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morning on -- >> what was that? >> attacked. >> loving nugis. >> you gave him a nugie? is this 1979? >> all right. >> okay. we've got to go. >> anyhow, tomorrow is a big morning. we'll see president trump come face-to-face with vladimir putin as they arrive at the g-20 summit in hamburg, germany. it should be a fascinating morning. that does it for us for now. chris jansing picks up the coverage right now. >> thank you. there has been a few things going on. i'm chris jansing in for stephanie ruhle. a lot of news breaking overnight starting with that tough talk. president trump overseas, one day away from that meeting with vladimir putin with some of thiz strongest language yet. >> we urge russia to cease its destabilizing activities in ukraine and elsewhere. >> and yet he took yet another swipe at the intelligence agency's reports that russia meddled in the election. >> i heard it was 17 agencies.
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we did some very heavy research. it turned out to be three or four. >> escalating tension. the president with a warning to north korea after its latest missile test. >> some pretty severe things that we're thinking about. they are behaving in a very, very dangerous manner and something will have to be done about it. plus, rallying allies in the battle against terror. >> the fundamental question of our time is whether the west has the will to survive. president trump on this iz way to the summit right now preparing for the highly anticipated meeting with russian president vladimir putin. but not before making some explosive remarks about russia's election interference a short time ago in poland. we've got the best team in the business to break it down. first to nbc's peter alexander in warsaw. peter, good morning. >> reporter: hey, chris.
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good day from here in warsaw where president trump now heads off to the g-20, his mind heavily focused on tomorrow's one-on-one, his first face-to-face meeting with russian president vladimir putin. today the president taking an opportunity to deliver a shot at hissed ed adversary in moscow s of putin and raqqah he's urging them to cease their destabilizing activities as he described them in places like ukraine and syria. during a speech to thousands of poles, the president said in part that russia should join the community of responsible nations. earlier today during that brief news conference bymy colleague hallie jackson posed a question to him about moscow's meddling in the 2016 election. white house aides have yet to say whether the president will raise that issue during his conversation with putin tomorrow. here's part of that exchange. >> will you once and for all, yes or no, definitively say that russia interfered in the 2016 election? >> well, i think it was russia and i think it could have been
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other people and other countries. barack obama when he was president found out about this in terms of if it were russia, found out about it in august. he did nothing about it. they say he choked. well, i don't think he choked. i think what happened is he thought hillary clinton was going to win the election and he said let's not do anything about it. he thought the other way, he would have done something about it. >> reporter: that news conference of course preceding the president's 36-minute speech with the white house's billing a major address to the people of poland which could be described as a rallying cry for western civilization. the president saying in part defense of the west ultimately rests not only on means but also on the will of its people to presail, adding the fundamental question of our time is whether the west has the will to survive. the president will get a realtime reaction to that speech when he arrives in hamburg, germany, this afternoon, one of his first stops, a one-on-one
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meeting with german chancellor angela merkel. chris? >> should be interesting. peter, thank you. i have an incredible panel this morning. rick tyler, political analyst, then a former spokesperson to the u.n., and former treasury spoex perp, michael leiter, msnbc's national security analyst. so much to talk about. rick, we saw yet again the president deflecting essentially when hallie asked him that question. why won't he just unequivocally say russia did it? why does he keep downplaying that? especially ahead of this meeting. doesn't he want to come off as strong? >> it makes no sense. he is in warsaw and it is warsaw that was -- it was the warsaw pact of 1955 that was the count ter n counter to nato. his trip to poland sends a strong message to russia because it represents the defeat of the former soviet union, poland does, because it was once occupied by russia. and this whole thing about 17 and 3, doesn't matter, the dia
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represents the 17 and there are superstorm sandy three strong agencies. just say they interfered with the election, knock it off. that's what obama said. >> let me play that part of it. >> it's also inconsistent because he's undermining our own intelligence agency while on foreign soil, not a good idea, but at the same time he's saying obama did nothing about it, legitimacy. which is it? >> also that also isn't correct and we'll get to that. let's play exactly what he had to say about the intelligence agencies. i heard it was 17 agencies. i said, boy, that's a lot, do we even have that many tlgs agencies? let's check it. and we did some very heavy researcher. it turned out to be three or four. it wasn't 17. and many of your compatriots had to change their reporting or had to apologize or correct. with that being said, mistakes have been made. i agree, i think it was russia but i think it was probably other people and/or countries and i see nothing wrong with that statement.
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nobody really knows. >> there's so much to unpack there, including "nobody really knows." yes, your intelligence community says they do know and how much heavy research does it take to find out how many intelligence agencies you have working for you as president of the united states? what heavy research did they do? >> yeah. just count the seals around the director of national intelligence. it really is a red herring on the president's part. not all of the intelligence agencies deal and specialize with things such as russia hacking. so you don't really care what the coast guard intelligence agency cares about, does and says about this. they're really important for other thing bus not this. all of the intelligence agencies have looked this, the cia, dia, nsa, then overseen by the director of national intelligence have all said the same thing, confidence that russia severe weather feared. there was disagreement about why but even that has gone away. as rick said, the meaningful
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piece is when you're in warsaw giving that speech, when you need the world to trust u.s. intelligence on matters of russia, on north korea, on other issues around the globe, that's not the time to take cheap and ultimately misleading swipes at the intelligence community. >> and at the same time, why does he keep looking back? talking about obama did nothing. first of all, he's not president anymore but he did eject 35 intelligence operatives, and he did other things so you can't say he didn't do anything. you could argue about whether he did enough. there certainly is an argument by democrats about whether he pursued it publicly enough. but why is he doing that? >> i think it's a distraction. i think it's an effort to avoid addressing this issue head on, and i mean i agree with rick completely that the day before you're about to meet with president putin, you want to appear strong. you don't want to undermine the
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intelligence community. you want to be a force to be reckoned with. that's not the message he conveys if he's being wishy-washy about the issue. he did talk about one other issue. >> america is committed to maintaining peace and security in central and eastern europe. we're working with poland in response to russia's actions and destabilizing behavior. >> he did acknowledge the destabilizing behavior we've known about for a very long time with russia. the question is what is he prepared to do about it? >> the great juxtaposition is off script donald trump, on script reading speeches president trump prepared by hi team. they understand how destabilizing russia has been. i think what he should be willing to do and his next address to the g-20 should suggest is strengthen that bond with nato, reaffirm u.s.
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leadership against russian interference, and just saying those words as he did in the later g-20 summit, critically important. that is important to give them the confidence, give angela merkel the confidence, theresa may the confidence and the rest of western europe the confidence we're not shirking our responsibilities of leading this organization that has countered russia and earlier the soviet union for more than 60 years. >> you can see what his message was to them now. he struck out the article 5 reinforcement in brussels. >> much to the shock of many of the people around him. >> but to say thee are -- i'm not going to say this to these people who aren't keeping their 2% commitment, minimum gdp spending in nato, i'm going to go to poland where he forcefully said it this morning. >> let's play that. let's play it. >> the united states has demonstrated not merely with word but with its actions that we stand firmly behind article
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5, the mutual defense commitment. >> how much does that help him or will european nations look at it, hagar, and say we don't know which to believe? i think he came off credibly on that point. he flip-flopped before his campaign but once president trump dived into foreign policy issues and realized how valuable nato was, i think he realized it was a tool he could use to benefit his own national security interests and once he realized that i think he was happy to jump on board. >> now he goes to meet with many of those nato nations and others in the g-20 and, you know, we've got this new poll out from pew. it shows mexico and canada have lost confidence in trump. 22% and 5%. 11% of germans, 14% in france, japan 24%. who has the most confidence in him? russia and israel at 53% and 56%. how does that shade his upcoming meetings with allies?
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>> i think it's pretty clear the president likes to speak to people who like him. and that's pretty natural. but europe and other countries in the world have had down times with individual presidents. i worked for president bush. he was not always the most wildly beloved president in american history overseas. that being said, they always had confidence in america's word, america's alliances, and american leadership. so i don't think the president no matter what he says at the g-20 he's going to reverse all of those numbers. but the question is can he reinforce the pieces that are so important for western european security and u.s. security and prosperity and then get their backing to address some of the really difficult nuts he has on his plate, syria, north korea, and elsewhere. >> in no way would i underplay the importance of this meeting with president putin, but there are a lot of other meetings that are going to be going on at this g-20. let's talk about angela merkel.
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let's talk about xi. they're critical. this isn't just a one-shot deal here. >> that's right. no. i think that, you know, to follow on to michael's point, there is here -- the president will use whatever tools he has at his disposal to achieve whatever goal that is. it could be completely unpredictable as we'll see over the next four years. it will be wishy-washy, and i think that's why you see those countries not having strong faith in him, because he may say this now, that he supports article 5, that he supports nato, and i think he means that. but that could change in six months if his interests change. >> all right. we have you guys coming back. up next, president trump responding to north korea's first test of an intercontinental ballistic missile, calling the rogue regime very, very dangerous. but will he be able to get the international community to take action? plus, heated over health care. protests, even arrests, as republicans hold town halls. we have the latest on those. girs girs broke into a house owned by three bears. she ate some porridge, broke the baby bear's chair,
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we have some pretty severe things we're thinking about. they are behaving in a very, very dangerous manner and something will have to be done about it. >> that was president trump responding just this morning to north korea's recent test of an intercontinental ballistic missile. his statement coming during that joint news conference with poland's president duda. this morning trump also called on all nations to publicly demonstrate to north korea that there are consequences for their, quote, very, very bad behavior. i want to bring in gordon chang, author of "nuclear showdown: north korea takes the world." rick tyler, hagar chemali, rick leitner. you have this combined with his tweet from earlier this week saying "does this guy have anything better to do with his life?" what does all that mean? >> that was a very flippant tweet and it was inappropriate
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because you have to put it in context. you know, on january 1st, kim jong- jong-un, the ruler of north korea, says we're going to launch an ickntercontinental ballistic missile. on january 2, president trump said it wouldn't happen. but it did. it was not appropriate at that time because it was serious. this was an icbm. it does threaten the united states and trump needed to be much more serious about it because he has these series of meetings coming up and he needed to convey that to china, russia, and the eu. >> and he did it on the 4th of july. what does the north want besides keeping its nuclear arsenal? >> they want deterrence but the other thing, probably, once they have a fully developed arsenal, they'll use it for blackmail, to try to extort the south koreans and use the blackmail against us to try to drive a wedge between seoul and washington. this is going to be incredibly dangerous and it's going to come pretty soon. so president trump has very
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little room for error in dealing with the north koreans because he's got a lot to do in very little time. >> and the apgss aren't good, michael. he said this morning that he won't talk specifically about what he's going to do, but he made an indication that there's some very serious things that are on table, but, you know, diplomacy, obviously, hasn't worked, none of the options really is good. if you do a surgical military strike, everyone has said how catastrophic that could be. is that in a way what kim jong-un is counting on? >> absolutely. our options go from bad to horrendous. the military options are terrible, full scale war, tactical, more strategic, the repercussions for the 26 million koreans and americans and others who live within 50 miles of that border would be catastrophic. remember, this is someone who doesn't just have 14,000 ar till ti pieces but has chemical weapons, biological weapons and of course nuclear weapons. military i think we are boxed into a corner and we don't want to go down that path. i think the president
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strategically is in the right direction but it's a much tougher road to hoe in getting china to pressure north korea than he imagined it would be and i think anyone who's watched this for a long time knew it would be. >> i want to play what u.s. ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley said at the conference yesterday afternoon. >> make no mistake, north korea's launch of an icbm is a clear and sharp military escalation. their actions are quickly closing off the possibility of a diplomatic solution. >> which bring us back, hagar, to if there's not a diplomatic situation, what is there? >> i think -- and i know i've said this before, i know i come from the world of the treasury department so i love sanctions, i do think there is a lot of room left to impose sanctions on north korea, to isolate them further. >> a lot of people disagree with you. hasn't happened so far, hasn't had the kind of impact we predicted it would. >> that's for two reasons. first, they say that, one, because i don't think they
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realize how much room is left to isolate north korea. cuba is far more sanctioned than north korea. that's the first point. and i read in an article this morning, second, someone saying sanctions would not depose kim jong-un, but nobody is saying that sanctions would do that. the point of sanctions, is one, to prevent further financing of its proliferation program and, two, to help lead hopefully to successful diplomatic talks where some kind of deal could be hammered out, and that's what happened in 2006 out of the six-party talks. >> what are you hearing on the republican side, sflik how nervous are they? how confident are they about what the president plans to do, could do, will do? >> as he said, he doesn't want to talk about his plans. i think in many ways nikki haley's response sort of made up for the flippant reaction by the president. and i do think it's serious. if you have 90% of trade with north korea is through china, then the obvious first key is china. a lot of people say china holds a lot of our debt, well, that could be used as a leverage too,
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but we're china's best customer. we could make things very difficult for china very quickly. and i think we're at a point, we have to do that a. people say it's terrible for the economy. of course but losing americans is much worse. >> i agree completely. >> a lot more to talk about with this meeting at the g-20 and particularly pew tip. but up next, a new report says the president is dreading his meeting with german chancellor angela merkel. set for just hours from now. should he be nervous? the german ambassador to the u.s. joins me next. first, according to analysis from the american enterprise institute, a conservative think tank, the gender of the white house has more than tripled under the trump administration. women make 63.2 cents on every dollar for a man working in the white house. i know if the pain comes, i'm not gonna get my job done.
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welcome back. time for your "morning primer," everything you need to get your day started. the president is on his way to germany and expected to land in hamburg for the g-20 summit shortly. house majority whip steve scalise is back in intensive care this morning over concerns about an infection. he was shot in the hip last month when a xwunman opened fire at a congressional baseball
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practice in alexandria, virginia. hobby lobby has agreed to pay a $3 million fine and forfeit ancient artifacts smuggled into the u.s. from iraq. the doj says the company illegal hi had those millions of dollars worth of artifacts smuggled using false shipping labels. we've gotten new details on that gunman who shot and killed a new york city police officer early wednesday morning. he's 34-year-old alexander bonds, an ex-con out on parole, reportedly he ranted in a facebook video about officers killing and abusing people in prison and warning them to leave him alone. and united airlines back at the center of controversy this morning for giving away a 2-year-old boy's seat to a stand-by pass jer. the boy's mother says she was forced to hold her son for 3 1/2 hours of the flight. united airlines has issued an apology, saying they are working with the gate staff to prevent this from happening again. all right. we're less than three hours away from when president trump will meet with german chancellor
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angela merkel. merkel renews concerns about how much europe can rely on the u.s. nbc's norah o'donnell joins me from hamburg, germany. what are we expecting today? >> reporter: good to be with you from hamburg where the president will have stop two of his trip. and you set it up, with the meeting with angela merkel, the german chancellor, is high station and she has a lot of the power in this setting. she is the host of the g-20 conference. she is someone who has already indicated some of her frustrations with the trump administration and president trump on everything from climate change to trade and to the issues of migration. she is setting the agenda for the meeting here of the 20 big economies, 19 nations plus the european union, who are meeting here to talk about a lot of common interests at a time when president trump also has a very high-stakes meeting with vladimir putin tomorrow. but tonight belongs to angela merkel.
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and they've already had a somewhat icy, somewhat removed, somewhat setting up each other in terms of trying to gauge the strengths and the posture of each other as leaders. we've seen that play out certainly at the g-7 and then when angela merkel was at the white house, there was that moment where it appeared that everyone in the oval office could hear the call for the handshake, a tradition that is carried out again and again and again. there was no such handshake. that was sort of made up for later at the g-7 when the leaders were in sicily and president trump tried to make more forceful show of shake her hand and having a connection with the german chancellor. now this is her turf. the northern port city of hamburg is a place that as we have seen here with just the river traffic behind us cargo, touring, and ferry vessels streaming behind. there is a lot to say for angela merkel about her place as a prominent leader not only of
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europe but of free people around the world and she is someone who wants to really get the united states involved but at the same time has sent signals that were disstretressing in many ways th without the united states that the european powers are prepared to move forward on issues that matter most to them. they hope the united states will be involved but she has said isolationism, protectionism, are not things that will move the european and the global community. so expect some tension perhaps. we'll have to judge that, chris, when we see these two leaders face-to-face later today. marine one is already stationed at the airport in hamburg to receive president trump when he lands. chris? >> kelly, thank you for that. joining me now is german ambassador to the u.s. peter vidic. thanks for joining us. good morning. >> chris, a pleasure to be on your show. >> let me read what "the new york times" said about this meeting. i'm quoting them here. "mr. trump himself does not appear to be troubled by the meeting with vladimir putin. he has told aides he is more
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annoyed by the prospect of being scolded by the german chancellor, angela merkel, and other leaders for pulling out of the paris climate accords and for his hard line on immigration." is that the way you see it? is that a fair assessment of what's about to happen in this meeting? >> no, not at all. the two leaders, president trump and chancellor merkel, they have a very good and healthy and productive working relationship. they had a good meeting here in washington a couple of weeks ago. they were on the phone many, many times after that on all the issues of the international agenda. as a matter of fact, last monday, they had a meeting -- they had a telephone call together and the president assured chancellor merkel of his support for successful g-20 meeting. and i'm sure that will be the spirit when they meet in a couple of hours. >> and yet you cannot deny they're on very different pages when it comes to things like climate change about syrian refugees coming in.
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and here's what president trump had to say this morning about the administration's goal for trade. >> we want reciprocal trade relationships. we don't have too many of them. i said before that the united states has made some of the worst trade deals ever in history. that's going to change. that's going to change. >> so how does germany interpret a statement like that? >> well, we do have some differences on trade and on climate change, but this meeting in hamburg affords us with the really great opportunity. the leaders of the 20 most power eful economies in the world representing two-thirds of -- can rally around common positions on the world economy, on trade, on security challenges. indeed, there are some differences on trade, but we and
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the chancellor will do her very best to bridge our differences, to build consensus, to act as a mediator here. and i'm hopeful that this will be a very good outcome happening in hamburg. >> chancellor merkel according to the associated press told a german newspaper, and i'm quoting here, "while we seek chances to cooperate for everyone's benefit, globalization is seen in the american administration as a process which isn't about win-win situations but about winners and losers." strong words and not the first time that the chancellor has been critical of the president. now there's a poll done by pew just 11% of germans had at least some confidence in president trump. when you look at her words, when you look at those numbers, what are the concerns of your government and the german people that so few trust president trump? >> well, indeed on trade, our philosophy is that free, open,
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fair trade relations and a rule-based international economic order has benefited all of us in the last decades and has created unprecedented stability and prosperity in the world. now, we want to maintain and further develop that will trade order. we indeed think it's not a win-lose situation, it's a win-win situation. there are, of course, those who don't benefit of the globalization locally, regionally, either through unfair trade practices. we have defense instruments against unfair trade practices, for instance, in the past against china, dumping, et cetera. sometimes industries decline are not competitive. then the governments have to mitigate those social effects, but all in all, trade has benefited us all and that's our philosophy.
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so we have warned against protectionist, isolationist measures invoking national security interests in order to impose tariffs and quotas. that's not the right way. and i think the chancellor will mention that to the president, but let me say this again, we will be working for a consensus in hamburg and not isolate countries and not call out countries, but we will be a bridge builder here. >> so when the president goes into this and he is deeply up popular when you look at the polls throughout europe, and a lot of people have been questioning whether or not he is indeed the leader of the free world anymore, and i even heard those rumblings from german officials when president obama visited for the last time but president trump had been elected then, do you believe that the balance of power has shifted in the world? >> we are interested to have a strong american leadership in the world. this aligns with the u.s. for us is key.
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it's our most important ally outside europe. if the u.s. would be tempted to abdicate an international leadership, others would step in. there is no vacuum in international world affairs. others would step in. no, no. >> meaning chancellor america snell. >> no, no. i mean other global powers. germany is not a global power. it's a medium sized power. we should not overestimate our clout here. but we have an interest to forge a strong relationship with this administration and to encourage strong leadership under the u.s., and we have an interest in a strong nato and a strong western alliance, and we'll do anything to promote that alliance. >> ambassador, it was a pleasure talking with you, sir. thanks for your time. >> my pleasure. thank you. up next, just about 24 hours away from the first face-to-face
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blame russia for the election interference. does he enter into tomorrow's meeting already having cut putin a break? >> vladimir putin will approach trump tomorrow in his typical style when he first meets major foreign lead rs. he'll be trying to work out how vul treshl trump is to one of two things, how vulnerable is he to interim dais, how vulnerable is he to flattery. i think it's very important to look at how putin's behavior before when he's first begun to get to know major world leaders. when he first met former french president nicolas sarkozy, for most of the e equivalent meeting he hounded him and insulted him saying he would destroy him. only at the end of the meeting saying if he worked with him he could make him the king of europe. when he got to know former british prime minister david cameron, putin would use the meetings to insult and denigrate britain's place in the world, saying it was a small island nobody listened to anymore anyway.
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with angela merkel, he brought a huge black lab dor pet to sit next to him because he knew merkel was frightened of dogs. >> how does he go into this meeting? what is your expectation? we've been hearing from the white house that the president is going to kind of wing it, but has putin been looking at a psychological profile? how much research has he been doing? what's your expectation of how he goes into this meeting? >> vladimir putin is one of the most experienced statesmen in the worrell right now. this is his fourth u.s. president. vladimir putin was first meeting clinton when he was a sort of novs world leader. so he's been through these many, many times, and he will have done extensive research, reading psychological profiles of trump, dating back to when russian intelligence first started writing them sometime ago, like perhaps as early as the 1980s.
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putin will be going into this meeting really trying to work out where he can press, where he can -- try and get a sense of trump, you know, in person. how intelligent is he really? how stable is he really? how -- >> how stable he is? >> liable to fight back? this is how putin will approach any leader or world politician from the smallest russian provipial official to the leader of china or germany. it's nothing particular about trump. >> so when we look at trump, michael, where are his strengths and potential vulnerabilities? >> i think ben raised one of them. it's flattery. putin isn't just an experienced diplomat. he's an experienced spy case officer. >> a kgb spy master. >> exactly. this is someone who knows how to try to get someone to do what they wouldn't normally do. if i'm vladimir putin, and thank god i'm not, i would go in and
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say, oh, look at all the things we have in common, this crazy media, can you believe how awful they are? and these -- >> we've heard that today in conversations with duda. >> and it will be flattery and, oh, you have to understand the complexities, ukraine, no, they're really russian, they're not ukrainian. and i would never med until western elections. so i hope the president will go in having been fully briefed by his team with some really clear red lines. no meddling in western elections. we are going to hold your feet to the fire on ukraine. and now if we can get past those, let's partner for more of an end game on syria, because that's the place where russia has many of the cards. >> we know how members of the white house staff were glad this turned into a more formal meeting, but how much influence can they have in the middle of a meeting? >> it's enough the middle of a meeting. i think it depends on how much the president is willing to lp to his people, not just his team but certainly those who have
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been there, the national security council, the intelligence community, those who are there to brief him. i remember very well when i was at the white house, we used to do the same thing. we used to research in depth before these official meetings. they would take -- it was binders and binders of papers that our leaders and officials would read and a lot of prep would go into it. >> we know the president doesn't do that. he's been given stacks of papers and he says i want a page of bullet points. can you go into a meeting are with vladimir putin as michael rightly points out, kgb spy master, one of the most experienced leaders of any country in terms of dealing with other foreign leaders, on a series of bullet points? >> he might, but i think he's at a serious disadvantage. i think one of the things putin will want to tell him is that congratulations on winning the presidency, mr. president, it was an amazing victory and if somehow we interfered which we didn't, that would certainly undermine your election, wouldn't it?
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that will be something he'll say very clear hi. >> and something we know that gets under the president's skin. my panel, thank you all very much. also to ben, thank you. moments from now, president trump will be landing in hamburg, germany, for the g-20 summit. we'll have that for you live. but up next, senators home on break right now, but their constituents are making sure their voices are heard on health care. will contentious town halls change any votes? (woman) when you have type 2 diabetes, there's a moment of truth. and now with victoza®, a better moment of proof. victoza® lowers my a1c and blood sugar better than the leading branded pill, which didn't get me to my goal. lowers my a1c better than the leading branded injectable. the one i used to take. victoza® lowers blood sugar in three ways. and while it isn't for weight loss, victoza® may help you lose some weight. non-insulin victoza® comes in a pen and is taken once a day. (announcer) victoza® is not recommended as the first medication to treat diabetes
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you all on the hill are scaring the living daylights out of was the health care nonsense that you ear going. when you have that insurance companies can opt out of paying for health care, mental health care, then who's going to pay us to do that? >> that was senator ted cruz getting some tough questioning at a town hall held by concerned veterans for america, and cruz isn't the only republican senator facing opposition on health care back home. six people were arrested while protesting outside of pennsylvania senator pat toomey's town hall in harrisburg, and protesters are expected at hometown offices of five republican senators later today. despite the protests, though, the president currently oversees, the white house is ramping up its push to get a viable health care plan passed. msnbc's garrett haake is live in washington, d.c. nbc's kristen welker is at the white house. garrett, tell us more about what these senators have been facing as they're home nor the recess. >> reporter: chris, the vast majority of republican senators have not done sort of formal
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town halls over this break. they've essentially been avoiding their constituents' questions on this issue in part because they don't really have answers right now. this bill is being rewritten and rescored and it's very difficult for senators to come out and bi. without specifics to push back. there have been exceptions to that. bill cassidy, in louisiana, who wrote his own health care bill months ago, had a town hall and ted cruz, who has been pushing hard to have an amendment of his included in this new bill have been out there, trying to take questions and defend their ideas if not the broader gop bill. senators from both parties who have held town halls have run into very fired up, enthusiastic defenders of the aca. >> kristin, obviously the president is abroad. what is the senate doing to further the plan? >> reporter: they say the legislative team as well as the vice president still very much engaged in these negotiations
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over health care, trying to get this over the finish line. there's tremendous pressure to have a big legislative win for the president in his first year. when they left for recess a lot of questions about whether the senate health care bill could actually pass. ted cruz working on a possible amendment. they're looking at other potential fixes, other ways to give states more flexibility. one of the big egest sticking points was that 22 million americans could lose their health care. they're trying to deal with the backlash they got over that. the president's tweet before he left for his foreign trip not necessarily helping these negotiations. he tweeted out that republicans should focus on repeal if they can't figure out how to repeal
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and replace at the same time. i've been pressing both those inside and outside of the white house about whether this is a real option that they're looking at, a real plan b. they concede it is something that has been out there as part of the broader discussions. could they, in fact, repeal obamacare and then replace it further on down the line in a couple of years or so, to really have a benchmark for lawmakers, to give them more time to get something done that might be more appealing to those on both sides of the aisle? they do not rule that option out, chris. that is critical. they stress when the president gets back he will be focused on this primary option, trying to get this repeal and replace done in short order. one of the things that they are up against, a really tough timeline. once the fall hits they have to deal with some hard deadlines, like the debt limit. as you and i know, having covered the obama administration, that is something that they're going to have to contend with in the fall
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and that's a tough one. >> tough to say the least. meantime, garrett it's not just the republicans acting in a vacuum here. the democrats have really been out there. they have been holding their own town halls. they have been really firing up their base. they've been getting folks to call in to some of these congressional offices and senate offices. tell me more about that battle that's formed in the days off. >> obamacare fight from early in the obama administration know just how potent this issue can be. they know that people are fired up about it. they're taking the opportunity to hold town halls of their own, holding what they call empty town chair halls where a democratic senator or congressman parachutes into someone else's district to draw attention to this issue and protests in states. i want to play a sound of two senators, ted cruz and claire mccaskill, both of whom are up
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for re-election in 2018 and having to navigate this issue in very different ways. >> i'm answering it right now. >> one question at a time. >> look, i'm happy -- these are all good questions. i'm happy to have a conversation about it. >> house version and senate version, does anybody proudly support those bills? >> you heard claire mccaskill, does anyone in this crowd support this senate plan? >> i need to interrupt you. air force one is landing. let's go to kelly o'donnell. kelly, tell us about what his schedule is for the rest of the day as we see on our screen it's already almost 4:00 in the afternoon in hamburg. >> it certainly is. you're just seconds after wheels down for air force one. the short trip from warsaw, poland. this is the main set piece of this second foreign trip for president trump. the g20 summit, which brings
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together leaders of 19 countries and the european union. as air force one rolls toward where we know already the setup for the official welcome. there will be the flags of the nations involved. we've seen one of the marine one choppers is prepositioned there. certainly today what we expect is in a matter of a few hours, president trump will be meeting with german chancellor angela merkel, the host of this event. of course, this is her home country. she selected hamburg. and she, in many people's eyes, is one of the most forceful leaders on the world stage right now. and she is still in a new relationship with president trump. this will be their third time coming together. they've spoken by phone a number of times in addition to that. they have areas of great common interests but also some real disagreements in how they view the world. earlier, speaking before her parliament, she told the world, without naming donald trump, that isolationism, protectionism
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are causes of concern. she is not going to have an easy meeting, she suggested. the conversations here in hamburg, she expects, will be hard. that implied her relationship with donald trump and the president who will be joined by the first lady, melania trump. we expect a very friendly welcome as part of the host nation receiving the president of the united states. but when it comes to some of the actual meetings and conversations, there is also expected to be some tension. so, time with angela merkel today. then there's also a dinner this evening and the president will have what many people will be watching very closely tomorrow, his first face-to-face meeting with vladimir putin. and that, of course, could set a real tone for how the president can deal with vladimir putin in areas where there is some commonality, whether it comes to syria or trying to deal with north korea. but there are so many questions about how the president will
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handle himself in that moment, especially when just today we heard through the questioning of our colleague, hallie jackson, when we were asking about russian interference in the 2016 election, the president saying, yes, he believes it was russia but other countries as well. there is so much riding on this. high stakes for president trump. also for the german chancellor, angela merkel, who has really emerged in the minds of many in the west as perhaps a very strong counterpoint to donald trump at a time when issues related to migration, climate change, trade. these are can concerns that she has. so does the united states. but they're not in unison in the ways we've seen in the past. they're still very much in common but challenges as well. when air force one arrives anywhere in the world it is always quite a sight and certainly the german delegation has prepared a welcome for president trump and the first lady just a few moments from now. chris? >> kristen welker, in our final
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minute i spoke earlier to the u.s. ambassador -- the jegerman ambassador to the u.s., who tried to downplay the tension that might be between angela merkel and the president. on the other hand "the new york times" reporting that the president is much more worried about being scolded by angela merkel about climate change than he is about going into the meeting with vladimir putin. >> reporter: no doubt they're bracing for a tense meeting. you saw this backlash immediately when president trump nout announced he was pulling out of the paris climate agreement. chancellor merkel and leaders from elsewhere essentially saying the u.s. is failing to live up to its international commitments. wasn't showing leadership on this very critical issue and what was also striking at the time, chris, remember, president trump said we're going to try to renegotiate this deal. we're going to try to get a better deal. angela merkel and president
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macron, for example, of france said the deal can't be renegotiated. we're not going back to the bargaining table. so, i think that sets the backdrop for what will undoubtedly be a tense meeting. and as kelly was laying out, there's all sorts of disagreements on issues like immigration as well. so, i think that the president has been briefed. he has gotten a number of briefings heading into this meeting with angela merkel and the meetings with vladimir putin. in addition to all that have he will be meeting with the leaders of china, japan and south korea. he will really try to press them to turn up the heat on north korea. this say big, big test for the president's foreign policy. >> icbm test, that launch obviously making it far more complicated even than we knew it was going to be several days ago. thanks to you. thank you, kelly o'donnell. we are waiting for the president to deplane off air force one.
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i'm chris jansing in for stephanie ruhle. i'll hand it over now. >> thank you, chris. crucial g20 summit, air force one landing there in hamburg. just the second stop of his overseas trip. earlier this morning, of course, the president in poland, where he made several headlines while you were sleeping. first on north korea. president trump saying that the united states will confront north korea, quote, very strongly. he called on the world to recognize kim jong-un for what he is, a global threat, and also demonstrated there were consequences for his actions. secondly, the president acknowledging that moscow did interfere with the presidential election, stopping short, though, of saying it was just russia. president trump adding that he believes it could have been others as well. president trump then went on to go after president obama for


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