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out the sun. tens of thousands of people have been evacuated from their homes as thousands of firefighters try to get a handle on this. the photographer here, jonathan heyward for canadian press. as always i'll post today's big picture and i would love to hear thoughts and respond to comments on all of it. maybe not today, i'm heading outlet to assignment now. handing to ali velshi in new york going solo. >> i'll try to do a good job. i'm ali velshi. stephanie ruhle is off. let's get started. >> plmpz latest performance review unflattering. his approval rating falling to 36%. >> his disapproval numbers are higher than bill clinton or barack obama. >> this week marks six months since the trump administration was sworn into office. >> i don't know how many meetings he had in total. i don't know whether most of
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them were listed. >> the changing story is embarrassing. the changing story is stupid. the changing story is a mistake. >> this is about as clear evidence you could find of intent by the campaign to collude with the russians. >> level of credibility from senior levels of administration really is suspect, and i think suspect regardless of which political party you belong to. >> opposition research is a big part of the campaign. >> doesn't go on with the russians all the time, jay. >> here is what happened. first of all, nothing happened. >> a lot more disclosures ahead that follows the pattern of all these leaks from apparently inside the white house. >> as far as you know, as far as this incident is concerned, this is all of it. this is everything. >> the longer the bill is out there, the more conservative republicans are going to discover it's not repeal. >> there are about eight to ten republican senators who have serious concerns about this bill. >> as soon as we have a full contingent of senators that will
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have that vote. >> president trump is just days away from marking his first six months in office. he's promising a busy week of wins ahead after spending the weekend at his golf course in new jersey he tweeted, "much will be accomplished this week on trade, the military, and security!" but six months in, the president is surrounded by the lowest poll numbers in presidential history. lots of controversy and few legislative victories like the repeal and replacement of obamacare. let's drill down on where he stands. new polling from "washington post" and abc news gives president trump a 36% approval rating. that's the lowest of any president at the sick month mark. bloomberg's new numbers show president trump's approval at 40% and gallup puts it at 38%. let's talk about legislation. the president has signed 42 bills, 15 of them undo obama era rules, 17 have legislative
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substance, including one new policy called department of veteran affairs accountability and whistleblower protection act. five of the bills have to do with personnel hires and five commemorative like the renaming of a building, for example. so president donald j. trump has had six months with republican controlled senate and house, six months to make good on his biggest promises. let's talk about what those big promises actually are, starting where he stands. the folks helped us put together a list of the most urgent items. number one being the repeal and replacement of obamacare, which is on hold again because republican senator john mccain is recovering from major surgery. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell hoping for a vote this week will he's waiting for mccain to come back to congress, could be next week or longer than that. tax reform. steve mnuchin wanted it done by august. gary cohn says will not get a
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bill until first two weeks of december. talk about border wall with mexico. the president said he wants construction to begin this year but the white house couldn't get the funding for it. negotiations for funding are under way for fiscal year 2018. spending bills in thehill.com report that the house appropriations committee released a bill almost $2 billion to begin construction. we'll hear more about this this week. let's talk about the budget. president trump released his america first proposed budget in may. the congressional budget office said saturday it will result in a $720 billion deficit by the end of ten years instead of the surplus that it promises. the deadline for spending bill is the end of 2017. that's september 30th by the way they have to get this done. the house is expected to take some kind of action before it goes on its august research. so we're going to think about this in terms of legislative accomplishments six months in. joining me is glenn thrush, white house correspondent for
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"the new york times" and msnbc political analyst. glen, good to see you. is there any sense in the white house there is pressure building to do this? because when you hear donald trump and his surrogates make speeches they talk like a lot has been done. fundamentally on health care, tax reform, the budget, his promises of a border wall, as we've seen, nothing has been done. >> that's exactly right. the principle action that's taken place is deregulatory, that's where trump alliance not coincidentally with the koch brothers and outside groups legislating for years. insofar as it overlapped with republican interest, those have been done. on the other hand, i've been examining his work on infrastructure and this was supposed to be the program, the trillion dollar public/private
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partnership, a real bipartisan effort. at the moment, it slipped on the agenda. >> it could be bipartisan if they were able to keep focused on that i was surprised a little while ago to see donald trump tweeting about donald trump jr. and this meeting with the russian lawyer last week. you'd think at least he would want to go somewhere else. in fact, "politico" has an article yesterday where it says republicans health care bill in jeopardy, the white house is once again turning to a series of unrelated theme weeks to organize president donald trump's schedule. over the next three weeks white house will hold events three vaguely defined themes, made in america, measure heroes and american dreams. we've seen where infrastructure week went. we had workforce development week or something. this is made in america week. but nothing seems to happen with these weeks. >> what's going on is, you know, the west wipg ng is atomized. you have the president of the united states who operates on
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his own calendar, his own agenda and his own twitter finger. that determines a secertain setf priorities that as you said could be anything from the women's golf tournament at bedminster. we've seen more, by the way, tweets on that event than we have about medicaid from the president of the united states. the latter will have more to do with his legacy. you have the bannon-steve miller group about economic nationalism, america first. peter navarro on trade. then you have the press office, which is kind of being squeezed, communication shop being squeezed and operating almost as a normal press office might, trying to change the subject. part of the reason we're seeing these weeks, not because of incompetence, this the way communications staff is supposed to function. on the other end of this to complicate this, you have the entire legal team expanded over the weekend to include ty cobb,
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increasingly occupied with the russia investigation what you are seeing here is an imperious president determined to do what he wants to do and a whole universe of other people who are factionalized who are trying don't ask, don't tell what they want to do. dallas dissidence. >> thanks for joining us, glenn thrush of the "new york times." glen just mentioned russia investigations and meeting donald trump jr. had with the russian lawyer he thought would give him dirt on hillary clinton. in fact, the president himself is still talking about it, tweeting less than an hour ago. most politicians would have gone to a meeting toingts know on an opponent, that's politics. more info on one at the meeting which we now believe to have seven people. started with four, became five and six. by some counts it's more. we've got at least seven people at the meeting.
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what's your sense of how many people were at that meeting and who they were. >> ali, thank you for having me on. we recently wrote a story about one participant in that meeting, a figure familiar to journalists who have worked in this part of the world. he's a corporate investigator. he has a history of having possessed or obtained e-mails from russian hackers. this according to court cases that came out in the united states. >> what's your sense of what he was doing there. he has been a lobbyist. the russian lawyer in there with him said this was about adoptions. we're talking about the mag act. is that the goal from the russians perspective? >> that was certainly the stated
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goal. he had been working with the russian lawyer on this issue. the interesting thing is this is a man with a lot of experience in investigations in the former soviet union. in particular a court case from 2015 is revealing. in this case, it was between two mining companies. one company accused the other of having hired him to hack into computers, obtain e-mails and then release them to journalist s in order to damage them in this lawsuit. there's echos of dnc, knopf evidence he was involved in the dnc hack. they with drew the claim and it was never litigated. it's interesting a year before the meeting with donald trump, there had been this allegation that came out in public.
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>> what sense are you getting in moscow whether quid pro quo is real, this russian lawyer and akhmetshin were looking for help getting the magnitsky act repealed. it's a congressionally passed set of sanctions. versus we can do something for you. they are trying to minimize that part. nothing of value was offered and, hence, nothing came out of the meeting. >> in moscow there's opposition to magnitsky act. the lawyer was lobbying on behalf of a private individual. that stance coincided with the stance of the russian government. >> andrew, good to talk to you. thank you for joining us. andrew cramer in moscow, a correspondent with the "new york times." when i talked about the health care schedule in congress, mitch mcconnell holding that vote off, part of that is because of
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senator john mccain's surgery that has been delaying the passage of that bill. when we come back we're going to discuss his condition and why it might be more serious than they initially thought. on my travels across the country i came across this house with water dripping from the ceiling. you never know when something like this will happen. so let the geico insurance agency help you with homeowners insurance and protect yourself from things like fire, theft, or in this case, water damage. cannonball! now if i had to guess, i'd say somewhere upstairs there's a broken pipe. let the geico insurance agency help you with homeowners insurance. call today to see how much you could save. finding the best hotel price is now a safe bet. because tripadvisor searches over 200 booking sites - so you save up to 30% on the hotel you want. lock it in. tripadvisor.
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we all wish john mccain a speedy recovery and we need him in more ways than one. yes, i believe as soon as we have a full contingent of senators that we'll have that vote. it's important we do so.
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>> the number two senate republican john cornyn there talking about senator john mccain's surgery on friday to remove a blood clot from above his left eye. because of that, a vote that was planned for this week on the senate gop health care bill is being postponed as senator mccain, his support is crucial for the measure to win approval. it wasn't 100% approval he was on side for the bill. his surgery may be more serious than thought, which could delay his return from his home where he's recuperating. garrett, good to see you. what's the issue with john mccain? i think a lot of people may have missed the story from the beginning. tell us what happened and what the recovery time looks like. >> sure, ali. saturday john mccain's office put out a statement about this. they said he was having his regular annual physical and they found a blood clot behind his eye, 7 centimeters long, works
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out to about 2 inches. they had surgery to remove the blood clot, a minimally invasive procedure, but also a craniotomy, which means they would have to remove part of his skull to do it. john mccain was tortured in a prison, had melanoma in the past. he is about as tough as they come. that said minimally invasive surgery at 80 years old is something that happens to someone else. they are waiting on the pathology report, find out more about the blood clot. his office said he would be out for a week. john mccain likes doing this job, more than most senators. i think he would be back here as soon as he possibly could be but they are doing to have it wait on this pathology report and wait on doctor's orders to get on a plane to fly back from arizona. >> here is the thing. i know mcconnell can't afford to lose two votes it's clear he's not getting, senator collins and rand paul. if i recall friday the last
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thing we learned from john mccain, not 100% sure he was on board with this bill. >> john mccain was frustrated that two amendments he had worked on with the governor of arizona had not been included on this new draft of the bill. but that said, as john cornyn said this weekend and other republicans have said, an open amendment process to this bill. we haven't heard anything saying he wouldn't vote to move this to the floor and get the opportunity to attach these amendments. while there was no guarantee he would vote for the bill to ultimately pass, he seemed by all indications interested in continuing that conversation, which is not the same as rand paul and susan collins, who have been too hard-nosed, saying we don't want to debate the bill, needs too much work. >> all right. are those the only two who have been hard-nosed about this? it's hard to keep track of who is really against this bill and who isn't. those are the two who said they aren't in favor. >> it's tough. the two hard nosed on the new version of the bill.
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we had our internal whip count list trying to keep track of where folks stood on the old version of the bill. everyone else on our list is telling us they are reviewing the bill, deliberating, talking with their constituents. a lot waiting for cbo score, congressional budget office score which we may not get until tomorrow. i'd be surprised if you see any more senators come forward today to come out and say fundamentally they are against this even if fundamentally they are going to do that. no surprise to be the person to kill this bill on the right. >> garrett, good to talk to you. we will spend time discussing this bill and where it's going. coming up next joined by washington state senator maria cantwell. dig into the health care vote and more on donald trump's ties to russia. take a look at this. "new york times" cartoon, word of advice, president trump, don't give vladimir putin your password. stay with us. i know if the pain comes, i'm not gonna get my job done.
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are trying to replace and repeal obamacare they say it's in a death spiral. a "washington post" shows half american prefer the current health care law. time to separate fact from fiction. for fact's sake, is obamacare really broken? republicans are wrong. obamacare is not in a death spiral. the health law's signal achievement has been to reduce the number of americans who don't have health insurance. america's uninsured went from 49 million in 2010 to 28 million in 2016 in large part because of the individual mandate requiring all to get health coverage. millions of america's poor who couldn't afford coverage and many that couldn't find insurance benefitted. vast measures on employer plans
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or medicaid expanded roles are doing just fine or are better off under obamacare, but a significant few are worse off. health premiums shot up more than expected, especially in the individual market affecting 21 million people, which, by the way, represents just 7% of americans with health insurance. an even smaller segment within the individual market, lower to middle income americans who aren't poor enough to qualify for medicaid but make too much to receive insurance subsidiaries and aren't old enough for medicare have been crushed by obamacare premiums. that doesn't make for a death spiral but it's clear this obamacare's insurance mandate isn't robust enough. the incentive for america's young and healthy to sign up and stay covered has been weak because of ever rising premiums. an estimated 2 million americans have already dropped their coverage this year alone. they have decided it's cheaper to pay $695 penalty for an individual or 2.5% of income for
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a household than to purchase health coverage. that means the risks pool meant to share costs across the population has been skewed by a higher proportion of older and sick patients. add to that the secondary problem of insurers pulling out of medical exchanges in some states. can you see why republicans harp on obamacare. but what republicans don't talk about is the uncertainty they are creating trying to repeal the law and the threats to cut funding and hold back subsidy payments. those subsidies promised to insurance companies to ease the pain to their poem line as they in sure less profitable people. cutting those would create a death spiral. joining me now is washington state senator maria cantwell, a member of several committees including commerce, energy and finance. senator, good to see you. thank you for being with us. we're now in this business of discussing what happens next. maybe the republicans can repeal obamacare. doesn't seem to be particularly
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popular to do that. there are definitely, as i outline, some problems with obamacare. you've got some solutions you're proposing. >> ali, let me say first of all, thank you. one of the reasons why i said i would come on today, i had no idea you were going to do that segment is because you deal in the details of the policy that we need to get to as lawmakers and as people who do need to work together. >> thank you. >> i thought that was a good synopsis of the challenge. the issue is that the republicans almost have a war on medicaid. they want to cap it and lower and kick people off of medicaid when we know either worked. it's helped them get coverage. it's helped the economy and states and cities they are in and instead have ignored the issue which you outlined 6 to 7% of the individual market where in some places it's worked well, in other places it hasn't. what do we need to do to make improvements? so stop the war on medicaid, stop overall repeal and let's work across the aisle to focus
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on the real challenges. >> ultimately, and i remind people about this when i can, the success so far of obamacare if you want to underscore successes has been medicaid expansion. people seem to be obsessed with the individual market. i can tell you, if i were one of those people who didn't earn enough to afford my premiums, didn't earn so little i would get a subsidy for it, i would in some parts of the country annoyed because my premium has gone up in multiples. how do we get to that? >> first of all, there's a whole bunch of things in the affordable care act you probably didn't have time in your short segment to talk about that are delivery system reforms, that are improving health care, focusing on managed care, focusing on outcomes that are going to help us lower cost. any time you can help lower cost you're going to drive down the cost of insurance. so we'll save that for another ali velshi segment and you can talk about that. >> that's a good point you're getting at. we pay so much more per person
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for health care than all other developed countries and rich countries and things like that. i've heard some democrats talk about moving to a single payer system when, in fact, what we need to achieve is universal coverage of some sort. single payer is just one piece of that. what should the democrats' strategy be to say, hey, the parts of obamacare that worked we should be doing more of without triggering republican ire because they decided single payer is socialist medicine. >> first of all, i think everybody should have access to health care and it should be universal. the issue is what should we get done right now. in that segment we talked about the individual market is part of the affordable care act, theres a plan working very well in new york right now called the basic plan or essential plan. so families there are buying insurance for about $500 of an annual premium. and basically what new york did is bundled up a population, so there's 650,000 people and
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offered that. i call it the costco model, when you buy in bulk you should get a discount. >> that's the point of universal coverage. you don't have a risk pool made up of only sick or only elderly people, you've got everybody in the risk pool. >> you're marrying up two ideas, that an individual should have as much clout as a company that has 4,000 employees and get a discount. you want the individual small business person or farmer, what have you, to be able to get a discount as well. so bundle them up into a larger population like they did in new york and successfully drive down the cost and spread that risk. so there's 13 different providers that are offering into that new york market. but at $500 for an annual premium, there's a lot of takers. a lot of people want that. a lot of people will pay that, because they know that's going to get them successful coverage. so those are the ideas that i think that we need to be
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pursuing. i hope that our colleagues will stop the war on medicaid and start focusing on this. >> senator, there are conservative republicans, including rand paul, who say medicaid expansion, though you look at it as a remarkable success out of obamacare, is yet another thing that the government is now stuck paying for and it's going to increase over time with our aging population. so in other words, not everybody has got the same goal in this conversation. >> well, listen, as you showed, the facts don't lie. i'm sure you could go to hospital in my state after hospital who will tell you that the expansion of medicaid drove down price on individual rates. that is the individual consumer who is not on medicate, because they know that medicate population without some base level of coverage is going to show up the emergency room and drive up everybody's cost. the key idea, if you think about health care, they are almost
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like late adopters in an information age. a lot because of privacy issues, what have you. there are a lot of reforms in managed care. i know some of my leagues on the other side of the aisle that also believe this that will drive down costs overall. those things in the affordable care act should be pursued. if we keep going in this direction, make sure people are covered, change the system to make sure we're making improvements and managed care, we will keep on a trajectory of making sure there are lower costs. >> right. we need to keep going that way. senator maria cantwell, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> president trump's national six month approval rating is lower than any president's has been in 70 years. his standing has taken a hit even in places where he won in 2016. we're going to break down those numbers next. first, here is something that's been distracting me. there's something that has a wildly high approval rating, and it is bacon. america's love for bacon is
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ruhle." the health care bill delayed as john mccain recovers from surgery. doctors removed a blood clot from above his eye. experts say the recovery period could be one to two weeks. just this hour trump administration announced it would issue 15,000 more temporary worker visas called hb 2 visas after businesses complain they need more seasonal workers and could not fill with american workers. hb2 covers nonagriculture guest workers include land and hollings workers. a search in arizona for a person missing from flash flooding. water swept through a popular swimming hole killing nine people including children. in florida, a massive sinkhole swallowed two homes in hours near tampa. authorities say five more homes are unsafe. and this, iran has sentenced a chinese american phd student to ten years in prison on spying charges. his school, prince top
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university, released a statement saying he had been arrested last summer conducting research on iranian history. bureau chief joins me from london. what do we know about the situation and the charges. well, ali, yes, another american arrested in iran, this time a chinese american graduate student from princeton who say he was in iran carrying out scholarly research. the iranian judiciary said it was an american student from princeton university, arrested in iran and sentenced to ten years in prison on charges of spying for the united states. he had gone missing months ago in iran, but it was only yesterday that the ultrahard line judiciary announced his arrest and sentencing. the judiciary didn't mention him by name but a website closely affiliated to the judiciary named him as 37-year-old xi wang and labeled him american infiltrators who had a web of
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intelligence. they described him as fluent in persian and digitized some 4,500 pages of iranian documents and had done confidential research for the u.s. department of state, harvard kennedy school of law and the british institute of persian studies. mr. wang's arrest adds to a long list of american citizens, many of whom were dual nationals imprisoned in iran on charges of espionage, many of whom still languish in iranian prisons. princeton released a statement saying mr. wang's family and the university are distressed that his continued imprisonment and are hopeful that he will be released after his case is heard by appelt authorities in tehran. in the interim the university will continue to do everything it can to be supportive of mr. wang and his family. now, this case is definitely going to heighten tensions between iran and america, who as you know have been enemies for almost four decades.
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the state department has called on iran to release all foreign citizens held unjustly so they can return to their families. iranian authorities don't usually acquiesce to requests from the state department. >> we will follow this as we follow other americans detained in iran. in london, our tehran bureau chief. thanks. in other news new poll numbers showing president trump's approval ratings diving to an historic low according to "wall street journal" poll his numbers are also down among trump supporters. joining us to break these down msnbc senior editor mark murray. the polls people have seen have been headline numbers, trump's popularity across entire electorate across americans. we've done a deep dive in counties donald trump won. >> absolutely, ali. let me start with the national polls that are out today.
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there as "washington post" that has president trump at 36%, bloomberg 40%, gallup daily tracker at 38%. our nbc "wall street journal" poll of trump counties did something a little different. national polls from california to texas and new york, but what we decided to do was look at 16 competitive states, counties trump flipped from barack obama, in 2012 went to obama and flipped to donald trump or counties where donald trump had a surge past mitt romney's performance in 2012. what do we find? president trump's approval rating in these counties is at 50% overall. so overall it's a better situation than the national polls but there's a tale of two different counties, ali. on the one hand you end up having counties, surge counties i talked about. a good example would be like carbon county, cole county, pennsylvania, where mitt romney barely won in 2012, donald trump won by a significant margin.
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trump's approval rating in those counties is 56%. enthose flip counties, wilkes-barre, lucerne county that went for obama in 2012 but ended up breaking for donald trump in 2016, his approval rating is at 44%. so a bit of a difference in those two divot types of trump counties. here is one other story line, ali. there's been an erosion in support in both of these types of counties. in the surge counties won by the margin, 69% he won now approval rating at 56%, similarly in the flip areas he was able to win combined 51-43% against hillary clinton. that 50% winning margin his approval rating at 44%. >> mark, are there places where it is obvious donald trump's message is resonating to the degree he's running at higher support than he was when the election took place? >> you know, ali, i don't have
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numbers that back that up. one of the things we've found is, this is true for polling in our counties as well as outside, if you did vote for donald trump, you probably still support him. there's been very little drop-off there. what we are finding is there are people who may not have voted in 2016, i think people are still locked into their choices. remember, the election was just eight or nine months ago. what we do see is a situation where donald trump in his win was fueled by two different things. one, that base of support that's still with him. then there were independent people and other folks who simply decided to vote against hillary clinton. i think when you end up looking at overall approval ratings and have him around 35 to 40%, it shows you that trump base is still there but the people who kind of were toss-up voters could have gone in any other direction, those independent voters aren't with him certainly in the first six months of his presidency. >> mark, thanks for breaking it down, mark murray in washington.
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i don't know how many meetings he had in total. i don't know whether most of them were listed. those are issues we do need to review. senator susan collins calling for a review of jared kushner's security clearance. apparently becoming the first republican lawmaker to join a growing chorus of democrats to do so, this amid growing revelations about his contacts, previously unreported contacts with russia, particularly those at the kremlin. june 2016 russia meeting at trump tower.
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joining us now richard painter served as chief white house ethics lawyer for president george w. bush. he's now a law professor at the university of minnesota and vice chairman of government watchdog accruing crew. good to see you again. you tweeted yesterday, quote, jared kushner's security clearance should be revoked. if not, we should just throw in the towel and give one to vladimir putin himself. you mean that? >> yes, i do. when in doubt, you revoke a security clearance. at least temporarily until you can fend out the facts. and you shouldn't have to have a review in the united states senate to revoke a security clearance. that should happen within the executive branch and should happen immediately when you have facts that suggest a strong risk. and we look at what has happened here, have you two problems. one is the number of contacts that mr. kushner has had with the russians, including russian
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bankers and other russian agents. most worrisome, of course, is this meeting in the trump tower with russian agents who specifically told donald trump jr. that they wanted to influence the russian governmen favor of donald trump and that they wanted to give dirt op hillary clinton. this is obviously collaboration with the russians. it's just set forthright there in the e-mail as plain as day, and he goes to that meeting along with paul manafort and donald trump jr. they're the top three people in the trump organization. so this is a very, very serious situation. then to compound the problems, jared kushner has not been candid about his contacts with the russians. he has omitted these contacts on his security clearance forms that were filled out in order to get the security clearance to begin with. he has not been honest about his contacts with the russians. multiple meetings with the russians not disclosed. and i cannot imagine how anyone
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would forget about a meeting where three of the top people, the top people in the campaign, were there along with russian agents talking about coming up with the dirt on hillary clinton. will there's no way they'd forget about that. >> let's look at what the security clearance for jared kushner involves. top-secret clearance, the highest you can get. applies to information that reasonably could be expected to cause exceptionally grave damage to the national security if disclosed to unauthorized sources. so top secret is a big deal. it gives him access to top national security secrets, acses to top national defense secrets and daily intelligence briefings. i want to move on to a different topic here but related. walter shaub, the former head of the government ethics department, says that these clashes with the white house have weakened ethics laws because he says these laws have evolved over time nape ear sort of agreements. they've been developed in part in cooperation with the white
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house to help things become clearer and more transparent and create more accountability for people. he thinks we're moving backward now. >> well, i share his concern. i worked close with walter when i was the chief ethics lawyer for the george w. bush white house, and the office of government ethics has always given very sound advice and we followed that advice and so did the obama administration. this is the first time since the founding of the office of government ethics that we have a white house that has been at war with the office of government ethics over multiple issues including the white house counsel's office writing a letter to the office of government ethics saying, no, no, the rules apply to the white house staff. utterly ridiculous. we never would have take than position in the bush administration. so on repeated occasions this white house has attacked oge,
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attacked walter shaub and their surrogates in the house of representatives and fox news and other places and going after walter as well. and all he's been trying to do is implement the ethics rules, the same rules we had under president bush and under president obama. he's not a partisan democrat or republican. i thought he was so good for us that he was a republican. but actually he's just an american who's trying to do his job. a very tragic situation. snee doesn't seem to be getting into it with anyone. he says when -- in all the work he's done he's worked with the white house on these things. they haven't worked against him. i want to play something to you from former campaign manager david bosse. he said this on fox news about the bits about the russians. >> this drip, drip, drip thing is just not working. and we need to have a group of people, a core group that come up and understand what
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everything is and put it all out there for better or worse so that it's over. >> i mean, richard, that's sort of part of your job when you were there as the ethics watchdog for the bush administration. you've got to know what the story is and put it out there once. >> yes. you tell the truth. you don't lie about it. we've had repeated lies that started with general flynn and the attorney general testimony for his confirmation hearing with the senate judiciary committee and now it's jared kushner, donald trump jr., the white house repeatedly saying that there's been no collusion. well, e-mail sets forthright there plain as day collusion. they have got to stop lying about their contacts with the russians and the hypocrisy is amazing. they announce we're going to have a white house made in america when their own election
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wasn't even made in america. there are so many component parts from foreign countries in our electoral system at this point, particularly russia, that it's a serious threat to our democracy. and they want to ignore it. they want to lie about it. >> if issue would be elections made in america. richard, good to talk with you as always. chief white house ethics lawyer for president george w. bush from 2005 to 2007. and he just set up my next segment because the white house has declared this week made in america week. where do donald trump family businesses make their products? i'm going to show you after this break. your brain is an amazing thing. but as you get older, it naturally begins to change, causing a lack of sharpness, or even trouble with recall. thankfully, the breakthrough in prevagen helps your brain and actually improves memory. the secret is an ingredient originally discovered... in jellyfish. in clinical trials, prevagen has been shown to improve short-term memory. prevagen. the name to remember.
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president trump is unveiling his made in america theme for the week later today. the administration will promote products manufactured here in the united states. the irony of it all is that most of donald trump's own products are not made in america. let's take a look by product. his shirts are made in china, bangladesh, honduras, and vietnam. his suits are made -- not the ones he wear, the ones he sells with his brand -- in indonesia and mexico. donald trump eyeglasses, branded eyeglasses, i bet you have a pair of those, are made in china. donald trump's mirrors, vases, wall decor, kitchen items, and lightning are made in china as well. let's take a look at hotel pens and toiletries for the trump properties. they are made in china and in
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taiwan. and the natural spring water and bedding comforters are made in america. imagine that. we've actually got something made in america here. we can use that for the week. ivanka trump's clothing line. looked at that last week. zero products in ivanka trump's clothing line are made in america. the rest are made in china, indonesia, india, bapg la desch and ethiopia. that is it for me. i'll be back at 3:00 p.m. eastern time. now for "andrea mitchell reports." and right now on "andrea mitchell reports," family ties. president trump stick up for his son on twitter while his personal lawyer tries to create some distance. >> i don't respect donald trump jr. we don't represent druch jr. we don't represent the campaign. we represent the president. >> stress test. john mccain's emergency surgery forcing mitch mcconnell to delay bringing health care to the senate floor, giving opponents more time to pick off a vote. >> there are about 8 to 10 republican senators who have serious concerns about this bill.

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