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website was taken down after president trump took office, pending review they say. for us, for now, that's our broadcast for a monday night as we start a new week. thank you for being here with us. and tonight, on "all in." >> hopefully you'll be so proud of your president. >> 200 days in, a rage tweeting president tries to shore up his base. >> the approval rating among republicans and trump voters is down slightly. it needs to go up. >> tonight why president trump is lashing out amid reports his vice president is already gunning for his job. and may interview with the senator targeted in trump's twitter tirade. then -- >> if he finds evidence of a crime, can he look tlat? >> the deputy attorney general's public defense of the mueller investigation. plus, the fcc decision that could give the president access to a vast television empire.
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>> and that's the bottom line. >> and about that working vacation -- >> everyone having a good time? >> "all in" starts right now. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. on the 200th day of his presidency, on the collapse of his first major legislative effort, a cascade of staff shake-ups and new chief of staff installed to discipline the white house, the president of the united states kicked off the first full day of summer vacation with a long string of rage tweets. his approval stands at 38% in gallup's daily tracking poll. the president tweeted the trump base is far bigger and stronger than ever before despite some phony fake news polling p. look at rallies in penn, ohio, iowa and west virginia. the fake news russian story, stock market, border security, military strength, jobs, supreme court pick, economic enthusiasm, deregulation and so much more have driven the trum base even
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closer together. will never change. this president cares about who he considers his true constituents. even among supporters there are real signs of erosion. in the quinnipiac poll for example the president has fallen sharply from 67% who strongly approved of his job performance last month down to 43% today, 14-point drop. even white house counsellor kellyanne conway who coined the term facts there is a problem. >> his approval rating among trump voters is down slightly. it needs to go up. they are telling him, just enact your program. don't worry about congress that isn't supporting legislation to get big ticket items done and don't worry about the all the distractions and diversions and discouragement that others who are still trying to throw logs in your path are throwing your way. >> the president is concerned
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about shoring up his base comes just as he is losing his grip on republican law makers who have been increasingly willing to defy him in public pt the president demanded the senate try again op on obamacare repeal before moving on to other business. republican hatch, and frequent defender of administration responded we're not going back it health care. we're in tax now. as far as i'm concerned, they shot their wad on health care and that's the way it is. senators office later explained that was an old-fashioned military metaphor. a number of high profile republicans including notably the current vice president of the united states began a shadow campaign of 2020 amid new doubts of the president's political future. the vice president generously denied the time's conclusions calling the article disgraceful and offensive p tp is no coincidence that those early rumblings have begun just as the russian investigation seems to be accelerating.
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there are reports that robert mueller is making use after washington, d.c. based grand jury. democratic senator blumenthal responded to those reports in an interview this morning. >> there is no minimum for underestimating that attack by russia. it was purposeful and relentless and it involved propaganda and hacking into our voting machines or at least an attempt to do it and potential collusion by the trump campaign and obstruction of justice. that investigation must be pursued. >> almost exactly ten minutes later the president tweeted interesting to watch senator richard blumenthal of connecticut talking about hoax russian collusion when he was a phony vietnam con artist. never in u.s. history has anyone lied or defrauded voters like senator blumenthal. he told stories about vietnam battles and conquests and it was all a lie. he cried like a baby and and begged forforgiveness. and now he judges collusion?
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he did serve in the marine reserves during the vietnam era after taking several military deferments but never saw combat. we should note the president received multiple deferments but did not serve in the military despite coming of age during vietnam years. the president took one more shot at blumenthal. i think senator blumenthal should take a nice long vacation in vietnam so least he can say he was there. your response to the president's tweets? >> there is an ongoing special council investigation. it is real. it is based on real facts.scil i that's the issue that matters and that's where our focus and national security and rule of law are at risk. and those challenges aught to be where our attention goes. it really is not about me.
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>> i understand that and i understand why you're saying that. i understand why you would hold to that. as a human being, what is your reaction when the president of the united states goes on a rant about you? >> i won't be distracted by these bullying tweets. if anything, they strengthen my resolve and determination to work for protecting the special counsel against exactly these tactics of bullying and intimidating and that's the reason that i have joined with two other republicans and four of us democrats in sponsoring bills that would protect the special counsel required judicial review. three-judge panel who would have to find good cause, which is defined in the statute, before donald trump could fire bob mueller. and there are growing ominous threats, tweets and warnings that we've seen.
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the world has seen. that we're heading toward a collision between bob mueller and the president of the united states. >> do tweets like today change your assessment of the president's fitness for office? >> my determination is to make sure that special counsel investigation which will uncover the truth about rush yoon meddling in our election, about potential trump campaign collusion with it. and the later allegations of obstruction of justice are fully uncovered. and the criminal charges are sought where appropriate. my opinions don't matter as much as what facts are. there are real facts here and special counsel has to uncover them. and his credibility and capacity to do this investigation are very much at stake. that's one of the reasons why we want to send a message to republicans for democrats that this kind of constitutional
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crisis can be avoided and must be avoided and the investigation will continue. >> what makes you say, you say there is a collision course here. obviously there were signs of the president getting rid of jeff sessions. there were a similar barrage of tweets and aggressively passive aggressive fashion for about a week. he seems to have laid off there. do you think the coast is clear? >> the coast is by no means clear. he has drawn red lines around his financial dealings. he has called the investigation a witch hunt. and a hoax. and he has said or tried to urge that other areas be declared out of bounds. but the point is, nothing should be out of bounds for this special prosecutor in pursuing and uncovering the facts. obviously he may well be reacting to what the special counsel is doing. assembling a team of highly expert and seasoned prosecutors battle tested as well as now
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using a grand jury. and the grand jury affords some perm nance and protection to the special counsel because it is an arm of the court. the president cana nance and pro >> i admire your discipline here. i will try to ask this one more way. because i think a lot of people wake up to tweets from the president of the united states. and they still find it shocking. so do you understand this volley of extremely mean-spirited aggressive and almost obsessive tweets. do you understand why people ask the question, what is wrong with this individual, when they see tweets like that? >> i understand a lot of the frustration and disappointment with the administration when i
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view policies on immigration. the failed health care proposal. truly cruel and costly. the absence of an infrastructure plan which is a tragedy if we fail to take advantage of this opportunity. as well as really important policies on tax reform and improving our health care. those challenges are where our focus should be along with the special counsel investigation. and i think that it is truly not about me, but about challenges this nation faces and has to address successfully. >> senator richard bloounl blumenthal, i appreciate your time tonight. >> thank you. >> joining me now is jennifer, and lonnie chin.>> thank you. alaini, let me start with you, the report in the times about the shadow campaign.
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the response of mike pence was of great um bridge and offense. but he has this super pac vehicle, raising money, going iowa, all of that not disputed. what do you make of that report? >> i think there are two sides to this, chris. on the one hand a con stiten sieve one which he is looking at. the president of the united states. he has to be sure to make absolutely clear publicly what his position is. on the other hand, he is no fool. he understands the political circumstances that we're in. he understands where we're at in terms of the russia investigation and potential problems that president may have going forward. so he is doing the prudent thing and that is investing in politically what his future might be with or without donald trump. i think we have to understand this through two different lenses. and his response as fervent as it was was clearly aimed at the president. >> right. >> that was clear to me. jennifer it seems there is two kind of constituencies here. the president has it keep his eye on. one is the base and one is the
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institutional republican party. so if pence and others represent institutional republican party, i think kellyanne conway's admission on a tv show that president's approval rating was remarkable. she is not inclined to ever give an inch on that. that to me said that they have a very keen eye on where that base is. >> yeah, they do. they have a problem in not only their overall numbers going down but even in their base, much less enthusiastic about the president. it is interesting how sensitive the president is to anyone else who gets any amount of attention. whether it is steve bannon. his new chief of staff. his vice president. so it is a difficult task to assort one self in this administration without getting knocked down to size. that said, i think actually the most important thing that mike pence could do to prepare for 2020 is to stay as far away from
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the special prosecutor as well. he shouldn't comment on it. he shouldn't attack. he may be president one day. sooner than we think. and if anything on his, i think, focus should be on steering clear of that. doing his job. addressing policy issues. yes he has to get out and do some politicking. but really the real danger for him is he gets immersed in this and then come, i don't know, 2018, 2019, 2020, the two of them are then implicated. that would be disastrous for the party and for him personally. >> you know, the president was tweeting a lot about his record. there is one part about that that i think is true. the macro economic numbers are quite good. this is the first six months of trump job creation which are almost exactly the same as job creation in the last six months of obama. but a million new jobs. the dow is very high. there are these broad macro economic indicators which the president is trumping and any president would because presidents get blame when the economy is bad.
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and this is when the economy is good. do you think that's in the back of the mind of the white house? >> by the way, one measure we haven't seen much progress on is wage gruj. we haven't seen wage stag nation particularly among middle income and working class americans. people that might be in the trump base. you're right, the concern is, if the economy goes south, by the way be the stock market is fickle. i don't any anyone wants to be blamed one way or the other for the stock market. the stock mark set a very fickle measure. if you look at the growth of the economy, our gross domestic product. if you look at jobs numbers, they all look fine now. the question is how do they look if they begin to turn south particularly in the wage front. this is a very difficult situation. and all of these trump voters
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the people who supported the president their biggest issue is going to be the economy. the manager of that economy will be critical. >> that's the question for you, jennifer. the bedrock question of whether people feel like they are doing better or not is going to be about to some extent the material conditions and in some sense, whether the president is looking out for them. i wonder what you think ultimately runs out in the end. >> i think there is a reality that is beginning to set in that is, he is not doing very much for them. the fact that stock market is going gang busters is not really of much consequence to the guy in a rust belt town who thought donald trump would bring back the steel industry or coal industry or whatever else he promised. this is a guy who tried to take away their health care. a guy whose trade policies will hurt rural america because agriculture exports are essential for them. they haven't seen an infrastructure bill. they haven't seen much at all. at some point the voters do say as voters are always want to
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say, what about me? what have you done for me lately? and to the extent he does not do that and does not deliver, there will be a diminishment of enthusiasm for him. >> lonnie, do you anticipate that the upper echelon of the donor class will continue a game of hedging behind the scenes about what is going to happen should the president get into serious trouble? >> i don't see why they wouldn't. donors are notorious or hedging their bets in less volatile situations than this one. >> right. >> it wouldn't surprise me at all, what are we doing in 2020. the big bell weather is 2018. if republicans get pasted, if they don't do particularly well at the ballot box in 2018 that will send voters running. those earlier will be in a better position than those who placed them later. >> thank you both.
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still ahead, why trump tv is coming into your home, whether you like it or not. inside the fcc's controversial decision on sinclair broadcasting coming up. first, one of those in the russia investigation breaks his silence. information on the special prosecutor, next. hi.
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all your tv at home. the most on demand your entire dvr. top networks. and live sports on the go. included with xfinity tv. xfinity, the future of awesome. arguably the most unfolding figure isn't special counsel robert mueller but the man who has power to fire him that's deputy attorney general rod rosenstein who also happens to be the man who hired him. and yesterday rosenstein appeared on television and answered questions about whether he agreed there were red lines that mueller's investigation should not cross. >> special counsel has the rules of the law and we don't have the -- >> in the issues that he is looking at, if he finds evidence of a crime, can he look that? >> well, chris, if he finds evidence after crime that's
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within the scope of what director mueller and i agree is the scope of the investigation, then he can. if it something outside the scope he needs to come to acting attorney general at this time, me, for permission to expand his investigation. >> joining me now, nick akerman and malcom nance. what do you think of that response. >> i think it shows how broad this investigation is. if you look at the justice department guidelines, set up the mueller special counsel, i mean, it really gives him incredibly broad power. it talks about anybody who is involved in the collusion with the russians between russians and trump campaign, but then goes on to say anything arising out of that directly arising out of that investigation. wherever this investigation takes them, he can pretty much go there. with ken starr, and all of a sudden there's a monica lewinski
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shows up, which has nothing to do with what they were investigating in the first place, but if you take exactly what they have, there is a lot of ground to cover. >> my question is the time line. something you have spoken about before, the way that sort of threshold, evidentiary threshold, which is quite different, and the latter could take a lot more time in terms of working through something you you could bring before court. >> you're right. and saying this in testimony before congress, he said, i'm not in the evidence business. i'm in the intelligence business. which is absolutely correct. >> you can read that a lot of different ways, by the way. >> people are arguing today, there's no evidence. intelligence is data points of information which may be come from a myriad of despaired
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points. until they are in the hands of someone like my associate here, nick, is not evidence. >> right. >> it is within the constellation of information. and once it's in justice department's hands and they work it up as part of a case, then it becomes evidence. >> then there's a constitutional bar you have to cross here which we've seen the beginning of the process. >> there is also the question of time. i think that's in the front line now. are we looking at two months, 12 months, 18 months and to have this hanging over everyone is almost intolerable. >> it took two years from the appointment of arch bald cox, water gate special prosecutor until nixon resigned. the criminal system and criminal justice system and investigative process takes a lot of time. if i today compare this entire investigation to anything that i had done in the past it comes down to mafia investigations
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where i'm investigating organized crime, bosses, trying to figure out who the legitimate businessmen supposedly were that were involved with them. there you have long investigations. individuals with long relationships with the individuals that were being investigated. not one-shot crimes. you have the 1980s with the russians. russians are like the mafia. people who have been in there for a long time. look at putin, he has risen up from the kbg. kind of like the capo decapo. you have all of these other people around him. then you get to the g 9 meeting and who shows up but the people who brought trump in in the first place back with the miss universe pageant. >> not only that, have you and we saw this in that meeting, right, explicitly for the
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purpose and dual meeting answers when you talk about organized crime. in fact in russia there's quite a connection between the state and organized crime as there are in many nations. that's the issue. >> vladimir putin made his bones with reigning in the st. petersburg mafia and weaponize them as component of the state up until this day. he knows thousand run an organized crime ring. can i call attention to the fact that special counsel mueller brought in some of the top organized crime and criminal experts in the history of the united states. which means he will find out, do any of the links, any of the relationships related to finance were they originated as part of a russian intelligence operation
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or are they marionette puppets of the kremlin. >> there were always these big high profile mafia trials. >> absolutely. >> a lot of them resulted in acquittals. >> not all of them. >> but very few. >> they are hard cases to make. >> they are. >> reasons precisely because the mechanisms by which the operations are run are run to avoid detection and sort of conviction. >> you have to be very creative to convict these people. >> putting a lot of witnesses together, when i was an assistant i was able to commit the boss of the family in the capo decap why. o /- you have the same thing here. look at donald trump. satter. involved with the russian mob and italian mob. >> we are talking about who have not been charged with any crime.
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not indicted. they are innocent until proven guilty. just to make that clear. >> absolutely. you shift from intelligence, this counter intelligence investigation. a spy hunt. looking for someone in direct communication, continuing communication with russian intelligence. that can be worked out for a very long time before you pass on and start doing the rico act type operations against them in the justice department. and with michael flynn, an indicator of where things are going. nick akerman, michael nance, thank you. how the fcc got to the brink of creating a pro trump monopoly, next.
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bottom line is this. general kelly will wring more organization into the white house. he is not there to revamp the
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trump presidency. >> that was senior adviser boris ep stein, now chief political analyst at a powerful media entity that has flown under the radar. sinclair broadcast is the largest tv broadcast every owning more than 170 local tv stations around the country. if you live in say scranton, pennsylvania or syracuse, new york, three of your local stations are owned by sinclair. and they take a pretty hands-on approach. boris epstein's segments with the pro trump spin are designated adds must-run when they are distributed to the 170 stations. meaning these stations must include them in their local news broadcast, and they are. sinclair also makes its stations run scare mongering terrorist alert desk segments which has questionable news value. during the campaign sending
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station packages saying they should not support hillary clinton because they were pro slavery. and sending out packages on the news of the day with a pr trump spin for local news anchor word for word as noted on recent addition of last week tonight on john oliver. >> did the fbi have a personal vendetta on michael flynn? >> did the fbi have a personal vendetta on running the investigation on former security adviser michael flynn. >> did the fbi -- >> have a personal vendetta -- >> in pursuing the russian investigation -- >> on former national security adviser michael flynn. >> scott livingston casts its cover as corrective to mainstream media bias. >> i'm sure you know about the troubling trend of irresponsible and one-side news stories plaguing our country. the sharing of bias and false news has become all too common on social media. more alarming national media
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outlets, without checking. unfortunately some members of the national media are using their platforms to push their own personal bias and agenda to control exactly what people think. this is extremely dangerous to our democracy. >> now it would be one thing if sinclair is up front about its own agenda and bias. most don't know whether sinclair owns their station or if local anchors are reading to what amounts to pro trump propaganda between sports and weather. now the trump administration is poised to reward sinclair by changing fcc regulations to allow the company to own more stations. that is next. you got a home l, you got robbed. i know-- i got a loan 20 years ago, and i got robbed. that's why i started lendingtree-- the only place you can compare up to 5 real offers side by side, for free. it's like shopping for hotels online, but our average customer can save twenty thousand dollars.
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i have a message for certain students. listen up closely, snowflake. yes, i'm talking to you. you, the social justice warning, college isn't baby sitting service. it's time to grow up, snowflake. >> okay. that's a taste of what you might have seen on your local news at least in your local news station is owned by sinclair broadcasting. a restored bo bow hemage. sinclairs covered an estimated 38% of households and wants to get bigger.
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a $3.9 billion deal would give sinclair another 42 stations and ability to reach 72% of u.s. households. that level of dominance opt air waves bay single company is supposed to be outside the bounds of the law. but this spring president trump's very pro business fcc chairman republican pie invoked controversial loophole in the law that would allow the deal to go through. now despite heated opposition the deal is widely expected to be improved. joining me now, media analyst, social correspondent for vanity fair. how do people know whether they are watching a sinclair station? how do they know? >> the truth is, they don't. sinclair owns affiliates all over the country affiliated with big networks. if you are watching local abc, nbc or fox affiliate in a market you may have no idea that corporate owner of this network has a political point of view. sinclair does not brand its networks.
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we are like fox news would say, we are a conservative network. viewers would know that. sinclair does. market itself as owner of the networks. >> there is a difference between local affiliates, when i grew up in new york i think of the network as the association, right? >> yeah. >> outside of major market you could watch abc in one market that sinclair owned and nbc in another own cbs is another. those letters don't mean anything in terms of the news program. >> of course. that's why this is such a c change possibly in the american landscape where you have ideal logically predisposed company that could push its message behind the curtain of objective news. this also we should put in context of a generational quest by republicans to change the media landscape in their favor going back to 1987 when ronald reagan fcc, ronald reagan's fcc fairness doctrine which gave
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raise to talk radio, we are seeing the rise of potentially right wing broadcasting in television. >> talk radio of local news. >> exactly. >> how controversial is the approval of the deal itself? >> you talk to people in the media industry whether or not they are aligned with sinclair and they say this is very controversial. in fact rupert murdoch now made overtures for fox to acquire more local stations because they don't want corporate competitor like sinclair to compete with them. there used to be laws in place with corporate overlords to buy up markets because you didn't want to have a homogeneous point of view. now there is nothing to say that nbc or comcast could buy up local stations. >> part of that deregulation is the tell communications act under president bill clinton which allowed multiple markets to be owned. there is also, it seems like there is a fake whiff of prid we could pro here.
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>> i'm been thinking about this a lot today. this is the destination of the swamp that donald trump wanted to change. they hired one of his former campaign staffers, boris epstein, and now they are favoring their media ally. this is sort of a symbiotic relationship that should be, anyone who is on the position of being against crony capitalism, they should not reward this behavior. >> yeah. we should note that decision, final decision has not been made. there are public comments you can make on the fcc's website one way or another. the decision is not yet made though a lot of people placing bets it will be approved. thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up, good news and bad news for democrats with eyes on taking back the house in 2018. keith ellison on the state of play ahead. but first, what a working vacation really looks like in tonight's thing 1 thing 2 next.
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beat trump by 46 points. winning an assembly seat in pro trump district and in republican new hampshire district elected a democrat for state house for the first time ever according to the state democratic party. that's all good news for democrats. bad news about next year's election, a quote dave wasserman, even if democrats were to win, every single 2018 house and senate race for seats representing places that hillary clinton won or that trump won by less than 3 percentage points, they could still full short of house majority and lose five senate seats. how on earth that math is possible. next.
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while donald trump's low approval ratings could hurt republicans in 2018, there are more than a few factors working against the democrats. in the senate, 23 democratic seats as well as two belong to independents who caucus with democrats will be up for grabs. ten of the seats come from states that voted for the president last year. only eight republicans total will be on the ballot. and only deen from nevada represents a state won by hillary clinton. the senate favors sparsely populated rural states. every state gets two senators regardless of the population. wyoming's not even 600 people have the same weight as california's 39 million people. in the democrats clus, they wind
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up with less representation in the u.s. senate. all of that left one political watcher to quote, if the democrats avoid a net loss that would be a significant victory. joining me now, congressman keith ellison from minnesota and christina greer who tweeted about attending gerrymandering camp today, which i'm going to ask you about today. i'm going to start with you, congressman. i do want to ask about the bomb og f a mosque in bloomington, minnesota which is adjacent to your district. the governor called it an act of terrorism. has the president reached out to you or to your knowledge anyone in minnesota about that attack. >> no, the president has not reached out at all. we're looking forward to hearing from him. the fact is that when people are
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targets of terrorists attacks, that in the minds of some may be interpreted at condoning that. and so we definitely am looking forward to the president condemning this wow wardly act of terrorism against religious institution mosque. i was there yesterday, governor dayton has responded with tremendous leadership, along with representatives omar and representative carlson and mayor gene winston, a republican by the way has been on hand and wonderful. there's been a spike in anti-muslim hate and hate crimes. it's not just that incident but for the whole rash of anti-muslim hatred that's been happening under the trump administration's watch, it is important for the president to make it clear that he does not approve of this. >> let me segue off of that. no win was injured in that attack.
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>> nobody was physically injured but there's a psychological and emotional damage that's been inflicted. >> i want to ask a related question which is about how the democrats work on this map. in places where the various parts of the very diverse base that constitute the democratic party are not necessarily present. so democrats won by 3 million votes in the pop loor election but if they want to take back the house and the senate they've got to win in lots of places that are not rich with the kind of voters that tend to vote heavy democratic. what is your read on how the party goes about doing that? >> the democratic party has to compete in every single precinct in the united states by talking about the core issues that affect people and going door to door and going directly to people and delivering that message that we're the party who believes you should be able to go to the doctor when you're sick. they don't believe it. we're the party that believes we need to do something about
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climate. they're pulling out f of the paris climate accord. they're the ones who want to give tax break to big corporations. we believe working people need a break. so the bottom line is that what we're talking about sells every single inch of this country. but what we've got to do is what we've been doing this summer. we have a program called resistance summer which puts canvassing all over the map in the united states and where the democrats are telling the story to americans everywhere all of the time. we've been able to be active in new hampshire recently, oklahoma, we've been active and on the ground winning local and state seats which is where we've really got to win. the secret sauce of the democratic party is got to be activism, up front relationship building. >> christina, you're at gerry handering camp. and oun of the obstacles is
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different from the senate problem. what dwr you learning about how big a structural impediment the current constitution of those districts is? >> this is -- you know, this is the new frontier and obviously something we need to be vigilant about. local and state house races, especially state houses are incredibly important because they're the ones after the census, they're the ones that get to decide how we redraw the districts. it's not just about going door to door. it's making sure that we have people in the pipeline so they're ready to run for the offices in the state house. it's clear that black women, as jason johnson has said many times before, black women are the kryptonite to the democratic party. it would be hoove the democratic party to cultivate black women and voters and candidates so they can win some of the seats.
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these are the elects officials who can decide how the districts get redrawn. >> there's a lot of districts democrats are going to have to win that are overwhelmingly white. i mean there's places where in order to flip the house, right, that you're talking about huge swaths of districts that are 90% white, 92% white where obviously turn out of people of color and political engagement people are crucial. but the way the map works and the way that sort of racial geographic segregation america works, there's these districts that the democrats -- a nut they have to crack, right? >> right. and i think we have to look at partisan gerrymandering. and recognize if this is so majority white country, let's cultivate the talent. you know, they have left in a lot of ways.
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we need to figure out another strategy to recapture some of the state houses. if not, 2020 when the census is taken again and in 2021 and 2022 when the state houses have the opportunity to redraw the districts, the democrats will be left out in the cold and even worse than it was after the 2010 census. >> chris, i would have to say that i agree with much of what was said but i would disagree that the democratic party is chasing white male voters. we're chasing candidates who can speak to the economic realities of the people who live near them, their voters. and some of those people may not be the same race as the people who are the majority who live there. we've got to get people who can speak authentically about the fact that people are struggling to get food on the table in this economy. of course we need black women candidates. i'm all in favor of that and want to promote that. but we've got to get candidates to address the serious problems all across this country,
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detroit, minneapolis or in western ohio. >> that is all in for this evening. >> it's been 200 days as he spent much of the day tweeting about the fake news media. all this while the president is on what he is calling a working vacation and there's work to do. new polling out tonight shows nearly three quarters of the american people don't trust most of what they hear from the white house. tonight we look at the chal lek in the west wing with a man who once ran the place and look at overseas. north korea saying americans aren't safe. all of it as the 11th hour gets underway. starting off a new week on a monday night. good evening from our nbc news headquarrs

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