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hi, i'm richard lui at msnbc headquarters in new york city. president trump using twitter to talk about his time at the g20 summit in hamburg, germany. among the president's comments, his take on his meeting with russian president vladimir putin, saying, "the g20 summit was a great success for the u.s., explained the u.s. must fix the many bad trade deals it has made." also, "putin and i discussed forming an impenetrable cybersecurity unit so that election hacking and many other negative things would be guarded." the suggestion of teaming with russia has drawn immediate criticism this morning, though. >> i don't think we can expect the russians to be any kind of a credible partner in some cybersecurity unit. i think that would be dangerously naive for this country if that's our best election defense.
we might as well just mail our ballot boxes to moscow. >> russians pulled out the old playbook. i've seen all this going back to russian and soviet days. when confronted with something they've done wrong, ask for u.s. intelligence, old trick. propose a working group, in this case on cyber. but this is like the guy who robbed your house proposing a working group on burglary. >> nbc's kelly o'donnell at the white house with more on what has been said so far this morning. kelly, as we were talking about last hour, the president really reaffirming secretary tillers tillerson's read out, but other questions remain about, okay, what did happen? >> reporter: and it's one of the great mysteries at this point politically, because there was so much drama around this meeting, and when you hear the two presidents, putin and trump, spoke for two hours and 16 minutes, that's a lot of ground to cover, and there have been so
many questions about to what degree would president trump, if at all, raise the issue of russian interference in the election, so the fact that he and u.s. officials say that he began the meeting talking about that, pressing is the word they've used, to question and ask putin what did he do and try to find out more about that. the denial, of course, is what we're hearing back and at the same time we've got indications president trump wants to talk about other things that he believes were successful about his g20 trip and also this notion of working with russia on some areas of common interests. well, of course, that's longstanding u.s. policy to try to find some areas where they can work together. syria is one of them, but this idea of putting together a cyber unit is certainly raising some eyebrows, because of the obvious problem there, that there is interference, espionage, hacking, however you want to describe it, conducted by the russians at the direction of
vladimir putin, according to u.s. intelligence. so, why would he want to work together on that? the claim has been made that by working together that they could have some safeguards. well, we'll see about how that works out, if it actually even happens. one of those who is incredulous is lindsey graham, republican senator of south carolina, who long has strong feelings about russia. he's pushing for sanctions to have some punishment of vladimir putin. here's how he described the president's idea for a cybersecurity unit with russia. >> it's not the dumbest idea i've ever heard, but it's pretty close. he gave a really good speech in poland, president trump did, and had what i think is a disastrous meeting with president putin. nobody's saying, mr. president, the russians changed the outcome. you won fair and square, but they did try to attack our election system. they were successful in many ways, and the more you do this, the more people are suspicious
about you and russia. >> reporter: and so that suspicion is raised senator graham says by not being more forceful against putin, even wanting to turn the page, that that somehow allows people to still think there was something wrong. the trump administration has bristled at the idea that there was any underpinning that harmed the election not to the president's favor. again, you heard senator graham say you won fair and square, take that issue off the table and make it about russia interfering on democracy, regardless of party or candidate, especially with our midterm elections coming up in 2018 and elections in places like germany, which is in september. so concerns in europe, as well, about what the russians may be doing to meddle in elections. richard? >> kelly o'donnell at the white house. kelly, thanks for that. great warmup to our first panel. christopher dickey, msnbc contributor and world news editor at the daily beast and andy barnes, senior white house
correspondent at "the hill." chris, great to have you here in the united states. what was the readout, though? you always have your thumb on the pulse of what western europe is thinking. what is the take away out of the g20? >> well, you know, the standard take away is that trump was very isolated there. the united states was very isolated there because of the american position on climate change and the climate accord in paris, but you know, this issue of the russian hacking is also isolating him from the rest of the european and other members of the g20, because they are all very concerned that russia is going to try to do the same thing to their elections. one of the characteristics of the g20 and most of the g20 is that they are democracies. they are either full fledged democracies or trying to be democracies. the idea you can have the russians with impunity playing around, or worse than that, waging cyber warfare on democracies is very disturbing.
>> terms are odd couple, odd man out in terms of this relationship. amy, we've heard the commentary today about this cybersecurity unit, you've heard the white house saying this works out well, if you remember the nuclear war, they had the hotline, they had this tight knit group in case of such situations. is that -- either of these parallels understandable or workable? >> i don't know. both people i've spoken to over the weekend and today specifically are saying they are scratching their heads and going why on earth would they do this, this makes no sense, this keeps the conversation going, this is what we're talking about today. we're not talking about any successes that president trump had at the g20 summit, so i think what it does is it continues to escalate. the narrative keeps building, and you hear people like john mccain and lindsey graham, republicans, saying that this is probably the worst idea that the white house has come up with, and i think that's problematic
for them. >> chris, a week from now, how are we going to talk about the g20? is this going to be the rearview mirror stuff? >> richard, it's going to be like everything else. a week from now we won't even remember the g20 happened, at least in the turnover of headlines, the turnover of tweets and the turnover of outrageous things that we hear from the trump administration, but i think what we have to keep in mind, especially on this russian hacking issue, is that former fbi director mueller and his investigation is moving forward very deliberately and it's not dominated by tweets, it's not dominated by the kinds of headlines that people follow from moment to moment, and the more of this kind of thing they see, the more committed they will be to building a case that russia not only interfered in the american elections about which they had no doubt, but there was collusion between people in the trump campaign and russia. >> yeah, those who are watching
the checks and balances and minding, if you will, that fork, or watching what is happening as a result of this meeting with putin and trump. so, on that then, what chris is saying here, amy, there's a new report from "the new york times" on a russian lawyer linked to the kremlin meeting in june 2016 with the trump campaign, if you will, inner circle, allegedly. this has got to be part of what's going to happen on monday when senators return from all the various committees, four of them, that are looking into potential collusion with russians. >> right. and once again, this is going to continue forward, the weekend, the narrative of this cybersecurity unit and then this meeting that has been unearthed and people are going to say, you know, paul manafort, the campaign chairman was in on this meeting, so was one of donald trump's sons. this is part of the old drip, drip, drip, and it continues to get worse for the white house.
>> worse for the white house. part of this is -- i was reading some of the headlines now that we're a whole 24 hours since the end of the g20 here, chris, and that is that it's not only that the united states may be the one against the g19, but it may be now that some european countries are going to be purposely against the united states, if you will, and in very specific ways. >> i think when it comes to climate change they are very clear on this. both germany and france, two of the most powerful members of the g20, are adamantly opposed to the american position and, in fact, the final statement that came out of the g20 was very clear. okay, fine, you go off by yourself, we believe that climate change is real, the science is real, something has to be done about it, and we're going to move forward on that front. of course, we know there are individual states in the united states that have taken the same position, but it is -- when trump takes this kind of position internationally, it
doesn't just isolate him and his administration, it isolates all of the united states, and that's a very dangerous thing. >> does it isolate all the united states here, amy, is that the way it's seen in washington, d.c., and for that matter, the president may see this quote, unquote, isolationist headline as a win for him. >> oh, yeah, it's definitely playing to the base that felt like we weren't america first and this nationalist approach that he's taking is definitely -- i think that's why he's doing it more and more, you know, it's what he campaigned on, it's what his -- what the base wants, what the people who elected him want, so i think that's why he wants to do it, but it doesn't position us, i think a lot of people say, in the right way. angela merkel and others are saying okay we're going to go our own way if the united states isn't onboard, and that is also a problem going forward for the united states. >> yeah, richard, let's be real. they think in europe they think trump is either a fool, crazy,
or both. it may play to the base here in the united states, but that doesn't build much respect for the base here in the united states in the eyes of the europeans. >> do they see donald trump as being separate what america is? has that decoupled, if you know what i mean? >> no, in fact, america's leadership is in decline because of donald trump. america first is america alone, and in today's world, you can't really play the game that way. >> good to see you in person, chris dickey, thank you so much. amy, as well, have a good week. >> thank you, you, too. next, following an eight-month operation against islamic militants, a victory has been declared in mosul. what's next in the war against isis? plus, the conflict in syria and cease-fire are broken between the u.s., russia, and jordan that's now in its 11th hour.
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these are iraqi soldiers celebrating triumph over isis today in what had been one of the terror groups most vital strongholds, mosul. the fight is not over, with isis just holding under a square mile of territory, but prime minister al abadi declaring a big victory in a liberated city nearly nine months after the fight to regain control has began. the struggle has been heart breaking, though, just yesterday a video was released which shows officers rescuing babies from the last battleground in the old city. mosul has watched thousands die, nearly 1 million have been left without a home, as well. let's bring in retired colonel jack jacobs, congressional medal of honor recipient. question is, it seems like, if you will, victory, and we're
seeing again the arrival of the prime minister saying it's victory, but there are still, as was mentioned, some pockets to be taken care of. is it pretty much assumed, though, that will happen? >> yeah, i think so. it's going to take a little bit more time to get the rest of it, but one assumes that it's going to be completely taken after a while, but, you know, that's not the end of the story. there is -- there's a lot more to be taken, areas that are held by isis, and furthermore, as you know, it's lots easier to hold on to take an objective than it is to hold on to it. takes lots more resources and lots more time. lots of objectives have been taken and we lose them, the iraqis have lost them, so it's going to take more resources, more people, more time, and to paraphrase churchill, this is not the beginning of the end, it's probably the end of the beginning of the iraqis having a
lot more work to do, richard. >> colonel, that's the point you've made in many discussion you and i have had about iraq, about afghanistan, holding, right, and do we have the resources to hold that which is victorious in this case? and i mean, we the united states, as well as iraqi forces at this moment? >> yeah, well, you raise a significant issue here, what are we doing about it, sending more people there. we have thousands of americans there. we're going to send more and more resources, too. the question is whether or not the iraqis have the fortitude, the skill, the ability to hold on to what they've gotten. it remains to be seen. there's still a great deal of corruption, a lot more training that has to be done, but the conventional forces, we're doing it, by the way, conventional forces and special forces and special operations forces, all that's going to take a lot more time, a lot more money, and a lot more americans, so we're not out of there yet, richard. >> nearly a billion dollars at the pentagon will be given.
moving over to syria quickly, it's also losing ground there in raqqah, syria, as we've been watching some of the headlines. the president donald trump just saying moments ago via his twitter account this, "syrian cease-fire seems to be holding. many lives can be saved. came out of meeting good." appears he had a meeting of intelligence or related to out of putin, seems to be eluding to. your sense here, colonel, about what is happening, this idea of the cease-fire? >> well, the cease-fire is only in a small portion of syria, and there are so many moving parts in syria, not just the united states on the one hand and russia on the other. kurds are there, the syrian army is there, iran has people there. and so it's -- that's a situation in flux. as long as the united states and russia and others who are there are going to be working at cross
purposes to one another, and we are. we're on the other side of russia, syria -- russia, syria, and iran. as long as we're going to be butting heads over there, that thing is not going to be over. one question about isis is, whether or not they are going to be able to hold on to a caliphate. they are probably not going to be, but you're going to see in both syria and iraq an increase in terror and an increase in guerilla warfare. tough road to hoe in syria still. >> difficult, tooth paste, squeeze one end, more comes out the other end is what you're saying, colonel. >> not over. >> thank you. senator bernie sanders is hitting the road to rally against the republican senate health care bill. after the break, we're live in west virginia where he's trying to persuade the vote of republican senator shelly more capito.
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well, congress returns from the fourth of july break tomorrow on a monday to face the big issue of health care again. moments ago president trump said this, "for years even as a civilian i listened as republicans pushed the repeal and replace of obamacare, now they finally have their chance." senator bernie sanders fighting that very effort on the other side. he just wrapped up a rally in west virginia. his next stop is kentucky, home of mitch mcconnell. here's what the vermont senator told nbc's beth fouhy about the success of the affordable care act right in mcconnell's backyard. if you want to look at a success story for the affordable care act, it is the state of kentucky. >> and standing opposite of
senator sanders in that interview, live from morgantown, west virginia, beth fouhy. there you were, great get, by the way, again there, beth. give us a sense, spoke with senator sanders, who is a single payer advocate, certainly, but he was talking about, hey, we need to take small steps first, but the big question is, what are you hearing from folks on the ground? how are they talking about this republican senate health care bill? >> reporter: well, here in west virginia, richard, this is a state that went very heavily for donald trump in 2016, he won by 42 points over hillary clinton, so you've got this paradox. you have a very red state, went for trump, but also a state that is very poor, a lot of health issues, a third of the population here is on medicaid, so even though they supported trump, they definitely don't support losing some of the gains that they made under the affordable care act, obamacare, even if they don't like certain aspects of it, so this is what they are being confronted with now. do they get behind their
president who they voted for and supported and get behind this health care plan, which is going to kick a lot of people off their health care? we've talked to a lot of people here in this room at the rally you described in west virginia, probably several hundred here who came to see bernie sanders and they were very opposed to the republican health care plan, wanting to press the state's republic senator, shelly moore capito, who appears to be undecided, to stay firm and not vote for it. >> we got a sense, at least from the latest tweet, he's throwing it back on the senate in terms of get something done. i don't necessarily support what's happening right now. speaking of mitch mcconnell a second ago, he suggested, as you know, that if the bill doesn't pass the senate, if he does bring it up for a vote or squashes it for now, he will then work with democrats, and how might that work? >> reporter: well, i asked him that very question in my interview. senator mcconnell last week in his home state of kentucky sort
of mused about if this gop plan doesn't pass, he might have to work with the other side, and this is what senator sanders had to say. let's listen. >> senator mcconnell back in kentucky last week mentioned if his plan to push through this new legislation does not pass, he might have to move toward cooperating with the other side. >> oh, my god! imagine that. having to work with the other party. what a terrible thought. >> do you think he was sincere? >> who knows? but what i think has got to happen is we do have to take a look at the problems. we have to ask ourselves why we're the only major country not to guarantee health care to all people. why the costs in this country are so much higher per person, why prescription drug costs are so high. let's throw them on the table and involve people in the medical profession and work this through. >> yeah, so, you know, we've seen such an unprecedented level of partisanship, as you know,
richard, for the last several years and certainly the last several months since donald trump became president. maybe this is an opportunity for democrats and republicans to get together, share some ideas, come up with a plan that people can get behind, maybe not exactly what republicans want, maybe not exactly what democrats want, but really bring them to the table and do something on behalf of the people looking to the government to help them pay for and secure health insurance. richard? >> those people big fans also of you, beth, they were there supporting the interview. maybe senator sanders, too. >> very nice of you to say that. >> we're big fans here. thank you so much, beth. joining us now, msnbc political analyst and republican strategist, also democratic strategist. we have a lot to talk about here. let's start with you, rick, on this. the president just saying moments ago, he's really kind of pushing it back, isn't he, back on the senate, back on the house. hey, get something done. is it because he smells what i think mitch mcconnell is at least intimating that this is
not going to happen, the bcra, rick? >> well, that's right. i mean, right now you have the president and the majority leader in diametrically opposed strategies. mitch mcconnell knows better, so his comment about working with the democrats is twofold. one, he's telling the republicans in charge of the house and the senate that we need to get something done on health care, and, two, i really believe that mitch mcconnell would not allow aca to collapse, and when you have -- meaning that the market would become so unstable that, you know, insurers start pulling out, so he's going to look for a way to make sure that the insurance market stays stable. he is not going to allow it any chaos in the market that's going to affect people, because he knows if he does that, he's going to get blamed for it, and he can work a deal with the democrats. so i think that's where he's at, but also undermines the message of the republican party, the aca
is not fixable, and you have mitch mcconnell now saying that there is an available fix, so the republicans messagewise are in real trouble here. >> real trouble messagewise at least from what we're hearing, and when we look at what senator sanders was saying, peter, seems he was also -- beth asked him, are you going single payer, is that the objective, what democrats should be pushing for? and senator sanders said that's what we want, but let's go with the fixes first. you saw the signs they were holding up, right, improve, don't repeal. >> sadly, the facts of the political debate have nothing to do with the welfare of the people that the health care bill, whether it be the aca or the current republican bill addresses. there's two facts. one is democrats have 23 seats up in 2018, and two more that are independents that vote democratic, so 25 seats. this is all about both parties
jockeying to either increase their majority, mitch mcconnell and the republicans or democrats to very least try to minimize and that's the real tragedy here, so ultimately democrats have to be careful, because the aca has not delivered on the promises that obama and the senators made, but at the same time they've got to find a way to compromise and work with the republicans so they are not viewed as obstructionists, which is kind of ironic, since the republicans were the ones who were eight years declared we will never do anything or work with any democrat. >> as you look at this, rick, sanders really sounding like he was ready for compromise. that's what i was kind of hitting on, at least in the conversation with beth fouhy. if they are not, you know, does mcconnell actually go just for the repeal? >> well, of course, democrats want to compromise, because they have no power on their own. mitch mcconnell is actually in a fairly advantageous seat, as peter said, because the
elections in 2018 are so lopsided. i think the republicans are defending, i think, eight seats, on the other side the democrats are defending lots and lots of seats. mitch mcconnell can't afford to lose any more republican seats. he's got 52 now, and as we know, this bill as it currently stands is not going to get 50 votes, probably wouldn't get 47 votes. so i don't know, you know, he's in a real conundrum. either leaves it alone or works with the democrats to fix it, but i think there's no possibility of repeal or this current bill passing. >> peter, what are you looking for come monday? because it's possible this week we may get a couple more cbo scores on other versions of the bcra, and might those need more palatable based on potential scoring? >> no, i think rick's absolutely right. i think mcconnell has dug deep in his goody bag, he's pulled out all the candy he can from the republican side.
now he will dig deeper into the goody bag and find some candy for democrats, which will appease them, because the only way he can pass any sort of bill now, it appears, at least from the people i consult with, is with democrats. so the democrats now have to decide what are they going to do? and that's a real dilemma for democrats. it's odd how this is all kind of shifted from the republican burden to somewhat of a democratic burden. >> rick, finally to you on this, president trump looks at least based on his messaging today that he can split the difference here, but can the senate and the house split the difference come 2018 and 2020? >> i don't think so. you know, it's -- the problem is, if you move, you're going to lose the freedom caucus, and this is what mitch is trying to convey to the entire caucuses of both houses and senate, if we have to work with democrats, then we've failed. the republicans ultimately did
fail because i suppose they didn't think they were going to win the election because they didn't have a plan to roll out as soon as they did win, and lately their messaging has been give us one more year and i don't think that's going to fly anymore. so like peter says, it is really interesting and it's going to come down to people are suffering the pain one way or the other. granted, obamacare hasn't been very good for some people, a lot of people in west virginia, but when eight out of ten people on the exchanges are receiving subsidies, you know two out of ten are paying for those people, so there's pain on that side, too. so it's a conundrum and means whoever gets blamed for the failures of whatever system we have is going to do well -- not going to do well in 2018, so that's why going back to the republican messaging, it's been so poor. they have not explained why their plan would be better for people. >> all right, rick tyler, peter emmerson, thank you both. >> thanks, richard. >> all right. post g20 the headlines read,
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seeking criticism for the seeking of the joint cybersecurity unit with russia. >> it's not the dumbest idea i've ever heard, but it's close. two hours and 15 minutes of meetings tillerson and trump are able to forgive and forget when it comes to cyberattacks on the american election of 2016. >> the president's trip to the g20 showed rifts between the u.s. and its allies. french president macron, for instance, saying our world has never been so divided. he also warned against moving back to what he calls narrow minded nationalism. russian president vladimir putin refused to disclose specifics with his conversation with president trump, as well. take a listen. >> translator: not going to reveal details with my conversations with obama. that's not part of sort of presidential protocol. i think it would be very incorrect of me to reveal details about my conversations with president trump in the same
way. he asked me questions, i answered, i clarified, and i think that he was satisfied with my answers. >> joining me now, msnbc political analyst jonathan alter. the other headlines, g19, not g20, isolationist united states, odd man out. where is the united states really in this? or should we describe this as president trump and the united states? >> we're in a bad way on this, you know, 98 years ago we had the versailles conference at the end of world war i, and in the weird after that, despite a period of isolation in the late 1930s, the united states has been the leader of the free world. we have stood up and been -- the other nations haven't always agreed with us, but we have been the dominant voice leading the west. now, we're taking a step back. we're saying we're going to be on the sidelines while the entire rest of the world moves forward on climate change, and
we're also going to do a very smelly deal with russia, which a lot of the rest of the world understandably fears, and we are essentially turning over power to russia, turning over russia to china, and retreating as a nation. and this is terrible for our country, a weak president. >> the narrative typically has been about nato, about the g20, the united nations. is it now being led by the united states and russia, by vladimir putin and president trump? when you see those pictures and that meeting, very dominant? >> the only reason that was the dominant meeting was because people wanted to know whether trump would confront him with evidence that our intelligence agencies have gathered, that they interfered in our election. he neglected to do that. >> cold war folks would say this is inextricable, right, jonathan? >> yes, his opinion about whether the meddling had taken place, so the idea we're back to
a world where each side is led by either putin or trump, who's trump leading? he's looking behind him, there's nobody following. the united states is not leading the west anymore. we have turned over power. macron and merkel are now the leaders of the free world. we thought, we thought last fall that there might for the first time be a woman who was the leader of the free world, and indeed there is. it's not hillary clinton, it's angela merkel. >> is the sleeper here president xi with the background moving with the silk robe building this huge economic connection with china, all the way through europe? >> that is a huge story, the infrastructure investments of china around the world are a big story. the most important part, though, is we had an opportunity through tpp to set the trade rules for much of the world, and now we withdrew from that after the election, trump trashed, dished tpp, now china will set the
trade rules. that is a tremendous setback for the united states. >> finally, vladimir putin, he was actually on the other side of that g20 statement at the end, supporting the paris climate agreement, climate accord here, and president trump was on the other side. did he do a jiu-jitsu move? he's on the good side now, at least on the g20 statement? >> that was no surprise. you said trump is on the other side. there is no other side. it's the united states alone. the two other nations in the entire world who are not in climate change accord are there because they didn't think it went far enough. we're the only nation totally isolated in the world on this issue, so there is no other side. it's the entire rest of the nation and the united states decided not to participate. doesn't matter that much because the rest of the world is moving ahead without us.
that's not a good thing. that's not a good thing. not only are we not leading, we're following the rest of the world. >> is there a separation in the g20 where they are sitting down with the president of the united states, but saying, everybody below the departments that run, the infrastructure that runs this country is what we're really going to be doing businesses with, like california, like the seventh largest economy of the world? is that sort of the background behind what they are thinking, these leaders? >> that's a fascinating development, where they are recognizing that maybe because the president is so out of step that they'll work with jerry brown in california and that's good news for the world. the rest of the world hasn't given up on the united states, even though they loathe and do not respect our president. >> all right. thank you so much. jonathan alter, veteran analyst and newsman, thank you so much, sir. a wnba player is giving away half of her paycheck in honor of her late aunt.
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and just this week becoming the new york liberty franchise leader with 1,062 rebounds during her time on the team. but the court is not the only place her heart is. >> i read an article on a high school basketball player that passed away from sudden cardiac arrest. when my aunt passed away, i wanted something to carry on her nature, the person she was, her giving heart. >> reporter: now she's donating her entire salary to an organization named after her aunt that raises awareness for sudden cardiac arrest and donates automated external defibrillators. she also organizes and attends sports safety clinics for children and schools to prepare them to help themselves and others in an emergency. >> i just hope they are able to take away a sense of awareness, the importance of sports safety, the importance of hydration, know how it feels to be concussed, and more importantly, know how to use an aed. >> reporter: she prepares students for the moment they may need to open one up. >> begin by removing all
clothing from the patient's chest. cut clothing if needed. >> gives you live feedback, pads here, you're able to stick the pads, put on it, start your cpr compressions. >> reporter: 326,000 out of hospital cardiac arrests happen each year. only a little over 10% of people survive, and many of those are left with serious neurological issues. but the numbers are much better if a bystander is there with 1 in 3 surviving. the foundation has donated nearly 300 aeds to school and public places like rec centers so more bystanders can jump into action, and she's done this all with no employees, just help from her mother. >> playing for the liberty, you have this foundation, how are you balancing both? >> it's really hard to balance both, but again, if whatever i put my mind so, i definitely do it. i'm not going to give up on the foundation. having some help would definitely put the foundation in a better position. >> reporter: as charles looks to grow her foundation while
playing for the liberty, she'll continue to keep her heart and soul in it. tina charles is currently looking to fill the executive director position at it will c while she's still playing for the liberty. go to hopey's heart foundation or become one of the schools to receive one of the aeds if you need one. >> go tina. >> thank you. >> a promising look at the economy after friday's jobs report. more than 200,000 jobs added. jobs in america and the president's campaign promise could add more. that's next. we can't stay here!
campaign trail. as wages remain low, what does that mean for workers, thousands of them, long term? joining us now, ron insana. what does this mean? all of these folks rejoining the workforce. >> it's a pretty competitive labor market right now, richard. you have 6 million open positions in the united states. that's the record you have and the highest number of people employed in u.s. history employed today as of last month in terms of the overall number of people, over 53 million people have jobs. it's all good news. in a sense it's kind of of a goldilocks economy. it's not running too hot and not generating a lot of inflation and wage inflation, either, as you mentioned and it is at least a solid, dependable labor force. >> employment -- >> close. >> full employment from the federal reserve's perspective is a level at which the economy is running so hot that there's such competition for labor it drives up wages which in term drive up prices and a wage price spiral
and we're not experiencing that type of economy like we did in the '70s. >> tons of headroom on interest rates, too. >> well, potentially. listen, the fed could and will likely continue to raise interest rates as we wade through the year and we'll buy several trillion dollars worth of bonds in order to push interest rates higher and make sure we don't see inflation and that's not what's happening right now. inflation is going in the opposite direction of the fed's target. it's moving away from 2% on the down side and not going through it on the upside. >> that's another discussion. >> it is. we can go on with that one. >> another headline reads the trump job market looks a lot like the obama job market. >> give or take 10,000 jobs a month and we're growing at about the same rate we did in all of 2016. so it's a continuation of a market that we've seen, a labor market that's been reasonably strong although it's taken a long time for us to get back toward full employment and we've not seen policy prescriptions
yet from the trump administration that would have added or subtracted jobs from the economy. >> those are great, fantastic number, but what about wageses? and wages seem to be flat or decreasing. >> not decreasing. 2.5% year over year which is still ahead of the inflation rate for goods and some services and not certainly for health care and not certainly for education and taxes, but you do have some wage growth which is solid, but unspectacular. >> i'm seeing down here when adjusted for inflation here, mr. insana. >> yes. >> when adjusted for inflation. >> not sure if that's true. >> year over year, yeah. >> there's something calleded a deflator. inflation is not running faster than wage growth, and wage gains are 2.5. >> all said from ron insana, thumbs up or thumbs down? >> very good number. >> ron insana, always good to have you here. that does it for us this hour. you can find me on twitter and instagram at richard lui or
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