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>> ramesh thank you, we'll have you pack in about 20 minutes. joe, final thoughts. >> this new hampshire poll that shows donald trump losing to john kasich by 12 points, six months in, that's -- again, we're not handicapping what happens in to 2020, but it shows lawmakers he's weak in 2017. >> i think that poll, that specific statistic, is much more damning than any of trump's approval ratings and the low approval ratings. i think republicans are watching new hampshire. >> i agree. >> that does it for "morning joe." stephanie ruhle picks up the coverage right now. >> thanks so much. hi, there. i'm stephanie ruhle. this morning we have a lot to hit starting with the president's working vacation, railing against the media, against a senator and claim nothing one's paying attention to his successes. this morning, someone's defending their boss. >> sometimes there's unnecessary
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chatter, but you have to look at the results. >> the u.s. about to begin a new fight against isis as early as today and certainly not where you would expect. >> this isn't iraq or syria. it's marawy and the philippines and isis captured it three months ago. and "money, power, politics," how president trump's trade policies are already doing damage to parts of his own base. >> we will rebuild rural america. >> we begin with the president himself is saying he's working hard while va cautioning at his golf club in new jersey but also doing a lot -- what else do you do on vacation? watching tv and hanging on social media. you v you know what i'm talking about, twitter. tiff best team here to break it down. peter alexander in bridgewater, new jersey, my home state, not this front of the white house, just down the road from where the president is staying.
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peter, yesterday the president was all over the place on twitter. general kelly had of course the high tailing it to new jersey to stop him. listen, he was attacking the media, going after senator blumenthal, but today maybe he's pulling it back a little pit. is he, though? >> reporter: yesterday he was pushing pa ining back against r signs of weakness, that his base was getting bigger and stronger than ever, saying we'll never change. it appears the president himself may never change, back on twit they are morning but sticking a little closer to the message already this morning. we'll show you some of what he's tweet sod far on the topic of north korea saying after many years of failure, countries are coming together to finally address the dangers posed by north korea. we must be tough and decisive. then much the same way the president gets his presidential daily briefing most days it appears he also gets an early morning briefing from his friends on fox news, retweeting a story from fox & friends reporting u.s. spy satellites
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detect north korea moving anti-ship cruise missiles to patrol boat. that's notable because in effect the president, the commander in chief, is disseminated leaked classified information about u.s. spy satellite capabilities based on anonymous sources. finally this morning he's been tweeting about his frustrations with the obamacare exchange, touting anthem is leaving the exchange in nef inform and about the opioid crisis, saying i'll p holding a major briefing on the opioid crisis, a major problem for our country, today at 3:00 p.m. in bedminster, new jersey, joined pi the health and human services secretary tom price. this is notable because it will be our first chance on day five of this working vacation to see the president at work. >> all right, peter. i have to ask you about this "new york times" piece. "the times" got a hold of a draft of a climate change report that was leaked to the paper because some scientists were concerned that it wasn't going to get released publicly. first i want to share what u.s.
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ambassador nick -- excuse me, u.n. ambassador nikki haley said on the "today" show about it. >> will we embrace the results of this report from 13 federal agencies? >> i haven't seen the report but i don't see any reason they wouldn't. we're not saying that climate change is not real. it is real. it's having to have that balance between making sure you have jobs and businesses moving and also making sure you protect your climate. the answer is in the middle. >> the answer is in the middle but not ask you ask scott pruitt. >> reporter: yeah. that's exactly right. i think it was notable about this, obviously, this report would contradict a lot of what we have heard from the trump administration so far, rick perry and scott pruitt in effect saying that the science is not settled, questioning just how great our ability is to determine that climate change is real right now. the white house as we understand it, said to be reviewing this report. we don't know what they will say or to about i. but the bottom line is the president himself, who back in
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2012 i believe on twitter said that climate change was a hoax perpetrated by the chinese. we don't have an updated sense of where the president stands on this. in the briefing room in the last several months, sean spicer, sarah huckabee sanders with questions on his views on this topic and they of never been particularly clear about wra he stands at this moment. >> the white house can put the reasonable, rational nikki haley on temperature all day long. but if what she says opportunity jive with the actions of scott pruitt and rick perry, we have ourselves a problem. i have to bring my panel in on this one. eli stoke el is the white house reporter for the "wall street journal" wooj and msnbc political analyst, evan siegfried, penguin enthusiast, bet you didn't know that, and jason johnson, theroot tot come. eli, we must start with president trump's tweets. this morning specifically. retweeting a report from fox news about north korea. that comes from, wait for it,
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unnamed sources sharing information that appears to be classified information. hello. is this not what jeff sessions, dog and pony show, was all about on friday, thousand leakers will be prosecuted, this should never happen? i mean, what is this here? >> well, it's hypocrisy, but this is a president who's never, ever been capable of being shamed for hypocrisy, self-contradiction, any of that, so it's not surprising it fits this sort of pattern of, you know, trump being -- i called "the times" sort of a goldfish in the sense he seems to forget what happened ten seconds before. he's all in moment, sort of reacting and trying to get reactions and he doesn't really worry about whether or not it contradicts something he said before or a broader point. and obviously, you know, there have been a lot of stories over the last week about the new white house chief of staff, john kelly, trying to control the flow of information to this president, the news stories that get left on his desk, the things that he watches.
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obviously, you can see from this morning's tweets that's a huge challenge. you're not going the take this president away from his twitter account and probably not going to be able to get him to turn off fox news, which is often what precipitates the tweets when he's reacting to what he's seeing on television. >> i'm pretty sure general kelly is not going to be rooming with president trump. evan, trump's tweeting over and over about his base. this confuses me because he's not on the campaign trails anymore. the base is irrelevant. he's the president of the united states. and while his base might not ever abandon him, is the broader republican party -- you've got a new cbs poll saying that trump is going down, then there's a cnn poll saying republicans are feeling good about him. what is it, actually? >> first to push back about general kelly rooming with the president, he just needs to go on the d veshgs r and set the parental controls. in terms of trump's obsession with the base, a base for any president is important to get them fired up and pushing momentum to pass key
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legislation. the president hasn't done that or activated his base to get things done in washington. so he's actually talking about how his base is strong and that makes his base feel good, but his base isn't strong. it's weak. it's crumbling. he won 67% of white noncollege-educated voters in november. he's got an approval rating that's abysmal there, 50% of them disapprove, minus 7. he's trying to d anything and everything he can to get them up and psyched because they're not. they don't like what's going on. >> when republicans look at what the president has done and when they feel good about it and say, look at neil gorsuch, for example, what 'cause does it sa the broader republican party, that it's a once in a lifetime opportunity to have the kind of foft control and support that they do, yet the gop and the president can't seem to get on the same page? >> basically wasted the first six months because they can't figure out what they're doing. half the important positions haven't even been filled yet. >> executive orders, you don't
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need anybody else. >> these were perfect for memes but not getting the job done. the you look at the health care vote, the real value of the president's base when you're trying to push through legislation is i can call on that 30% to 40% in your state to pressure you. it didn't work against john mccain or susan collins so he hasn't been able to rally his pace to get congress to do what he wants and that is a sign of an ineffective president. >> republican congress. >> exactly. can't get them to move. eli, i want to ask you about "the new york times" report that was leaked, this climate change report. do you think the scientists jumped the gun here? the white house didn't even have the opportunity to release it. why not give the white house the opportunity and if they don't do it, then you've fotgot a case t make? here, they leak their own tam dam. >> the reason the scientists went to "the new york times" is they don't trust this white house not to suppress the report or to value taidate it.
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they are worried about this white house attending on climate change and as peter mentioned, go back to june in that briefing room and after the president withdrew the u.s. from the paris accord on climate change, there were a lot of questions about the president's personal views on whether or not climate change is caused by humans. and over and over again the answer from sean spicer was i haven't had a chance to talk to the president about that. just not really believable, right? you see the president every day. you work in the west wing. if you wanted to get us an answer for that question you would. and there's been no transparency from the white house, which can only lead you to believe based on its actions the president withdraw from paris, not wanting to answer this question that this is not a white house that is all that worried about the threat of climate change and obviously given how serious that threat is, according to this draft report and these scientists, you can kind of understand why they may have wanted to make this public rather than going the sort of normal route and quietly sending this over the white house and
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waiting for the administration to act. >> let's just think about that. put that into context. these are scientists who are saying we need to get this out there. last week, evan, you, a republican, wrote that this white house is short on competence, and you said it was a rudderless ship. yet there are a lot of competent people in the white house. general kelly, he's competent. as is h.r. mcmaster. what's the problem? the president? >> well, it is partially the president, but it's also some of the things that they've been doing. they haven't been doing on the legislative side to get things done. let's take all these theme weeks the white house has, energy week, made in america week, et cetera. >> american heroes. >> yes. and i think that when you go out and have those, if you're a normal republican or democratic administration on the first tda of that week you have a member of the senate and a member of the house introducing legislation towards something that gets to that goal, whatever the theme is. the president signs it into law on friday. >> they don't decide on these
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dream weeks until two days before and the president himself barely supports them. he might go to an event at the white house, but look at his twitter traction during those weeks, he barely acknowledges it. >> not to mention the weeks don't necessarily match the announcement, so last week we had sessions saying we're going to sue colleges for discrimin e discriminating independence white people, you have stephen miller saying we're going to cut illegal immigration after president trump says we're going to encourage police brutality. what kind of theme was that? it's not the kind of theme that any president would actually want the american people to see and that's part of the problem. their internal communications are terrible. their external communications are terrible. when you have a president who can't stay on message, it's impossible for anybody else to. >> and the president hasn't outlined a long-term foreign policy vision. look what happened over the weekend with north korea, rex tillerson saying there was no military option, nikki haley saying everything's on the table, everyone undercutting each other because there is no strong leadership at the top. the president hasn't outlined that vision. so they're impimprovising.
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>> eli, with the improvising and strategy and messaging, what does it say that the president, who does take to twitter, who has 24 hours a day to get his message out, he continues to attack the fake news media, the failing "new york times," a state senator, yet i of seen not a single mention of the attack on a mos income minnesota, the marines that were killed off of australia. >> right. it's fascinating. the president's twitter feed is really the clearest look that the country's ever really had into the psyche, the actual thoughts of the person in the oval office. and a lot of times americans just don't like what they see. they don't like the lack of seriousness. they don't like the priorities, the things that the president chooses to continue to tweet about and attack versus the things that he doesn't tweet about. even a lot of president trump's base supporters say when people go out and interview him, i wish he would stop the tweeting, cut down on the tweeting, it doesn't seem presidential. some things about being
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president continue to be sacrosanct a little bit. >> how about human? pruc president trump, if i was a mother of one of those three marines i would beg of you right now as the commander in chief to acknowledge the loss of my son. are you kidding me? to say he's not being presidential, how about being a respectful human? >> i think that's a fair criticism. but i think, you know, what i've reported on in talking to people about the president's addiction to social media is that twitter gives instant feedback, instant gratification, the president has millions of followers, and whenever he tweets anything you can sit there and you can see the retweets and the mentions and all that coming back at him. and that is something that he feeds on. that may be childish. that may be something that you would hope that a 71-year-old man might sort of be beyond, but that is where we are to say nothing of sort of the priorities and the things that presidents generally should use that platform and bully pulpit to speak to and to really, you know, set a tone for the country. >> 71, whatever, you can learn
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as a young child. try to acknowledge others and p respectful. next, a brand-new nbc report out about president trump's battle plans against isis. including beginning pomings of isis strongholds in a country you probably didn't even know they were in. but first, today is day five of president trump's working vacation and comedian jimmy kimmel emphasized the work -- >> i want to apologize to the president for thinking his vacation is a vacation when plainly it's not. i mean, it's right there. he wrote meetings and calls. he's working. just yesterday he brokered a peace deal between the groundskeeper at the golf course and some goemps. -- gophers. and the alzheimer's association is going to make it happen by funding scientific breakthroughs, advancing public policy, and providing local support to those living with the disease and their caregivers.
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>> reporter: air strikes and attacks by 3,000 troops with american help. isis still holds this city. >> that's nbc's bill neely in the southern philippines where isis has taken complete control of an entire city there for the past three months. and now two defense officials tell nbc news the pentagon is seriously considering a plan to conduct air strikes on isis in that area as soon as today. i want to take you live the pentagon and nbc's national security producer, courtney hubie. what exactly are you learning about the possibility of u.s. air strike s? for me, it's like philippines? who knew?
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>> that's right. i think a lot of americans and maybe people around the world would be surprised to hear there is an isis program in the philippines but as you mentioned it's been going on for some sometime and as we saw in pill neely's terrific reporting from the area, it is a serious problem and a serious fight. in the past several weeks u.s. military and defense officials here in the pentagon have been discussing several things to help with the fight there. one of them is to name the operation, to name a u.s. military operation there. what comes with that is some budget implication, more resources, more funding, and then some more authorities. and one of the authorities that they're talking about is what the military calls the right of collective self-defense. now, whenever there's a u.s. military presence anywhere, they have the inherent right of self-defense, but this would mean that if they see an ally there who might be threatened by isis, by these fighters, these terrorists, then the u.s. could help, could respond. among that, one of the other options they're considering is armed testosterone eed drones.
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the u.s. military 6 haas provided a couple of cessnas they've provided there. but this would be a step up. what would be particularly interesting here, of course, would be for the u.s. military to be once again fighting against isis but now in another country, stephanie. >> okay. talk about afghanistan for a moment. to say that it's comply caughted the -- complicated there is a massive understatement and the president or the military seem to be sending more people? >> that's right, stephanie. we of been waiting for several months for this new south asia strategy from the white house. >> this is not a strategy. >> no, this is not the strategy. this is actually just an addition. so when these marines, about 300 marines arrived in southern afghanistan this spring a couple months ago, when they arrived from, rodney turner determined pretty quickly i'm told according to defense officials that he needed more help, needed
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both adenver nuggets nal security for the forces that were there and some more trainers, more advisers. so he asked for those and the commander of u.s. central command approved it. those ra means have not gone in yet. it's fewer than 100. as i said they'll be doing some security, some training, some advising. what's particularly interesting here is that for several months now we of been waiting for this new strategy, what's going to be the way forward for the trump administration in afghanistan. secretary mattis said earlier this summer the announcement would come out in mid-july. we're now in early august and defense officials here are saying we're still nowhere close to having this strategy released, stephanie. >> my goodness. i want to get my panel to weigh in. jason, evan, possible air strikes in the philippines, and it's not like dozens more troops, just dozens more marines in afghanistan. are we not missing a strategy? if i were a marine making my way to afghanistan, i'd sure as hell want to know the game plan. >> yeah. we haven't had a strategy in afghanistan for years. this goes back to the prior
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administration. >> but the prior administration said this is complicated, let me pull back. >> they did start to pull back but they still weren't going to pull out completely. >> true. >> which is which the president is rumored to be wanting to do because he's gotten frustrated with mattis and general mcmaster. he was saying, listen, you guys are doing this review and just like that 21 club restaurant had a review, too, and came back with nothing. he's dissatisfied was he because he doesn't get something that isn't a black and white simple decision. >> -- consultant cannot be the answer. we are talking about this sort of geopolitics. >> look, this is a clear example of why i like the travel ban and the muslim ban doesn't make sense, because i us is is not just a middle eastern problem with brown muslim people. it's all over the world. and we have to be much more sophisticated in how we battle it. i also think this is problematic. this is an example of one dictator being hemd e helped by swho wants to be a dictator down
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the road. due war tay is a problem. he brags about killings. >> by his own hand. killed 'em myself. >> like a jim webb sort of thing. you have to be careful when you're dealing with providing military support to that kind of leader because he's definitely going to use it to go against his internal political enemies. >> i don't think he'll use u.s. drones and u.s. drone strikes to take out his own political enemies. i think the u.s. will be a little more careful in who they drop -- >> we have to work with them and determine, hey, where do we have to fight, where do we have to bomb. you don't think duarte is going to use that to his advantage? the united states, we're in their territory, asking for their assistance. that's part of the problem working with those kinds of dictatorings. even if we're fighting isis, we have to be clear about the kind of people we're fighting. >> when we come back, a different region, one of high importance. north korea lashing out after the latest round of sanctions while president trump applauds the move. the ambassador to the u.n. urges serious caution. for your heart...
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welcome back. i'm stephanie ruhle. you're watching msnbc. and it is time for your "morning primer," everything you need to know to start your day.
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we begin with president trump's announcing his first public appearance during his vacation, tweeting earlier, quote, i will be holding a major briefing on the opioid crisis, a major problem for our country, today at 3:00 p.m. the marine corps is considering whether to order a temporary aviation stand-down to refocus marine pilots and crews on safety. this comes as three marines were killed in saturday's crash and have been i'd fid as 26-year-old benjamin cross, 21-year-old nathaniel ordway, and 19-year-old ruben velasco. hackers have released more information of the hack of hbo including scripts from five "game of thrones" episodes, including one that hasn't run yet. they're working feverishly with police and cyber security experts to hunt down the hackers. and some of the most expensive homes in san francisco sold for a measly $90,000 after residents failed to pay a $14 a
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year property tax on the street. the homeowners are appealing to the board of supervisors and a hearing is set for october. man, those rich people have got to be pretty annoyed. and get your lottery tickets ready. tonight's mega millions drawing will be for an estimated $346 million. tomorrow's powerball jackpot will also be for more than $300 million. that's a lot of dough. and you know what you can do with that dough? invest it. we are keeping an eye on wall street. the bell just rang. had nine straight days of record highs. we're going the talk more about that on "money, power, politics" in a moment. i'm asking the question, the market running like this, why does the president have such a low approval rating? i want to stay on the president, waking up this morning to an increasingly volatile situation with north korea. just hours ago, trump tweeted, "after many years of failure, countries are coming together to finally address the dangers posed by north korea. we must be tough and decisive!"
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this morning on the "today" show, u.s. ambassador to the u.n. nikki haley spoke about the ub u.n. security council's sweeping sanctions on the country. it was a huge achievement on her part over the weekend. >> we tonight know that they're going to work this time, but it was something that we needed to do. we said on saturday when we took the vote this wasn't going to stop our north korea problem. what this is going to d is send a very strong message and a united message. >> here's a strong message, president trump said all day long cover that, we did, we do. there's nikki haley. ann guerin covers foreign policy and politics and has been writing specifically about north korea's response to the sanctions. good morning. listen, when you look at the penalties here, they are the toughest we've seen to date, and we of got the approval of china and russia. symbolically, that's a big deal, but does it actually hold any weight when you think about north korea and who runs that country? >> well, stephanie, i think it's important to separate out the
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difference between the symbolic effect of these sanctions and the practical effect. the symbolic effect is actually quite significant. we have china negotiating the terms of these sanctions right alongside the united states. and that sends a powerful message to north korea, which does 90% of its economic activity with china. and beyond that, china acts as a sort of diplomatic and security protector for north korea. it's really their buffer to the world, the filter through which north korean money and any kind of diplomatic access typically runs. and for china to be really, you know, shaking its finger at north korea here and saying not only are you doing something wrong by violating u.n. resolutions, the ballistic missile tests and the nuclear tests, but we're going to allow fairly broad economic punishment against you for it. that is significant, but now turning to the practical, north
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korea doesn't really have a large economy anyway. it has roughly $3 billion in annual exports and these sanctions would affect roughly $1 billion if they are fully enforced and that's a pretty big if. the question becomes what will north korea take away from this, will they be in any way affected by the symbolic effect of this and say we don't want to push it any further, or will they say, hey, we're not taking that big a hit, nothing is more important to us than these weapons, we're going to push ahead. >> to your exact point, china wagging its finger, wagging its finger as an absolutely irrational, immature leader in kim jong-un, couldn't that just fire him um more? when i wag my finger at my children, they only get worse. >> yeah. i mean, that's a really good question, stephanie. the chinese really have a number
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of important questions to ask themselves here. they have become increasingly fed up with kim jong-un. i mean, they can't control him. he's pest as far as they're concerned. and he's a dangerous pest. he could cause a number of things to happen in china that they don't want. the thing that china does not want most of all is the collapse of north korea. economically it would be a disaster for them. they have many hundred mile board we are north korea. they would presumably have refugees flowing over that border, a humanitarian crisis on their hands. and if kim jong-un were to collapse utterly, they foresee that the korean peninsula would likely unite under what is now south korean political control, which would mean a u.s. ally and u.s. troops on their border. it's not for nothing that china has said that what they would like to see diplomatically happen with north korea is what they call a freeze for freeze, which would be that the north
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koreans freeze their nuclear and ballistic missile tests in exchange for a freeze on u.s. military activity in conjunction with south korea. >> my goodness, this situation is only getting more comply catted. anne, thank you so much. quick break. next, the u.s. shut out, a major international trade negotiations. trade, talking business, remember? the business president? president trump's trade policies may be hurting the people who fot him elected. but before we go, i have to share this. could it be time to stop believing? the co-founder and guitarist of the iconic paband journey is lashing out at his band mates threatening to leave after they visited with president trump at the white house two weeks ago. he said his complaint isn't that they met with president trump but they made a symbolic allegiance to any political figure. don't hear a lot of rock stars talking like that. restlessness...
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more, quote, neuroticism. thanks a lot, dude. it was e-mailed to more than 40,000 employees on friday and the unnamed male engineer behind the rant told bloomberg he was fired for, quote, perpetuating gender stereotypes. nbc has not verified that. i want to bring in my friend, cnbc's andrew ross sorkin, host of "squawk box" and "new york times" columnist and founder of deal book. google has already fired this guy. they detective have a choice. any giant company has policies, and a random unnamed person within a company can write something, you represent your company's brand, code of ethics. you can't stay after that. >> practical reality is he can't stay, because he can't work there because you have to imagine the people around him are going to unlikely want to work with him. but this is raising a much larger question. this is not just a corporate story or even a google story. this is a story about the discussion we're having in america today for pert or worse. i disagree with what he wrote
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profoundly. >> heck, yeah. >> however, if you look at what happened in this last election, if you look at the sort of underlying feelings in this country, there are a lot of people for better or worse who feel way this gentleman does and the question is should we have that tis course. >> should we have that discourse. you're saying let's talk about it. >> by the way, as i said, i profoundly disagree with him, but i do think there are people in this country who would turn this whole thing around and say get rid of the manifesto that said women are better than men, we'd be in a different place. i'm a man so i can't even have this conversation. >> you're saying if he wrote a manifesto pledging how great women are, they should run the country, run the world, google would put him on a diversity council and he'd be on the cover of a magazine. >> i'm suggesting we're in a particular place in the conversation. i'm not saying the conversation is right or wrong, but i think there's probably a conversation to be had about all of this. >> and what is that
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conversation? >> that's an interesting one and i don't know where it foes. people are talking about him about being the tinlal version of larry summers. >> the silicon valley version of larry sum sners. >> i'm not comparing them in terms to-what they've done and accomplished but in terms of what larry summers said about women at the time and sort of -- people talk about the snowflakes and the this and the that and the safe spaces and where we are, that's where i'm going with this. i'm suggesting this is a corporate story, a google story i get, that but there's larger dynamics at play. >> all right. there's a larger story that's affecting a lot of people that i have to cover, because a new report in politico is revealing, you have to pay attention to this, 11 countries that are part of a trans-pacific partnership that president trump abandoned, they are now involved in 27 separate trade negotiations with one another. and major trading powers like china and the european union
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while the united states completely shut out. undercutting u.s. exporters. this has some american farmers, quote, scared to death. why? because it could potentially leave these guys out in the cold. i want to bring in dave helling, a political reporter for the kansas city star. dave, you've been covering this issue since president trump first took office. he said we don't want teshgs pp, we want something better. but he's not offering anything better. what does this mean for american companies? >> well, for american farmers it's a scary prospect, stephanie. great to be with you. yeah, we wrote back in february that a unilateral decision to pull out of teshgs pp could touch off a major protectionist trade war across the world and actually we're seeing some evidence of that, and that would be devastating for the farm community, particularly in states like kansas and missouri. kansas does $5 billion worth of ag exports every year. and if we're shut out of those markets because of the tis put
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over teshgs peshgs p or nafta, which is the north american free trade agreement, farmers devastate and your viewers should know farm income has been down about three years. any major trade war would be a huge problem out here. >> is this going to happen to president trump throughout the next four years? he ran on saying no more, we're the better, we tear best, and he offered no solutions. weeks ago when wilbur ross and peter navarro in his office saying, nafta, whatever, the ag secretary had to walk into his office and say can i show you an electoral college map? these are the farm communities that voted for you. pull it together. >> i think we'll see this more and many in part because he said it, he said, look, during the election, during the campaign, he played to his base and made statements that he said appealed to them. and he has clearly had to pull back on so many of them. and yes, people come into his office all the time. the good news, and i'm going to
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give the president some credit. i do think that people come into his office and say we can't do it that way and i think more often than not he says, okay, maybe i'll change my mind. >> fine. but dave, does he not have to change his mind and offer a solution? when you look at tpp, where it failed the most was president obama did a terrible job explaining it and the story got away from him and then he lost it. here we are now in 2017, what does the president have to do? trade matters. >> right and it's difficult to make an argument for free trade sometimes stephanie because it's not intuitively something a lot of americans would believe in. they would sort of argue america first and protect our workers and our industries. but the president as is the case on a lot of issues, i must say, utterly lacks any sophistication on these kinds of things. he understands he wants to protect the steelworker in pennsylvania, but utterly forgets about the weed farmer in sumner county, kansas. that's a very complicated,
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complex negotiation that has to be undertaken and he does have some good people, bob lig lighthawkeyeser is the u.s. trade representative, he understands this, but the president doesn't. and until he can sort of put those pieces together, i think people out in my part of the country are going to be extraordinarily nervous about what's going on. >> all right. before we go, though, andrew, in your part of the country, corporates across the board feel pretty good. they know they're not getting additional regulations from this president. they like that. >> they love that. but the flip side of it is that there's still a huge amount of uncertainty out there. it's funny how the last eight years under obama all you heard was uncertainly ti, uncertainty. i can't do anything. now we have probably just as much if not more uncertainty unless you believe that maybe nothing's going to happen, but more uncertainty and yet things are going pretty well. >> i think they feel pretty confident you're not going to get more regulation out of this president. andrew, dave. thank you. time for a break. next, members of the house and senate are on august recess
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i totally could've - no! switching to allstate is worth it. >> when you look at some of the proposals that are out there in terms of medicare for all, the price tag is just unbelievably high. it has to be a tax -- >> on the rich. >> that was congressman mark meadows, the chairman of the house freedom caucus facing a lively, spirited crowd back in his home state of north carolina during a town hall last night. he is not the only republican facing tough questions on health care as congress spends some time at home for the august
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rece recess. voters across the country are demanding solutions from washington. msnbc garrett haake traveled to ohio to speak to voters there. what are you hearing there? >> folks who depend on obamacare are about to have to be on their fourth different insurance plan in the last four years. they are frustrated and they're looking to the federal government now to step up. virginia rolls out thin crust pizzas the same way since she has since her husband bought the findly, ohio, joint 40 years ago. but can't afford health insurance for her employees. even she uses the individual market to buy a plan. >> it doesn't pay for nothing. i pay $780 a month. i have a $50 co-pay and a $7,000 deductible. >> $7,000 deductible. have you ever hit that? >> no. >> reporter: when insurer anthem announced it was pulling out of the state this august, roughly among 1,000 ohioans who learned
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in her county and 19 others obamacare insurance just wouldn't be available next year. >> i really appreciate your help. >> reporter: ohio insurance chief immediately began negotiations with insurers in other parts of the state to fill the gaps. >> what we provided was some clarity from the regulator as to what our expectations were and what we were willing to do to help them be in the market. >> reporter: it took six weeks to lock in insurers in 19 of the 20 counties. each making a one-year commitment to stay put. >> they need clarity and stability and the constant unknown is in large part what is making these carriers have to seriously think about what whether to stay in the market or not. >> reporter: david willis delivers pizzas full time. the unknown troubles him, too. he worries about not being able to buy coverage if insurers leave. >> it would be a struggle, a
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real, real struggle. >> reporter: both republicans prefer talking pizza to politics. but each had messages to washington about obamacare. >> i would like them to replace it and make it better. don't repeal it. we need it. there's people that don't make enough money that need this insurance. >> get something right. work together on it. quit knit picking and do something for the american people. they have to figure out something. can't be rocket science, can it? >> and, stephanie, it wasn't rocket science for the state to fix these counties here. they basically asked people insurers from neighboring counties to try to pick up a few of these counties each and spread the risk around. still one county here that doesn't have obamacare insurer lined up for next year. >> all right, thanks, garrett. i'm with them. pizza over politics. new york pizza. coming up, how has trump's d.c. hotel changed washington's culture of influence?
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that wraps us up for this hour. thanks for watching. i'm stephanie ruhle and i'll see
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you again at 11:00 a.m. with my friend ali velshi and right now i'll hand you off to my friend, hallie jackson. right now on this broadcast, we're talking about diplomatic overdrive with the president promising to get tough on north korea even as nikki haley admits today those newest sanctions might not work. rex tillerson and allies in asia saved a seat at the table and pyongyang saying thanks, but no thanks. what happens next in another international hot spot with the pentagon sending more marines to afghanistan and demoying air power out. more than halfway through the president's first year and more than half of americans don't like him. his approval slipping in new polls out this morning and wait until you see those numbers on honesty and twitter habits. for a slow summer tuesday, we have a ton to talk about and our team is here covering all of it. i want to start with kristen
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welker with the president in new jersey. kristen, when you talk through what is happening in north korea, the president clearly wants the focus to be on this, but even just this morning on "today" show the u.n. ambassador said, listen, we don't know if this thing will actually work. >> that's right. the strategy right now the united states ramping up its words and its actions. we know president trump had an hour-long conversation with his secretary of state rex tillerson and his newly installed chief of staff, john kelly, yesterday to talk about the crisis in north korea. and that came on the heels of the united nations unanimously agreeing to impose an unprecedented billion dollars worth of sanctions on north korea. but as you point out, the big question, will north korea listen? will they heed this stern warning and this international response. what is significant is that the united states got china and russia onboard with those new round of sanctions and u.s. ambassador nikki haley had this n


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