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thank you all for joining us. that will do it for us at "hardball." thank you for being with us. chris matthews will return to this chair monday night. or the version of this chair in washington. and "all in" with chris hayes starts now. >> so this is everything. this is everything. >> it wasn't everything. >> shocking developments about who met with the trump campaign last year. >> today we learned a former counter intelligence agent was also present at the trump meeting. >> tonight, the latest revelations. as the story from trump world keeps changing. >> it is disgusting. it is so phony. >> this conversation never happened. >> zero happened here. >> then who the russian connections are and how they got close to the trump family. >> you're a winner, a champ. >> plus, the senate health care
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bill on and the president won't let go. when "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york. a form he soviet counter intelligence officer was also in trump tower and we're learning the story told by the president, his son and their allies and defend betters the meeting last summer was not the whole truth. not even close. on tuesday, after being forced to change his story about why the meeting was held, and after releasing the whole e-mail exchange leading up to the meeting, only upon learning the "new york times" was about to publish it. the president said he wanted to lay all his cards on the table. >> more than happy to cooperate with everyone. that's why i release all this today. >> they're trying to drag out the story. >> they want to drip a little today. here it is. i'm more than happy to be transparent about it. >> as far as you know, as far as this incident is concerned, this
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is everything. >> this is everything. >> no, no, it wasn't everything. this morning, nbc news broke the story there was another participant in that meeting who trump junior had failed to mention. someone besides the russian lawyer. that person has been identified as a russian born american lobbyist named rinat akmetshin. the former soviet officer suspected of some u.s. officials of having ongoing ties to russian intelligence and who was accused of orchestrating an international hacking conspiracy, though those allegations were later withdrawn. the lobbyist denies having any connections but he said in april he received a letter from the department of justice telling him to register as foreign agent. i know what the lawyer, this lawy lawyer, the law imposing sanctions on human rights abusers. reporting it is shared by vladimir putin. so red wing at least five people
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were present in that meeting. trump junior, manafort and kushner. the russian veselnitskaya and the russian rinat akmetshin aforementioned. the translator was in the meeting. someone who has done work for the state department bringing the total up to six known attendees. and it is not known if rob goldstone, the british born who help set up the meeting was there. or if there were other attendees we have yet to learn about. the lobbyist told the associated press, he recognized paul manafort, he said there were others who didn't know them so possibly still some shoes yet to drop. over the past few days, the donald trump jr. defenders, that nothing came of it. that's what the president claimed yesterday. >> in the case of don, he listened. they talked about adoption and some things.
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adoption wasn't even part of campaign. but nothing happened with the meeting today. zero happen. >> that's not what the lobbyist at the center of all this said. according to him, the russian lawyer brought with her a plastic fold we are printed out dpomts detail what had she believed was the flow of illicit funds to the democratic national committee. >> joined now. >> the rinat akmetshin is a lobbyist who has been in washington since the mid 1990s. a lot of us who report on international affairs knew him. he has worked on a lot of issues as both the lobbyist and a p.r. guy. having 22nd the former soviet
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space. and he is a pretty talented operator. >> yeah. my sense is as he man about town in d.c. people know him. he knows the right people. he is at different functions. he is not some obscure figure. >> that's certainly true. >> what did he say about how he ended up in this meeting? >> he had been working for a russian company run by, owned by an oligarch that was among other things, trying to water down the sanctions that were targeting russian oligarchs. and one the of the people he worked was this russian lawyer. he said he was in new york. in jeans and a t-shirt and she called him up and said that she had a meeting with donald trump jr. and he said, wow. and she asked him if he could,
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if she could talk to him about it. they had lunch and then she invited him in. it was a meeting he said he wasn't prepared for but he was very interested. >> he was a counter intelligence officer in a previous iteration of his career and said now that he does not have active links to russian intelligence. that's his contention. >> yeah. what he says is he had two years of military service as young man, starting at age eerng. in service he was in the baltics and he worked for a kind of military police unit that included counter tense work. >> he also says, this seems really interesting to me. the idea was this meeting was set up to exchange clinton dirt as part of the efforts to help trump. then they got there and she wanted to talk adoption. but she said she gave some
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documents. >> yes. he says the documents in some way detailed this, the illicit money transfers from russia to the dnc, presumably. >> all right. thank you. >> thank you. joining me now, the senior reporter for a business insider. and you've been following this in a granular sense. what do you make of the day's developments? >> well, this is just another example of the trump campaign seemingly not knowing how to manage a crisis. i think donald trump jr.'s story has changed roughly four or five times this week already. and it raises a lot have questions about why he wouldn't just disclose everyone who was in that meeting immediately. rinat akmetshin is not someone you forget. he was a very experienced political operative in washington, d.c. he is known for being a very fast talker. known for knowing exactly what he's talking about and he's been
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working on this anti-magnitsky legislation for a better part of a year. this is someone who would have made his presence known. >> there was another really interesting story today. we're trying piece together, what happened in this meeting and why were they they? it is one thing to collude in the russian government to defeat hillary clinton by the sharing of dirt on her. the attendees of the meeting say that's not quite what happened. but one of the questions is about the russian lawyer at the center of this. the degree to which she is connected or not connected to the kremlin. she said she had no connection with the cell lynn but she said she was in question, the top russian prosecutor and that individual is important because that's the person mentioned if i'm not mistaken. in e-mail saying, this top prosecutor in russia is part of
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project to help your dad. >> that was initially interpreted as an error. they thought he meant veselnitskaya, not really knowing what her role was. as it turned out, goldstone knew exactly who he was talking about and he seemed to understand that veselnitskaya had this connection to the russian prosecutor, who according to william brouder and what he's told me, that veselnitskaya and the top russian prosecutor have been speaking daily about him. and have been essentially wo working on behalf of the russian government so this they could repeal the magnitsky act. >> just to keep everyone up to date, brouder is an american financier who invested heavily in russia. fell afoul of vladimir putin. his lawyer said was murdered by the russian state and lobbied
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for the magnitsky act. he is the driving force behind these sanctions, which just to be clear, the russian government hates. they really freaked out when we passed they will. putin hates they will. his inner circle hates them. it is a prime objective to get rid of they will. >> as soon as they were passed, u.s.-russia elections hit the lowest point since the cold war. putin called they will outrageous. in retaliation, he actually banned americans from documenting russian children. whenever you hear about russia's adoption policy, it is usually just a way to refer to the magnitsky act. >> it is also notable here, even if the meeting went down the way some of the participant have characterized, which we do not know and there's no reason to believe because we've gotten five different stories. the two things would be placed next to each other in the meeting. we have dirt on hillary clinton. also, we would like you to think about rescinding those sanctions, as side by side agenda items in the same
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meeting. >> exactly. so even if you don't believe, for example, that veselnitskaya and this xlwere working. this he came with documents regarding the dnc and presumably it went something like this. we want to share these documents with you. and in return, we want to you consider lifting sanctions if and when donald trump is elected president. >> right. exactly. even if that's not said, you put those two on the agenda items. we want to help you. and also we have this beef. you don't need to say in the meeting, one equates the other if those are the two things you're talking about. >> and this is why it is so significant for a lot of people. it signals the potential for quid pro quo. it signals that the intent was there to collude with the russian government. it was there in black and white. it was there in the e-mail that
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this was an attorney working on behalf of the russian government. even if that was misinterpreted. even if that's not who she was. that's what trump junior and the rest of the campaign and the high level he officials in the pain thought they were going to be doing. >> all right. thank you so much. i'll joined now by the republican governor whose district is hole to the trump golf club where the president is currently spending the night. are you going to have any face time with the president? >> i don't think so. >> that probably wouldn't help you in your district. >> the president is enjoying his weekend and i hope the golf tournament is a success. >> but it wouldn't help you. >> secretary clinton carried the district by 3,800 votes and i was honored to carry it by 38,000 points. >> i've been trying to create a mental model of a republican congressman during this week. and you're doing your thing. you pass a defense authorization
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act that health care -- i would not, i don't like being lied to as a person. if i were you, i would be angry about being lied to. are you angry about being lied to? >> i certainly think we should get to the bottom of it. >> i'm asking you a personal question. they have told a story that's demonstrably false and we know they know it was false and they're tell everyone that, including you, and all the people in the party who are being asked to dear water for them. that would anger me to be lied to. how do you feel about being lied to in. >> i never like being lied to. i hope we get to the bottom of it. that's why i hope and expect donald trump jr. and others will testify before an open committee of congress. perhaps senator grassley's committee and perhaps the judiciary committee on both sides of the congress. i've watched republicans somewhat to my shock say, oh, anyone would take meeting. would you take meeting? >> no. i would not take that meeting. >> why? >> because i think we should not be involved in that type of situation and i probably would
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call the fbi. >> you think they should have called the fbi. >> yes. >> here's the question. i think if i were a republican congressman, or a staffer at the white house right now, my operating assumption would be that the president's campaign did engage in some sort of coordinated systematic effort. and that would be my spumings i would use to guide my behavior, hoping that isn't true. is that the assumption guiding you at this point? >> i want to get to the bottom of the facts. i'm not there yet but i think it is important for the congress, a a co-equal branch of government to get to the bottom of it. >> can you definitively say the president and his campaign did not engage in a criminal conspiracy with a foreign am rat us? >> no. i cannot. that's why i want to get to the bottom of that. >> think about how remarkable it is. i'm asking you, you cannot 100% say that the president of the united states definitely did not
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engage in a vast criminal conspiracy in coordination with a foreign intelligence apparatus. >> the president has said that he did not know about the meeting. >> you can't be sure that's true. >> i've tried to take people at their word. certainly -- >> do you take president of the united states at his word when he says he didn't know about that meeting? >> i hope he's being accurate and truthful. certainly donald trump jr. will be asked about that when he comes before the congress in an open committee hearing. >> are you -- are people on capitol hill, are you in the cloak room talking on each other about this? >> we talk about a lot of matters and we certainly talk about the fact we want to be an independent, co-equal branch of government and we want the committees to get to the bottom of it. also, i was the first republican on capitol hill to say that the attorney general should recuse himself in this matter and that is what brought about mr. mueller's appointment. and i think mr. mueller should get to the bottom of it. >> at the same time that's happened, the house has passed a health care bill that would
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dramatically change american health care, 24 million would lose coverage. you voted against that. am i correct? >> you are correct. >> you were there for the mark-up. you were on board during the mark-up but you voted against it. it is in the senate. on the precipice of being passed. it seems to me if writ to pass amidst what's happening with this investigation, and we later find out the worst, that public would be facing a legitimacy crisis. if you cannot tell me definitively that the president did not engage in conspiracy, that were he to sign a piece of legislation only to find out after what produce a legitimacy crisis in the country. >> i don't think the health care bill in the senate is likely to pass the senate in its current form. >> not dead yet. >> that's accurate. but certainly, i think that the bill mirrors much of what is in
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the house bill. and i would not support it. i do not believe. i want to see what the final result is but i did not vote for the house bill. >> but do you see my point? there's a huge chunk of voters. they're watching this and saying, it seems like a lot, he tells me he isn't quite, he's not 100% sure the president and his campaign did not engage in conspiracy. while that's hanging over everyone's head, we'll pass this health care bill. do you know why that might make people frustrated? >> i think we have a responsibility to govern. and the congress has a responsibility to govern and the president has a responsibility to govern. not only on health care but the national defense authorization act. which i think is a critically important piece of legislation. that's the substance of what the house of representative does this week. i'm very proud of it.
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and it sends a message to russia. and as you know, the senate passed significant new sanctions against russia. and i hope that we in the house will do so as quickly as possible. >> apparently the white house and paul ryan are not so keen on that. always pleasure. thank you very much. have a great weekend. coming up, who are the people that coordinated the meeting? a closer look at donald trump, his friend, the oligarch, and his son, the pop star. choicehotels.com. badda book. badda boom.
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i can't believe you're 35. you're a winner, a champ, you're great at real estate and boy, can you entertain. >> we're learning more about the relationship between them. and then agalarov is a russian pop singer who says he first met trump about four years ago when he traveled to las vegas to discuss hosting the miss
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universe pageant at his family owned home in moscow. traveling with him, a real estate develop we are close ties to vladimir putin who has built a fortune thanks on construction projects. the agalarovs appear to have grown close to trump and his family. that's them partying together at miss universe in moscow in 2013. donald trump jr. sought this week to downplay the relationship. >> successful real estate developers over there. that's the extent of my knowledge with they will. once or twice and maintained a casual relationship. talked about potential deals and that's the extent of it. >> that's not the story that emin agalarov maintains. he said he's exchanged messages with don jr. the president himself seems particularly close to the agalarovs. even appearing in one of his music videos. that's at trump tower shortly
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before trump announced his candidacy. there he is at the golf resort after emin performed on stage and there's emin with ivanka. when trump won the general election, the agalarovs sent along their congratulations. and he responded with a hand written note of gratitude. joining me, the reason i want to talk to you, the last time you and i talked, we were hanging out and you were telling me, this is like pop singer and his dad. and that's kind of a weird sort of thing. who are these people and why are they close to the trumps? >> so they're fascinating because they unite two of the worlds of russian oligarchy. so he is frommagfrom.
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he is a thoroughly openly nakedly corrupt nation with some people there have close ties to donald trump and his company. and agalarov left there in 1998 to go to moscow where he became really a top tier russia oligarch. so a multibillionaire with deep ties in central asia. he built this mall, fairgrounds, real estate business, with very close ties to the putin administration. his son claims, it is amazing how many of these folks say, i just happened to call donald trump. i just happened to meet him. his son emin because i told you socially, i went and interviewed him a few weeks ago. he was in the u.s. on a concert tour where he was basically hanging a large p.r. staff to
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promote him as a major american potential american he singer. >> it is also interesting that that happened before thought came out. he would have had a very different press tour now. >> it probably would work better. he's not -- he's a solid singer. poppy. it's fine. anyway. i went to interview him. i pretended to be a pop music journalist. i was asking, i asked someone at the new yorker who knows about pop music to write some questions for me and then i asked him about the relationship with the trumps. and he said he love donald trump so much when he was young and he dreamed of being like donald trump. this is emin, the son. so he reached out to donald trump through the miss universe organization. i'm skeptical simply because the agalarovs are close to so many other people. >> i want to be clear. the story here about the origin of this relationship is plucky emin having read donald trump's
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book just reaches out of the blue. >> exactly. like i love the guy. i reached up out of the blue. and often the same group of russian names, russian emgray names appear in the story. there's a guy who is another wildly wealthy russian who lived in brooklyn. and then manhattan. who seems to be at the center of a lot of. this has close ties to agalarov as well as close ties to russian mob officials. there's a guy names lev, another russian exoligarch who made a fortune with diamonds in israel. so there's a group of people who appear often over the last decade or two in trump's otter who are also in the putin orbit. >> so we've seen so much reporting. he has these russia ties. he did miss universe in moscow.
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and i kept reporting these stories. okay. there's another thing, the russians thakd dnc and they wanted to get trump elected. it is possible they're both true in independent parallel channels. that e-mail is the first evidence of a nexus between the two which strikes me as a big deal. >> it is. i've been arguing for months, that will be the nexus. that somehow, if you think of who donald trump was in 2012, 2013. he was somebody very desperate for deals with people who were not going to ask too many questions about, will you actually pull off this deal. and donald trump had proved himself very eager to work people who have a lot of money. willing to spend the money who others might not be willing to work. with and i think that mess of stuff is where he this nexus came. >> all right.
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thank you. >> thank you. coming up, one no vote away from failure. did john kasich just seal the fate?
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two weeks ago we led our show with a "wall street journal" report about peter smith and the operative who reportedly sought e-mails. the story was a big deal. while smith told the journal on the record he was working independently, he had intimated to others that he had been working with michael flynn, president trump's disgraced security adviser. and investigators have examined reports from intelligence
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agencies that describe russian hackers discussing how to obtain e-mails from miss clinton's server and then transmit them to mr. flynn via an intermediary. until this week, and the disclosure of jump junior's e-mails. that was the very first evidence of a trump ally seeking to collude with russian hackers. now the story has taken a strange twist. the "wall street journal" had reported that smith died shortly after he was interviewed. but yesterday the "chicago tribune" said the death was not for natural causes. smith reportedly kill himself in a minnesota courtroom, leaving a suicide note during which he said, no foul play was involved with his death. there's a lot in his operation to get the e-mails. what connections he may or may not have had with the campaign and there's a good chance we'll
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i thank vice president pence. he showed true back bone himself in indiana when he expanded medicaid for his citizens. >> virginia governor terry mccall deliver taking a dig at mike pence. now as vice president, he is pushing a senate health care bill includes hundreds of billions of dollars in cuts to
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the program and a permanentalteration of how it is fund. it is holding on for now. but one single solitary deflection and it is dead. the majority leader mitch mcconnell won't have enough votes if he loses just one more. and among those are the self-identified moderates like dean heller and ohio's rob portman. both from states with republican governors who have been opposed to the absolutely drastic medicaid votes in the bill. today he came out calling it unacceptable which will put significant pressure on portman not to support it. at that same meeting today, vice president pence took his own shot at kasich. >> obamacare has put far too many able bodied adults on the medicaid rolls, leaving many disabled americans at the back of the line. it is true and it is heart breaking. i know governor kasich isn't with us but i suspect he is very
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troubled to know in ohio alone, nearly 60,000 disabled citizens are stuck on waiting lists. >> joining me now, the disibility of rights groups are almost unanimously protesting. had i saw someone say it is encouraging for mccobble that he got two quick nos but the dam has held. >> i pretty much agree. quite frankly, i'm pretty sure i said a couple weeks ago that i didn't think senator mcconnell has the votes then and i'm not sure he has it now. based on everything i've seen, we have at least a handful of members who are waiting for the cbo score to come out. as you are well aware of, this bill has changed very little.
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especially when it comes to the drault cuts and the number of people who will lose health care. when that report is released next week, i expect senator heller among others to quickly get into the no column. in the meantime, he has boxed himself in the corner in a bad, bad manner. andett get beaten up all weekend. >> two ways, people i talked to who say the last 24 hours are hell for mcconnell. >> oldest trick in the books. >> what do you mean by that? >> you need to show positive momentum going into the weekend. if not, there will die a quick painful death. >> what i was hearing was mcconnell was saying, just make it until monday if you're going to come out against it. and giving people of the plot point of the cbo score.
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that's your read. you think the folks who will defloekt this are waiting. the thing they can point to. >> yes. i think by most estimates, it will show somewhere between 15 and 22 million americans are going to lose the health care and i think for at least one, if not more, that will be the final straw and they're going to bail quickly. >> to play devil's advocate, you have, mcconnell is good at this. >> very good at it. >> you were chief of staff for harry reid. you sat across from him in these chess matches. he's held them together. and he can lean on these folks, if he isolates them, it strikes me. no one will want to be the one. if for instance, heller and portman and capito and murkowski got together, they could come out as a block and destroy it. if he can deal with them individually and they don't get enough pressure from the other
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side, it does seem there's a narrow pattern. >> yes. i would put it differently. what he is telling them, hey, folks, i really, really need out this procedural vote. on the motion to proceed to the book. stick with me there. give me your vote. we'll try mollify your concerns throughout the amendment process. if they believe that, they should get a new line of work because they've just been conned bigly. what mcconnell will do at the end, we've talked about it before. after all the amendment process is over with, and after all the dozens of amendments have been dealt with, he will swoop in and offer one big amendment that will subsume everything. and jam them. why? because he will make it more conservative in the end. so he can quickly get through the house. >> that's right. that's totally true. and he's already done that. they didn't like the medicaid cuts. the new version has a cruz/lee
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amendment in it. and he is just betting, i can roll you because you're basically a coward and don't believe you believe what you say you believe. >> that's where the pressure from these governors coming from are so important. >> still ahead, keeping track of the constantly shifting explanations for the failure to disclose the meeting. jared kushner's lawyers give least believable excuse yet and a record thing one, thing two starts after this. he
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thing one tonight. we've been documenting president trump's odd overly aggressive style of shaking hands. the so-called yank and pull that he's pulled on leaders. there's also the power clasp, seen here most notably with benjamin netanyahu. holding him tight to the vest. an embrace that went on and on and on.
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president trump attended the bastille day in paris. there was this very strange handshake that had some yank and pulls, it looked like president macron was trying to wrap it up. you're watching it in real time. it kept going and going morphing into a power collapse and roping in the first lady of france in a greeting that turned into a group hand holding session. you see that there. it lasted for 30 seconds. this is not edited at all. it keeps going. but it seems -- whew, done. we'll play it again. a little faster.
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new revelations have come so quickly on the russian involvement. it is worth stepping back and looking at how far it has come beginning with the person at the center of it all. donald trump jr. about a year ago he was asked about a claim by the clinton campaign manager that russians were behind the hacking of the dnc as part of a plot to help donald trump get elected. we know that question was asked just weeks after don junior's meeting following an e-mail.
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that it would be very use tofl your father. part of russia and its government's support for mr. trump. but a few weeks after that june 2016 meeting, trump junior's famed outrage at the notion of russian involvement. >> it goes to show you their exact moral compass. they'll say anything to win this. this is lie after lie. i can't think of bigger lies. that exactly goes to show what you the dnc and the clinton camp will do. >> big, big lies. before and after trump's election, there were further questions about any meeting or contact with russian officials and the denials. >> are there any ties between mr. trump, you or your campaign and putin and his regime? >> no. there are not. it is absurd. there's no basis to it. >> did anyone involved in the trump campaign have any contact with russians trying to med well the election? >> absolutely not. and i discussed that with the president-elect just last night. those conversations never
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happened. >> i'm asking you a direct question. was there any contact in any way between trump or his associates and the kremlin or cut-outs they have. >> i joined this campaign in the summer. i can tell you that all the contact by the trump campaign and associates was with the american people. >> i'm just trying to get an answer. >> of course not. >> senator jeff sessions, his confirmation hearing, failed to disclose his meetings with sergei kislyak which led him to recuse himself in the russian investigation. now to bring it back, i don't know, there are the rapidly evolving characterizations of the meeting from an initial claim of no meetings, that's what he said back in march. to a meeting about russian adoption. to meeting in which opposition ref about hillary clinton was promised but not delivered, to meeting with eight people instead of just a few. also the president's son-in-law, attend that had june 2016 meeting. the very special problem of jared kushner just ahead.
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under the possible penalty of purnlry, jared kushner were the president's son-in-law and senior adviser did not disclose any of his foreign contacts including his meetings with russian officials. this account is eye opening. he initially filed his sf-86 leaving out any meetings with foreign officials during the transition of the campaign. saying that a member of his
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staff prematurely hit the send button for the form before it was completed. jared kushner said he would make an amendment. follow by a revised security remission. you have to click, enter password 28 times in order to e file. secondly, it took four months from the allegedly inadvertent filing to submit a revised form? and thirdly, that revision, the one that four months later didn't include the meeting kushner attended at trump tower with trump jr., paul manafort and the russian nationals, the meeting where they said they wanted to help you out with the hillary clinton dirt. that revision, that was done on june 21st. joining me now, political reporter for the guardian and michael steele. let me start with you, michael.
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i found the existing publication of the e-mail has altered the way that i think about this whole thing. and i asked congress lance about this. and i got to think the senators and republican congressmen on capitol hill are watching themselves being lied to. i know that. >> they do. they're nervous about it. they're angry about it. but they realize that there's very little they can do about it. why? because the cement that has blocked in them in around their feet are the very voters running 80%, 90% in support of president trump. so they can't do any chipping away at this at all. >> they could. it could cost them politically. we're free agents. >> my attitude is are you willing to take the risk. what matters most. you've now got on the table the country, the party and a whole lot of other stuff that could be a real mess if this is allowed to play itself with mueller coming down the pike a year from now saying by the way, this is a
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litany of things that are problematic. what do you do? that's their reality. you want to get to the legislative agenda, which is as messed up as it could be. >> they're plunging ahead. it's remarkable to watch how this is going to happen. >> whether we win it or not, we're going to do something that's not talking about this. and that where mcconnell wants to be. that's where a lot of the senators want to be. they don't want have to carry this baggage of health care into 2018. but we're stuck at the door. >> that's the thing. sabrina, it's a satisfying thing as a reporter when you catch someone in a lie and it definitely happens a lot. it's a great feeling when you e-mail or call back saying actually, i have that meeting. but can't remember the last time that i saw something, lied about this bracesly and unravelled so
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quickly. usually it's one or the other. but it's head snapping. >> this is a white house that has a kred ncredibility problemt starts from the top. you take the administration out of the equation for just a second and you look at donald trump jr.'s version of events, day by day he's been caught in one lie after another. and the assertion by the white house as well as donald trump jr. yes, this meeting did take place, here are the actual circumstances around which this meeting was set up but nothing actually came of the meeting. and when you look at the fact that there is a version of events unravelled each day, you have no reason to take donald trump jr.'s word at face value. there's in way to prove that nothing came from that meeting. again it's the totality of the meetings as you mentioned earlier on in your show. this is not one isolated meeting. we know there have been multiple occasions where there were communications between trump associates and members of the campaign and the russians. >> yeah. i want to read just to remind
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everyone what the story was. this is the official statement by don jr. that is signed off by the president on air force one. it was a short introductory meeting. i asked jared and paul to stop by. we primarily discussed the prom about an adoption of russian children. it was not a campaign issue at the time. that's not true. that was not the reason. i was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance but was not told the name of the person i would be meeting. wu the russian government lawyer representing the russian state in the efforts for your father to win. that was five days ago. now when they say oh, knock came of the meeting or when jared kushner's people tell us they accidentally hit send. >> but you know what this -- >> come on. >> this doesn't play to the narrative they want you to address. >> i know that. >> this plays to the narrative that 85% of goppers and 49% of
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all americans who stand behind trump. as one trump supporter put it to me just yesterday, why don't you just let him do his job. as long as the president knows that that per peck sperspective him is out there -- >> i have watched them in the last, i would say, three to four weeks get their sea legs in making sure they could hold that 40%. it is very clear to them their entire strategy, the ministers praying over him, the interview with pat robertson, the fox news, the don jr. sort of fighting on twitter, they understand they've got to keep that 40% and everything is targeted to that. >> yes. it's actually a recent poll that's very telling of the republican electorate and it found that one in four republican voters do not actually view russia as a serious threat. so there is a reorienting of the republican party that we know has happened under trump's watch. and the real question is are the republicans on capitol hill, who
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have been for years bemoaning the response to russia and are now turning the other way when donald trump is showing an affinity toward vladimir putin and a willing by trump campaign to collude with the russians. are they going to say enough is enough. yes, they want health care and tax reform but are they willing to go against what they claim is the backbone of u.s. democracy and all of these institutions that they claim they revere. >> that is all for this evening. good evening, rachel. happy friday, my friend. hope you have a great weekend. thanks to you at home for joining us. happy friday to you as well. also i'm sorry. you may have been expecting to see richard engel right now. if so, i am sorry that i am not him. i am nowhere near as accomplished nor as compelling nor as handsome as he is. bu

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