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senator. i'm not going to get into anything beyond that. >> is the hbcu conference happening, the white house portion? >> it is going forward, it is happening, it will take place here at the white house. >> last question, just for understanding, how is the president received calls from his cell phone during -- i know it sounds very trite and small but there has been a lot of controversy about how the president is being handled i guess by general kelly and you how he keeps certain people in certain people out and then you are hearing steven bannon say he hasn't been talked, and he talked to the conversation several times. you are not aware of that. it seems to be the conversation of this phone thing. can you talk about the use of the cell phone. is it during the day, after hours. >> there have been a lot of things that you have written i've seen to be controversial. that one isn't one i've seen a whole lot about. but the president has access --
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i mean he can make calls from a land line too. i'm not really sure what the question is here whether or not he made a call from a cell phone or the land line. >> the calls from the white house those calls are logged versus a cell phone, this is his personal phone, correct? >> the president -- again, i don't sit in on every call he makes. i'm telling you what i'm aware of at this point. certainly we will keep you posted as we do with numerous calls that the president makes throughout the day and the evening. >> sarah. >> sarah on tax reform the president's top adviser said -- seems unlikely. has the president appeared to back off the demand for 15%? >> the president is prepared to push for as low of a rate we can get. we are going to continue to push for in a and work with congress to get the best deal possible. >> would he accept 20%? >> again the president is focused on getting the best deal possible. we are going to continue working to make sure we get that one.
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>> can i ask you on north korea testimony president tweeted january 2nd it won't happen. north korea just stated that they are in the final stages of developing a nuclear weapon capable of hitting the united states. >> again, the president is committed to taking every step, keeping all options on the table in order to have a denuclearized korean peninsula. hunter. hunter. >> thank you. does the president believe he needs to secure funding for a border wall before daca? i also have a second quick question. >> i think it will be as mark short said and your colleague pointed to out it would be premature for us to make those determinations at this point but certainly something we want to make sure happens is that there is a wall. that's something the president is committed to but we also want comprehensive immigration preform. >> also, will the president be reading hillary clinton's book? what does he think about the
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exerptsds that have gotten out is he far? >> whether or not he is going to read hillary clinton's book i'm not sure. but i would think that he is pretty well versed on what happened. and i think it's pretty clear to all of america. i think it's sad that after hillary clinton ran one of the most negative campaigns in history and lost and the last chapter of her public life is going to be now defined by propping up book sales with false and reckless attack. i think that's a sad way for her to continue this. >> thank you sarah. i have two questions. first the treasury secretary said this morning that janet yellen is being considered for reappointment as fed chair. is that something the president is considering? is she on the short list? how close is the president to making that decision. >> when we have a personnel announcement we'll make sure everybody in the room knows. >> i wanted to ask you about what the president said about north korea earlier. he said that the u.n. security council resolution was nothing
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compared to what ultimately will have to happen. is the president considering actions including cutting off chinese banks from the u.s. financial system? >> as we said many times before, all options are on the table. that hasn't changed. the president also said that he wants every country involved to step up and do more. this was a small step in that process. and we're hoping that they will all take a greater role and a more active role in putting pressure on north korea. >> a mole ago you used the language, responsible immigration reform. a moment ago you said comprehensive immigration resporm form. >> i think the goal, responsible immigration reform making sure that we have the principles that we have laid out and i have laid out from up here. >> not necessarily comprehensive. >> responsible immigration reform. >> you talked about the deals. mark short said today one of the lessons is you can't necessarily
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rely on 50 to 52 republicans. then he went on to assume we don't feel we can get tax reform done strictly on a partisan basis. is it the belief in the white house that you are going to need democrats in the senate to get this across the finish line. >> i think it is the belief in the white house we want to have bipartisan support. the goal is to have everybody come together and help provide tax relief for americans across the board. we hope democrats want to be part of that process. they certainly should. >> do you think you need them though? i mean what mark short said is what we learned from health care reform is even though people have been talking since 2010 about doing one thing that's not necessarily what they might do in 2017. >> i think it's less about what we need than what the country deserves. the american people work hard every day. they should get to keep more of their money. that's what the president is focused on. that's what we are hoping to do, work with democrats and republicans to get that accomplished. >> do you know of any democrats that are close to supporting what the president and the big
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six -- their framework. >> i think we are in the beginning of those conversations. hopefully again a lot of those people will come on board. ayman. >> let's drill down on the idea of democrats coming across the aisle to support the president's tax reform. the question is whether there is enough of a shared vision between democrats and republicans of what tax reform ought to look like. can you give us examples of elements of the deal that the president could put into the deal that would attract the democratic votes but not alienate republicans. >> these conversations are just starting with the democrats coming to the table. as those take place we will certainly provide more information on that front. but this is just the very beginning, the first step in this process. thanks, guys we will be around the rest of the day to answer other questions if you have them. >> sarah huckabee sanders saying good-bye to the press corps after a press briefing at the white house. i'm going to talk to halle jackson will it in a moment.
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there were wide ranging questions. look at that, you saw that in the corner there, halle popped up. she's ready to go on tv. there were questions about whether the president has read hillary clinton's new book called "what happens". sarah huckabee sanders got a chuckle when she replied i think the president is well versed in what happened. we are in a place where the united nations has once again halle jackson passed another rounds of sanctions that some are describing as implemental. some are describing as very serious. we will have more discussion later on in the show. there were questions about that to sarah huckabee sanders and where the president stands vis-a-vis north korea. >> ali, yes, i think you are tossing to he moo. >> you were great, so fast. >> unk. that ninja skills. >> really good. >> let's talk about sanctions for a second.
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when you talk with someone who believes the sanctions were incremental. that probably includes the president himself baysed on his public remarks in what we call a pool spray back in the west wing, this is just a small step putting sanctions in place focusing on energy. watered down from what the united states and the trump administration wanted to see. so, yes, sanctions potentially a small step, just the beginning. the question now is what's the next step? as it has been custom for the press secretary not just sarah huckabee sanders but predating her, the line was all options are on the table essentially refusing to rule out for example, more sanctions against perhaps chinese banks that do business or that engage in business with pyongyang. not ruling out the idea of potentially more military options as well. custom is line we have long heard. i think this was notable, i asked about the assessment, if the u.s. confirmed north korea's claim that its sixth and most provocative test was in fact a
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hydrogen bomb. sanders didn't have clarity on it. and let me hit on former fbi director james comey. >> yes. >> sanders went fairly far. she referred to false testimony. we had that conversation earlier in the week. she said something along the lines if he did something that may have been illegal. we pressed her on that. does that mean the president is encouraging the d.o.j. to infact prosecute comey or look into prosecution. she said while thee largely deferred to doj she said she would expect something to be done to somebody who is known to have broketon law. then there were other questions, too. the book, like you mentioned. and a few other things, especially on tax reform, given steven mnuchin's comments earlier. christie welker asked about the 15% tax rate the president was
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push. did you see -- >> this is my area, i want the know what it was. i was switching places with katy tur. >> she put distance to that. she didn't say the president is committed to a 15% tax rate. she said he is committed to as low of a tax rate. >> they are having a big dinner, around they. >> six people, i don't know if you call that big, but certainly big. >> i live in a manhattan apartment, six people is big. >> big for you, for sure. three republicans and democrats. senators heitkamp donnaly and mansion, all from states that donald trump did very well with. and none of them signed the democratic letter on tax reform. perhaps the presidencies areas where he can work these folks into the equation. steven mnuchin and gary are over on capitol hill. the idea to encourage senators to get a move on when it comes to tax reform.
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the last time mnuchin went on the hill he was more or less engine jeered out of the room. >> when i have dinners, it can only be one republican and one democratic in my apartment. i am going to be talking to a congressman from the u.s. virgin islands. was there talk of relief about the virgin islands. we know a lot about what has been going none florida but the islands have had remarkable devastation. >> it's amazing when you look at the images. we know that the team is considering here maybe getting president trump out to the u.s. virgin islands to see some of the impact of irma firsthand. it is not clear ho how far along those plans are or whether it will come to fruition. we do know as was confirmed in this briefing that the president will visit florida on thursday. we will be looking ahead to that as well. >> halle, you and i are friends. we have a great relationship. i'm going to and you a question you weren't expecting but i want to ask you who is the guy on your left?
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all i see is his shoulder. >> it is a colleague of mine from another network who also sits in the front row next the me into is it my buddy john. say hello to john for me, i didn't realize how tall he was. halle jackson from the white house. we are just literally starting to catch our breath after days of devastation in the southeast of the united states. at this point what's left of irma as a storm hopefully is just a memory. but people in northern alabama aren't just dealing with a rainstorm. it is a shadow of the thing that left destruction in the caribbean, the keys and large parts of florida. 4 million people are without power. businesses that have been closed for days are just starting to open bag up and people who were evacuated are coming back. a large part of the keys have been extremely damaged.
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irma's damage could be $92 billion in damage just in the united states. just in the united states. i want to start this hour in the florida keys which got hit hard. 90% of the houses there are damaged. a quarter of them have been destroyed. my colleague mariana atencio happened on a helicopter earlier to get a large scale look at the devastation there. >> reporter: we are flying over the florida keys, the area that took a direct hit from hurricane irma just to show you the scope of the devastation. today we can tell you that some of the water has receded a couple of feet but it's still a long way to go for the recovery of this area. we are flying over key largo right now. we are seeing most homes completely shattered. roofs that were peeled off. this is an area again that got a direct hit from this atgoer 4 hurricane. winds surpassed 130 miles per hour. and you also got six to ten feet
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of storm surge. we are seeing that in this neighborhood. we are also seeing that kmapg in the color of the water. this is perhaps one of the most beautiful places in the entire country. today it's simply battered by this hurricane. officials here are also calling this as potential sanitary crisis. that's because 10,000 residents decided not to evacuate. 10,000 people doesn't seem like that much but when you take into account the entire population is 80,000 residents, we are talking about roughly 10% of the population that is still not accounted for, all of them not accounted for right now. we know that the navy, the military, they have been working day and night conducting search-and-rescue missions. also something that makes it incredibly challenge is is the fact that you have only one road in and one road out. again one of the most beautiful drives in the entire country. makes it incredibly hard to
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access when you have debris, road damage and when you have many roads that are also flooded. we can report also today that the monroe county facebook page is saying that some residents from key largo and frommis la mored ao from tavern yers, some of those cities, some of them will be allowed back slowly today if they show proof of id to start checking on their homes, their loved ones and family members. a hospital will be opened today to help. tourism is the keys' bread and butter. when you look at the images from above ground you can start to see houpg the recovery of getting this place back to where it was will take. months if not years. >> that's mariana atencio in a flight over the florida keys. the devastation in the florida keys is remarkable. from the air to the ground, let me show it to you from the ground. gadi schwartz is in custody joe
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key for us. the eye of the storm passed through there. storm surges as well. what's it looking like there today? >> it wasn't just storm surges. residents have been telling us about possible tornadoes in this area. we just came to this place. this is off of spanish main here. it does look like that telltale sign of tornadoes. you have got trees basically displayed in all different directions. some have fallen to the right. some have fallen to the left. then you have got damage to different homes. then you have where it skips home. then you have got utter devastation. i want to show you what i am a talking about. right over there. see that flatbed trailer was actually a mobile home. and that was on the other side of the fence. so you have got these trailers right here, these mobile homes. that one was sitting right next to it on the other side of the fence. that means whatever happened here lifted it off the ground five to six feet over that fence and put it down right there on the street. it's pretty remarkable,
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something that has been bewildering the residents around here. a lot of them right now are seeking shelter. it is the middle of the day its. it is very, very had the out here. there is no electricity, no air-conditioning. no water. there are some people going around looking for gas and looking for water wherever they can. there isn't anything open over heerm they are hoping reinforcements arrive soon. >> i didn't know this about the tornadoes but when you look at the damage, the difference between kuj joe key where you are and key west or -- custody joe key where you are and key west or key largo where you spent a lot of the time, it was so different in my mind as someone who covered a lot of different storms that some of the destruction around you looks more tornado like than it does hurricane like. >> absolutely. it's very, very odd. there are some places where -- see over here? this is a perfect example. >> yeah. >> you have got these trees and these poles that are tilted this way. over here you have got them in a
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different direction. on the other side of the street it's hard to see from where we are ott you have a roof that was ripped off in the opposite direction. it's bewildering over here to figure out what was going on with the winds. most people were hunkered inside or evacuated. >> incredible the people who stayed there. thank you for your terrific coverage of this. it's been helpful to help people in florida particularly north of there to understand what was coming and the seriousness of this storm. goddy schwartz for us in custody joe key in florida. before hurricane irma hit key west it laid waste to the islands in the caribbean. caliperry is there. tell us about it. >> barbuda took it the worst. 1800 people live here. 13-a 1300 are sheltered. 500 are sheltering in place.
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this is the before and the after. >> wow. >> it's going to take months to get that island back on its feet. next st. martin. half dutch, half french. this is the before. here comes the after. the french president is there today. they are trying to bring law and order to the northern part of that island. again we are talking about 90, 95% destruction. keep in mind, the hospitals were destroyed. the local infrastructure was destroyed. u.s. virgin eyelands was also hit very hard. you will have their representative on next. one things that are dealing with is the hospital in st. thomas was bisquely destroyed. the good news there, troops are on the way. we are talking about 5,000 troops from the army it sounds like, and 600 marines. i'm happy to hear the marines are headed in because it does look like a war zone. we were talking about this earlier as we look at the aerials from the u.s. virgin islands. waters water, water, water, needs freshwater. >> the kind you can drink.
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>> imagine trying to build a roof in the caribbean without freshwater. >> you need to bring in workers and supplies. they don't keep stockpiles of the things you need to radio build, the metal and rebar and things like that. >> teep keep in mind we are talking about a place where 70% of the local law enforcement's homes were destroyed. you had the same thing during hurricane katrina, the people you are going to rely on in times like this, they are trying to rebuild. >> thank you for keeping us on on this side of the story. we got less of a storm. but they really got it in the kibian. i want to keep up the conversation about the devastation on some of the islands with somebody who knows this story like very few people do. congresswoman stacey blastet of the u.s. virgin islands has been keeping us up to speed and joins us now via skype. representative plastic death thanks for being with us.
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you went down with the coast guard. you had a look around the virgin islands including st. thomas. tell me what you know. >> as you said, the coast guard were able to bring me from san juan to the island -- i did an overview of st. thomas, st. john, going into the bbi and landing on st. thomas. then with my staff we got into an suv and did several days of traversing through st. thomas, meeting with government officials. our emergency management agency there as well as coast guard. as you said, department of defense, navy, marines. our own local law enforcement. our national guard, custom is doing a tremendous job as well. talking with them about their work and how they were making the response. and then i went back to st. croix, which is the island i'm from. that island has now become the base camp for a lot of activities not just in the u.s. virgin islands but also offering support to our british
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counter-parts which are really close. then just yesterday i was able to go with private boats, you know, individuals, ferry companies, business owners are taking boats and scuttling back and forth between the islands. as i told you guys this morning, it looks like a flow tilla on the oceans between the islands of individuals going back and forth bringing in people, and not just taking water as you talked about which is tremendously important, diapers, generators, batteries to st. thomas and to st. john. what i saw on the ground was, as you saw, physically, a lot of devastation. the need for generator belts and generator generators, batteries, trying to get things up and running, clearing roads. but a lot of organization on the part of the local people. we have been the through hurricanes before. everyone is really pitching in and working tremendously. that's been a great help to the islands right now. that's what we are working at here on the ground. you know, i had a chance to talk
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yesterday evening with pelosi, had conversations with individuals on the republican side as well to talk about tax relief, how are the islands going to be included? how sit virgin islands going to be included in tax relief and any additional fema support. and then discussions with even larger groups. i had reach outs from people if louisiana new york city here to support as well. and even foreign governments. we have been owned by seven different countries before we were purchased by the united states. >> right. >> so speaking with them as well. >> i'm glad for global response. there is, however, the simple issue of logistics, right? i just talked with halle jackson about the fact in a the president might be making a trip in there which i'm sure will be heartening but i'm sure they are considering they don't want logistical efforts drawn away by the president's viv. at the same time we have got the army coming in, the marine troops coming in, all of those things you listed from gasoline
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to freshwater to diapers to generators, is that being coordinated by the national guard or the army or the government? is there some sense of coordination? because you don't have an easy supply chain getting into the virgin islands. >> you are right about that. the coast guard has been able to clear the water ways of sunken vessels and additional stuff. fur looking at it there is really quite a bit of coordination but there are levels of activity that are happening. the federal government is working with our local government to coordinate the efforts of those individuals. but then there is also entire private sectors that's working and coordinating and speaking with our government as well. we have virgin islanders that are living throughout the country that have now been on the phone and they are coordinating efforts to bring cargo ships down and you know checking in with our local emergency management to find out what are the supplies you need? what are the things that need to be done right on the ground
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right now? making sure that that stuff is manifested, inventoried and then distributesed. working with united way, working with the red cross, and of course working with local people. we have retired police officers that are coming back on line. working with security to ensure that there is order and rule of law that's carried out in the distribution. because people are really panicking and people have their emotions. now we are also working on the other side, which is finding families on st. croix. people are opening up their homes to ensure that young people especially are able not to have their school interrupted because it's going to take months before he even go back on line. >> yeah. >> with our school system and also trying to organize so that young people can come to the states. we have many, many families that are in the states that are willing to open up their homes. and so we are talking with them about how to get these young people up there so that school not interrupted. safe estimations, st. john, all
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of our utility system, 100%, is knocked out, is gone. our power authority is working feverishly to bring that up on line. in st. thomas, 70%. so we are really grateful that st. croix did not have the kind of devastation that the other islands did to ensure that that's kept up. >> yeah. >> and we are moving from there. but there is coordination. but you can see it from three tiers from the federal government providing support to local, and then the private sector connecting with local as well so that we can take care of what needs to be done. >> it is an awful lot of work ahead for the people of the u.s. virgin islands. congresswoman it's always a pleasure to talk. it's, theically good the see your face receipt now and it gives us a lot of hope about your fellow countrymen in the virgin islands. thank you again. we'll keep in close touch to you and we won't forget the people of the virgin islands and the rest of the caribbean in the days to come. >> thank you. coming up, lawmakers from
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both sides of the aisle are outraged out of the massive hack of credit rating firm equifax. it could affect 150 million people. one of those lawmakers demanding answers on how such a hack could have happened. wisconsin senator tammy baldwin joins me after the break. ( ♪ ) dad: molly! trash! ( ♪ ) whoo! ( ♪ ) mom: hey, molly? it's time to go! (bell ringing) class, let's turn to page 136, recessive traits skip generations. who would like to read?
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the senators want to know who knew what and when hackers may have got ten information of 143 million americans when they infiltrated the credit reporting agency. equifax says -- this is important. equifax says it knew about the leak back in july. but it didn't go public with the information until last week. 143 million of you may have had your information stolen. this is not stolen. this is not just a department store credit card. this is equifax. they have everything about you. now on top of that three executives sold nearly $2 million in shares of the company in early august. although equifax deny has the executives knew about the breach at the time of the sale. i want to bring in a senator who requested a hearing on this data breach. senator, let me tell you i have been in the business of business reporting about 25 years.
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there are certain circumstances under which executives of a company sell their stock on scheduled basis and the sale executes irrespective of anything else. they don't have any knowledge of what went on. equifax says its sectionives didn't know anything about this. i'm musing with you, senator. i find it very, very very hard to believe that information on 143 people were hacked the company knew about it but the most senior executives in the company didn't. >> i am a finding it hard to believe. what we need is facts. washington needs to step up right now on behalf of the 143 million americans whose personal identifying information may have been compromised, was hacked, we don't even know by who or how dangerous the threat is to them right now. congress needs to stand up, step up, hold hearings, and ask precisely the same sort of questions that you are asking, whether it's the possibility
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that executives at the company profited by having inside information and selling stock before this very damaging news to the company became public or all of the activities that we have been hearing about where if you have come up to the company for protection having learned that your data has been compromised, they were asking at first for people to agree not to sue. >> i get it. i did it. i pressed the button to see if i was hacked. in the fine print -- it's not related to this particular hack. but they asked me to give up a right by checking to see if they had lost my information through a hack. how is this conceivable? >> i know. it is absolutely ridiculous, these -- of course we have seen these forced arbitration clauses in so many different segtsd.
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they cause such great concern because mostly in the teeny tiny fine print, and people don't know that they are giving away their legal rights. and we are talking about a company that has -- whether it's not having sufficient cyber protection or whatever, but has seen a breach of 143 million people's permanently identifying information. and the first thing that they think of is making sure that people can't seek legal resource against them? that's not acceptable. >> but senator -- >> they have backed off, as we know. >> they have backed off. they have backed off. i don't know why companies have to be forced by legislators or the public or the journalists to not do the right thing. but you said congress should be on the house of the 14 # million people who have been hacked. in fact there are two bills in the house of representatives to weaken consumer protections and
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strengthen the protections of financial services and credit agencies. i try hard senator to try and rz what for an elected person like you the payback could possibly be in he can with aening the protections of the least among us, consumers, who are taken advantage of by financial services companies. >> absolutely. i was incredulous when i heard there was a hearing, this resolution in the house at the very time of this massive data breach was made. we have to be doing just the opposite. congress absolutely needs to step up not just through hearings. but really identifying the responsibilities a company needs to have to protect against the release of such personal identifying information, but then to inform people that it has occurred, and to protect them once it has occurred.
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>> yeah. and i'm waiting to see why we can't get that one right. senator before i let you go -- we are running out of time. i want to ask you, a number of your senators are working to advance a medicare for all bill. a different way of saying singer payer health care bill. what's your sense of where this health care bill goes given the opposition you have got on the republican side to anything that sounds like single payer health care? >> let me start by saying we also have a very short-term focus receipt now on passing bipartisan legislation to stabilize the insurance markets after the volatility we have seen during the debate this past year. we need to do that in short order, by the ends of this month, before insurance companies put out the price for their premium prices for the affordable care act for next year. that said, i have always believed that we need to do more to have universal coverage, to
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have every american covered, and that there are steps that we can take to achieve this, i hope, shared value in america that everyone should be able to afford quality coverage. there are a number of different proposals out there that would allow you to buy into medicare, to buy into medicaid. and senator sanders is tomorrow going to be introducing a medicare for all. we are mostly on a bipartisan basis really big fans of medicare. why shunt we look at expansion of that program as an added path forward? i'm all for it. >> senator, always a pleasure to talk with you. thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> senator tammy baldwin of wisconsin. this just in, the first lady tweeting she will join the president when he goes to florida later this week. the tweet reads my concern continues for all impacted by the hurricanes. we will fly to florida on thursday with potus to survey
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the damages from hurricane irma. one hard hit area was jacksonville, the area saw historic storm surges. the flood waters are fanlly receding. thousands are without power. ketdy beck is standing by for us in jacksonville. katie, this is a fascinating story. as the storm, the hurricane, started to move west away from jacksonville, the news came in that jacksonville was going to flood. and flood it did. >> reporter: indeed. as you said ali, these waters are receding. we are at high tide along the st. jone john's river. the water is just cresting, just slushing over. a much different scene from the days ahead of today where pouring was rushing over. at waters are receding. a lot of downtown jacksonville is dry now. it's the river front that folks
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have to be worried about. this is a rehab facility, an assisted living facility. her mother had to be evacuated. you couldn't have seen your mother for several days. they told you you can see her? >> they evacuated ten people from here to st. vin send's south because of their medical needs. and on saturday at 5:00 the hospital went into lockdown. and they were in lockdown until 7:00 this morning. so our family was not able to be with her like we have been for the last five months because of the lockdown. but we were able to contact her through the phone. >> was it a bit scary for you? she is 29. >> she's 92 and she's had severe medical issues for the last five months. my brother and sister and i have taken turns being with her 12 to 14 hours a day here.
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sure, i mean we were concerned. >> helpless. >> yeah. i mean, it was -- we weren't very happy about it. but that was the hospital's policy. and we just had to go by it. >> right. >> so they sent two nurses and two cnas from here with the ten people that went over there and took care of her over there. >> you are a jacksonville native. you have been here your whole life. on the scale of storm anxiety where does this one rank for you? >> i went through a lig hurricane when i was little. back then it was like a big slum better party you know, because all the neighbors were there and stuff like that. i have been through tropical storms and stuff like that. i would say this is definitely the scariest. like i said i have never seen anything like this in jacksonville. >> we are glad your mother is safe and that you can finally visit here and everyone in the facility is safe. ali, this is what people have been dealing with, separation from loved ones who are in dire
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million conditions is one of them. luckily, the waters come outwith the tide mostly headed out at this point. >> mostly head out. ? jacksonville we won't have the structural damage we have been seeing in the rhett of florida but power problems and water issues. katie in jacksonville for us. as the pieces are slowly being put together from the devastation of irma now the conversation is one of not only rebuilding but how to better prepare for future storms. for money on that i won to bring in the congresswoman who represent florida's 27th congressional district, the miami-dade area. congresswoman, good to see you. >> thank you ali, i appreciate it. >> i'm so happy that things were not as bad as we thought they might be when you and i talked a few days ago. first of all give me an update on conditions on the ground right now. >> well, we are a very resilient community. we have been through andrew and survived that. this time we were prepared. people evacuated.
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not 100%, but it was pretty good turnout for miami. no one likes to leave their homes. right now the problem is lack of gasoline and lack of electrical power. in our house we not only have that, but we also don't have running water. so once they get those basic needs out of the way, i think people's anxiety levels will level off. also, it's not back to normal yet because public schools are closed until friday at the very earliest because they are still being used as shelters. so you know, once you goet that routine of life back, i think that pattern of life is going the ease the anxiety. right now i'd say it's not the greatest mood in the community because everybody is pretty upset about power and fuel lacking. >> it does get very frustrating. you don't have the urgency of a storm bearing down on you but you have got something else. one of the other problems you
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and i talk about on friday and i talked to the mayor of miami about on friday is that those of you who live in miami-dade have in addition -- i want to show people a graph from nasa about the sea level rising from 1995 to now. it's pretty steady. it's happening. and there are have been some efforts to counter it. >> there is no way that you can look -- this is empirical evidence, nothing editorialized about it. nobody is photo shopping these images. to deny sea level rise is just crazy. i don't know to debate whether it's man made or not, of course it is, but we have got to stop developing so close to the water's edge because then we go back up to d.c. and we fight for federal funds for beach renourishment which we need because life and property depend on them. but we can keep building close to the shore and we have got to acknowledge that sea level rise is a reality.
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i don't know when everybody is going to get on board on this. but we certainly know it. i hug the coastline of south florida from miami beach, key biscayne, just beautiful coastline. gables by the sea. and we see it. you can ask them, everybody who lives there, they say yeah, this is happening. let's get some solutions for it. >> i want to ask you about something you are doing on a by part san basis with the president. you are asking the president to protect foreign nationals in the united states after hurricane irma. tell me what you mean by this. >> ali i'm so glad that you asked about this. i give credit to i good friend hastings for leading this charge. the haitian americans have been a wonderful aspect of our commune or so many years. they have had earthquakes, and you name it, one catastrophe after the other. they always get hit with hurricanes. this time has been no exception.
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last time the trump administration said this is your last tps renewal. get ready to pack your bags. it would be heartless to return these haitian americans back to their homeland. there are no jobs. there is no infrastructure. schools are closed. hospitals are closed. that would be unjust. and all the caribbean nations as well. it's not the right thing to have. we are blessed to have a die sponsora of people from krebian nations let's set them safe legally so they can work, pay taxes and most importantly give money back to their families back home because those remittances for many countries is the main source of income. incredible. let's do right by them. >> that is absolutely right. and i appreciate you and your colleagues in congress taking the time to look out for them. we are richer for the die sponsora that we have here in
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america. florida congresswoman ileana ross lateen, thanks for your time. >> thank you i appreciate it. new developments out of the supreme court regarding president trump's travel ban. the court issued a temporary order which blocks nearly 24,000 refugees from these six muslim-majority countries were entering the united states. the justices are now deliberating whether these refugees and others will be allowed in later. meanwhile, hawaii's attorney general says the ban has, quote, sewn chaos in our immigration system. here to help break down the complex series of events is the hawaii attorney general himself doug chin who always helps us out in understanding in sort of lay terms for us who are not lawyers what this new development is. so attorney general, good to see you again. >> thank you. >> tell me what this is. >> good to see you. we're set right now to place our arguments on the merits in front of the supreme court on october 10th that's going to be actually the first time that the supreme court hears arguments on whether
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or not the executive order that was promulgated by president trump is illegal and unconstitutional. so in the meantime what has been happening is that we've had a lot of litigation over how the travel ban was going to be initiated, implemented during this time while we were waiting for the supreme court to hearing the arguments. so it was broken down in two ways. one was grandparents. and the others had to do with refugees that had formal assurances. with grand parents it looks like the u.s. government has finally give up their odd and nutty argument that grandparents are not close family. >> right. >> so that looks like we are set on that. grandparents, god bless them all, they are coming into this country as they should if they have a connection to a u.s. -- someone who lives here in the u.s. as far as vetted refugees, i think you already know this, but
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the refugees with formal assurances are some of the most vetted people to come into this country. and to this day there are about 24,000 that have been blocked by the u.s. government. and our argument has always been that's not what the supreme court has asked for. u.s. supreme court said they want to hear us respond back to this argument that the u.s. government is making. we hope that they are going to be making a decision very soon because every day is important. >> october 10th is the next date in court for this? >> yes, it is. we are going to be in d.c. for that. >> we will cope in close touch with you as we have throughout the process so you can keep us up to speed about what's going on. doug chin ins thou. hawaii attorney general doug chin. back after a quick break with a check on the markets which despite hurricane irma's wrath have been breaking records this week.
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8:30? tai chi. yeah, so sounds relaxing. alright, 9:53? i usually make their lunches then, and i have a little vegan so wow, you are busy. wouldn't it be great if you had investments that worked as hard as you do? yeah. introducing essential portfolios. the automated investing solution that lets you focus on your life. i got some big economic news for you here. in 2016 we just get the numbers now from the scensus from 2016. median household income, the level of which half of all households earn more and half earn less, it hit its highest level on record, clocking in at $59,000, up 3.2% from 2015. with the rise in income we are seeing a drop in the u.s. poverty rate now to 12.7%.
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this is really important because finally nine years after the recession we have started to see wages go up, families earning more, poverty going down. that's how bad that recession was, that it took us until 2015 to see meaningful gains and then a good gain in 2016. these are numbers for 2016. it's the most recent one that we have. let me take a quick look at what the markets are looking like right now. the dow is up about 50 points as trading is wrapping up, very strong day on the markets yesterday. a good week to check your 401(k). breaking this hour the state department weighed on the latest sanctions against north korea saying that it shows the world is acting together and worried about the nuclear threat or the threat of nuclear tests. this comes after the president seemed to downplay the sanctions earlier today. >> we had a vote yesterday on sanctions. we think it's just another very
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small step, not a big deal. rex and i were just discussing, not big, i don't know if it has any impact but certainly it was nice to get a 15-0 vote. those sanctions are nothing compared to what ultimately will have to happen. >> a very strange set of statements the president just made. the sanctions are nothing compared to what will happen. but i'm going to ask somebody who actually knows about what it is the president might have meant by that, the new sanctions ban north korea from importing natural gas and cap imports of fine petroleum products and crude oil as well as ban countries from authorizing new work permits for north korean workers. i guess the question is why aren't sanctions working and the answer, i think, is mainly because of china. shipping companies backed by hong kong or chinese nationals are able to avoid tracking by swapping flags or switching
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ownership, that's what the financial times says. they have she will companies in multiple industries. since they're able to get their goods to china, false labels like made in china are slapped on them and shipped out to the rest of the world. many of these items are clothing, textiles, t-shirts, trousers and jackets and ski guard. i want to talk to the former spokesperson for both counter-terror and financial intelligence at the treasury department's, former spokesperson for the u.s. mission to the u.n. knows sanctions better than anyone. i don't know what the president was talking about, but i will say this. we do seem to be incrementalist in our sanctions approach. we're happy that there were 15 votes and everybody was involved and the chinese and russians don't seem to be working against the united states on north korean sanctions, but am i really supposed to think that limiting textile flows out of
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north korea is somewhat going to change kim jong-un's mind about what he's doing? >> let's break it apart and go backwards. >> okay. >> on that point, north korea absolutely feel the effect. textiles in particular, that's their largest economic sector. it's their strongest export. for them to have that cut off, they'll feel that. you noted that they obviously worked to evade and circumstave sanctions but at the end of the day it's supposed to make it riskier for these guys to raise money and move money. that step is going to make it more difficult. when it comes to china, all roads lead to beijing. the action that took place at the u.n. security council yesterday needs to be coupled with intense pressure by beijing on north korea to bring them to the negotiating table. >> but if we always need china to vote with the united states on these sanctions against north korea, china is never ever ever going to vote on sanctions that are going to hurt china. >> see, but these already do
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hurt china because of the oil sanctions. that's the first piece. this is only one tool in the u.s. toolbox and that gets to what i think president trump -- >> i agree with you. i think that's what he was trying to say. the problem is you never know with president trump. sometimes he talks about fire and fury and nuclear war and blib rating north korea. what he may be saying is this isn't as far as we can go with sanctions. that's probably what he was implying. >> i think that's what he was implying and i believe the next step if this round doesn't work, the next step would be u.s. unilateral sanctions against chinese financial institutions to get china's cooperation, and there's room to do that. >> and we don't need the rest of the world to do that, that's something the u.s. can do? >> right. that's something the u.s. can do on its own. but the u.n. would never do that because china would veto that. i think in terms of trump's comments, somebody told him to underplay it. >> i got to go back to the scene of the crime in terms of the hurricane. we'll continue this discussion.
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i suspect we'll have lots of opportunities to do that. for more on the devastation in the caribbean, we just got on the phone with ron mott. he is on a boat between puerto rico and saint thomas on his way to the virgin islands. what's going on, what do you see? >> we're making our way to st. thomas, probably a good 45 minutes from the island. we're traveling with the u.s. coast guard. what they're doing is bringing in extra personnel to help relieve some of their folks who have been working around the clock literally since they started going over there thursday or friday of last week. also there are tsa officials here whose main job is to get to the airport as soon as we get there this afternoon to get the screening equipment tested. they would like to try to get the airport open some time this weekend. we do know that the cruise ships, there are two cruise lines, norwegian and royal caribbean, are bringing ships in today to start ferrying people away from st. thomas.
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one ship is going to miami. i believe that should be leaving within the next hour or so, and then the royal caribbean ship is going to overnight. folks can come down and register and get on that ship tonight and that's going to be taking off for san juan, puerto rico in the morning. the devastation is clear and apparent and even worse on the less populated island of saint john. i own a condo here in saint thomas and it's remarkable to see a place that you've enjoyed for years and years and you look at the pictures and it's utterly devastation down here on this island. help is on the way. the governor is telling people to manage their expectations, don't expect things to be returned to normal any time soon. they're working little by little to bring back some of the basic necessities including power. there are limited sections of the island that have power tonight which is a good thing obviously but far more people still without power and then of course we're trying to get fema
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aid down here, it's a challenge but it is under way. what we do know, the governor did speak to the president. he mentioned on the air last night that the president told him he's looking forward to try to put together a visit some time in the next week or so. >> ron, we look forward to your reporting from there to let us know exactly how help is coming to the u.s. virgin islands. ron mott for us on his way now, about 45 minutes from st. thomas in the u.s. virgin islands. that brings this busy hour to a close. i'll see you back here at 11 eastern with stephanie rule. thank you for watching. "deadline: white house" with nicolle wallace starts now. hi, everyone. it's 4:00. the trump campaign has begun turning over documents to bob mueller's special council investigators. according to one of the president's lawyers it's going swimmingly. quote, jones day has a wonderful team handling the production, according to john dowd, one of those lawyers quoted in the "daily beast" today.


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