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it looks like as we know, he is not likely to do that. >> and we're waiting to see whether manafort and trump junior will go before the committee. thank you for watching. i'm chris jansing. "hardball" starts right now. trump makes a threat. let's play "hardball." >> good evening. i'm chris math news san francisco. president trump has set forth an aggressive message against his attorney general and most starkly against man leading the russia investigation, robert mueller. the big question today, where is this headed? it looks like the crisis between a prosecutor seeking evidence and a president refusing to surrender. in an oval office interview with "the new york times," president trump said it was under fair of
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jeff sessions to recuse himself from decisions about russia. >> sessions gets the job. right after he gets the job, he recuses himself. was that a mistake? >> well, sessions should have never recused himself. if he was going to recuse himself, he should have told me before he took job and i would have picked somebody else. >> the president criticized the investigation being done by robert mueller. he said his team was full of conflicts of interest. and he got off this warning shot. >> if mueller was looking at your finances and your family's finances, unrelated to russia, is that a red line? >> i would say yes. >> the president can't answer whether he would fire mueller. the president attacked his deputy attorney general rob rosenstein as someone from baltimore where where he noted accusingly, very few
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republicans. and he continue to disparage james comey. according to president trump, he did a great thing for the american people by firing comey. he said comey told him about opportunity documented dossier filled with salacious claims to hold it over the president's head. let's listen. >> i didn't know what to think other than this is really phony stuff. >> why do you think he shared it? >> in my opinion, he shared it so i would think he had it out there. >> as leverage? >> i think so. >> this morning the attorney general sessions was asked about the president's attack. let's listen. >> i have the honor of serving as attorney general. it is something that goes beyond any thought i would have ever had for myself. we love this job. we love this department. and i plan to continue to do so. as long as that is appropriate. i am totally confident we can
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continue to run this office in an effective way. >> i'll joined now by the "new york times" peter baker who was part of the team that interviewed the president. hallie jackson is at the white house and dan rather, the host of the big interview axis tv. let's go to peter. i listened to that and i've read it a number of times. i'm hearing donald trump saying, don't mess with my tax returns. don't go after my finances and i'll decide where the red line is. i'll decide what is in play for the russian investigation and i'll decide what is not in play and i intend to denial that you information, that evidence. >> it was very interesting. we tried several times to try to get from him what he thought the red lines were. we're in the boundaries of this investigation. what was his understanding of robert mueller's charge as special counsel. he wouldn't be very precise except for that one clip you just played. i think rather than the precision is that he is setting
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lines and he'll decide where the lines are proechblt at some future date. and it is a warning. a warning to the special counsel that he sees, the president sees limits on his authority and his ability to conduct this investigation. you mentioned that he talked about conflicts of interest. why does he use that phrase? the president has the authority to direct the justice department to fire a special counsel if they are determined to be conflicts of interest. so he is laying the ground work here to say, there's not an unending, unlimited investigation. i have lines i don't understand which i will not allow this to go. >> dan rather, this is, it echos president nixon and his refusal to release tapes to the then special prosecutor. it is as if trump doesn't know history or is determined to repeat it. here he is saying what he will be deliver to the counsel who is investigating him. >> this very much seems to me a
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case of, you know, the president said never miss an opportunity to keep your mouth shut. and president trump hasn't followed that. my experience over a lifetime covering prosecutors and the criminal justice system, it is never a good idea to tlaen prosecutor. never mind special prosecutor. who can say where this goes? every day we have he he something like this happen like the times interview with all the information in it. down the road somewhere there will be a constitutional crisis. certainly would be if the president decided to fire the special prosecutor, which you can't, to think he didn't intend to be a threat. a threat to the attorney general. to the deputy attorney general, to the special prosecutor, this is unprecedented. and the closest we have is the nixon period of watergate.
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and that didn't turn out too well. >> no. i want to ask you about the president. you know him very well. does he know even if he fires mueller, he will get another spounl, he'll get another attorney general if he fires this one. he may get another civil servant. do you think he has the gall to keep firing people indefinitely and keep never control of this ball that way, even if it is the crassest possible way to protect himself? >> let me back up a couple gears. there i want to emphasize what was said in the white house briefing room today. from sarah huckabee sanders saying the president has no intention of firing bob mueller he right now. this is a line that we have heard from this white house before. that's not to say that may not change. sanders certainly left the door open for it to change in the future. at this point, it is not as if the president has his pen poised. publicly sharing to do so.
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i will say the white house is claiming this line that the president delivered on bob mueller was not a threat. but it is difficult to read it as anything but a warning shot to mueller. to stay away from that particular area. the other part of it is that mueller does not care. one thing we know about him, he will continue to investigate regardless of any kind of outside influence or outside interference that may be put on him. that pressure. so to your question, will the president continue to fire people? he's fired somebody so far. pretty high profile person. what we can say right now based on our reporting, is that there is not actively plans in the works for him to fire him yet. >> he has it from sally yates and comey. the president and where he stands on this. do you get a sense that he knows that he put mueller in a corner here? he said to mueller, don't do this or you'll be fired, in an implicit threat.
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it makes mueller almost have to do it. to go after his tax returns to prove that he is not on the leash of this president. >> that's an interesting point. how much do you want to poke and prod a prosecutor? you get your defense attorneys telling you not to do it. and they've told him. robert mueller is good for you. if he finds nothing wrong, that will be semied by the broader politic in washington. if you continue to goad him, to provoke him, that would be counter productive. he doesn't see it that way. i think he wants to implicitly through this conversation, influence course of the investigation and see what he can do to limit its effects. >> president trump also attacked deputy attorney general rod rosenstein who he said was
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somebody he hardly knew. then he told "the new york times," rod rosenstein from baltimore and there are very few republicans in baltimore, if any. i don't know why he added that. i think i do. today rosenstein was asked about that comment by the president. let's listen. >> the president told "the new york times" yesterday the fact you're from baltimore concerns him cynic there aren't many republicans in that city. is that a valid concern? >> we're working here every day to advance the priorities of the department of justice and the administration. er i am proud to be here yesterday and today and tomorrow. and we are spending every minute working to advance the interests of the department. >> dan rather, it seems to me this president sets up all possible points and obstacles as bad people. he went after that mexican american judge, questioning, given his heritage, how he could give a fair judgment.
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he went after comey and rosenstein saying he has to be a bad democrat saying he's from baltimore. he is going after now bob mueller saying he has conflicts of interest already in his infancy as a special counsel. what is this m.o. of trump in accusing everyone of being tainted who might cause him trouble? >> well, i think what you have here is the president is afraid. exactly what he is afraid of is unclear to me. it is increasingly clear that he is speaking out of fear. he knows there's something in his financial back ground, his tax returns, in the meetings he and the members of his staff have. whatever. what you have here, he's afraid. he's speaking out of fear and he's trying to intimidate, to contract where the investigation will go. in effect he is saying to muler and the others, don't follow the
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money. anybody in journalism or a criminal investigation knows following the money is the best way to find out if any criminal act has happened. we always get back to this question, what is he hiding? he has to be hiding something. otherwise, he would say, listen. this is what i know. i'll cooperate with the investigation. i'll testify in public. what have you. so you have a fear factor operating with him here. and he has something to hide. it may or may not be something criminal. but there's something he is very afraid will get out. and it is damaging, freezing his presidency and hurting the country. this is a dangerous time when we have to talk on television about a constitutional crisis when we've only passed the six-month point for this new presidency. >> well, that's something.
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politico had says trump goes off script and fumes. trump did not consult before the interview with his lawyers who weren't aware that he was going to be talking about the investigation extensively, according to a person close to the legal team. he didn't prepare answers with his top aides, some of whom were unaware that he had been in such a lengthy interview with "the new york times." you're an expert over this. what happens when they find out, apparently the white house press people had to get a transcript from the "new york times" to find out what their guy, the president, had said. >> let me put out a couple things. i've had it pointed out to me faye only one person from the communications shop was with me. they were pointing tom saying that's raising some eyebrows, i will say that i've had
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conversations today. i don't want to say spin but the angle here, sure. but he's being candid is the bottom line. you heard that a little bit from sarah huckabee sanders. the president is speaking his mind. he is being honest. he is talking about his disappointment in jeff sessions and how he feels with bob mueller. but they say these aren't threats and they shouldn't be read into as a sign the president is he in fact trying to imply he is going to be firing mueller soon. remember, when you look at the president's framing for this, the white house has made the argument, publicly and privately, that the president is coming from a place of frustration here. he sees they constant stories in the media for various reasons, because they're stories. and he feels like he is constantly being attacked for what he calls witch hunt. so part of that conversation is centered on that. the president's deep frustration that this is not going away and
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he can not talk about his agend. i would point out a lot of it is self-inflicted. the president himself is bringing up these topics and not for example, pivoting as you saw others do today to the agenda topic at hand. yesterday that would have been health care. faye would have been made in america. >> thank you. thank you as always and dan rather. coming up, trump's national security team is increasingly concerned. what else do you call it? it has put them at odds. plus, had john mccain back in the senate after some troubling medical news. and as dan rather says, why does dough what he does is that why is he threatening his attorney general and his special counsel
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welcome back to "hardball." in his interview with "the new york times," president trump talked about that g-20 dinner in germany where ted undisclosed second meeting with vladimir putin. a meeting the "washington post" says lasted up to an hour. president trump said he and putin also spoke about adoptions. the very same subject his son donald trump jr. said he discussed with russians at that june 9 meeting last year. let's listen. >> i went down just to say he hello to melania, and while i was there i said hello to putin. really, pleasantries more than anything else. it was not a long conversation but it was good, you know, could be 15 minutes. just talked about things. actually, it was very interesting. we talked about adoption. >> you did. >> russian adoption. yeah. i always found interesting.
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he end that had years ago. and i actually talked about russian adoption with him which is interesting. that was a part of the conversation that don had in his meeting. >> well, the news of trump's meeting with putin has now deepened divisions between he the president and his national security team of one said, diplomats and intelligence officials were dumbfounded by the president's approach. mcmasters warned that putin is not to be trusted and advised the president against holding an official bilateral meeting with putin. howard fineman, global editor and director. senator, what do you make of this strange behavior by the president, going over there and spending an hour? chatting away and apparently talking about sanctions. i don't know how you talk about the adoption issue without talking about the sanctions
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which led to the russians cutting off adoptions to this country. >> it concerns our allies and at times it is even reckless. he is confrogt someone in vladimir putin who is a sharp capable former kgb agent with all the skills and tools that implies. donald trump is the fourth u.s. president vladimir putin has sized up and dealt with. and donald trump frankly as our president is he in some ways learning on the job. >> i think that he went over and had a conversation of up to an hour's length and reportedly didn't bring his own translator but relied on the russian translator is the rookie mistake that would make his national security adviser, his defense secretary and others quite concerned. that he is trusting vladimir put putin. >> let's talk about russian trade craft and latter day russian espionage.
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it seems to me they began this effort in june of last year. at least by then when they dangled dirt on hillary clinton to the president's son, who then brought in all the campaign manager. all the dirt they could on hillary. the russians were signaling in their e-mail that they were in this thing to help beat hillary clinton. was that the beginning of a control situation by the former kgb boss? >> one of the things most striking to me about the e-mail that donald trump released, in the e-mail transcript, when he was sent an e-mail saying, this offer of compromising information on hillary clinton is a part of russia's effort to help your father win the presidency. his response wasn't, what? or what are you talking about? or i'll give this to the fbi or that's unacceptable or we're not
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interested. his response was, let's have a meeting. i think that was the opening door with the russians trying build a relationship with the senior levels of the trump campaign team. this is why next wednesday we'll have paul manafort and donald trump jr. appear before the intelligence committee. it is why they are getting documents and witnesses in the investigation. we don't know for sure what transpired. we know when it was discussed, it is only after several days of public disclosures that we learned how many people were at that meeting. who was at that meeting and we don't yet know the topic of the meeting. >> after defending the conversation with putin by saying it was about adoptions, trump moved on to defend his son's involvement in that june 9 meeting last year. he said any politician would agree with russians to get dirt on an possibly. and some agreed with him on
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that. >> when they call up and they say we have information on your point. they said he, who are you taking a meeting with? a lot of them. they said who wouldn't have taken a meeting like that? a couple of they will. that was before russia was hot. russia wasn't hot then. that was almost a year and a half ago. so russia wasn't like it is. wasn't radioactive. russia was russia. >> what did you make of that? him trying to bring in the gang? it sounds like something you say when you're 12 years old. did you something you shouldn't have. everybody does it. i just met with some republican senators, unnamed. talk about unsourced information. they say it is all right to meet with russian operatives. they think it is fine to meet with people associated with moscow, to get they will
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involved in our politics. are you kidding? >> well, my first thought is that the three "new york times" reporters in there didn't take it seriously enough on demand to know who the senators were who told them that. because i doubt that there were any. i think what's going on is donald trump is flailing. that whole interview to me was a man flailing. as you said, he is looking for ways to set up enemies to attack. he is looking the say business as usual. the thing you have to understand about donald trump, he makes as many arguments as he know to as many discreet constituents as he can. he doesn't think as any of they will inoperaty. they all to go a certain constituency.
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when he says this is business as usual. he is speaking to the cynic i of his core voters who hate and distrust politicians and he will play to that. >> in discussing special counsel, mueller, his investigation, president trump conceded that he might have sold real estate to the russians, but maintains he doesn't make money from russia. here he goes. >> i sell a lot of condos and somebody from russia might have. they said i made money from russia. it's not my thing. i don't do that. over the years, i looked at maybe doing a deal in russia but i never did one. >> what do you make of trump throughout being investigated? he told the investigator what he is allowed the investigate. it is as simple and stoop i as
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that. right there he's saying he was investing in russia selling buildings with condominiums or whatever. he is admitting it. now he's saying the special prosecutor can't follow money. >> this is an example of outrageous actions by the president. threatening bob muler and suggesting there's a boundy beyond which he is not supposed to go suggests the president doesn't know or doesn't care what the limits are here in his actions. special counsel mueller has been given a sxharnlg the sxinlds the resources to pursue an investigation wherever it leads. and i think it is appropriate that bob mueller continue to do so. i also, frankly given who bob mueller is and his career, don't expect him to be intimidated by anything the president says. >> i don't think he has the cut of that jib. thank you. up next, senator mccain msnbc promises his sparring partners that he'll be back following
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hurt anyone. he could be freed as early as october 1st. the treasury department fine ed exxonmobil for violating sanctions. >> how many times have my friends the pundits written off the mccain campaign? we're going to fool them one more time. >> welcome back. that was senator mccain msnbc during his 2008 presidential campaign. the six-term arizona senator is now facing a new fight after being diagnosed with brain cancer. there's already been a flood of support from across the political spectrum and the country. today, senator mccain made a simple message he had to his well wishers and colleagues. he wrote, i greatly appreciate the outpouring of support. unfortunately for my sparring partners congress, i'll be back
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soon so stand by. he's long been known for his independent streak, his straight talk and his willingness to reach across the aisle. a few weeks before the election if 2008, he famously defended his possibly, barack obama, against false allegations about the senator's ethnicity. let's listen to this great moment. i have to ask you a question. i do not believe in -- i can't trust obama. i have bred him and he's not, he is a, he's an arab. he is not -- >> no. no, ma'am. he's a decent family man citizen that i just happen to have disagreements with on fundamental issues. that's what this campaign is all about. he's not. >> that was an american moment. yesterday, former president obama tweeted, mccain smk an
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american hero and one of the celebrate evident fighters i've ever known. cancer doesn't know what it's up against. give it hell, john. >> i saw him days after his big upset victory over george w. bush in the hnew hampshire primary. >> i'll spent the next hour with the challenger, john mccain. >> have you noticed the heat level rising? >> sure. i feel -- >> do you feel like you're in a nose cone? i've noticed the radio ads are about 4-1 against you. i'm sure the tv ads are just as bad. i tried to get a nap this afternoon and it doesn't stop. they want to nail you on the questions, which i will do, by the way. >> the enemy is always an enemy. it is intense. it's tough. i feel like liuke sky walker trying to get out of the death
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star. i'm going to make it just like he did. >> those were great days. i'm joined on the phone by one of mccain msnbc's close colleagues. during their time together in the senate, former kelly ayotte. you're one of the three amigos. tell us about him uflt two or three minutes here. give us a sense of the person. >> chris, so john mccain, you know, first of all, john has a great sense of humor. he is a man of great integrity and courage. we know that. politically and what he's done in terms of his heroic service to our country. i just love the jokes that john mccain will tell. he is so quick, witty, smart, and you know, trying with him was an incredible experience. i know that he will battle the cancer like he battles
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everything. and as he great patriot. >> you know, i think the knock on most politicians, i don't think you're included, they go along. they go along and get along. and they try to truman along in the pack. and they're like every other senator on their side of the aisle. mccain looks like his whole purpose in life was to do the distinguishing thing. the action that would be important because wasn't going along with the crowd. >> yes, yes. john mccain is a maverick. he does what he thinks is right. and he'll hold to either party accountable. if he thinks they're heading in the wrong direction, and i think he says a lot of times what people are thinking. but many politicians are afraid to say. >> what do you think it was influence on his life of seven years, i believe it was, all together, as a prisoner of war after his plane was shot down over hanoi? you never sense that had
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resonated in the way he looked at his public service? >> i think it resonated with him because service is so deep. not only for him but within his entire family. and you know, the fact that he sacrificed so much for our country in that prison camp. the fact that he wouldn't go home when he could have gone home. because honor is very important to him. and the other thing that i've heard john talk lot about, fellow prisoners of war, that he talked about how they saved his life. and the camaraderie and the feeling that he had for the people he served with. their courage. and i think that has shaped, obviously, his service, his caring, his integrity, and why he is courageous and willing to call things as they are. and to speak truth to power and be sometimes that voice needs to be heard in washington. >> you're the best.
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thanks. so. senator ayotte of new hampshire. i wish you would come back and be a senator again. up next, more from president trump's nearly hour-long interview with "the new york times." where is this headed? i think he's going after mueller. we're going to have a constitutional crisis. he's not giving up his tax returns. plus another strange moment. trump offers his view on napoleon bonapart and his sex life. new charmin ultra soft! it's softer than ever. new charmin ultra soft is twice as absorbent so you can use less. and it's softer than ever... so it's harder to resist. okay, this is getting a little weird. we all go, why not enjoy the go with charmin?
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811 is available to any business our or homeownerfe. to make sure that you identify where your utilities are if you are gonna do any kind of excavation no matter how small or large before you dig, call 811. keep yourself safe. today marks six months since president trump took oath of office. a glimpse into where his head is at now, you might say, at this point in the presidency. beyond the russian investigation, trump spoke beyond his recent visit to paris. health care and his legislative accomplishments or lack there of. in one exchange, a reporter
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asked about his recent visit to france with president macron. he says i have a great relationship with him. he's a great guy. a great guy. smart. strong. loves holding my hand. people don't realize he lost holding my hand and that's good as far as it goes. trump add that had upon leaving the eiffel tower after having dinner with the french president, it looked like they could have never had a bigger celebration ever in the history of the i'll have tower. there were thousands and thousands of people cause they heard we were having dinner. this morning a french newspaper poinlth out the president will seeped to be confusing regular eiffel tower tourism with interest in his visit. that's a smack. for now, i'm joined by my round table reporters. he is also an msnbc had contributor. and with "the new york times" and clarence page with the "chicago tribune." let's take a look at this interesting part of the interview. the president references french
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emperor from the 19th century, napoleon bonaparte. his one problem is he didn't go to russia that night. because he had extracurricular activities and they froze to death. how many times has russia been saved by the weather? michael, explain. what would he mean by extracurricular activities? is it, napoleon had a jet start that was taking him to moscow. you don't bop over to moscow from paris in 1805, or 1812. casually. and you don't not do it because you have a date that night. what is he talking about? >> this was the first time i'd ever interviewed president trump and what i learned during it is that he goes in many different detours. and they move very, very quickly. right after he talked about
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that, he moved into the economy and you often don't have a chance to come back and ask him what he's talking about. i have no better idea than you do about what he said. there were other aspects. we were pressing him on the e-mail on don junior that we never got an answer to. he speaks so quickly and so fast that it is hard to pin him down. >> first, the obsession with napoleon's sex life, he was making a reference about why he thought in a pole beyond lost the battle of moscow. i don't want to get into it. it was a totally different situation. they burned the city. they killed the food. hit nothing 22nd napoleon not being able to catch the night flight. anyway, crazy talk. we're back in the small hands category here. what is it with three references
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to the fact that macron, the very popular new president of france, liked according the trump to shake hands. >> what i think president trump is trying to do is make himself seem loved. there's this idea that he's not seen as the world leader on the world stage. what he is feeling is backed into a cornerest wants people to know, the world does love me. and as trump has changed u.s. policy as it relates to climate change and trade, he is being seen as someone not as much as an ally, to countries that have been historically close to the united states. i think what we're seeing there, what is going on, he is trying say, look, this guy likes the hold my hand. even if the cameras and the media tell you they don't like me, they like me. >> michael said you have to follow the train of thought of
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trump. i'm going to catch him at each pass. what do you make of the hands? the european culture where they do shake hands more than we do. we do it greeting somebody for the first time, perhaps, but then you stop doing it. is it just that cultural difference? >> i learned during campaign, with donald trump, it is wise not to try to read too much into what he is saying. he's just trying to be friendly. he is always talking to his base. that's where his audience is. in the room, it reminds me of a rockies manager in the movie. >> yeah, yes. >> he was always chattering. between small talk and big talk. that's why donald trump can go
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from napoleon to economic policy. >> he doesn't know anything. he doesn't know anything. >> you can tell, this thing about darting over the moscow from paris with the night flight. his love life, how he had a girlfriend or something that night and that's why they lost the battle of moscow. it's crazy. >> what goes into his head goes out of his mouth. >> it ended badly. he died of stomach cancer. the idea that he had all these failed military interventions. that's not just ending badly. >> even when you think about how he was characterizing napoleon, he was redrawing history there. >> even today, st. helena doesn't have an airport. he talked about how successful trump's trim to poland was. and he said i've had the best reviews on foreign land. so i go to poland and make a
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speech. enemies of mine in the media, it was the greatest speech ever made on foreign soil by a president. i'll saying, man, the you see the reviews i got on that speech. i think roosevelt gets a little credit in the competition. >> he seems to derive a lot of strength from the trips abroad. the trims to saudi arabia where they treated him like king. he really likes the pomp. he likes the military aspects. he loved the parade. >> he wants bastille type parade in d.c. this is his dream. he is like an 8-year-old. >> i want big parade. >> all these rallies, right? that's why he feeds off this idea that people want to love him. this idea that i have this big
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thing the media told me. i wasn't going to be able, that's why you have him talking about jeff sessions. he's saying jeff sessions should have known he was my guy. and i'm rewarding his loyalty with this big job. how do you recuse yourself from this investigation? that could possibly take me down? so all of this is connected. when you think of how he is speaking and thinking. >> up next, these three will tell me something i don't know. (vo) more "doing chores for mom"
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this and are looking at going at how lynch and comey acted during the investigation. whether there was anything untoward that this is part of the reasoning why comey said he held the press conference. >> the military office that support it is white house is leasing trump tower and it costs $130,000 a month to lease that space. so essentially the federal government is spending $130,000 a month. >> a new poll shows women in particular having a much greater interest in politics since the election. particularly the demographic that votes democrat. so needily to say democrats,
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liberals are very excited about this. >> we can see that here on the show. thank you all. when we return let me finish with trump watch again not going to make him happy. you're watching "hardball." ray's always been different. last year, he said he was going to dig a hole to china. at&t is working with farmers to improve irrigation techniques. remote moisture sensors use a reliable network to tell them when and where to water. so that farmers like ray can compete in big ways. china. oh ... he got there. that's the power of and. delicious pasta marinara.
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trump watch thursday, june 20, 2017. donald trump sent a message last night it was addressed to bob mueller personally. he said mueller better wise up and realize that donald trump is in charge and mueller better do what he tells them to do. the central point trump wants to make is trump's not to do too thorough a job investigating the
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trump russia investigating. he's not to go poking around in his economic dealings, he's not to demand trump's tax returns. ta t everyone works for trump, and that goes to nevada, well, donald trump we need to know is now seeing himself as above investigating. but knowing this isn't true would require a true courses in history. the kind of courses mr. trump skipped on his way to being a billion. he spoke of napoleon with the new york times about the french defeat of 1812 over in moscow. the true mention of that defeat was hub ris, an emporer who thought he could dominate anyone, ended up on an island on
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the south atlantic without an airport. we must wonder if donald trump thinks he can do no worse than that fate and end up at mar mar-a-lago. that's "hardball." thanks for being with us. all in with chris hayes starts now. >> tonight on all in. >> how do you take a job and recuse yourself. >> mu fallout from the new york times bombshell. >> would that be a breech of what his actual charge snchts i would say, yes. >> tonight the white house responds to a report that the special counsel is following trump's money. >> i sell a lot of condo units and somebody from russia buys a condo, who knows. >> how seriously are you considering possibly resigning. >> as the president turns on his own, new details