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good afternoon, i'm chris jansing. 2:00 p.m. in new york where we're waiting to hear from president trump. inside, it will be the first time that we'll hear from him actually speaking since the epic fail of the skinny repeal effort. it is our word of the day. no. >> mrs. collins, mrs. murkowski.
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>>. >> gave the thumbs down. that means a no vote. >> why did you vote no. >> i thought it was the right vote. >> none of it was enough to move john mccain off of the no vote. off of his conviction that this was the wrong bill to vote on. >> today we learned that the president called senator mccain in a last ditch effort to get him to vote yes. he said three republicans and 48 democrats let the americans down. as i said from the beginning, let obama care implode, then deal. watch. the top democratic in the senate issued this warning. >> this idea of sabotage and
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donald trump doesn't get it. so what happens next, and what does it mean for the rest of the agenda? i want to bring in our team of reporters. we have garrett hach. senior political reporter erin blake. kristen, the president's speech is not about health care always -- >> from time to time we know he goes off topic, but let's start with what you're thinking about and what you're hearing. >> i would not be surprised if president trump weighed in on what we witnessed when he speaks in long island just a short time from now. this is front and center at the white house. i was told in no uncertain terms
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they were surprised for john mccain's vote. that president made that last phone call, that last ditch effort. trying to twist and change his mind, but in the end he thought it was the wrong course of action. it didn't completely repeal it, and it didn't replace it. that fuelled the decision we saw for senator mccain and the two other senators. they say it is good there is a recess. law maerks can go home, face constituents, be reminded of the mo promises they made to voters. vowing to repeal and replace obama care. the white house thinks that can be helpful for having everyone have a reset. here is the political reality and the reality in terms of the calendar. this gets a lot tougher moving
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forward. why? they have to take up certain pieces of legislation in the fall, le the debt ceiling. it is very likely you will see them move on to other issues like tax reform and structu infrastructure. you could see democrats and republicans working to come up with fixes to obama care. we'll have to see what they ultimately decide. there is a number of issues they're trying to sort out and a number of path ways to go about it, but this is a big defeat for this president. >> and i understand senator lindsey graham was at the white house today. >> we did not replace it, we own the collapse. i would rather get out of the way and let it collapse than
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have a half-ass approach. >> talk about not mincing words, right? >> unusual for lindsey graham. >> i was hold me had some agenda items to discuss, but health care will be one of the number one things they discussion. he was opposed to the legislation, and no doubt the president will press him on that and a way forward. we have not gotten a read out of what unfolded in that meeting. i think it is worth noting the broader context. he has not been afraid to fr criticize this president. some of the rhetoric and the sharp criticism he has had for his own attorney general. jeff sessions is one of his former colleagues. very defensive and protective of
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him and made it clear they are not interested in confirming another attorney general. so some of the back and forth here behind the seecenes at the white house, it is possible that was one of the items discussed today. >> in the meantime you have the president tweeting let obama care implode. what will happen next? >> right now that is just a negotiating tactic that is not working. when you talk to republicans in both houses up here, it is clear the next step, if there is a next step, will have to come from the senate. paul ryan's statement last night, comments this morning make clear that the house is ready to move on to tax reform and other issues. they're not interested in continuing to relitigate this, they feel like they have done
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their part. if there is going to be a next part, they will be trying to cable together something that could pass, but the ball is still very much in the senate's court on that going forward. right now they don't have the votes on the republican side to get something done. >> annie, is the president going to try to actively help obama care fail? who has the power here? >> i think the president has, you know, been asked about that actually. the top staff say they're not going to proactively do anything to allow obama care to fail. but the thing that is interesting, the anger that they are feeling toward republicans
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for failing to deliver something that he could sign that was so palpable and i think that point that the point that they will go back to their home districts for the next two or three weeks, and they will be hearing that so o loudly. one of the most common things i heard in ohio. >> you had lisa murkowski who said i'm not up for reelection and i did what is best for my country. john mccain said i'm here, i want to move things forward, and he did, he you have susan collins who was challenged to a dual. what is the message now when you
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look at this and where do they go as they head home. >> i think it was a situation that this bill could not really be crafted in any way. that would please enough people. they brought the bill to the right. and they were balking at this. when you try to do something big like this, so many things wi will -- >> sorry to interrupt, the president is taking the stage. >> thank you. [ cheers and applause ]
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[ chanting usa ] >> well, thank you very much. this is certainly being home for me. i spent a lot of time right here. i was in queens, so i would come here and it was the luxury location for me. i love it. the people here, even coming in from the airport, i sat with nikki hailey, ambassador hailey who is so incredible. and she has seen crowds in her life, and she said those are really big crowds. crowds of people lining the streets all of the way over to here. it is really a special place. i really want today do it not because of location, but because as you know, i am the big, big believer and admirer of the people in law enforcement. okay? from day one.
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from day one. we love our police. we love our sheriffs and our i.c.e. officers. and they have been working hard. thank you. they have been working hard. together we're going to restore safety to our streets and peace to our communities. and we're going to destroy the vile criminal cartel ms 13 and many other gangs. but ms 13 is particularly violent. they don't like shooting people because it's too quick, it's too fast. i was reading one of these animals was caught and explaining they like to knife them and cut them and let them die slowly because that way it's more painful and they enjoy watching that more. these are animals.
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we are joined by police and sheriffs, state police from new york and new jersey. many of you i know. great friends. immigration and customs enforcement officers, law enforcement personnel from a number of federal agencies. we're loaded up with great people. that's what i call it. i want to just tell you all together right now and the reason i came, the most important sentence to me, on behalf of the american people i want to say thank you, thank you very much. thank you. [ applause ] and i don't think you know how
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much the public respects and admires you. you are saving american lives every day and we have your backs, believe me, we have your backs 100%. not like the old days. not like the old days. [ cheers and applause ] you know, when you want to take over used military equipment and they said you couldn't do it? my first day i said you can do it. it is disappearing so fast we have none left. you know it, you really knew how to get that. that's my honor and i'll tell you what, it's being put to good use. i especially wan to thank i.c.e. director, tom holman, who
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has done a testify riffic job in a short period of time. get up here, tom, i know you just spoke. tom is determined to rid our nation of cartels and criminals who are praying on our citizens. and i can only say to tom, keep up the great work. he is a tough guy, a tough cookie. someone said the other day they say him on television, someone, they were interviewed after that and they said he looks nasty and mean, and i said that's what i'm looking for. that's exactly what i was looking for. and for that i want to congratulate john kelly who is doing a fantastic job at director of oklahomaland
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securi -- homeland security. one of our real stars. our borders went down 78%. in effect, the southern border of mexico, we did them a big fav favor, believe me. they get very little traffic in there any more. they know they will not get through the border to the united states. so that whole group has been incredible, lead by general kelly. let me also express our gratitude to the members of the new york delegation here today, congressman chris collins, are is chris, chris, right from the beginning he said trump is going to win. that's why i like him. i didn't like him that much before, and now i love him. i'll never forget.
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d danavon, thank you, dan donovan. and i saw him in a debate and i said i think this guy is going to win, but he fought a pretty popular guy, and i said i think he is going to win, went heavy for him, and he won, won pretty easily. pretty good, i'm proud of you, great job. and of course, a legend, someone we all know very well, sort of my neighbor, he is really a great and highly respected man in washington, congressman peter king. very respected guy. he is a respected man that
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people like to ask opinions of. i do. they know the terrible pain and violence that ms 13 has inflicted on this community and this country. if you remember two years ago when i came down the escalator with melania and i made the speech, people coming into this country. people said what does he know, what is he talking about. two months later they said you know, he is right. i'm honored to have brought it to everyone's attention. the suffering and the pain that we were going through, and now you can look at the numbs, social security a whole different world and it will get better and better and better because we have been able to start nipping it in the bud. and ms 13, the cartel, spread
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gruesome bloodshed throughout the united states. the rest of them will be out of here quickly, right? quickly. good. so i asked tom on the plane, he was in air force one. i said how do you like it? he said i like it. i said how tough are these guys, he said they're nothing compared to my guys, nothing. that's what you need. sometimes that what you need, right? for many years they exploited america's weak borders and lax immigration enforcement to bring drugs and violence to cities across america. they're there because of weak political leadership, weak leadership, weak policing, and in many cases because the police were not allowed to do their
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job, i have met great police that have not been able to do their job because they have a pathetic mayor or a mayor that doesn't know what's going on. >> were you applauding for someone in particular? it is sad. it is sad. you look at what is happening and it is sad. but hopefully certainly in the country those days are over. you may have a little longer to wait. from now on we will force our laws, protect our borders and
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support our police like our police have never been supported before. we're going to support you like you have never been supported before. few communities are suffering worse at the hands of these ms 13 thugs than the people of long island. i grew up in long island and i didn't know about this. this is like a new phenomena we grief for these victims, ms 13 gang members have brutally murdered 17 beautiful young lives. in this area on long island alone. think of it. they butchered those little
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girls. they kidnap, they extort, they rape, rob, they pray on children, they should not be here. they stomp on victims, they slash them with machetes, and they staff them with knives. they have transforms peaceful parks and beautiful, quiet neighbors into bloodstained killing fields. they're animals. we cannot tolerate as a society the spilling of innocent young wonderful vibrant people. sons and daughters. even husbands and wives. we cannot kaccept this violence one day more. can't do it. and we're not growing to do it
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because of you we're not going to be able to do it, you're not going to allow it to happen and we're backing you up 100%. remember that, 100%. it is the policy of this administration to dismandle, decimate, and eradicate ms 13 at every other and i have to say, ms 13, that's a name rough groups, fine, we have a lot of others, and they were all let in here over a relatively short period of time, not during my period of time, believe me, but we're getting them out. they're going to jails and then back to their country. or they're going back to their country period. one by one we're liberating our american towns.
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can you believe i'm saying it, they're liberating the town. like in the old wild west, right? we're liberating our towns. i never thought i would be standing up here talking about liberating the towns on long island where i grew up. but that is what you're doing. i can tell you i saw some photos where tom's guys, rough guys, they're tough. i don't want to say it because they're going to say it's not politically correct. you can't have rough people, or just like they don't want rich people at the head of treasury. like i want a rich guy at the head of treasury, right? i want a rich guy at the head of
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commerce because we have been screwed so badly on trade deals, moy now to make a lot of moneyof for our country. and by the way, as i was walking up, they just gave me the numbers, our numbers were just came out this morning, gdp is up double from what it was in the first quarter. 2.6%. we're doing really well. we taook off those restrictions. some we're statutorily stuck with, but that will come up and we'll be able to cut more, but we sort of liberated the world of creating jobs. like you're liberating us and the people that live in areas. but i have to say one by one we
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are indeed frees up great american towns and cities under siege from gang violence. look at chicago. what is going on -- is anyone here from chicago? we have to send some of you. what is happening there. do we agree? is there something, maybe? i have to tell you one chicago story. they're having unbelievable violence. people being killed, four, five, six in a weekend, and i'm going,
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and one guy, he was boss, he talked like the boss, i would always take pictures with the police, myuys said don't do it, don't do it. other candidates didn't do it that i was beating by 40 points, can you believe it? maybe that is why i was winning, i always took the pictures with police. we're in chicago and we have massive motorcycle brigades, and they have to volunteer. from what i understand, they have to volunteer. i had the biggest brigades. i had brigades of almost 300 motorcycles. they volunteer from all over various states. but one guy was impressive. he was a rough cookie and a really respected guy. i could see he was respected. and he said come on, get over
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here, get over here, he has to get to work. so i said you're from chicago? yes, sir. i said what is going on? and he said it's a problem that can be straightenned ou estraig. >> i said how long would it take you to straighten out the problem. and he said if you gave me the authority, a couple days. >> you really mean it, a couple days. we know all of the bad ones. we know them all. the officers, you know all of the bad ones in your area. you know them by their names, you know them all, a couple days, a year and a half ago, i said give me your card and he gave me a cd and i sent it to the mayor. you ought to try using this guy. guess what happened? never heard. and last week they had another
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record. it's horrible. but we're just getting started. we will restore law and order on long island. we'll bring back justice to the united states. i'm very happy to have gotten a great, great justice of the united states supreme court. not only nominated, but approved. and your second amendment is safe. your second amendment is safe. feel very good about that. wasn't looking so good for the second amendment, huh? if trump doesn't win, your second amendment would be gone. i have a simple message today for every gang member and criminal alien threatening, so
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violencely, our people. we will find you, arrest you, jail you, and we will deport you. >> and you know we had problems with certain countries. we still do with a few but we will take care of them. any time we have a trade deficit, it is very easily. we have trade deficits with almost every country. we have certain countries in south america where they would not take the people back. and i said that's fine, no more trade, and then thtart taking their people back. theysed to say please call,
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please work it, and they used to just tell her no. we won't take back. they take back with us. every single time. we have very little problem. are we having any problem right now with that? you better believe it. give me the names of the few problems, we'll take care of it, i'm telling you. it's unbelievable. one of the old people, the people that represented the other administration. why didn't you use the power of economics. sir, we don't think one thing has to do with the other. >> so they won't take back the criminals there? i.c.e. officers just had the biggest crack down on criminal
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gangs in our country. in just six weeks, they arrested nearly 1400 suspects and seized more than 200 illegal firearms and some beauties. and nearly 600 pounds of narcotics. the men and women of i.c.e. are turning the tide against ms 13. we need more resources from congress and we're getting them. congress is opening up and doing approved health care last night, but you can't have everything, boy oh boy, they have been working on that one for seven years. can you believe that? the swamp. we'll get it done. we're going to get it done. i said from the beginning, let obama care implode and then do it. i turned tout be right. let obama care implode.
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right now we have less than 6,000 enforcement and removal officers in i.c.e. not enough to protect a nation of more than 320 million people. it is essential that congress fund more officers so we can eliminate ms 13 and root out the cartels from our country. we would like to get them out faster. and when you see these towns. when you see these thugs thrown in the back of a cruiser, i said please don't be too nice. when you put someone in the car and you're protecting their head. you put their hand over like don't hit their head after they just killed someone, you can take the hand away, okay?
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it is essential that congress fund hundreds more federal immigration judges and prosecutors and we need this quickly, quickly. we're going to dismantle these deadly networks and i have to tell you, you know the laws are so horrendously stacked against us. for years and years they have been made to protect the criminals. totally made to protect the criminal. if you do something wrong you're in more trouble than them. we have to have those judges quickly. in the meantime we're trying to change the laws.
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we're also working with a chairman on series of enforcement issuenforce ment measures to keep our country safe from crime and terrorism and in particular radical islamic terrorism. a term never uttered by past administrations. never uttered, did anyone ever hear that term? i don't think so. you heard it from me. that including cracking down on sanctuary cities, shield visa overstays, and they release dangerous reallies back into the united states communities. they are releasing them and there are so many deaths, and they know it will end that way
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end up that way, and it's so sad. we have to secure -- parents, incredib incredible. i got to know parents of children horribly killed. just the worst kind of death you can ever -- stuffed in barrels. and the person that did it was released and you look at the stielt and there was letter after letter after letter of people begging not to let this animal back into society. that this would happen they weren't saying it would happen over a long period of time, they said it would happen quickly saying he is a totally violent person. you cannot let this person out,
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and it sometimes ended on a the first day. you hold the parents and they're hugs and crying, their lives are destroyed. no one thinks about those people. they don't think about those people, they're devastated. we're ending so much of that. the laws are tough, they are stacked against us, but we're ending that so we're going to secure our border against illegal entry, and we will build the wall, that i can tell you. last night -- you don't read about this too much, $1.6 billion for the phase one of the one that is designed but the start of construction over a period of about two years, the start of construction for a
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great border wall. err we're going to build it. the wall is vital and vital is a tool for ending the humanitarian disaster brought on by drug smugglers. words that we have not heard too much. a term going on from the beginning of time, they say it is worse now than ever before. you go back 100 years, human traffic, and they say human trafficking is worse now, maybe than it has ever been in the history of this world. we need a wall, we also need it for the drugs because the drugs are not going through walls very easily. i'm a very good building b you people know it better than most.
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that's why i'm here, we'll build a good wall. we're going to build a real wall that works and it will have a huge impact on the drugs coming across. that could be a main reason you have to have it. an additional tool to stop the inflow. welcome in, come in, please. please. as a result ms 13 surged into the country and scoured and destroyed so much in front of it. new arrivals came in and they were all made rerecruits with each other, they fought, and then they fought outside of each
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other. it got worse and worse and we fought that back. more than 150,000 unaccompanied alien miners arrived at the border and we relaced all throughout the country to united states communities. it was a tremendou cost to local taxpayers and a cost to life and safety. nearly 4,000 from this wave were released into suffix county. and seven are now indicted for murder. you know about that. at least 42 alien miners have been recently implicated in ms 3 related violence including 19
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charged in killings or attempted kill ks. you say what happened to the old days when people came in the country and they worked and worked, and they had families and they paid taxes and they did all sorts of things and their families got stronger and they were closely knit, you don't see that. failure to enforce our immigration laws had predictable violence. under the trump administration, the nation is a nation of laws, and a nation that stands up for our law enforcement. -- law enforcement officers.
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we will defend our country, protect our communities, and put the safety of the american people first. and i'm doing that with law enforcement, and we're doing that with trade, and we're doing that with so much else. it is called america first. it is called, an expression i'm sure you have nev hrd of "make america great again. ha you heard that expression? >> that is my promise to each of you. that is the oath i took as president, and that is my sacred prejudice to the american people. thank you everyone here today, you're very special, special
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americans. and thank you to the great police, sheriffs, and i.c.e. officers. you do a spectacular job. the country loves you. the country respects you, you don't hear it, but believe me, they respect you as much as they respect anything there is to respect about our country. you are spectacular people. just so people understand fully, i leave you with the following, thank you and may god bless you, may god bless the united states of america. thank you very much. thank you. thank you very much.
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>> president trump in front of a friendly group, in front of suffix county. police officers, state police, mostly on message, talking about the support he will give to them, talking about gang violence, something that has caused 17 deaths since the beginning of 2017 on long island and using it to support his immigrati immigration, and also comments briefly on the health care debacle last night. after the promises the president made on the campaign trail, the republicans in the senate could not get the skiny repeal through. there are his events on long island. senior political reporter, national political reporter,
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joining the conversation here in new york, rick tyler, msnbc political analyst. former director of progressive media for the clinton campaign, and now director for sirius xm. we wondered if he would talk about the health care epic fail, and he did, here is what he saids ago. >> congress is really owning up and doing a job. they should have approved health care last night, but you can't have everything, boy oh boy. they have been working on that one for seven years. the swamp, but you'll get it done, we're going to get it get done. i said late obama care implode and i was right. >> rick tyler, he turned out to
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the be right. he skipped the part where he was for repeal. he laid all of this firmly on the doorstep of the republicans that didn't vote for it and the democrats, and he saw it comes from the beginning. >> yeah, he has been on every side of the issue as normal as usual. one thing she wrong about, the republicans know -- it's not whether or not obama care implodes or not, we have obama care and the president and the republicans, if they're going to implode and it may, it will be their fault. >> where does the president go with this? does he do anything? does he sit back and wait for it to implode? or does he do some of the things we talked about in the last several days which is there are
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things which he do to move this along. >> this is a tough question. i don't know if me will want to work with democra -- >> maybe he doesn't wan tm to get the credit. >> i think they are willing to work with republicans as long as it is off of the table, but i think unless he learns anything in terms of details about the policy, he is not going to be able to push health care or any other big piece of legislation. part of his job is to travel around the country and build consensus for legislation, especially something as massive as health care. so he didn't do -- he essentially pulling back, did nothing, watched it fail, and he is now blaming republicans. >> in addition to what he had to say, he spoke mostly on topic.
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he went off a little bit. he seemed to enjoy being in front of that friendly crowd. it sounded like 1.6 billion got approved, no one was reporting on it, ignoring the fact that is passed the house, and where is the money from mexico? >> yeah, i'm wondering what numbers he were discussing and where they were coming from. another discussion of something that got a huge amount of emphasis from republicans and the president, apparently he will double down on this now, now that borde security and fighting gangss a priority. there doesn't seem to be a l of excitement about taking this issue up in the congress, especially about trying to do
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something divisive with health care, and also doing something divisive in health care. >> working on what he talked about today, dealing with gangs, jeff sessions. >> that's right, he is also in the dog house, or was six or seven hours ago. it is a us against them brand of populism. he seed they particular gang members are animals, subhuman. he spoke about how they eat people, and slash them with nev knives, and it was a pivot to the dark populism that he seems
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to drive in. -- thrive in. >> one of the things he said, the laws are stacked against you. >> i don't think, we have seen the police brutality cases. it is something they're not allowed to do, they're brutalizing the community and they're getting away with it. no one would say it is tipped against the police, i would say we need more balance in that regard. >> and he talked oobt the bloodstained killings fields of long island. and if no one knew, they would not know the hamptons were there, fire island is there. there is a thriving millions of people that live there and work there every day. >> yes, he painted a very different picture, but i think it is ironic all of the work is being done by his beleaguered
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attorney general jeff sessions. who is in el salvador, doing the work on this, moving his agenda forward that he is hitting them on. >> but it president and this happens when he feels like he's had a receptive crowd, that he seemed to enjoy himself there and presumably he was feeding off of what was a positive energy from the crowd. what was your sense of actually being there? >> absolutely. he was enjoying himself up on the stage. this was a crowd of invited guests and local police, and they were on their feet the entire time applauding him at every moment that he paused in speaking. he knew when he was going to get those aplausz and he would pause for the are crowd with a big smile on his face. and he played to this crowd. look, these were police officers and he encouraged this elm to sort of rough up these gang
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members, saying please don't be too nice when you're putting them in the back of a squad car. and that certainly got a lot of applause here. and it really did feel like a campaign event. he was talking again about crowd size as he was coming in, the crowds that he and nikki haley noticed as they were motorcading over from the airportment and so it really was a president who was energized and looking for that type of support. it didn't seem like he really was laying out a case for legislation but larry enjoying the crowd and playingo what they wanted to hear. >> kristen, thank you for that. thanks to all of you as well. the saber rattling continues by north korea. launking another intercontinental ballistic missile this morning. we're live from the pentagon with what it means for our allies in the region and all of us around the world.
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just to give you an idea of how serious it is, general dunn ford called his counterpart in south korea to discuss military options. it's remarkable that they're talking about this, that they're being public about this, saying openly they're discussing military options. and they teased out at least the scientists have teased out how far this missile can go with everything we know. the west coast of the united states is clearly within range, including denver all the way down to has hang, and that doesn't take into account the rotation of the earth. you add that in and it's conceivable that major cities in the northeast of the united states of america are now within range of north korea. chris. >> and they've moved up the timeline, steve, for this potential threat from 2020 to 2018. now you have general dunn ford calling his counterpart. the problem is and we've faukd about this you and i before, the options are terrible. >> the options are awful. i mean, right now you have a situation and really you either have to have as we understandy
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cher man said on your show earlier a very, very concerted diplomatic effort that drives all of the parties, russia, china kaish. >> who is going to do that? that's the question. >> question what, rex tillerson is off on vacation somewhere taking time off. there's no infrastructure right now. the only kind is to see something like the iran deal and the trump administration support real high on the iran deal as a model. almost every simulation i've seen on the very low end, low end puts casualties of something like that at about 250,000 people. so it is a terrible thing in which we all become boxed spew something where there are no solutions. this is a diplomatic solution, but right now we're six to 18 months away from north korea becoming an icbm capable nuclear power that could create great harm and havoc in the united states, not notwithstanding our allies. >> iks to sl months, is that the latest assessment.
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>> earlier this week the washington reported that there is a new defense intelligence agency assessment that moved it up to 2018. before it had been 20 tent. a lot of that is based on the fact that this july 4th test, the one that they did earlier this month was so successful. it's the first time they shot a two-stage rocket, threw it up above the atmosphere. it came down. it didn't disintegrate. one thing they don't know is if they've miniature iced a nuclear weapon to put it on top of one of these missiles and it doesn't look like they've achieved controlled re-entry. so they don't have nearly the amount of sophistication that the u.s. has. the u.s. has tested ground-based intercept ors. these are things that can maybe knock a missile out of a sky. they had a successful one last month. so that's where we're at on the technology side. but the fact that the pentagon is publicly discussing military options with our allies in south korea is a signal of just how serious this has become in the last hour or so. i think we need to wait to see
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if president trump gets a read out of this on his flight back. he has secure communications on air force one on his flight back to washington, d.c., chris. >> the other quit item just to add, we thought we had an ace in the hand which was cyber sabotage. we were blowing up their missiles. we were putting in malwear in their systems. it's clear north korea has shrugged that off. that's very disconcerting to the u.s. senators that got classified briefings. >> are they going to shrug off sancons as well? >> well, i think right now they are. and we don't have -- sanctions don't matter unless you have china with you, and we don't have china with us. that effort by donald trump has not worked out well, and autos got to get back at it also with russia, with japan, with south korea. they've got to pull all these together because thus far north korea is not -- has not been moved at all by any sanctions. there's nothing the united states can do on sanctions. we're not null on that front. >> thanks to both of you. and that's where we're going to leave it on this friday.
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be sure to keep up with me on twitter at chris jansing. katy terr will be back with you same time same place monday. ali velshi picks things um right now. >> have a great weekend. who saw that coming? for the past two years that's been perhaps the fundamental question in all of politics. think about it. nearly every day any news story orbits around that central theme. who could have predicted the 2016 election where in a field of more than a dozen candidates with last names like bush and clinton an eccentric tv reality star and billionaire would emerge as the winner. donald trump apparently now the voice of the common man. who, who could have foreseen the first few months of the trump administration, plagued with questions about russia with enough palace intrigue to make the kay os of house of cards like boring. and who could have plea dikd that after seven kwlooefrs of saber-rattling, clarm orgize for the fiery

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