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that will wrap up this hour. i'm chris jansing in for stephanie ruhle. more news with hallie jackson. because you didn't get enough travel on the road in 2016 in maine. >> thank you, chris. appreciate it. thank you for joining us as we take this show on the road literally this week. live this morning from beautiful bangor, maine, outside the beltway to talk with voters across america about the state of our country with the focus today on the military to start our show because we're looking at breaking news. that ship collision in the pacific. ten sailors missing. how could this happen, again? we expect to hear any minute from the defense secretary about this. it comes as we look ahead to the president in primetime. weather to put more american lives on the line to end america's longest war.
we have new reporting on what to expect. plus, exclusive interviews on that and everything else with maine senators susan collins and angus king. we'll talk about the president, plan for health care reform and what maine voters really want from washington. and, of course, we have to mention the total eclipse of cable news. yes, the solar eclipse that everybody is talking about. and even though we'll only see about 54% of it in maine. we're live on the ground where they'll see 100% of it from the first glimpse of the eclipse to the last. south carolina low country. our team is set up and ready to go from all over the world. we want to start with our chief global correspondent bill neeley who is live with the latest on this ship collision from seoul. >> yes, good morning, hallie. this is an intense search and rescue operation. it is not a recovery operation. a rescue operation for those ten missing sailors and it's a huge
search area. we're being told more than 100 square miles. it's taking place in darkness and involves aircraft and helicopters and planes from four different countries. the "uss john s. mccain" is in port in singapore. four sailors airlifted off that ship is in the hospital right now. the u.s. navy saying there is considerable damage. that the gash is wide and it was only the actions of the sailors onboard that prevented further flooding. the water went in, they say, to crew cabins. to maintenance areas and to communication areas. so, flooding, obviously, was a major problem. the key question, hallie, is how on earth did this happen? how is it that one of united states' most sophisticated war ships with guidance and navigation systems onboard
collided with this oil tanker. yes, albeit very busy waters. one of the busiest sea channels in the world. a quarter of the world's trade goes through it. but sophisticated ship like that collided with this oil tanker. and, of course, it's not the first time. there have been four recent similar collisions in the last year. the most recent and the most deadly one, of course, in june when the "uss fitzgerald" crashed into a container ship. seven sailors were killed. the u.s. navy had an investigation and concluded there was bad seamenship. >> sorry to interrupt. we have to interrupt bill neely with breaking news. james mattis speaking live now in jordan. we'll listen in because he is addressing what bill was just talking about. let's listen. it looks like our picture may be frozen here. as defense secretary mattis is
addressing this. i want to bring in hans nichols who has been listening to what the defense secretary has to say. walk us through what the pentagon is saying and what you know right now as we wait for our live shot to come back up from overseas so we can listen to the defense secretary. >> we just heard the secretary of defense announce would be a fleetwide review of naval operations. he's speaking in jordan. like you, it was fading in and out. i heard the secretary of defense say they're going to take a look at naval operations. he is tasking the chief of naval operations to take a look at this and see what potentially could have caused two accidents so closely together. remember, the fitzgerald, bill was talking about that. there they did find poor seamanship. and had lost confidence in that leadership crew. they were detached for cause and now this other one with the "uss john s. mccain." what is happening right now, a dive team on location. unclear if they're underwater. taking a look at that damaged
hull and they think a number of birthing compartments were flooded. hallie, that's crucial because those seven and 35 people asleep when it crashed. seven of them didn't get out and they didn't find them until the divers went below the surface water. the water line and found them. so, we'll see whether or not a similar situation plays out with the "mccain." but the latest update from here, at least from ahman with secretary of defense mattis. he seems to be ordering a navywide review. hallie. >> hans, how unusual a step is it for a step like this, this navy-wide review given this is not the first time we have seen a ship collision like you and bill neely have pointed out. >> you saw the marine corps separate from the secretary of defense put its own review on in aircraft because it they had two crashes in the last two months. what the marine corps did is they required a 24-hour pause
for all aviation operations at the commander's discretion. so, some of this has to do with the churn of new people coming in. want to get a sense of things. what happened with the maerrine is they took a look. we want to take a pause. we don't know if any of these accidents are connected. they want to analyze what's going on. not entirely unheard of. but, again, i think we'll want to listen to the full remarks from secretary mattis on a clean line and get to the bottom of this. hallie. >> hans, i'll let you do that in one minute. the other big headline tonight i'm heading back to washington for that primetime address from president trump talking about what the strategy is now for afghanistan. what do we know now? >> we know it's finally been completed after months of review. throughout the review period, the taliban has really gained ground inside of afghanistan. now, secretary mattis has been very clear about, even though he had the technical authority from the president to add more
troops, he wasn't going to do that until secretary mattis heard a clear strategy that everyone within the president's national security council bought into. now you can expect the troop levels to change. 4,000 is the number that is out there. it could be lower or higher. now that they have a strategy, then they'll decide the exact troop numbers. i think the key thing to listen for is pakistan. what the president says about going after terrorists and extremist networks in pakistan. they're doing all these cross border raids. one other note, look to see whether or not he wants to plus up the counterterrorism mission. this is the mission going after isis and how much he wants to do traditional nation building. hallie? >> hans, i'll let you listen in to the defense secretary's remarks from jordan. thank you for that set up. i want to go to kristen welker live at the white house. this is a significant policy announcement for president trump. obviously, when you talk about what we know about where the
president has been when it comes to afghanistan as a candidate and even before then, he does not seem to support putting more troops on the ground. do you know what direction he might head in now? >> i think the president is going to announce a big picture strategy tonight, hallie. as he makes his case. you heard hans talking about the fact that we're expecting him to announce that there will be more troops, potentially as many as 4,000 more, although that number may be slightly off. we'll have to see what he actually plans to announce. but bottom line, this is not going to be a series of fixes tonight. this is going to be his broader vision for fixing the crisis in afghanistan. the fact that you had gains by the taliban in recent months. i do think that pakistan will be a key focus, as hans talked about. he will likely map out his strategy for getting leaders there to be tougher and crack down on sanctuary areas, frankly. for housing taliban fighters. i also think you'll hear him
talk about the political process, moving forward to try and get less corruption in afghanistan, which is, obviously, been a big issue and stood in the way of progress there in that region. this comes after the president huddled, of course, with his national security team on friday at camp david and talked about the way forward and what was so significant about that, hallie. came on the same day at the president announced the ouster of his chief strategist steven bannon, who was, of course, opposed to expanding the united states engagement in foreign wars. this does mark a big shift in thinking here for this president. it's something that one of his other top advisors during the campaign talked about over the weekend. take a lissen . >> he hates spending the money and hates sending our soldiers over to anywhere in the world where it's not necessary. where it's not in the vital interest of the united states. >> so, this is a shift in thinking. this was trump in 2013, hallie. in a tweet he says, do not allow
our very stupid leaders to sign a leader that keeps us in afghanistan through 2012 with all costs by the usa. make america great. so, even as early as 2013, he was pretty clear that he was opposed to this type of expansion. but, now, obviously, things look a lot different here from the oval office after having been briefed by his top national security team. i anticipate he will stress that point when he delivers that address later tonight, hallie. >> kristen welker laying it out in the briefing room of the white house. the former iraq director of the national security council under president george w. bush and president obama. now and here is steve misler public radio. thank you, both, for being here. doug, i'll start with you. you're a friend of the show. the last time we had you on here, there are no good options when it comes to afghanistan. what is the good option for president trump here? does it exist?
>> i don't think the good option exists. he's in a very, very similar place that president obama found himself in eight years ago looking at a similar bad set of options. it sounds like he's going to, essentially, stay the course. with a slight increase and there will be talk about changing the strategy. but we've been working the strategy here for 16 years. not like a magic bullet out there that everyone has missed for the last decade and a half. we're essentially going to do something very similar to what we've been doing. >> and what aboutthe afghanistan commitment here. thousands of afghans have been killed, for example, just this year in all of this. do you expect president trump to call on them to either step up or increase their commitment? >> well, i think the afghans are giving all they can. they put their troops against this, although we're paying for their army almost in its entirety. hard to see what more the afghans can do.
politically they're a mess and call for afghan leaders to get themselves together in kabul. for example, no defense minister. >> steve, at one point maine had the highest rate of casualties in afghanistan. this war feels very close, obviously, to folks here in maine. so, if president trump does decide to add more boots on the ground, potentially 4,000 more u.s. troops as we've been talking about here, how is that going to go over with folks at this state? >> that's a good question. i think one of the -- when he was campaigning the idea of pulling out of military conflicts, i think, really resonated with the voters that selected him. especially in the second congressional district in maine. and, you know, i think if he's going to reengage or commit more troops, he'll have to make a good case to mainers, in particular. there's an end goal here. >> do you expect him to do that
tonight? >> i think so. that's what we're hearing and i think they're anxiously awaiting that. not only committed a lot of troops to afghanistan. we have the highest, one of the highest percentage of veterans per capita in the united states. so, veterans issues, military issue is very important here. >> doug, let me ask you this. i had a chance to sit down with angus king, you'll see it later in the show. i talked to him about afghanistan. if the president puts more troops on the ground, would you support that? he said depends on what they're there to do. the best option for u.s. force physical we end up increasing the number of americans on the ground in afghanistan. >> depends on whether we have a short term or a long-term focus. if the intent is just to remove those groups that are a clear and present danger to the united states, then it is the counterterrorism option we've been talking about. putting u.s. troops against isis in afghanistan. if it's about setting up afghanistan as a place that
ensure that it's never a haven for any groups, that the government controls it, well, it's an entirely different strategy. that's focusing on building the afghanistan government, the afghan military. that's a much, much longer timeline. but it's the only way you can ensure that you're not having to do counterterrorism in the country forever. >> doug ollavant, thank you very much for being with us live from washington. >> thank you. >> you're coming back, don't go too far. you should be because it's pretty impressive here. two senators from this state have seen two administrations debate what to do in afghanistan. one of those lawmakers susan collins is joining us next. we're talking war strategy, the gop agenda and, of course, her pivotal no-vote on health care. we talked with some folks in maine about that a little earlier. >> actually, susan collins really voted well. i'm proud of her. i'm proud of her for sticking to her guns. or this john smith.
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>> what advice to you have for president trump? >> just to keep his mouth shut and stay off twitter. >> be intelligent when you make remarks instead of just talking off the wall. >> he needs to be isolated and then he needs to be impeached. and that's the only way forward for this country. well, that's a little friendly advice for president trump from some voters here in maine. republican senator susan collins of maine may have some, as well,
for the president. she's joining us exclusively now. senator, thank you for being with us here. >> well, thank you. welcome to bangor, maine. >> i have to start with the news of the day, which is what is happening in afghanistan. you watched this war play out for 16 years. are you confident that the president can execute some kind of a successful strategy, if it means increasing the number of troops on the ground? >> well, we need to hear the strategy that the president is going to present tonight. i will say two things. and that is that in the past 16 years, our efforts in ga afghanistan which have cost the lives of so many troops have lacked focus. there hasn't been a strategy. and, second, we need a strategy that is going to deal with the influence of countries like pakistan, like iran, like russia. >> so, if the president decides to stay the course, as he may do, is that enough for you? >> i'm worried about that.
if you look at a map of afghanistan, the taliban has made enormous gains in the last couple of years. i don't want afghanistan to be a safe haven for terrorist attacks the way that it was prior to the attacks on our country on 9/11. but this is a very difficult issue. and i'm glad that there's been a detailed analysis of what to do. that's what we needed. >> i know you will be watching that address tonight as people across maine. likely be in the front page tomorrow. what was in the front page today i want to show you of the bangorbangor daily news. and in the wake of that, your republican colleague, senator corker questioned president trump's competency. senator tim scott said the president had compromised his moral authority. what do you say about the president's response? >> the president had an obligation, a moral obligation to speak with absolute clarity from the very beginning. and stick with that to denounce
the neo-nazis, the white supremacist the ant supremacist and he wavered back and forth. >> what does that say to you about his leadership? >> in this case, i think the president failed to meet the standard that we would have expected a president to do in a time like that. there should be no place for hatred, bigotry and racism in this country. and he should have said that very clearly. he did at times, but then he wavered back and forth. >> given your concerns about that, senator, at what point, though, given what we heard from your republican colleagues, too, does that talk turn into action? at what point, if any, do you not support his renomination? >> well, i didn't support the president when he was our party's nominee. that was a very difficult position for me to take. i'd never taken it before. instead, i wrote in the name of paul ryan.
and that was very hard for me to do as a life-long republican. >> he is running for re-election. what is happening next? >> too hard to tell. there is a long ways to tell between now and that point. >> do you think he will end up the party's nominee in 2020? >> it's too difficult to say. >> let me ask you about health care. that is something that was critical about the president on the campaign. you were one of the pivotal no-votes on that. there is still talk about this coming back up in the fall. is repeal and replace dead altogether? >> repeal without a replacement that is workable, that doesn't hurt vulnerable people and destroy the ability to deliver a health care in rural america, i hope it's behind us. that does not mean that our job is done. there are serious problems with the affordable care act. high premiums. the insurers fleeing the markets. so, even if you have a subsidy, no policy that you can buy.
and we're starting hearings in the senate health committee in september to address those issues. >> so, to help stabilize the individual markets. is that enough? is that going to be the accomplishment you can point to when we talk on the december break? >> it's not enough. but it's an essential first step. i see a series of bills where we address many of the problems that are associated with the aca. >> you have been trying to work to lower prescription drug pricing, for example, which is an example for a lot of folks here in maine. is that an area where you see bipartisan consensus? >> i really hope so. i am so offended by an investigation that i conducted with clare mccaskill last year on the aging committee where we found that companies were buying these drugs from which the patent had expired and literally overnight hiking the cost of medicine by as much as 5,000%. we need to have a more competitive marketplace where generics are more readily available. and we're working with the fda
commissioner to do just that. >> two more very quick questions for you. are you satisfied with senator mcconnell's leadership on health care and his response to president trump and the way he's conducting his business? >> i don't always agree with senator mcconnell, but i think he has been a good and effective leader. >> you continue to back him as the leader of the senate? >> i do. >> opioid issues are, obviously, crucial here in maine. if funding does come through for more prevention and help with people who are struggling with addiction, where do you go? >> we need a three-prong approach and we need to focus on prevention education and focus on treatment and we need to focus on law enforcement. you have to do all three. the most painful statistic in maine is 1,000 babies were born last year to addicted mothers. >> it's a powerful statistic and one that is hard to hear. before i let you go, political discussion about your role, your future here in maine. are you going to run for
governor? >> i have not made a decision. on the one hand, a lot of seniority in the senate and i started out at 99. and i serve on the appropriations committee which has allowed me to do a lot of good for the people of maine. on the other hand, governor is more hands-on. you can do more to create good jobs. so, i'm weighing where i can do the most good for the people of maine. >> does the fact that it's president trump who you would be working with as a senator who you clearly have disagreements and play in with your decision? >> i want to evaluate where i can do the best for the people of maine and i'm taking in a lot of advice from people. >> senator collins i hope if and when you make that decision, you'll come back and share it with us. i appreciate you being here with us from bangor, maine. where we are in bangor is only going to see half of today's solar eclipse, sadly. next, we'll take you to the place where this whole thing is going to be seen. you can see him there.
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we are back now with a look at this morning's headlines. we have some new developments after that overnight collision involving a u.s. naval destroyer. ten sailors still missing. secretary of defense james mattis just a couple minutes ago confirming two new pentagon investigations. the first a look into just how that crash happened. the other investigation started by the pentagon's chief of naval operations for a broader examination. >> i want to begin by saying that my thoughts and prayers are with the sailors and the families of the "uss john mccain." we, obviously, have an investigation under way. and that will determine what happened. once we have those facts, we'll share them with you. >> meanwhile, thousands of u.s. and south korean troops have kicked off annual military drills. we've been talking about that. those war games.
north korea calling this reckless and a move that can trigger what they describe as an uncontrollable phase of a nuclear war. now, listen, these drills are mostly computer simmialated. the drills happen every year and they are now taking on added significance after north korea's two intercontinental ballistic missile tests last month. and in spain, officials have raised the death toll to 15 in last week's van attack in barcelona. an international manhunt continues now for the 22-year-old suspect from morocco accused of plowing the van into a crowded market last thursday. now, you may have heard a thing or two, maybe, about a little something called the solar eclipse. it is the first total eclipse to be seen in the united states in, what, four decades or so. you've got 14 states with the best views. check them out here. the 70-mile wide stretch called the path of totality. a show in the sky that starts in just a few hours in the pacific northwest, which has a front row seat to all the action and, of
course, so does msnbc jacob who is in madras, oregon, where thousands of people have been camping out to see this thing. jacob, i saw your tweet this morning. you said it, basically the cochecha of science fairs. it must be amazing to be out there. >> it's unbelievable, hallie. this small town, madras normally has 7,000 people that live here. today 100,000 people are here. it makes this town which is normally the 80th biggest town the fourth biggest city in the state. people are going up in a hot air balloon to go look that sun. the reason this is such a great spot, we are east of the pacific coast mountain range and the cascades which make the skies just as blue as it could be. an extraordinary thing to see and the weather will be just as good as it is anywhere in the country. get the total solar eclipse for only about two minutes here. but an hour and a half before
and the hour and a half after you'll have a partial solar eclipse. they gave us these glasses to take a look at the sun. i will try them on for the first time. one of the first times i'm putting these on. you can't see a darn thing other than the sun. as i stare straight into the sun and i look like the terminator. >> you do. >> i can look at the sun and all its beauty through these things. when the eclipse rolls around for two minutes you can take them back off and look around here where it willoughby just as dark as nighttime in the middle of the day. 10:19 local time and 1:19 where you are, hallie. a lot of people are excited. amazing thing to be a part of, honestly. >> how do you get these assignments? i think you have the best job in television. i'm convinced of it. >> i think i do. we'll talk offline. we could swap some tips. >> all right. how has the tent been? everybody is in a good mood and hanging out. >> i slept in a tent here last night. that's the whole thing.
this is not glamping, this is real camping. people waited two hours in line, hallie, to get in here. which is the less glamorous part of this job. all the way in here, bumper to bumper. people are dedicated. it is coach chocochela for scie nerds. >> you are in the middle of it. thank you. appreciate it. should be a cool afternoon. back here in maine where, sadly, we will not see the total eclipse, but we are seeing a lot more. seeing a lot from voters here from the top issue for them when they voted in november. you know what it was? the economy. also a big focus when folks here told us their advice for president trump. >> keep an eye on the smaller business people. you know, he's got all these big corporate companies and stuff. what about the little guys? if you have medicare
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business people. you know, he's got all these big corporate companies and stuff. but what about the little guys. >> look out for the small business guy and also look out for our elderly and our veterans. they served our country so we can have what we're doing today. >> i think i would love to see him follow through with his campaign promise. >> what do you think the biggest issue is to people facing me? >> jobs. jobs is one of our biggest issues. we are one of the -- >> welfare reform. so many frauds out there milking the system that shouldn't be milking the system. >> whether it be with other countries or the health care issues we have here. there are so many issues that are pending resolution. i just want to see an answer to something. >> steve mistler is state house bureau chief for maine public radio. joining us now outside the beltway, steve, thank you for being here. >> happy to do it. >> you heard reaction from some of the voters. maine is one of the poorest
states in the country, but maine actually ranks 31st out of 51 in median household income. that's low, but not the lowest. why do you think, though, people feel like they're struggling so much in maine? >> i think one of the big things is we lost many employers in the state. specifically in the paper industry. we had mills shuttering left and right over the past ten years. while unemployment is low here, historically low, a lot of people are underemployed and not making what they used to and not having the good, union paying job any longer. it's almost a state of mind in some ways. when the president came to maine, he came here three times to campaign, which is unusual. he talked about replacing those jobs. getting them back. bringing back manufacturing jobs. you know, good-paying jobs. so far, i mean, i think that's what people are waiting to see. >> one of the things when we talk about maine with senator collins or senator king is the
opioid crisis that is hitting maine really hard. in 2016 367 overdose deaths. 32 of those deaths happened here in bangor. we didn't talk to every person in the state but only representative and only one person brought up the opioid crisis. does that surprise you? >> not much has been done to address it because what you have right now is this dynamic where people are supporting, advocates for treatment are pushing for treatment options, expanding treatment. more money to treatment facilities, et cetera. but there's a sentiment, i think, in the public that people have made a decision. they chose to use and that they don't deserve that much sympathy. that's the real struggle for policymakers in the state, too. the legislature hasn't been able to do anything with this. >> steve, that's really interesting, thank you. i'll make you hang out a little
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we are back in bangor, maine, the first of three stops in our outside the beltway road show this week. we caught up with angus king who served two terms as governor here and he's doing his own tour on his harley. for senator angus king 600 miles from washington, this is where the rubber meets the road. >> nice to meet you. yes, indeed. >> we've been riding around with you as you've been on your motorcycle through maine over the weekend on this break. you have been talking to a lot of folks. what have you heard that surprised you? >> people are still talking about health care and still saying thank you for your vote. >> that surprised you? >> usually when i meet people traveling around. how are you doing? isn't it crazy in washington? when they start talking about
individual issues like health care, that's somewhat unusual. >> thanks for your thoughtfulness. >> i'm working on it. >> pushing plenty of horsepower on his harley at a time it's much slower paced in d.c. this august recess has been one headline after another revolving around the president's divisive response. have you been satisfy would the president's response to this violence? >> yes, no and yes. >> no his first response on saturday when charlottesville happened and he said, well, there's problems on both sides. i didn't think that was the right response and then monday he had a press conference where he said all the right things and then tuesday he started answering questions and went back to saturday. they're not finding people marching under the nazi flag and i think it was a false equivalence that really muddied the issue. there's nothing good about bigotry and hatred and anti-semitism. these people were chanting, you
can't replace us with jews. come on. >> the president would say he condemned neo-naziism and the kkk. is that not enough for you? >> he did on monday but on tuesday he got back into this thing a little bit on both sides and both sides were violent and sort of tried to make it sound like it was equivalent. >> why do you think this? >> i don't know. he was just, he was just talking about what he felt was on the top of his mind. >> do you believe the president believes in some of those views? >> i don't think so. i think part of the problem is being president and talking, anything you say is policy. and i think he's used to just talking. you know, talking with his friends and thinking off the top of his head. you can't do that when you're president. you're setting a moral tone for the country. you can move markets and you can start a war. you have to be really careful about every word you say and i don't think he gets that. >> so, what should he do now? >> number one, i think he should
stop tweeting. >> is that realrealistic? >> of course, he could just stop. >> sort of crazy. isn't it sad when being reasonable is a remarkable -- thank you for being reasonable. >> stay off twitter. >> you're going to have a very busy fall after this august recess. >> i'll say. we have three weeks to do a budget and do the debt ceiling. >> can you? >> yes. it can be done. >> really, you had seven months and congress didn't do too much? >> well, congress only operates just like everybody else on deadlines. >> so, you think given that the pressures of end of september come and you'll get it done. >> i'm not so sure about the budget. the budget could be done. we could do a budget in a week. the question is, will the leadership have the will to do it. and just get it done. the debt ceiling, that's a pretty straight forward vote. >> is tax reform realistic in the fall? that's something that is very important to president trump, to some republicans. >> i think it is going to be
very tough. there is a reason tax reform hasn't been done since 1986. there are winners and losers and congress isn't good at making that kind of judgment. >> the last two weeks of recess in maine flying by. >> i can tell recess flying by. >> motorcycle is the way to go because the phone never rings. >> a few moments where the phone is actually not ringing. back with me now chief plett cal correspondent from maine public radio. steve, final thoughts for you on what you just watched? >> first of all, i'm surprised senator king can pull off the chaps for starters. how many u.s. senators can do that. >> okay. >> but anyway, i think a couple of things that in your man on the street segment i was interested in was to hear people talk about what's the issues affecting them. welfare, for example. i think that's been an issue in maine. the governor here, governor paula page has used to great effect. you could argue he secured two
electoral victories using that. i wonder if at some point president trump will start talking about that, too. >> steve, thank you very much for joining us here on our set in gorgeous maine. we really lucked out and picked a beautiful day to be here. i appreciate you coming on. coming up next, we're talking about again the other big story of the day. the eclipse. a few minutes ago we took you live to where the whole thing kicks off on the west coast. we're going to take you to the finish line on the east coast. here is a live look at uss yorktown in south carolina. there it is as we wrap up our outside the beltway in bangor.
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the last total solar eclipse of the sun america will see this century. >> soon after dawn pacific northwest moon shadow began to slide in front of the sun further east past the cascade mountains. the sky was clear enough for the sky to see the sun disappear. >> that's a little throw-back action there with the "nbc nightly news" clip from 1979, the last year americans got to witness a total solar eclipse. "now" on this show we talked with jacob soboroff at the starting line in oregon. let's head up the finish line east coast, specifically mount pleasant, south carolina, across the cooper river from charlotte. that's where we find nbc tom costello aboard uss yorktown at
the patriots point naval and maritime museum. tom, you've got the best seat in the house, pal? >> we hope so. we hope the weather holds. i'm going to introduce you to the doctor in a minute. take a look at the drone shot hovering above yorktown here in charleston harbor. this is the last spot where we see the total eclipse of the sun in a few hours. the doctor with us, phd, astrophysicist from smithsonians harvard, that means she's really smart. talk to me about the path here. what i find interesting is you can be just a 15-minute drive from one location to another and yet that spot is in darkness 30 seconds longer. why is that? >> it's the path of the angle of the moon shadow that hits the earth. the change can be the difference in the time you see totality. >> also, across that totality zone we see temperatures drop? >> about 15 degrees. this is really going to cool off
here. >> you, astro scientists are really excited about seeing the sun's corona. what is it and why should we care? >> a million degree atmosphere. this is what i study and this is what we're sending a probe to study next year. >> you once told me in an interview. we talked above, because i think she's so great. you told me the sun's atmosphere is hotter than the sun itself. >> exactly. this is one of the mysteries we're trying to solve. heat source of the sun is in the center. the surface gets cooler and hotter as you step away from is. it would be the same as if you're going away from a campfire and getting warmer which doesn't make sense. we have to send a probe to figure that out. >> how does the eclipse help you understand that? >> what the eclipse helps us understand is the structure of the sun of that solar corona or atmosphere of the sun. that's what helps us. it helps us test instruments we send closer to the sun or bigger missions to you said tunderstan
>> thank you. >> you're welcome. >> we'll have her for nbc and special report. the bottom line, though, you've got to wear those solar shades. we talked to an ophthalmologist who said you can seriously burn your retina for staring at the sun a few seconds and it can be irreversible. back to you. >> real quick, clouds in the background. are you worried about it? what's the deal? >> we're worried. we've had lightning, thunder. we're hoping we have clear skies. at the moment we've got scattered cloud cover. we're hoping at least we get a little bit of sunlight at 2:46 this afternoon. >> nbc's tom costello live in mount pleasant, south carolina. part of the special report and coverage on this network and nbc news. of course when we talk about today's big picture it's what we've been talking about all hour long, this total eclipse. in washington, 1979, the last
time the mainland saw the solar eclipse. this is director of the observatory peering into a celestron telescope to view the solar eclipse. a little different today, gear more high tech but wonder and amazement of it all not changeing a bit. hit me up on facebook, twitter, snapchat, instagram and let me know what you think about the eclipse and what you think about our road trip outside the beltway. here in maine we're going to nevada on wednesday. thursday we're going to be in texas. yes, it's a little bit of a schedule flip because tonight i'm actually heading back to washington to watch president trump deliver that prime time address. part of our special coverage tonight on nbc news and then back on the road starting wednesday. we will see you tomorrow from d.c. and then outside the beltway for the rest of the week talking everything from infrastructure to jobs to the economy to health care and more. that disit for us for this hour of "msnbc live" from bangor.
say good-bye to this set. i am sad, too. i am happy to see hello to my colleague ali velshi picking up coverage in new york. >> the things you said you were going to talk about, they are all things i like to talk about. i said about five times. >> you should be here. >> how many times did i say that? >> right here. you said it every single day for the last week and a half. >> nice to see you, though. the view is spectacular, hallie. we will follow you on our adventures across the country. i'm ali velshi, stephanie ruhle is in south carolina for the total solar eclipse. let's get started. >> frantic coach for missing sailors off the coast of singapore after a collision between a u.s. destroyer and oil tanker. >> flying under iberian flag. >> that's too bad. too bad. >> later tweeting, "thoughts and prayers are with our u.s. navy sailors aboard