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total fabrication. it is just an excuse for the greatest loss in the history of american politics. >> also, the attorney general takes action to plug the leaks in the trump administration, and vowing criminal charges against anyone who is giving information to the media and creating a special fbi unit to handle investigations. >> i have this warning for would-be leaker, don't do it. we will not allow rogue anonymous sources with security clearances to sell out our country. >> and we are watching something happening right now. the united nations security council are having a vote to come up at any time in this hour, and the coming hours on the u.s.-sponsored resolution to put pressure on north korea after the recent missile test. we will be watching that for you. all righty. happening right now, search and rescue operations underway
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for three u.s. marines missing after the aircraft crashed off of the east coast of australia. the marine core says the mv-22 osprey had launched from the u.s.s. banham when it went down 8:2323 local time. 23 of the people were rescued. and the president has been brief ed on the crash, and give you more information when we get it. now we go to new jersey, where president trump is enjoying the fir first official vacation since arriving. he arrived at his golf course yesterday, and the white house is going to undergo a 3.4 million renovation, and all of the money is not going to be able to solve the trump administration's leaking problem. the president is hoping that the attorney general can do that, and jeff sessions alongside national intelligence director dan coats announcing yesterday that the white house will crack
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down on the leakers. >> i strongly agree with the president and condemn in the strongest terms the staggering numbers of leaks undermining the ability of our government to protect this country. >> despite that crackdown by the current a.g. and national intelligence drirector, the administration remaining haunted by the former national security advi adviser michael flynn. "the new york times" reporting that special counsel robert mueller is now seeking white house documents on flynn specifically with the investigators questioning the witnesses about whether he was secretly paid by turkey's government during the final months of the presidential campaign. motion's kelly o'donnell is live for us south of new jersey and near bedminster, and kelly, have we heard from flynn or the team about the latest report coming from the new york times? >> well, the attorney for michael flynn was reached by nbc news, and he is declining comme comment, and that is not a surprise given the nature of the investigation, and the potential jeopardy for michael flynn, but
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"the new york times" did report that there are members of the team working with special council robert moo-- special counsel robert mueller seeking do documents for his employment and financial records and anything supportive of the investigation, and not subpoenaed, but a reque request. i have been in touch with the special counsel to the president, ty cobb who is working inside of the white house, and this is separate from the president's white house lawyer lawyers ash and he is not commenting on the flynn request or any specifics coming into the office, but he says that they are cooperating and working with mueller as needed, so that is as far as they want to go in talking about this specifics. but this is an indication of where the investigation may be looking, and some of what "the new york times" reports is that there are concerns being raised by the special counsel that flynn was potentially receiving payment from the turkish
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government in latter part of the presidential campaign as a retired flag officer, a general, and this is something that is prohibited specifically, and so they are looking at piecing some things together there. and that is what we know about that. and more broadly, as you have heard us say before, richard, the white house is trying to distance itself from the russia investigations around and the president when i was in west virginia with him, particularly tried to turn the crowd of an arena felled with his supporters to discredit these investigation, and to say that there is nothing to it, and that is the president's way using his humor, and bombast to say that there is nothing to see there. richard >> yeah, he was saying that anybody from russia, right, to the crowd. and kelly o'donnell from bridgewater, new jersey, covering the president for us on this saturday. thank you, kelly. we will bring in ned price, and msnbc national security analyst, and the former security director of the national security director, and niles standish, and kelsey snell as well.
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and so, what should we make from this with the reporting of the new york time, and the move from michael flynn requesting documents related to michael flynn and what that might involve? >> so in is clearly a deepening of the russia probe focusing very much ob michael flynn's contacts with turkey in this instance. so what we can obviously glean from that is a broadening of the investigation as it pertains to flynn. now, of course, there is a certain irony here, because president obama at the very first post election meeting with president-elect trump warned him against hiring michael flynn, and the president-elect obviously disregarded that advice and it is michael flynn who has proven the thread that the prosecutors can keep pulling upon to cause the white house considerable difficulties, and i think that we are seeing a new chapter in that book right now. >> and in that book, and in that chapter here, ned, includes the word turkey. it includes the question of
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payments, and it includes another development for michael flynn that this white house as kelly o'donnell was tell thing us, they want to move on from. >> that is right, richard. we know that michael flynn was acting as unregistered foreign agent in the transition, and the short tenure as national security adviser in the white house, but the question that the prosecutors are looking at and now cognizant after the fact that money translates into motivation, and so the question is what did these in some cases, fairly vast sums of money translate into if anything when it came to michael flynn's actions as a key campaign official, and key transition official when he was subsequently named the national security adviser designate, and when he was national security adviser under three week, and did he do something because of the money, and some of which he failed to declare on belaugh of the client, which included
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turk turkey, and the affiliations with the russian affiliates as well. >> and ned, turkey does not equal russia, and russia not equaling turkey, but the lobbying is quite pref flent va the beltway, and tell us what that relationship might mean under the umbrellaf of russia since that is the focus as of late. >> well, that is the missing link, richard, to determine a link between russia and turkey in this case. and the only link that we have seen that is clear as day so far the apparent fact that michael flynn could be bought. michael flynn on election day, and you may recall wrote an op-ed in the hill calling for the denigrate a turkish cleric based in the u.s. on behalf of his turkish client, but we have not figured out how these two clients that michael flynn was apparently working for, the turkish government and the russian entities how they
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intersect, but it is something that the prosecutors are taking a close look at. >> and kelsey, on the hill, and just this last week, the senate as you were specifically reporting and know so well, took steps to say no recess appoi appointments, and in this congress as they are now going on the break, they are watching the headline, and watching this investigation move forward, because they won't take a break. moo mueller's team moves forward with more strength and heads in the coterie, and what are you hearing in terms of the hill as they are on vacation, how do they monitor what is going on? >> particularly the senators and the house members, they will continue to get updated briefings throughout the time even if they are not here, they have access to the staff work. the staff is all here, and continuing to work, and they are in touch to the extent that they are allowed to, you know, getting information about the investigations, but it is important to remember that the mueller investigation is happening on a separate track from the investigations in
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congress, and we are seeing the senate investigation go onner very aggressively forward, and the staff that works on those thing, as i said, they are still here in washington and working and preparing for the potential additional information they may need to get when the senators come back. >> and i also want to shift to the new chief of staff. we have had a full week, if you will of the new chief of staff in the white house. and nile, some reporting that "wall street journal" specif specifically as i allow to it now, and where he is meeting and at what time he is meeting, 8:00, 8:45 as opposed to 8:45 before in the morn, and the table they are using, and what are you sensing now that they have a new chief of staff in the first week? >> i think that john kelly has made an impact, and i get that from my own reporting as well as from the other examples that you are mentioning. he does seem to have worked very hard to refine or to smooth the information flow to president trump. he hasn't tried and he is not
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going to apparently try to curtail the president's use of twitter or the other social media pronouncements. but kelly's argument seems to be that if you can stop bad information getting to president trump, then you avoid all sorts of problems down the line. clearly, john kelly is a military man and imposing that level of discipline, and as well as staff, and what happens between him and president trump is members of president trump's family including his daughter and son-in-law who have been central players in this administration, and how does that work in terms of the chain of command, and that is something that only time will tell. >> and kelsey, quickly on the hill, what is that reaction, and what does it mean in terms of the relationship right across the way which has not been smooth within the first six months? >> a sigh of relief i think, and don't get me wrong, because reince priebus is well liked in the hill, and a lot of friends
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particularly in house speaker paul ryan, but the idea of more order, and this military approach to organizing things made people feel, and republicans, particularly in the senate, i think feel like there would be a structure for them to work with, and that they would have some hope of predictabil y predictability, because that is the problem here, nobody can predict what this white house is going to do, and who speaks for this white house, and to kind of streamline the process and to have a hierarchy is going to make it easier for people trying to execute the legislative agenda, and know who they are talking to, and who is speaking for the president, and what is the right approach, and that is going to make a big difference for them. >> and so much happening in the week. thank you, kel sichlt sey, and see what next week brings. thank you all. >> and travel at your own risk, and for the first time in history, the naacp gives a travel ban centering around missouri, and after the break, we will talk to the man behind the warning.
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welcome back. the naacp has issued a historic travel warning for the state of missouri. the organization says that african-americans should use extreme caution, because of the number of race-related incidents okay cured in that state. the advisory is in response to senate bill 43 and recently signed by the missouri governor eric gritens which makes it h d harder to sue based on race, religion or jegender, and this the latest in the complex race relations with the police and the shooting of michael brown, and joining me is rob schappell who is the president of the missouri chapel?
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>> yes. it is. >> covering a all of the bases. and so why has missouri has this long issue related to race, and we brought up the most recent one, michael brown, and what is happening now? >> we have looked at some of the statistics such as the vehicle stops reports, and others have been collected anecdotally, and we have seen cases where the people have taken a wrong turn in missouri and wound up dead while never charged with a crime, but in police custody. at the same time, we have seen a growing incidents of people concerned about their civil rights, and now we have a new change in the supreme court that will make it more difficult to bring concerns.
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>> and what do you believe it is going to bring it and make it more difficult for anyone to fight discrimination in missouri? >> well, we have fought many times in decades to get away from the jim crow legacy, and even in missouri, and now, however, individuals who suffer harassment or discrimination cannot sue the person who did it. that is different. it is fundamentally different than any other law in the united states. it says that those who commit the crimes against each other civilly, cannot be sued for the violation violations. >> supporters of the bill are saying that it would say that this is needed to,crying wolf, that is what is in parentheses what it s and what is your response there? >> the only individual talking about frivolous lawsuits is senator gary romine, and he
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introduced the legislation, and he said that after being sued after an employee who is african-american in his stores was called the nsh-word on occasion, and then he refused or the store refused according to the allegations in the lawsuit to rent to people who were black. well, that is the only person who i have said or even has arctic isolated that there are frivolous lawsuits, and so other than that it is the missouri chamber of commerce, but no businesses have come forward to say it is not necessary, and it is not quantified and this is a concan versation that we tried to have with the chamber and the governor and it has not been done. >> and rod, the report that you know so well in 016 showing that the black drivers were 75% more likely to be stopped than the whites. when we were on the streets there in ferguson, missouri, and a painful time, and i know it is painful for you being there in the state of missouri, and have things gotten better? >> i think that if we are looking at the vehicle stops
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report, i have to say no, that the actual number of african-americans pulled over by law enforcement throughout the state have risen despite the effort efforts of education, and in some cases discipline to peace officers who do not ar the tick you late the america's vision of equality on the street as we do in our hearts f. we are looking at the law recent areally passed by eric gritens, it is going to legal discrimination in the state of missouri, and if anything, things are getting wor worse. >> that would be a painful headline. rod schappelle, thank you so much, and president of the missouri naacp, and have a great saturday. >> thank you. thank you very much. as the u.n. security council is taking issue with north korea right now, secretary of state rex tillerson is heading to the philippines to get other countries to follow suit with him. and next, his attempt at a dip low matic solution.
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within the hour, the u.n. security council is expected to the vote on tough new sanctions on north korea. the new resolution drafted for the retaliation of the latest country's missile tests. earlier theday, a group of four ministers gathered in a summit in the philippines demanding that north korea comply with the u.n. resolution, and claiming that the nuclear program is threatsening peace and security in the region. rex tillerson is at that summit called acsean. and after north korea tested a intercontinental ballistic missile a week ago that could reach the united states.
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we go our reporter. >> it is 26 against 1. 26 countries who will tell the one country, north korea, to stop disrupting the security of asia by its missile program. rex tillerson is here to pile on the pressure of north korea over the missile program and isolate this already isolated country even more, and to say that two long range missile test s ths t year are wrong, and two nuclear tests last year were wrong, and to condemn the 14 missile tests north korea has conducted so far this year. ideally, the united states would like to punish north korea, and throw north korea out of this asean organizational together, but it is unlike ly to happen, because china, the only ally of north korea won't allow that. and the united states, and south korea, and japan, they will lead the condemnations here at the
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summit, and north korea through the foreign minister is going to say that the only reason that we are carrying out the tests is in self-defense fwams at the provocations of the united states. so, no action will actually be taken against north korea, but it is going to be a chance for rex tillerson and the north korean foreign minister to at least talk at each other, and not sure if they will ever talk together, but rex tillerson will have at least first time face-to-face dialogue with north korea. and another thing, behind all of it is the united states' relations with russia and china. and rex tillerson is going to meet the russian and the chinese foreign minister, and donald trump said that the relations with russia were worse than ever, and dangerous, and he said that china does nothing for us on north korea, and just talk. and rex tellerson is going to be having more talks with the chinese and the russians and a lot of talk at 24 conference, but richard, don't expect any action here. there won't be any action taken against north korea.
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back to you. >> bill, thank you so much for the report. and nbc news bill neely there in the philippines. thank you. with the president on va case, and congress in restes, where does health care go from here? where does it stand? and why the republicans are attempting to repeal obama care, and why that attempt got harder. (class) ewwww! (boy) sorry. (dad) don't worry about it. (mom) honey, honey, honey, honey! (vo) at our house, we need things that are built to last. that's why we got a subaru. (avo) love. it's what makes a subaru, a subaru. get 0% apr financing for 63 months on all new 2017 subaru legacy models. now through august 31st. you can use whipped topping made ...but real joyful moments.. are shared over the real cream in reddi-wip. ♪ reddi-wip.
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thank you for staying with us. when the lawmakers left washington for the typical august recess, they also left behind unfinished business when it comes to health care. out sooside of the beltway, the people with medical issues still struggling to find affordable health care like in rural oklahoma where our reporter is there for us this afternoon at a clinic in idabel where patients have been lining up for hours to receive medical attention and some behind you. and you have been seeing a steady flow of people in the clinic so far, and what kind of care will the folks get, and what are they telling you?
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>> well, they are going for all kinds of care, richard, u talking about health care, dental care, and vision care, and this is a sampling of some of the hundreds of the people who have come through the doors, and seeking system of the care at this remote area medical clinic. it is something that they do all of the time. and they have them twice a month, and they have been doing it for decades seeing thousands upon thousands of people. this clinic is happening as you mentioned that the country is grappling of what is going owithin the health care system, and the affordable care act. and take a listen to some of the people that we spoke to earlier about how they ended up here at the free mobile clinic, and take a listen. >> well, actually, i come to try to get me some new glasses, and get some dental work and tooth cleaning as well. >> and so do you are have health insuran insurance, and what is the situation? >> no, i don't have health insurance, because it is too much to afford for me right now
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to make the bills and get by for the month. so i am kind of here though, because it is free, and good for the community. it is a blessing for them to be here to do it for all of of us here, you know. >> i quit working five years ago, and i lost my job five years ago due to health issues, and for that reason, i cannot work, and i cannot aftford the off market health insurance, and so i am not covered for any insurance. >> and so if it weren't for the mobile clinic -- >> yeah, i would not be getting treatment, and i would not be getting glasses, and i would not get my teeth cleaned. no, i cannot afford it. >> and that is something that we heard over and over again, and these are people who cannot afford the health insurance in the marketplace, and they have no choice but to come up to the pop-up health clinics like this one today, and by the way, when all is said and done this weekend, they expect to see at least 800 people in the community alone. richard? >> that is great stuff there at
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the pop-up clinic. and maya, what is the feedback that you have heard from those who are going to the clippic, and those who are running the clinic, and what is the view on the big debate that they have obvio obviously been watching in washington, d.c.? >> well, set funny, because we have spoken to democrats and republicans and people with no party association, and people who voted for trump, and those who didn't, but the one thing that is very common, there is something very broken in the health care system in msh ameri and it needs to be repaired and whatever it is, they want to be a solution of it. >> and appreciate the report and glad you are inside, because it is very hot. and republican governors are working with the trump administration to make reforms at the state levels, arkansas, kentucky, maine, wisconsin and indiana have drafted plans to change requirements for medicaid
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which provides health insurance for those who are disabled. and now, there are others who want the to implement time limits and others want to charge the monthly premiums for the recipients or lower eligibility at all. and in march, the health administrator senator tom price and also the head of the medical crisis have been working together to propose medicaid cut s. and in the mirst time, the aca gained approval to the show that signs to approve and repeal the law are in jeopardy, but president trump is not backing
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down to appeal, and even letting obamacare implode by cutting off the cost sharing subsidies, and not paying them. a bipartisan group of lawmakers want to prevent, that and proposed ways to preserve the health care market like fully fund cost sharing reduction payment to insurers, and also, to change the employer mandate to only apply to the companies with 500 or more employee, and so there are some of the ideas there. and joining me is representative elizabeth estee of connecticut can, and what is the solutions, and i listed some of them, right. what is going to be fixing, and set the issue that you are look at, it is the private side of a aca and how to the fix that. >> absolutely, and the big issue that we are looking at, richard,
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it is the individual market and we heard the reporter, maya, talking about the challenges in a place like oklahoma. folks are going bare, and not getting the coverage and not because they are not worried about the health care, but because the premiums are so high, and the instability around the repeal, and the replace, and the skinny repeal, and maybe a repeal, and straight up repeal, and it has meant that insurance companies that are setting the the rate fos for the next year, they don't know what to set them at, and that is meaning less affordable, and this is a problem that we need to fix, and it is not a democratic or the a republican problem, but a problem for the american people, and that is why the bipartisan group decided to roll up the sleeves and come up with some ideas to put on the table. >> and representative, not the throw shade on the effort, but why to you think that your bipartisan group will get this done, and it has not been able to get done for how long now? >> well, fwan, richard, everybody owns this problem at this point. the american people are tired of
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the blame game between the democrats and the republicans and who is responsible for what still ails us in health care, and people just want to be healthy and they don't care at this point about anybody's campaign promise. they want the american people not to worry about paying the bill, and they want to know tha t the ids can can get well. that's a shared responsibility by members of congress, and i think that there is growing appetiter for it now. >> oh, there is, and my question to you, representative, and why do you think that you have the secret sauce here, and you and the fellow representatives from the other side of the isle, and what is going to make et different? support from the party leadership? >> well, we have heard that when we had the cratering last week in the senate, the attempt to to have a single party jamming through legislation in the dark of the night without both parties at the table, and without the american people knowing what is going on, and the american people rose up, and not the parties, but the american people rose up, and said, enough, this is not working for us, and lamar alexander who is in charge in
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his committee on the senate side said in september, we will be starting hearings on some of the bills, and that is what we need to do. and so it is not like we have a secret sauce, but what we are saying is that we are a group of 43 democrats and republicans in the house, and we are willing to put some ideas on the table, and we think that everybody, the american people and members of congress on both parties the need to roll up the sleeves and fix it. >> and no doubt. as you were watching the other house, and the senate moving forward, you are looking at three leaders, but two leaders pushing against mitch mcconnell's efforts here, and susan collins and lisa murkowski, and two very strong republican women who said no. are you working with them? >> we have been in contact with the folks in the senate, and the democrats and the republicans, and again, frankly to cut the campaign promises from 2010 or 2012 or 2014 or 2016, and what
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they know they have kids who are sick, and seniors who need the health care, and they are sick of the blame, and they want us to fix it. i hear it every single day. >> well, good luck with that effo effort, and do you have a website for it? it is great. >> well, yeah, we weren't going to get to it, because it is so difficult, but at some point, everybody just needs to get to work on this. and the american people have to have it fixed. >> and hats off to all of you on those efforts. thank you. and up next, cracking down on immigration, and what is being said about has hurt the economy.
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the r.a.i.s.e. act is going to replace the low-skilled system with the points-based system for receiving a green card, and this competitive application process is going to favor applicants who can speak english, financially support themselves and their families and demonstrate skills that will contribute to our economy. >> that was president trump there backing a new immigration proposal to slash legal immigration in half, and favored admitting english-speakers as you heard there into the united states, and the plan is getting pushback from members of his own party including senator lindsey graham, and take a listen. >> the truth is that the employers can s cas canned s s
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the cows come home, and there are areas like meat packing, and other areas that the legal visas keep the businesses from closing or moving overseas. >> and so the campaign promise is to gain some scrutiny after some transcripts with the private conversation of the phone conversations were leaked and he said, i have to have mexico pay for the wall, i have to. and for them to refuse to pay for wall, the taxpayers will be paying for the bill, and the house has approved 1.6 billion for the wall so far, and just a fraction of the cost so far. and the joining us now is the anchor of the npr latino usa, and also, marianna latinso and also, michael appleby from the
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policy and studies institute. and give us more on the details of this? >> itt is richard, the reforming the immigration system for a strong economy act, and it would get rid of the what is called the green card lottery, and slash legal immigration by half, and slightly less than a million to half a million, and it would favor foreign immigrants with quote special skills. and so the immigrants would be judged on the point system that would judge them on the facers or the like english proficiency, and age and job offers and education, and the ideal candidate for the r.a.i.s.e. act would be the 20 to 26-year-old english-speaking ph.d. student who has a job offer three times the medium income of where they are getting the employment opportunity, and some say that we don't have enough of those english-speaking coders, right? but the critics are saying it does not recognize the contributions of the unskilled contributions to the american
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economy for one, and secondly, it does not let the employers make the hiring decisions as to who they need nfor the dairy fam or for their crops or the restaurants, and it would essentially let the i.c.e.t agents determine who is the ideal candidate to come to the united states. >> and so if the i.c.e. agents, maria, and who is affected is the question, and what are the choice, and the criteria, and we have a sense of what is it of what is listed so far in the r.a.i.s.e. act, but it is not just asian country, but african countries and other countries where large numbers of immigrants come to the great country are sourcing from, if you will. >> and what we are really talking about is changing the whole notion of immigration to the united states. it is serious, and we should have these conversations to understand what it means deeply and we should understand the possibilities of this actually happening are small, and nonetheless, there is real impact, and people are wondering
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about their families, and people are wondering as i said, even on the msnbc, and my dad would not have been allowed necessarily to come in, even though he was a stwreenous, because he was spoke with a very, very thick accent, and what is happening in the conversation that the we are not talking about for example is that i.c.e. right now, they are in fact going after the people who are here, and we know that ms-13 has been brought up a lot. >> yes. >> and just some numbers is about 1,378 members of gangs were picked up by i.c.e. about 900 of those were u.s. citizens. so what is happening now is that i.c.e. is going after in this roundup that immigrants are all criminals is that the american citizens are picked up, and the feeling on the ground is that if you are an immigrant or the children of immigrant right now, you are not only thinking about the future, but thinking of what is happening right now now on the street, and it is
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problematic. >> and by those standards, kevin, the thought is if you are getting highly skilled and engli english-speaking immigrants to come into the country, many of us in the conversation, the four of us, our parents or grandparents would not have been able to come into the great country, but don't we need those who are coming into the country who are quote, unquote blue collar workers, low-skilled workers, because if this country were to move forward, the argument has been made by the current administration, that we need to have strong manufacturing for instance, and strong capability in that space. >> totally, and richard, this bill is taking mus te ine ing u direction. and we have aging population, and so we will need low-skilled workers to work in sectors such as agriculture, and construction and not less. we are not canada, but the largest economy in the world, and the most diverse economy in the world, and we need all skill level
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levels in order to make the economy grow into the future. it is interesting that the president will cite, you know, the low unemployment rates and the low nest 17 years and the highest stock market ever at the same time that he is introducing this bill, and my question is, what is the problem? we have economy humming, and wo workers at all skill level and why abandon that to not prepare us for the future, and prepare to help the economy in the future? >> that is sounding like a reor the cal -- rhetorical question for you, kevin, because he has something called the base that he is talking to out there in america, and you have been out there in the field reporting on this topic, marianna, out there in the election cycle, and speak about those affected and not just the individuals, but the business owners? >> i have been reporting on this for years, richard, and i have an immigrant who has been through the motions, and let me give you the specific example of a dairy farmer in with wisconsin. this man is a trump supporter,
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and he constitutes the base, right, and he says i don't need the high skilled immigrants, but i need more mexican immigrants to come here legally, and he says it takes not months or years to train them, but he needs the work to keep the dairy farm going, and in the 18 years working at the 2 farm, he say thass that i have not seen a single job application from an american in 18 year, and tending to the cows, and this is a 24/7 job. you don't get any holiday, and so you have to be committed to this, and so in a way, he knows that the workforce that he needs and the state like the cheese state. so say that immigrant workforce is taken from him, and this high skilled, and you know, the immigration proposal is not going to solve the needs that he has, and who is impacted not only the dairy farmers, but also consumers when they go to buy a bottle of milk, and it is going to be can costing 90% more than it costs today. >> so it is really about people opening up their eyes and living in the present, as opposed to buying into a rhetoric that is
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coming from any particular viewpoint. you know, you are look around and actually in most places in the heartland, where i have been reporting in minnesota or in nebraska, most people are act l actually in this diversity, right. i was in a town in minneapolis, minnesota, where it was mexican immigrant, and white folk, and somali refugees who are now american citizen, and figuring it out, and talking to the each other, and local politic, and there is not a sense of fear, because as we have heard, if there is really an economic crisis right now, perhaps then you could understand that this is kind of like, we have to get rid of them, but the economy is growing, and the question is why are we doing this, and what does it really mean when they are going to be coming for your neighbor, right? that is what is happening in the heartland that we don't often talk about. >> and last word to you here, kevin, and this is the question, right? because of the complexity of the immigration here, and the
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r.a.i.s.e. act trying to address one part of that >> and richard, it is adult-b e adult-based on the ideology, and the authors of the bill and those behind it want to lower the imfwrants in the country, and the types of immigrants in the country, and so it is a population bill, and not an immigration bill the take it seriously, and not going to the reform the system in a way to prepare us for the future, but it is a political tool that the president is using to feed the base, and to, to underscore that support. it should not have any legs in the congress. >> when we bring it back to the everyday people here, maryan na, and the president is saying that the act will raise wages for the americans. is that the right way though? because we are producing the supply workers and you have to pay them more so they will work. >> and who is going to be working in the manufacturingk and in the dairy farms, and the
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str strawberry crops in california. you are going to go into almost ev any restaurant? washington, d.c., and where perdue and cotton have their n dinnersb and you will see that in these restaurants, the low-skilled workers and many of them undocumented and the contribution of the workforce to the american economy, cannot be underestimated here and when you don't take that into account, you cannot promise people a stronger economy. and to maria's point before, you said that, maria, you don't know if your own ancestors would have been allowed under this bill, and trump's, own ancestor, and mike pence's ancestor, and trump's wife even would be subjected to that. >> and certainly a as the white house is pivoting to immigration, it is not easier than the other big topics of the time like health care. and maria hinojosa, and mary yan
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