother me one bit. it does worry me about the country. >> senior advise door the president kellyanne conway defended her boss on "good morning america" and called out some members of the media about their love of the country. >> if you go back and see what was said about this president, their are personal attacks about his fizzicalities, his office. he's called a goon, a thug.
george, it doesn't help the american people to have the president covered in this light. i'm sorry, it's neither productive -- the tuxicity is over the top. >> and here's the problem with all this going on while trying to conduct matters of state, twice today the president was asked whether he thought his initial attack went too far. once it came while he was standing next to the president of south korea. >> mr. president, do you regret the tweet you sent about mayor brzezinski? >> and at the white house press briefing today where reporters were not allowed, the president was asked about whether he would let them ask all their questions and answer directly? he has not held a solo press conference in 134 days.
we are able to play you an audio of the response. >> someone suggested that maybe it is time for the president to have another news conference and perhaps answer these questions himself rather than subject spokespeople such as you and sean to questions about controversy. does he plan an actual news conference in the near future? >> i'm not sure if there's one on the schedule, but i guarantee if there is one, this group will be the first to be notified. >> the comes during the run up to what may be the most critical meeting he has as president thus far. his one-on-one talks with russian president vladimir putin, the man who ordered hackers to meddle with the u.s. presidential election, that happens at next week's g20
summit. let's bring in ashley parker, her byline, why some inside the white house see trump's media feud as winning. more on that in a bit. but we're happy to note ashley is also an msnbc contributor. we welcome james pendal to the broadcast. welcome to you all. ashley, i'm going to begin by embarrassing and quoting back to you. but you and rucker really know a way around a sentence. this is from your spees tonight. vicious tweets, nasty nicknames, an entrenched foe, and a reprisal by trump of one of his favorite roles, the victim. but what looked like a public relations debacle amounted to an abundance of winning. a catchphrase playfully
repeated. ashley, what's going on in there? >> well, it's an interesting question because what you saw this week a lot of people in the media thought was, you know, a pr debacle. not that great for the president. but when we started reporting it seemed actually that the white house enjoyed this feud. they liked going to war with cnn earlier in the week that that story the network ultimately had to restract. and they liked going to war later this week with msnbc. one of the few complaints we heard about the president's tweet is that the feud with msnbc overshadowed the feud with cnn. so they'll say privately, you'll not hear us defend it privately. although sarah huckabee sanders did go out and defend it
publicly. it's not bad for the brand and good to motivate the base. and keep in mind we're talking about the spite of the media and not russia, and that's a good thing. >> and the meter is running in a pursuit of an agenda, a deliverable for all those members of congress who just flew home to their districts and their states to bring all the states back home. >> you're absolutely right, brian. and the focus is supposed to be on hake. mitch mcconnell is trying to get through the senate health care bill. donald trump is not helping him keeping the attention on fights with the media and other things that district what the supposed to be the republican agenda. there was an npr poll that came out this week that said an a majority of americans thing the tweets are distracting and zrakts from his agenda. but i think one thing we've
learned from donald trump as president is he's not trying to unite this condry. we're used to the normal. he's always tried to unite and bring together the people who lost andsert of bring everyone into a big tent. that's not what this president is about. this president is playing to a base and not even trying to use the media as an intermediary, trying to use us to sell ideas. and i think that's what's gone wrong with these press briefings other than to go onto defend donald trump's tweets like with mika bruswrengsky. and that is of course getting in the way of an agenda that's supposed to include jobs, health care, and other thing donald trump promise. >> james, i'm going to play a clip for you and we'll discuss
it on the other side. but sometimes in life it's good to have reverend sharpton come along and look at it describe it in his own unique way as he did this afternoon. >> the frightening thing is he's sitting there with the president of south korea there. we're under a real questionable threat with north korea, and he's tweeting lies about mika? we're dealing with a health care bill, we're told by the cbo 22 million can lose their health care, and he's fighting with mika and joe? that's what's frightening. >> james, the man makes a lot of sense right there. and how long until what reverend al just expressed becomes kind of a mainstream belief or criticism or does it? >> look, we have a lot of people trying to interpret what is the true mental state of donald trump or what game is he playing. look, i don't know what's going
on with his head. what i do know are his actions and what he's tweeting about. what he seems focused about is this feud with the morning joe host than more on the situation with north korea to make al sharpton's point or more is he is on the health care bill. kellyanne conway talked about how the media isn't focusing on the important issues, well neither is the president. we have the president giving a very good statement, talking about every member, those in washington come together and have good intentions and we need to elevate the public discourse. he's the one that just lowered it. >> ashley, a two part question for you. i know you can't be with him nor would you want to all the time, what is your sense to truth to
power ratio and the circle around this president, depending how big or small that circle is, and take on the added aspect of the national inquirer today, which kind of changed the conversation a little bit. >> sure. well, it sort of depends for the truth to power ratio. but i do think there is a myth around this white house that there is no one who will stand up to the president and say no. and that i can tell you is not true. there are people who will tell him i don't think this is a good idea. just to take for example his tweets. his lawyers have told him not tweet. reince priebus has told him not to tweet. any number of friends, aides, confudants have given him pretty stark advice. the issue is he doesn't take that advice, that truth to power in any actionable way if he disagrees with it. as for the national inquirer that's sort of another
interesting wrinkle. you know, when you're having this fight over the president attacking women based on their physical appearance, which is something he did all throughout the campaign and wasn't a problem for him, just to add in a, a tabloid, and b, something potentially blackmail or trying to extort something from these hosts. and, again, it's a he said, she said, and we don't quite know the truth. and today it should have been focused on health care, energy, should have been focused on jobs. >> and this was the guy who told us he was going to be so presidential. well, he certainly did promise that. i mean this is not what most people have expected or experienced presidential as past. joe scarborough and mika basically used the term he has an unhealthy obsession for your
show. i think you can extend that to say he has an unhealthy obsession with the media. as much as donald trump says fake media, fake news, there's no president in history who has paid as much attention to the media than this president. i think we can pretty much say that's a fact. and it's almost like kellyanne conway says we shouldn't do armchair analysis, but there is this obsession with the media. and it's like wanting this constant adulation, wanting attention from an ex, and saying come on, come on because they're not always heaping praise on you. this is how it really comes across, and that's not the job of the media. the job of the media is to tell truth to power and tell the facts and it's not our job to stroke the president's ego no
matter what party they come from. >> i just did some quick math, 241st birthday of the u.s., and an odd feeling, that is kind of an anxiety in the air, a state of not being sure of what's to come and what just happened. >> that's right. i think one thing that is definitely defined, this age of trufrm if you would include the campaign or just the presidency is that everything appears to be up for grabs. the american democracy appears to be up for grabs, the institutions that make it up, whether it be the different branches of government, whether it be this is the way we stalk to each other, including the media into that. everything seems to be up for grabs, and it contributes to this moment of anxiety this country has had. and before this president we obviously saw a lot of economic anxiety that were rooted in very
real things. but now we're discussing things you assumed you couldn't cross that line and now we're cross lines every day. when we come back, speaking of real thing, something so very real to many millions of americans, and that's health care. the president's latest take on health care, repeal it now. worry about that replace part, perhaps later. we'll talk about all of it when we come right back on "the 11th hour." the future isn't silver suits and houses on mars,
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replace plan i'm writing a letter to the president this morning urging him to call on us to separate them. every u.s. republican in the senate except for one has already voted for repeal in the past. let's do that first. if we can't do them together, let's do as much repeal as we can. >> well, more about that in just a moment. that was was republican ben sass calling for a special summer working session in the senate. and further this notion obamacare can be repealed first and then they can worry about replacement. you'll recall the president upon taking office said, quote, nobody knew health care could be so complicated and seemed genuinely surprised. perhaps because starting as a candidate he assured us this process would be fast and easy. >> and there's going a be a period if you repeal it and before you replace it where
millions of people -- >> we'll do it simultaneously, it'll be just fine. i know how to do this stuff. it'll be repeal and replace. it will be essentially simultaneously. it will be various segments, you understand, but will most likely be on the same day or the same week, but probably the same day. could be the same hour. >> all righty then back with us. ashley parker and james penda pendadll. >> so, ashley getting back to this idea saying nothing of trying to explain to the american people what you're doing. >> well, the irony is this was an idea right after the election repeal and replace. and it was the president himself
who said that clip you just played. we're going to do it simultaneously, americans are never going to be without health coverage. and for him to turn around and go back on it, it's gets gets to that underlying truth as many complaints as there are about obamacare, it is very hard to take something away from people that they already have. and many of them when push comes to shove already like even if they don't like the president who gave it to them. again, this comes down to what he always wants at the end of the day is a deal. he held a rose garden ceremony for the bill that passed the house. although he didn't think it was a great bill. he thought it was a little bit mean. but again they wanted to deal last week, and this a another way he's looking for sort of a win and getting somebody done. even if it's not what he promised on the campaign and
even if it's not something he actually wants. >> our double daily also comes from the 4:00 p.m. show. she had on the chief of staff today, asked about the possibility of passage of something in the senate. here's that exchange. >> i think ultimately he's sign what republicans in the senate are able to get votes for -- >> so what he's for is whether they can get 50 votes. >> what they're for is if they can repeal and replace obamacare. >> imagine hardworking americans tonight, 22 million of whom now have the fear of god in them that coverage is going to bow yanked out from under them. we call them intitles because people are entitled to these benefits after they've been grand fathered in. nothing this large has been taken away from the american people before. and whatever the standard being
whatever mitch mcconnell can get one for. >> it's not going to be easy. he's got five centers on the republican side who have already said they're not going to sign-on to the republican health care bill as it is. that's why he had to postpone the bill on it and had to postpone it after the july 4th recess. so i don't think it's going to be easy to get those 50 votes. and also kentucky who thinks this needs to go further -- even if they don't like the president who gave them that care, they have greatly increased their headache. and this is across pap las vegasa. so you have a lot of people in states like west virginia, ohio, who are going home and recognize their constituents do not want
their health care taken away from them. and we all know the story about the guy who was complaining about blood alcohol content, it's terrible, it's terrible. and someone else was like you have obamacare, and he was like no, i have the aca. so a lot of people don't understand it's obamacare, and they want to get rid of it. so i think they're going to be hearing some hard realities particular from medicaid coverage. >> say nothing of what can happen to rural hospitals, but that's going to be the subject of another night. james, i have something for you to react to. ten centers sent a letter. quote, our current senate calender shows, are you ready for this, only 33 potential working days remaining before the end of the fiscal year. this does not appear to give us
enough time to adequately address the issues that demand immediate attention. james, you're with us from the bay states, so i'll localize this. go find the guy that's working in an auto shop all day and ask him what he thinks about the senate working calender and ask him what he thinks they should do for health care and his family. >> well, they know what's going to happen in that august recess. it's 2009 all over again when democrats went back home for their town hall meetings to talk about the affordable care act, they got slammed. so it's not a surprise a number of these centers do not want to go home, and they want to have the appearance they're trying to fix something. >> our thanks to our panel. ashley, you particularly had a great week journalism-wise. and we can't thank you enough for being on late heading into another one of these weeks. thanks to all three of you.
hour." ahead of president trump's meeting of vladimir putin's meeting next week, european officials apparently have some major concerns. european officials saying they have intelligence thinks vladimir putin can extract major concessions from president donald trump when the two meet for the first time. with us the editor at large for the atlantic, our friend steve clemons. steve, thanks for coming on. >> thanks for having me on, brian. >> normal it up for us to start with. by that i mean normal times, normal kind of circle around the president. when will the briefings begin going into a meeting like this? this are called bilapse. would a bileteral like this be happening at the g20? would it be happening earlier? what kind of a prep would a
president get? >> it would be taking place with all sorts of kaucaveats. so russia is part of the g20. and there are all kinds of concerns about russia, what they're trying to get from the united states and what interest the strategic objects the united states may have. working through those decision making, through those agencies that surround the president to help guide him and give him options on what to do. none of that to my knowledge has really happened in-depth. to the point where h.r. mcmaster has admitted publicly that the president is pretty much going to call his own shots in this. so he's admitted it. you go back in history, between this very first meeting between jfk and crushov.
and he saw someone unexperienced, and that became the track for the united states. and many people are worried that donald trump is going to repeat that history, send a message of weakness about what the administration wants. and i'll tell you one another thing, the big worry that europe has, the big strategic advantage that russia has today is split the alliance. while donald trump wants to achieve something with them, they meant he's saying to europe, no climate deal, no trade deals. and he's being very rough on our allies at the same moment he's trying to achieve objectives with russia. >> part profile of our president
that's been written about and talked about is susceptible to flattery, susceptible to attention. and perhaps for our viewers underscore just how kg a guy vladimir putin is. >> well, there is a wonderful book about vladimir putin written by fiowna hill that describes the many different putins. putin is the case officer. putin is the guy running the country. you know, putin has never really left the role according to fiowna hill who ironically now works for donald trump in the national security office. so hopefully he's spent some time with her. that would be the best thing he could possibly do to understand putin will do anything he can to flatter donald trump and to, you know, lay railroad track for donald trump's vanity and try to seduce him in that way. and i think that's a real big problem. you know, john carry used to get criticized in the iran negotiations by europeans for appearing too eager, for wanting
a deal too much. and that is the fear many people watching donald trump with his first meeting with vladimir putin, he looks too eager. and that's playing into hands at least percep wale right now. we could be wrong. he could walk out of this and sucker punch vladimir putin especially on what's happening in syria, especially on the weapons front. but that's what has a lot of people concerned. this is not a minor relationship. it's a strategic relationship. donald trump doesn't seem to care much about that. >> superbly put. this is why we keep inviting you on. steve clemmens, thank you so much on this friday night for this preview of what we're all going to be witnessing next week. coming up after our next break george will tries to make sense of another week that was.
and welcome back to friday edition of "the 11th hour." to get some perspective out of everything we have seen out of washington and this white house during this past eventful week earlier this evening i spoke with msnbc contributor george will. we started with our conversation as you might imagine, with the president's twitter fight. george, i'd like to begin with this week's twitter dust up, as ugly and hateful as it was and of course it involved a member of our family here and a friend to many of us. was it a distraction in the end or is it germane because of what it says about character? >> it's both. the president does like to change the subject, and he uses twitter to do that. now, i think that's preferable to him using, say, missile attacks or a nice little war on
the korean peninsula. but it does seem to be tackical. it seems tit to not be just a failure of impulse control. >> the president's houseguest, the leader of south korea and health care with all of washington moving out to their home states and districts, all the elected representatives, these two subjects loom large. but again, there's a laundry list of things behind them. >> it is. it's hard to know what the members going home are going to hear from their constituents. because the constituents are in the process of changing their minds. first of all, the republicans seem to have done something that barack obama for all his trying and rhetorical powers, were was unable to do, they seemed to
have made -- more popular. we're largely in the realm of splittable differences. the one thing to watch, i think, is a measure put in that bill by senat senator tumy of pennsylvania. it would over an eight year period begin to restrain the growth of the medicaid program. that will cause difficulties within the republican caucus. but it is of such importance. by the way, it's importance is not of its part of repealing obamacare. the importance is it's the first time republicans have really started to make good on their attempt of intitlesments, which ifinate reigned in are going to swallow the budget. >> are you concern said about the president's lack of ideology
or granularity or some would say involvement on this issue? >> the problem is he doesn't know what he's talking about. i think it may be that the president's pristine absence of knowledge about health care may help at this point because he doesn't have strong feelings, and he can't really get in the way of those mr. portman say on one side and mr.tumy on another who have strong convictions. so in this sense the president being out of it is probably a good thing. >> how do you think health care turns out and when do you think pen goes to paper at the white house t
house? >> well, remember let's just assume mr. mcconnell can get 50 votes with pence breaking the tie, it goes back to the house. the house had a very difficult time putting together a small and fragile coalition to send their bill to the senate, which the senate then rejected. that means we go to conference. and it's not at all clear to me that anything that can satisfy the senators in the conference can hold together the fragile coalition in the house, particularly the members of the mark meadows freedom caucus. so this is a very long way from reaching the president's desk. by the way, the president has said in the past that a single perry system works quite well in other countries. with the unlikely event this happened with the single paris system, i think he'd sign it in a heartbeat. >> i think we'd hear from the applause from australia all the way to washington.
ronald reagan famously zwroeked the bombing begins in five minutes. george bush was picked up using the word a, double s. >> people caught on open mic were caught saying things they didn't want the people foohear. twitter catch said people saying look at me, look at me. mr. obama said tell vladimir when i'm reelected, i'll be more flexible. the question is what are we going to make of president trump with mr. putin? a national security advisor, a serious advisor serving with mr.
trump says mr. trump attends to go in with no agenda. well, putin will certainly have an agenda. if henry kissinger were going without an agenda, it would be one thing. for mr. trump to do that, that sounds exciting in the worst sense of the word. >> it's always a pleasure. thank you so much. >> glad to be with you. and coming up tonight why one republican official told some trump officials to go jump in the gulf of mexico. that when "the 11th hour" continues.
in this country who say that voter info like social security numbers is confidential. of course some object to the formation of this commission in the first place. the whole idea for it came about after false claims that millions of illegal votes had cost donald trump the popular vote. mississippi's republican secretary of state said of the commission, quote, they can go jump in the gulf of mexico. we'll take that as a no. there was also a report this week on the growing frustration being felt by the secretary of state who presides over the state department of a slew of department heads. politico reports it came to a head at the white house. they're reporting under the headline tillerson blows up at top white house aide. it goes onto say, quote, white house attempts to push border on
hiem. for all of it, we are joined tonight from a journalist. he is white house commonnist at the hill. so first thing first, the voter fraud commission, its lineage not only its purpose of being but how much they all want from these states, one of which now told them where to jump. >> that's exactly right, brian. and it's caused even republican secretaries of state to object to the this. once you have lost the republican secretary of state in mississippi, if you're a republican president or republican presidential panel, that's probably a bad sign. and i think it does go in fairness to traditional conservativism, where there has
been skepticism about government infringement on personal privacy. and that's really why there is bipartisan push back on this proposal at the moment. >> under the subject of tillerson and all things foreign policy. a busier than average time is coming from for him on the g-20. but on the tillerson coverage, you can pick your sides. i saw coverage critical of him this week. i saw coverage that said diploem osnow dies. when will rex exit the trump administration if ever. and then we've seen this writing about tillerson's frustration that so many posts are lying, vacant and ergo dormant at the state department. >> so there are two points here, brian. people who i speak to at the state department has certainly
been dismayed on the trump's administration's stance on these issues, and of course rex tillerson is the head of that department. i think what we've seen it a volcano that has been smoking for some time finally erupting over this matter of personnel. but there's been a lot of embairsments hosted upon rex tillerson. he pushed for the president to reassure nato leaders at a speech at nato headquarters. he did not. and most embarrassingly i think for tillerson, he tried to de-escalate tensions pertaining to the gulf nation of catarrh only for the president to come out within hours and restate his charge that catarrh was involved in harboring or nurturing terrorism. this is not the behavior that the former ceo of exxonmobil has been accustomed to.
>> which has been pointed out a company that's kind of a traveling nation state on its own. and finally on the border wall, know you don't work for the administration, but can you look into the thecome raw and tell people this is actually going to be funded and built, what then is this prototype operation we're reading about? the prototype operation is something which the administration has gotten over $20 million to build these prototypes. that's nowhere near the sum of money that's needed to build the actual wall. that could be anywhere from $15 billion to $17 billion. even republicans in congress are balking at that kind of expenditure. >> nile, we're going to try to stay with this at you and other journalists. there's so much to record keep
on from the epa to the department of education, from the pentagon to aircraft and aircraft carriers and all of it. but thank you so much for joining us from capitol hill on a friday night. our favorite export from bellfast. appreciate it very much. as summer begins we turn our eyes skyward when "the 11th hour" continues. ♪ work up a sweat during the day, not at night. tempur-pedic breeze
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mentioned with summer upon us, a preview of the summer sky. and as seems to be the case with a lot of our news of late, the russians are going to play a role. there are reports a russian satellite will be launched in a few weeks to become the fourth brightest object in the sky, ranking only behind the sun, the moon, and venous. it will do this by unfurling a huge mylar film designed to catch the sunlight, and thus will stand out in the night sky as it orbits 370 miles above us. watch this space for updates, which somehow brings us down-to-earth to carbon dale, illinois. during the eclipse in august which there are building the great american eclipse, the moon will block out the sun and day will briefly turn tonight.
as "the new york times" put it, the temperatures will dip, birds will go quiet, and all the while a halo will emerge in the sky. the place with the longest predicted duration of darkness you see there is going to be carbon dale, illinois, where they're going to be plunged into the carkness for 2 minutes, 38 seconds. carbon dale is apparently reported to be overwhelmed by members of the eclipse community. they and we have time to prepare for this. the eclipse is august 21st. the next one is in 2024. and a star is going dark over canada. peter mansbridge has signed off for the nightly newscast the national. after 20 years behind the desk, 50 years in the business, he leaves as the longest serving current network these anchor in
north america. he's also a wonderful man to boot. peter, happy trails. congratulations. you leave with the atucks and respect of all of your colleagues. so many of us down here at your neighbor to the south. wherever you plan to spend the weekend and the nps holiday, travel safely. that is our broadcast for tonight and for this week. thank you for being with us. good night from nbc headquarters in new york. >> tonight on all in, russia, if you're listening, i hope you're able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing. >> the question of collusion, new theories about michael flynn's role, and links to russian hackers. >> if russia or china or any
other country has those e-mails, to be honest with you, i'd love to see them. then states fight back as the administration asks for voter information. >> let's find out how significant >> now, the white house accused of trying to coerce the cable news hosts. >> if you call the president up and apologize for your coverage, then he will pick up the phone and basically spike this story. >> and the health care bill in serious trouble, as the white house suggests repail, not replace. >> the president hasn't changed his thinking at all. but we're looking at every possible option. >> all in starts right now. >> good evening from new york, i'm chris hayes, in one week, president trump will meet for the first time in person, with russian president vladimir putin