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holding another press conference any moment. keep an eye out for that. that's all for me tonight. we're going to be back more on monday with mtp daily. the beat with ari melber starts ri right now. tonight washington is completing funding for one hurricane while bracing for another. fall out also continuing for that historic appearance by donald trump junior before senate investigators. tonight we have a report on where the russia probe is heading including who bob mueller wants to interview and the latest this politics. we are beginning in florida where the authorities, experts and scientists all agree on one thing. this hurricane is on the way. a category 4 storm. it's expected to tear into the u.s. coastline at wind speeds now exceed 155 miles an hour and the estimates and surges that may exceed ten feet in height. we also can report 17 deaths from the impact alone in the
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bahamas already. the path of the storm can wind through the state of florida. 1 out of every 20 americans live there. buildings to collapse into the sea. one estimate from the national weather service tells us some areas will be inaccessible to human beings for weeks or more. >> this storm has taken lives already. it's going to take more unfortunately. >> the this thing looks like a monster. >> we're running out of time. the storm is almost here. >> we may be running out of time. at my moment we expect to hear a new update from florida governor rick scott. important for people in that state as well as folks around the country. we'll bring that to you live. we begin with nbc's jose diaz who joins us from miami. what can you tell us about what's happening as people make
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these preparations. >> reporter: good evening. this could be the largest mass evacuation in the history of united states. what's going on in south florida is something i've never seen before and i think it would be safe to say that very few people have. the amount of people that have decided to leave this area, we're talking about hundreds of thousands of people, tourists that have been here as well as residents from the keys all the way up north through the area in orlando. this mass movement and you're seeing in that story how someone says it looks post. apocalyptic. this is a vibranvibrant, multicl city filled with colors and lights and passion. it is a ghost town here. i just saw two joggers pass by. the cars you see are very few and far between. the long lines you see are just at gas stations.
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people have taken this very seriously because it is such a monster storm. south florida has had a history of dealing with monster storms. i'm thinking of the 24th of august of 1992. i covered hurricane andrew. it was a far different storm. it was a category 5 storm. it left deep scars in south florida. you know what, that was 25 years ago. a lot of people that are here have never been through a storm like this. as the cone shifts and as it seems as though it goes more western one day or more eastern, the fact of the matter is this is a storm that everybody here has taken very seriously hoping for the best, preparing for the worst and that includes people just hunkering down and getting ready to deal with what could be a devastating storm. >> our colleague that's covered so many of these. thank you for your report and stay safe. >> reporter: good to see you. >> now to msnbc weather
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contributor over in miami beach. what can you tell us? >> reporter: hey ari. i want to set it up for you. we're standing on miami beach in my home on the balcony. you're look out at downtown miami there. those are some of the islands behind us that people have homes on. then you see the high-rises that are built along biscayne bay behind me. i will say what jose has said and that's the beach has never been more quiet. it's jam packed normally. now there's a handful of cars. he mentioned a bit about andrew. we can make a comparison to show you what the two storms are like if you put them back to back. andrew came in in 1992. was a cat 5 in the water but came on shore as a cat 4 and cut right across the bottom of the state. that went from east to west. the damage was intense. it was damage from south miami and flattened homestead and then
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moved right out into the gulf. now take a look at irma. irma is just about double the size if you put them together. irma was a category 5 for 69 hours. it's been breaking hours the entire trip over here. that shatters the record. the previous record was 17 hours. unbelievable of this strength of storm. still should be a four as it makes impact. this storm will go from the south of florida all the way to the north of florida. no matter what happens with its wobble on its initial impact. everyone in the state of florida has to watch the strength of this storm. as far as impact, the strongest part is right in the eye wall. the tight center, the beautiful clear center if you're looking at it from satellite picture.
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it has been in the most populated areas of south florida. now the hurricane center has adjusted that to the west. we're still cutting the storm across the central keys. that will be devastating for the keys. devastating for the keys. where ever the initial impact of the storm, it will be equally as bad. i don't want people to relax when they see that little wobble from that east coast maybe to the west coast side. i don't want you to relax at all in any location. stay tight with this storm. this is a big, big monster storm. >> important warnings. we appreciate the historical comparison and context. it really gives you another way to understand how massive this can be. stay safe. thank you. walk us through why it is that it stays a category 5 or 4 for however long and how it hits land and how that affects the
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potential devastation here. >> there's no analogy to this storm. we never had a storm this strong that will cross this much land. we have nothing to compare this too. we tried with andrew a little bit. this is twice the size and will be with us two time, maybe three times as long. they are all pinpointing further west in between key west and key largo. you wonder if the bridge will even remain intact after going through this as we go throughout sunday. this is also when the hurricane force winds will arrive through all of south florida. the miami area, homestead, across alligator alley. the forecast has gotten much worse today in areas for naples, fort myers, even the tampa area. if we're going to see the cat 5 destruction that the wind s can do, that will be around naples.
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you only have about 24 hours left. you don't want to be sheltering in place unless you really have to. we slowed this down a little bit. as of 2:00 a.m. monday, it will still likely be a category 2 hurricane right over the top of central florida. that's where all our models are pinpointing. that's extreme power outages and a lot of down trees. people didn't have power for two weeks. don't think that further north is that much safer. by the time we get to 10:00 a.m. on monday, it's still in florida. we're talking about 24 to 28 hours of this storm remaining in florida. we still have about 24 hours. what could change. our american and european models are in excellent agreement.
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they shifted further west during the day. there's the landfall right on the keys. by 2:00 p.m., that's when the worst of it will be in for ft. lauderdale and miami. even though storm, the really nasty 150 miles an hour winds will be over here. we will still have 100 miles an hour winds. about 50 to 60 mile ace ws away the center. that's when we'll lose the power. that's when we will have window shattered. that's when we will have trees go down. still horrible in ft. lauderdale. hopefully a little break by sunday evening. we're trying to pinpoint who will go through the eye wall. that's where the ultimate destruction will be. everybody else still has to go
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through the tropical storm force winds and the hurricane force gusts. i don't think anyone in florida is safe from getting less than hurricane force gusts. this area that we show here, the hurricane, look how huge that is. that's easily going to cover the entire peninsula as we go throughout the day sunday. as the storm weakens that area shrinks a little bit. we're hoping the damage around melbourne, space coast, cocoa beach, flagler county, we're hoping it's not going to be quite extreme. that's one of the stories we have to watch. these wind gusts are going to be pretty incredible. we're about to witness something that hardly any of us have seen before. the fact it's such a large storm means no one will be spared in florida. if i had to pinpoint one city that's i'm very concerned for,
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p it's that marco island in naples area. >> you're speaking to the true lack of any modern precedent. you were saying that wide, wide red circle representing the core of the hurricane, we can see that moving up. is there any time that something that wide has hit this much land mass in the united states? >> we've had huge storms before. floyd was a big storm. katrina had a huge wind field. very large tropical force. we had storms that's this big before. katrina was like a category 4 bordering on category 5 in the gulf. by the time it made landfall it did weaken down to a category 3. this is expected to maintain its intensity. it may get stronger right before that landfall. we saw what that does. harvey did that. the storms that get stronger right before they come on shore, they have a little more oomph to them. if we get this expected path
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over the top of the naples area that's where wilma came on shore. category 2 is not double worse than one. it's worse and worse. a category 5 is 500 times worse than a category 1. >> we're using a simple number system but it reflects a kind of growth that is really the potential humanitarian crisis we're keeping an eye on. >> can you imagine how we're going to get power back to the state of florida?blocked. people will want to get back to their home. power crews will have to go through the state. maybe months. >> i will mention a lot of our viewers know you if your coverage as a colleague and listener i've never heard you sound an alarm quite like this.
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obviously -- >> last year with matthew it was close to this. matthew just barely missed. i don't see any way this one does. >> right. thank you. we'll be checking back in with you later in this hour. we taked about the authorities preparation. we talked about the science and meteorology. now we go to the people. jacob has been in and around miami beach all day talking the people, local residents and folks trying to help them under this mandatory evacuation order which kwaz pers put in place yesterday. what can you tell us. what are you seeing at this hour? >> reporter: thank you goodness, there's not many people out here on miami beach right now. i was talking to our friend and colleague earlier today on our air. to think about this is a friday afternoon now evening, on miami beach on south beach and there's not a person in sight or just a couple as you look down the beach. when you talk about the storm
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surge we're plus or minus a few feet at quote unquote sea level standing right here in front of the atlantic ocean. we're talking about five feet or ten feet of storm surge once it comes out here. what that is going to affect is not just people on the beach, it will affect the entirety or much of miami dade county that sits at our below sea level. what else it's going to affect are these buildings. we have thousands, 91,000 people live on miami beach in the city of miami beach. we're talking about hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars worth of construction, infrastructure. you have elderly people that have decided to ride out the storm as we brought to our viewers earlier today. there's still some people that have decided not to leave this area. if and when that storm surge hits this area, the entire miami beach which is like i said, essentially, it is an island, could end up under water. that's the big concern be p the
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concern is getting people out in time. the good news is the local police department, miami beach fire department, ocean rescue has been out here all day long driving up and down this beach. telling people to get out. that somewhat they are saying today which is after 40 miles an hour winds the local first responders are not going to be out in tropical storm winds. you're on your own. if anybody is watching this, they are in the miami beach area, it's time to get out. it was time to get out a long time ago. it is only going to get more danger from here on out. >> appreciate it, jacob. appreciate the message they are sending which is not to be dramatic but clear. there won't be help later. you have to act now. thank you. we'll be checking back in. we go right now to katie beck. this is on 95 north. what can you tell us? >> reporter: the same thing that jacob said. the highway here is an absolute wide open space. there are very few cars traveling at this hour.
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you've heard the stories of the traffic back up. thousands and thousands trying to rush out. i think that happened yesterday and the day before. today the roadways are really open. seems like people really heeded the evacuation warnings and headed to higher ground and safer places. struggle now is the path of the storm could end upcoming there as well. could end upcoming to orlando, which is where we are headed. we have learned that disney world has made an announcement that they will shut down the park presumably until about monday or tuesday. they haven't made that decision final yet. they said they want to make sure that all of their guests are safe and they are concerned enough about this storm making landfall in orlando. what that could mean for the safety of park goers. we will be headed to orlando but our trip there as i show you it's a pretty open wide 95 north right now. not too many people rushing to get away at this point which is probably a good sign.
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irma one of the most powerful storms on record. florida congressman joins me on the emergency planning. plus.
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i have my confidence in god. i know we have prepared for the storm. when a storm is coming, the best thing you can do is prepare for it. you don't just sit there. >> it's going to be unprecedented. it will be unprecedented. >> the beach right now, i went out this morning to look around, it's like post-apocalyptic. >> the miami dade area undertaking its single largest evacuation ever. officials telling over half a
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million people the time for waiting is over and it's time to get out. let's get right to it with florida congresswoman, debbie wasserman schultz. what is your top concern at this hour and what are you learning from your discussions with authorities? >> well, one of my main concerns is the folks that have refused to leave despite mandatory evacuation orders. while we have seen quite a few people make their way to shelters, get out from the low lying areas and miami dade, as you said, is undertaking the largest evacuation in their history. there are people that are choosing to stay put. this is a very, very serious storm. we're used to preparing for storms. there's a lot of people that get cynical. not ride out and deal with a significant storm.
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>> you showed a graphic earlier of andrew which was one of the most devastating storms in our history in the united states and irma would swallow andrew in terms of its size. my district appears to be headed for a direct hit. i represent an area that's the saw grass to the sea grass to the ever grades and ocean. it's just under a hundred miles. the width of the hurricane force winds is about 75 to 90 miles. people will get very hard. we have not had a storm that's really going to affect every major metropolitan area in the state virtually. that's my concern.
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all right prepositioned in the state. we're ready for the aftermath of this thing. it's going to be devastating. >> you mentioned the few people that are there for whatever reason aren't leaving. maybe they don't consume as much media. they feel they have quote, unquote been through this before. what do you want to say to them tonight? >> anyone within the sound of my voice that's in a mandatory evacuation zone, absolutely needs to get out. you do still have a few more hours. you have this evening that you can evacuate. get to higher ground. go west. go to an emergency hurricane shelter that are open and available. it's absolutely essential that you not leave yourself vulnerable in the path of
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devastating storm surge where there are no personnel available to help you if you remain in path of that storm. it's critical. >> congresswoman, thank you for joining us. a busy time for you and your con sti stitch wents. >> we're going to keep tracking this storm. up next, we're going to turn back to some other stories that would have been the top story tonight. breaking out in congress today, the resolution of one set of hurricane relief. democrats winning part of that fight. rifts deeping between the trump white house and republicans in congress and new reports on russia.
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president trump signing a harvey relief package. the house will send $15 billion out there for harvey with 90 kn
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noes from republicans. many republicans saying that trump blind sided them by cutting that deal with those two democrats you see there in the oval office. trump's budget director is actually the kind of republican who would be come plplaining ab this if he didn't take a job with trump. he founded the conservative freedom caucus. today, he was making the case for trump. >> i was in there today making the case. they should vote for this. >> that's not my question. >> that's not the right question to ask. >> why not? >> you won't say whether you would have voted for this. >> it's always helpful when people in politics tell us what the right questions are to ask. meanwhile, conservatives going in hard on treasury secretary steve mnuchin. >> i did. i thought he did a poor job in
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answering questions today. his last statement was vote for the debt ceiling for me. i thought that was pretty weak. >> weak. pressure mounting on speaker ryan. this morning a member refusing to voice support for paul ryan. >> do you want the leadership to change? are you okay with speaker ryan? >> i want us to do what we told the american people we were going to do. did they totally sucker trump? this is where policy and politics meets the hurricane. it's where politics and the age of donald trump goes, governor dean, where it doesn't seem like anyone, including donald trump knows what he's going to do when he walks in the room.
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>> that's true. if it was another president who had a track record of consistency and thoughtfulness, i think we would say this is really smart. here is why. there are about 90 of those people, about 70 of them weren't going to vote for this no matter what trump said. if trump is thinking ahead, which he never does, he actually dm knows he has to make a deal with the democrats because he can't get the republicans on board. ryan is too weak a speaker. it's odd because i don't give trump any credit for foresight but if another president had done this, we would be saying how smart he was. >> part of this that is bumbling into what could be strategy but as the governor says it's not strategy. doesn't count if it's an accident. >> i think for donald trump it was a mistake for this reason. what the democrats got out of this deal woas a very short ter
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leash on donald trump. to raise the debt ceiling to fund the government he needs democratic votes. a savvier president would have tried to get a deal funded for the next two years and put the democrats on the back bench for the next two years. it puts trump on a 90-day leash. he has to come back 90 days from now and get their votes again and perhaps two or three times before election day 2018. this means the democrat will be relevant. they will have leverage and be able to bring their preferences to the table and have some power this dealing with trump. that's what the democratic leaders very wisely got out of this agreement. >> dealing with trump appears to be a lot of one way loyalty. these republicans -- >> that's true. >> i want to play something for you. republicans upset about how he undercut them but he will no critici criticism. steve bannon in some flashy
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comments going back to what many trump supporters said they didn't agree with. what he said in the access hollywood tape. even if you do with some republican positions that was over the line. here is bannon on that. >> billy bush saturday to me is a litmus test. it's a litmus test. billy bush saturday showed me who really had donald trump's back to play to his better angels. all you had to do and what he did was go out and continue to talk to the american people. people didn't care. they knew donald trump was just doing locker room talk with the guy. christi because of billy bush weekend and was not looking for cabinet position. if you're on the plane, you're on the team. didn't make the plane. >> governor. >> i think that's probably right. i really do. i think his point is a very good
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one. what trump has done which is really infuriated the republicans is empower the democrats to do something about daca. now trump will have a choice. if he wants to work on another agreement of which daca is a part he can undo a fair amount incredible of the ill will the hispanic community has for trump. i agree. ron is absolutely right. he has empowered the democrats. that may not be all bad from my perspective. >> right. that goes to what he wants to do with it. the problem for donald trump is he has never articulated reasons for when he does these things. this looked really, as the kids would say, rando. governor dean thank you. ron, stay with me. we have to do an update on the monster storm barrelling toward the florida coast. hurricane irma expected to make landfall. the winds will go up to 150
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miles an hour. from the national hurricane center in miami, i have acting director. we want to get right to you. what's the most important information you want to convey? >> our most important concern is the storm surge hazard. we have a video of what the storm surge looks like. we're expecting five to ten feet of storm surge on the southeast coast of florida. as much of 6 to 12 feet on the coast. that's a life threatening condition. we're going to have damaging ed potentially destructive waves. >> you're talking about what people will see on land. does that include if they're not right close to the eye of the hurricane? >> nearest to the eye of the hurricane will be the strongest winds. what we're seeing in that case is very close within say 30 miles of the eye will be the category 4, maybe category 5 winds. hurricane is fairly large.
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with the forecast to the center coming across the florida peninsula, it's really the entire florida peninsula that could be affected by those winds and again our greatest concern is going to be the storm surge for the florida keys and potentially for southwest and southeast of florida coast. >> briefly, the reports that entire buildings could go down. what can you say about that? >> south florida, florida as a state has the strongest building code. category 5 can challenge any structure. at this point we have a category 4 hurricane. we think that those winds while potentially destructive to many structures will likely be not enough to cause loss of life if people are in a well fortified building particularly with shutters up on that building. >> copy. i know the national hurricane center is busy and doing paa
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this might be the top story in america on this friday evening if not for the hurricane headed towards florida. the question has been where is it headed. who is in the eye of this probe. we have news, another scoop on russia. mueller is looking to interview six former or current trump aids who worked in the white house including reince priebus and sean spicer. one of his dep and a spokesperson who works closely with jared kushner.
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there's nothing to be infeared for someone being asked for this kind of interview. this does give us clues into the kind of stuff mueller is looking at. there's some interest in reviewing the handling of firing of jim comey. and any potential obstruction issues relating to that cover story hatched for donald trump junior about his meetings with russians at trump tower. i want to bring in joyce vance. joyce, you heard me do my disclaimers and that's to be fair. the inclusion of the white house counsel and deputy is
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fascinating because he has potential for lawyer-client privilege and executive privilege but bob mueller thinks there's something to talk about. >> courts have ruled the white house counsel doesn't have an attorney-clint relationship with the president or other white house staffers. i think bob mueller is on firm ground here. he'll have the opportunity whether it has to be litigated first or not to interview the white house counsel and his deputy. both of whom are identified by the new york times as being on his list. they were present for this dramatic meeting where sally yates, then the acting attorney general of the united states came over from the justice building to visit with the white house counsel. in and of itself a rather unusual meeting to let them no there were problems with national security director michael flynn and his contacts with russians. i think it's predictable that mueller will focus in on those conversations. interesting that he's there
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already, ari. >> that's the kind of meeting that isn't a meeting because it forces the hands of the people getting the warning. if sally yates comes over and says this rises to this level, that's not a personnel opinion like i don't think this person is doing a good job. it has some legal component that she explained in her public testimony. that's the flynn piece. i want to ask you and bring in ron about the comey piece. he thought it was a dangerous thing reading from the report. he gave miller a marked up copy highlighting several sections he believed needed to be removed. i don't imagine that has to do with word choice. these are poetic decisions. he thought there was something really wrong with that letter. >> that's really the only
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conclusion you can draw from his effort to keep the president from sending this letter. we know that the president was concerned about the ongoing investigation into flynn. it's very important to note the times here. if the president wanted to fire jim comey over the way he engaged in the clinton investigation, you would have expected h imto rip that band aid off at the beginning of the investigation. not continue to court him with private dinners. the fact he waited some period of time and then fired comey while the oig, the doj office of inspector general investigation was still ongoing. the point of that being if the president waited until that investigation concluded to then fire comey, he would have had some cover. the fact they launched this
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letter in the two of those events and the white house counsel was concerned about the content makes you wonder if there wasn't something about the russia investigation in the lines of that letter. >> ron, walk us through that personnel part. the president does have tremendous authority to decide who to keep and who to fire. trump officials are right about that. you can fire someone for no reason but not for an illegal reason. >> that's right. obviously the president has broad authority to dismiss officials. he can't do it for an illegal reason. if he fired jim comey to obstruct the investigation of the russian controversies around the 2016 campaign, that would be an illegal reason for firing him. what's happening today with these six white house staffers being subject to interviews is just the start of what's going to be pardon the pun here,
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rising water in the west wing. these six people will say you have to know these other three or four people were involved and those three or four people say these other people were involved. before this was over, the list will be much larger than six and the questions are really going to go at what the president knew, what the president was involved and what he was doing when he drafted that statement on air force one that lied about donald trump junior's meeting at trump tower. there's a lot of fodder here for bob mueller and his team. >> you don't start an investigation at the top of the chart. you start at the bottom. our viewers follow politics closely. they know a lot of these names. they probably don't know mr. raffel because he's not a key figure. it's very unlikely he's brought in at the end of the line. he's brought in as the end of the line and you work your way up.
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it's fascinating to get these first clues. we'll be covering it more next week when we have more time. thank you both. >> thank you. up next, back to the top story today. we're going to look in south florida. people bracing for the impact of hurricane irma. >> i'm kind of getting anxious right now because i can't get out. i have a family to go back to. i'm just really worried. thanks for loading, sweetie.
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our coverage continues. hurricane irma continuing to barrel towards florida in what could be one of the most da devastating storms the united states has ever seen hit land. i want to go back to nbc's bill karins. you walked us through it with precise detail, the timeline earlier in the hour. what do you have for us now? >> i'm very concerned with our friends in cuba. that's been the million-dollar question, how bad will the storm be in cuba? i want to show you the visible
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satellite imagery. it goes black as the sun set, but look at the eye, really closing in on the cuba coastline. this is going to be raking the coastline of north cuba. we haven't really talked much about the effects of the storm on cuba, but they could be just as devastating, especially if we continue this westward drift. very scary and nervous times for the north coast of central cuba and all the way up through the northern portions. the hurricane center here is assuming this storm will not weaken that much over cuba. there's still a chance it could. that could be one of the saving graces for florida. we're going to assume at this point it doesn't weaken over cuba. that leads us to two things that are going to cause the most damage, the storm surge, causing billions of dollars of damage, and then the winds, which will cause billions upon billions of dollars of damage. the storm surge, the greatest concern the naples area, captiva, ft. myers, heading south toward alligator alley and everglade city. that's 12 feet of storm surge
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possible. they don't usually put the houses up higher than that on the stilts. those are the houses that could get water in them, waves in them, and be washed out and destroyed. that's why it's very important anyone throughout this coastal area listen to your emergency managers. if they're telling you to get out, you only have about 24 hours. now i made this graphic to help everyone time the worst of the winds. this will tell you when the damage will begin in the area of your interest. as we go through 8:00 a.m. saturday, winds at 50 in key largo. this will not knock power out. 8:00 p.m., the winds in marathon kick up to 80 miles per hour. key largo, 74. those are hurricane gusts. that's when we could start to get power outages and downed trees. not too bad during the daylight hours through central florida. watch what happens when we wake up sunday morning. miami starting to gust near hurricane. key largo, 180. marathon, 127. key west, 127. that's the heart of the storm. during the day on sunday, we get that possible second landfall up here around marco island towards
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ft. myers. that's my concern. you go through the eye, 130-mile-per-hour winds potentially, maybe even gusts higher than that. that's the scary part of this storm, ari. a lot of people are going to lose power. we're going to have thousands upon thousands of damaged roofs. as far as the destruction goes, you don't want to be near that eye. >> thank you very much, bill karins. we'll be back with you again. kerry sanders is out in miami beach live. kerry? >> reporter: well, there's a little bit of activity here, but mostly this is a deserted area. this is quite a view to see it quite empty as it is. the hotels have been closed. a lot of people really are from other parts of the world. i met people today who are from belgium, from germany. one couple that's here on their honeymoon. they were told by the hotels they needed to get out. some of them took ubers to the evacuation centers. that's where there's a problem.
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we have such a large evacuation under way of people who have decided to go to shelters that it turns out there are more people than there was space in the shelters. at some point today, a list of other shelters that were going to open leaked out, went opt internet. people started lining up. the lines got so long there that not everybody could get in. a lot of frustration and a lot of concern, especially for folks who have never actually been through a hurricane. the lines and the problems look like they're being worked out. 40 shelters in miami-dade county look like they will be able to accommodate. it's estimated there's anywhere between 100,000 to 500,000 people who will be looking for some sort of emergency shelter. that is unprecedented. this is like writing the book, or the new book, on how to handle a hurricane. at the same time, sheltering in place is not just something for humans. one of the big questions people often have is whether they can take their animals and their pets to shelters. yes, they can, but zoo miami, which was leveled during hurricane andrew in 1992, today
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they were moving the flamingos. those flamingos are being placed in a spot which will hopefully be safe. it was built after hurricane andrew and was built to a new standard. ari? >> we've seen a lot of different images, a lot of them harrowing. that one a little different but all of it makes you think about the tremendous risks that are out there to people, to animals, to the infrastructure, to the roads, the buildings. it's just a lot to take in. kerry sanders, thanks for your reporting. please stay safe. hurricane irma is already devastating in the caribbean as we've been reporting. deaths there. we're going live to the bahamas next. it's your daily treat. ♪ go ahead, spoil yourself. the es and es hybrid. experience amazing. hi. can you tell me about these new social security alerts i keep hearing about? sure, just sign up online.
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we are back with our hurricane irma coverage here in manhattan. nbc's rehema ellis is live in the bahamas. what can you tell us? >> reporter: i can tell you that the wind is kicking up as irma is making her way up here into the nassau area. she already touched ground in the southern bahamas. authorities say that it's so devastating there that people who were evacuated may not have much of anything to come back to. here in nassau, where i am, they're really concerned about tropical storm force winds and a storm surge they say that could
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be up to 20 feet. that's the height of a two-story building. if that happens, it could be life threatening. the airports are closed, and that's what made it impossible for a couple we spoke to from wisconsin who came here. they wanted to get out but couldn't. so they're holding on to each other to ride through the storm. ari? >> rehema ellis in the bahamas. thank you and stay safe. and thank you for watching our coverage tonight. back here on the beat 6:00 p.m. on monday. our hurricane coverage continues. "hardball" starts now. bracing for irma. this is "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington, where a little less than 40 aways from hurricane irma's landfall. she's tightened her grip on south florida, becoming, as "the miami herald" put it, a monster hurricane bearing down on miami


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