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is smart enough to not want this republicans to build a pass. and that's "hardball" for now, thank you for being with us. "the rachel maddow show" starts now. >> big news today. we'll find out republicans is able to kill obamacare or repeal the affordable care act. brooking estimates that'll result in 21 million americans being thrown off their health insurance. we thought we learn about that. instead of waiting for next week, the decisive moment may have happened today. this afternoon when john mccain put out this statement explaining why he will not vote for this plan.
there republican no vote is enough to kill this thing. but if many mccain is out, it looks like this thing maybe dead or almost dead. republicans still have a few more days. they have another week to try to cook something else up. it does not look good for them. we'll have more on that big news ahead tonight and what i think led to this latest failure by the republicans. here is another piece of news. individual states started put out of the blue statements about whether or not there is election infrastructure voter rules. all these started one by one making declarations as to
whether or not that happened to them this past year. we started seeing statements coming in until god bless wisconsin, the wisconsin statement finally explains what else was going on. in part, quote, "wisconsin is notified of russian hacking attempt." >> the state were free to disclose information. and some of them did. not all but some of them. homeland security knew by june that 21 states had been targeted by russian hackers during the election. they knew that and they announced that they knew in
june. they did not tell the 21 states until todayment now that the states know, not all the states are telling us the public of what happened. they both tried to ramp up what we now know from these various states today. it looks like of the states that's been told of homeland security that they got targeted by the russians. it looks like these are the states that made the information public today. we posted this form. so when more states say publicly whether the russians hit them, too. we'll add to the list. we got these alabama and colorado and iowa and oregon and pennsylvania and virginia and wisconsin. they all have put out a statement saying homeland security have notified them of russian efforts to target
infrastructure of the election last year. we have no homeland security department did not notify the states before today since they have known at least since june which states were attacked. sure, why not wait until mid september. how about a friday afternoon? probably a an afternoon time to submarine that news. as i said, it is a weird news day. president trump is in alabama right now where he's campaigning for one of the candidates in a republican senate primary. he's not campaigning for the republican candidate in a general election. he's campaigning for the republican primary. maybe it is not the thing that presidents do for their own party though. we learned new information of what's becoming of the giant slush funds of tens of millions
of dollars that's floating around the trump's administration unaccounted for since the inauguration. we had stunning reporting on that inauguration fund last night on the show and we'll share it with you tonight of what else we learn which will make you laugh out loud. the biggest news of america is something unfolding a thousand miles southeast of miami, florida. >> you know the name lovett town outside of new york city. they started selling homes right after world war ii, a few years later, there was lovett town, pennsylvania and there is one in new jersey. all these whites only suburban developments created in the middle of the 20th century by william lovett and they branded this town with this name.
whether you see it from the street level or an areal view or highly planned and cookie cutter. the northeast version of segregated american dreams. the last place called lovett town that had the name, it was not a place that was built in the northeast. it was built in 1963 in puerto ri rico. >> the last lovett town was built about a dozen mile west of the capitol of -- the house is cost 10 or $15,000. it was the same idea. it was built as the same kind of american dreams fulfill tg middle class community.
levitown remains suburbans. >> levittown was built on marsh land. they have been using the drown water to creating the levittown lake. when river started to welt and land got saturated the artificial lake over flow massively. even the worse of the storm had passed by then, the flooding trapping thousands of residents rose up after the storm passed. >> the washington post reported that not only tavarresidents th never been flooded out, they tho thought the danger was over before the flooding started
because of the worst of the storm had passed. the question there is now as it is in so many places in puerto ri rico, the question is how to get supply and phone service out of everywhere. gabe gutierrez was just west of levittown today. >> reporter: 30 miles west of san juan, crystal salvador, is desperate. the water flooded the entire floor. the local shelter has run out of food. >> we need gas and food, someone will help us. >> reporter: the town's mayor tells us at least eight people were drowned here and authorities rescued thousands trapped in water. >> it is chaos. >> reporter: new video released showing a woman and two children
being hoisted to safety after they were stranded on a capsized boat off the coast. >> rosa rode out the storm while the building crumble next to her. >> i said to myself, we have to leave the house, this is gouing to collapse. for many in puerto rico, more help can come soon enough. >> gabe gutierrez reporting there tonight. that was the mayor of san juan part puerto rico the mayor herself going house to house. that's san juan today. >> on northwestern part of the island right now. 70,000 people are currently evacuated as fast as possible tonight because of a danger of the dam there that's about to collapse. the national weather service said at 2:00 this afternoon, it was failing, 70,000 people
living downstream of that dam. the dam had begun to fisher, flash flood emergency for adam failure. dam operators reporting the dam is fail ing and causing floodin. this is an extremely dangerous situation, buses are evacuating people from the area as quickly as they can and followed by this one, all area surrounding the river evacuated now. lives are in danger. these are all capped warning from the national weather service. it raised the question immediately, how are people getting the message with power down and no phone service or internet service. how are people getting these
warnings. in the words of puerto rico secretary of state today, officials went back to basics to get people out the way of the failing down. today they started using sirens and flew over the danger area and flew over the area and signature rounding neighborhoods with loud speaker urging people to get out. we'll speak from the secretary of state from puerto rico loud. all of puerto rico people are facing unprecedented and terrifying conditions. right now when i speak, people getting a little bit of late internet connection, they are sharing videos like this. the house is under water everyone after the water receded. power is still out and may remain out for months. 100% of power outage on the island. 95% of mobile service went out.
it is a communication black hole. we do no hundreds of people have been rescued from rooftops and those rescues will continue. authorities say they're worried they'll learn more deaths in puerto rico. there is an all night curfew in effect until the conditions improved. the island is in darkness. the storm came ashore on wednesday and it is now friday night, 3.5 american citizens here in what is increasingly a dire and dangerous situation. joining us now patricia mazzei, i realize it is not easy to get
communications. >> thank you for having me rachel >> can you tell us the assessment of how bad the danger is and how much danger people are in? >> we are in some of the in land and oceanside and beach towns that got a lot of the earlier flooding. this is been a slow moving ecint where we are seeing the island and the west of the island and the water has been under life-threatening. not everybody gets water high enough to be rescued from the roof. that does not mean their lives are any less destroyed. we went to a beach town called louisa and it is a couple blocks under water. the wind peeled off their roof and came the water. now many of them are living
without a roof and muddy water. three people asking me if i am from fema because they thought i am coming to help. i had to say no and they were disappointed and they offered me their cold water of bottle which i thought it was funny given the conditions they are in. >> what are people in terms of help and response and relief efforts or organized by civilians for the government? >> right now we are only seeing in these towns, neighbors helping neighbors. san juan, the capitol has crews removing trees and picking up debris and soldiers directing traffic as of today. in land, the residents have seen no help and felt al little hopeful because there is helicopter flying over their accounts. they think that people know that
they are flooded and they hope that help will arrive soon but one grocery store in louisa was opened today and the owner ordered water two weeks ago before hurricane irma and he still have not got it. people stand out the door for bread and that's all he got. everything that's old stuff and not perishable but it is a cashing economy right now. so it is one compounding problem after another. >> what you are talking about is the brink of despair. you know just because they are not the ones that's getting evacuated in urgent circumstances does not mean tha they're not going to be in
trouble for some time. water will take months to recede based on what they see in previous dams and folks that have cars, don't have usable cars anymore. they don't have to worry about gas shortage because they cannot get around. patricia mazzei, thank you. >> we will. >> secretary marin joins us as the storm was coming ashore. i asked you to keep us a surprise, i am glad you are able to be back with us tonight, thank you for your time. >> welcome, welcome. it is important we keep you notified of what's happening. >> dramatic report that we heard today and warnings that we got of the national service of the
dam of the river and the urgent need to evacuate 70,000 people downstream from the dam. what's the latest of the situation, sir? >> well, we are doing our fly over. together with structural engineers and what happens to be any minute danger as to a structural damage to one of their largest in the island. we are trying to make them aware and get them to safer ground and it is around 80,000 citizens that could be affected of the dam of the water pressure because of the rate. in terms of the 80,000 people. how successful have the
evacuation effects been that far. we don't have an exact precipitation of the catastrophic failure of that dam. i know it is difficult to reach the people. what's the scale of the evacuation thus far. >> we are using rudimentary sirens and helicopters and social media and probably this program being watched and it is a way to advise people and previous to the storm as to the predictions of natural well of service to the amount of water. >> it was followed by monumental rain and we rescue from rooftops of 3,300 people already.
with the issue of the damage that's one very delicate one. as we speak, we are working with the communities to make sure we don't lose anymore lives. it is been six casualties today and we want to keep that number, we don't want to increase anymore casualties because of maria. >> mr. secretary, we spoke with a reporter and we heard from other reporters, it seems like interior puerto rico and in the interior of the islands, people have not had any help and there is been rescue efforts of rooftops but there is not been supplies there and people have not been getting water or getting offer of evacuations and people in the island felt like it is neighbors helping neighbors. do you expect that to i am
proo improve soon? >> the mayor of each municipality is leaving the emergency management of search and rescue, we are in touch with all mayors for tomorrow morning at 11:00 a.m. i will be in the meeting with all mayors making sure that fema supply and satellite telephone and any additional aid as to bottles of water as to first aid or any equipment that is needed. we are all making sure in the coast and in the hills that every puerto rican gets proper attention. certainly power is an issue and we have add because of irma initially and complaints of the power returning to old households, we were 90%
unrecovery and now we are back to ground zeros in terms of getting off again and in terms of energy and water is coming back and we'll make sure. it is a tough recovery but we are resilience and we'll make sure every puerto ricans get taking care of. >> luis rivera marin, thank you for helping us understand what's going through. please do keep us surprise in the days ahead. >> thank you. >> any donations are welcome and with your prayers. >> thank you. we are keeping an eye of that dam of the largest dam in puerto rico that officials say is failing. 80,000 people living from the stream. all of the water of that lake will be added to the downstream
flooding. evacuations are under way and tens of thousands of people, this is a very serious situation tonight in puerto rico, stay with us. oh, you brought butch. yeah! (butch growls at man) he's looking at me right now, isn't he? yup. (butch barks at man) butch is like an old soul that just hates my guts. (laughs) (vo) you can never have too many faithful companions. introducing the all-new crosstrek. love is out there. find it in a subaru crosstrek. he's on his way to work in alaska. this is john. he's on his way to work in new mexico. willie and john both work for us, a business that employs over 90,000 people in the u.s. alone. we are the coca-cola company, and we make much more than our name suggests.
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ing republicans had 50 seats in the white house. >> that will incredible rich, diversity of white men in suits, celebrating that they got their healthcare bill, one-third of the way through the legislative process. but, despite the rainbow fest s >> the next go round was in june. the republican control senate wrote their own bill to kill obamacare. that one did not have enough support to entertain the idea of trying to bring it into the floor. they scrapped it and came up with another one. in july, what they call a straight repeal of the affordable care act. they got that one all the way to the floor of the senate.
then john mccain made his entrance and gave his big thumbs up. for seven years republicans have been saying they need to be in control of washington so they can kill obamacare, it is the one thing that they have one insisted, they would instantly do. but, they have failed over and over again at trying to do it. republicans have held the white house and the senate and a large majority of the white house. they have passed zero legislation of any kind. they have not passed a single major bill and not one. i think that's in part because they assumed they pass this healthcare thing first. they assume that killing obamacare would be the low hanging fruit because everything else they figure out there after. this fruit is not getting picked
and it keeps on bugging them in the head. this was in colorado today. hundreds of people pouring in the streets of denver against the republican healthcare bill. you can hear them chanting healthcare is a human right and fight, fight, fight. a deep bred texas, this guy stood on a busy highway overpass today with a sign, if you squint, you can read it. repeal and replace senator ted cruz. given his support of repealing obamacare. in roanoke, virginia, they brought a clown and they paraded cup cakes and balloons into his
office for a happy birthday celebration and donating the rest to the hospital. kansas city, missouri, senator moran talks about how they can lose here health insurance and staffers took note on what they said. the best and sharpest reason why republicans have not been able to do the one thing they said they do. the best and sharpest reasons why obamacare, affordable care act has not been killed yet is that people like this mom decided they would change their own lives around to try to relentlessly to save it. >> i have been here before to talk about his healthcare and needs. i am not sure why we are asking mothers to justify, why is it important to keep their children alive. why do i keep oncoming here to
ask senator moor moran to prote son's life. having a child of a disability is stressful enough but we push on and we live our lives like anybody else. we goes to school and we are everywhere in the community and we are proud of him and we have -- i have no regrets about his life and who he is. but what makes it possible is healthcare. what makes it possible is medicaid the cut for this bill will devastate us and families around this country. >> that kind of personal and local and beating there is showing up. it is a big part of why republicans have failed over and over again to erase obamacare. that's what staffers had been listening to and that's what staffers have been listening to every event they do.
the belt way does not report it on that way. you can see it around the country. over and over again. you know what is different of the new republican effect is that this one comes with a deadli deadline, the republicans basically have to pass this thing by next saturday if they are going to. the prospect is hanging by a thread with the news that john mccain is voting no. right now john mccain got two defecate no vote. susan collins saying she voted no and lisa murkowski voted no. if they lose one nmore vote, ths bill is toast. we have seen them lose on this before and we know why. they got a few more days to pull it off. watch this space.
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it was due to take place in july. it involves more than dozens of country. this is nato country and the ukrainian military is doing a joint exercise together. the marines touched down at dawn at may 27th. what they were planning to do there was creating facilities that could be used during the exercise, they were planning to do some goodwill stuff and bu d building playplaygrounds. they were there to get stuff ready and build stuff and make noise with the locals. that's why they did not expect the welcome that they got. here is how lieutenant colonel tom doman described. >> we had rocks thrown at us, we are just trying to get to our base. the u.s. marines were attacked by thousands of angry protesters and what everybody thought was
this sleepily resort city in cre crimea. the marines were unable to move and they did get to where they could hunker down but they could not get to their supplies and base and supply ship that had their port. they were hunkered down and they were dealing with the giant protest around them. colonel bill black he jokingly calling it black cocktails. in the dead of night, they snuck out and boarded a jet and flew home. they did not complete their mission. they ended up cancelling their entire military exercise. they called it off and it was quite an international incident.
george w. bush ended up cancelling his plane to crew ukraine. th ukraine. that happened in 2006. we know the anti-american protests, they were reportedly orchestrated by the prorussia political party of ukraine which is called the party of regence. that campaign was paying paul manafort millions of dollars. ukrainian officials and some former u.s. diplomats that i was speaking to are convinced and possibly help plan the anti-american protests that resulted in the attack on those u.s. marines. >> that was 2006.
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opposed by the u.s. they'll vote on monday whether or not they'll become an independent country. >> it is something that the united states, well, at least most of our allies opposed. ever since we went into iraq of false pretenses of weapons, it has been a central part of u.s. policy. it is the central part of u.s. policy of the united states trying to show up the iraqis government and keep the nation of iraq intact under a single national government. but, we learned this week the fbi conducted that no-knock raid at his house. which must have been particularly fun today when rex tillerson met with the iraqis
minister, please lets not talk about the trump campaign chairman who's working to break a third of your country. the trump campaign chairman working against u.s. interest for money is a new and increasingly present idea in terms of how we understand our world in the trump area. here is one small, weird thing of this new news about him working. >> mr. manafort himself may return to the region in the coming days for the vote. >> manafort is working the kurds to break up iraq. wait, he's going to go there for the vote? meaning he's flying there now in does he have a return ticket? >> given all the heat that paul manafort is under of the special council and the trump administration going all this
way to distance themselves from him and it looks like he's leaving the country. he's supporting against the foreign policy of the united states. we reached out for manafort's spokesperson today who told us he's not going to answer our question. he did insist to us that it is perfectly legal to work over seas. if he's leaving the country, are we sure he's coming back? is anybody checking on that? jonesing joining us now is adam winestein and now interestingly as we are learning more, mr. winestein thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> you reported with a lot of
good documentation on manafort's connection to those u.s. marines coming under attack by angry mobs back in 2006. do you have any sense of why it is that u.s. officials that spoke to you and ukraine people that spoke to others, why do people believe that manafort maybe the effort that led to those attacks. >> it should be said at this point beyond what those officials and source havs have to us and reported to other folks in the media, this is a substantial case and all of damming one. we know he was advising them to stoke the flames of russian nationalism in crimea and eastern ukraine where there is a large russian population. we know after that, all of this stuff went down and we know
those officials particularly u.s. officials, this is something you can see and the wikileaks releases of state department cables were highly confident that the party of regions was responsible for organizing these protests in order to get an electoral advantage. for whatever reasons, it happens to dub tail with his council. >> in terms of accountability for that sort of thing, we know about the logan act of this never prosecuted ancient american law that prohibits american regular civilians private citizens from acting to under mind u.s. policy at broad. is there anything else that prohibits people from regular americans from working against u.s. interests and service members abroad? >> it is subjective and it is a judgment call. when it come to direct threats of the u.s. military, of course, there is a lot of regulations
that cover that and rules of engagement depending on what happens and what the circumstances is. beyond that, there is sort of this wilderness territory and there is been for a long time that's plumped by republicans and democrats of counseling foreign governments on their political strategies and the fine line between where that is just merely problematic for money reason and where that is becomes a real problem u.s. policy. that's a line that's kind of subjective in a lot of places and i think we are going to be asking a lot of those questions about a lot of the things that manafort have done and not just ukraine. >> your mission and i know your personal background giving you insights of the next thing i am going to sask you. is there anger and u.s. veterans
of national security of personal dimensions in terms of what he did and whether he was voinvolv in dangeri endangering americans. >> yes, those that i spoke to and those of our staffs, we have our concerns. it is general sort of we are not sure of what to make of trump or the people that he signature signatursignature signature -- surrounds himself with. these sorts of stories when they arrive, they raise the issue of, for god's sake, manafort's mentor was baker, he worked for ronald reagan. this is a man what believes in strong policy of the united states and supports the troops. we don't know if he's involved in these riots or not.
for him to even be in the same room with some of the same people and collecting a check from them. you got to ask yourself like where does that guy's loyalty >> really good reporter. thank you for being here. appreciate your time tonight. we have much more ahead tonight. stay with us. (vo) when i brought jake home, i wanted him to eat healthy. so i feed jake purina cat chow naturals indoor, a nutritious formula with no artificial flavors.
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question. daytime, nighttime, washing dishes, clicking stupid stuff on instagram. one question. at home this weekend and unplug standing on a river bank, trying to catch a fish still thinking about this one thing. where's all that money going? could the trump presidential inaugural committee which raised what, plea times, four times as much money as they needed to spend for the actual inauguration this year. could that same inaugural committee use the leftovers, use the unaccounted for tens of millions of dollars they have leftover, could they use that to pay for other stuff now? like, maybe stuff they didn't want to talk about paying for like legal defenses for the russia scandal. i put that question last night to craig holeman. could they pay the legal bills for campaign officials for more administration officials? legally, do you think that's possible that they could do that?
>> yes. they can do that. the only rule when it comes to inaugural funds is that the source of the funds has to be disclosed after the inauguration. but how that money gets spent is anyone's guess. no rules, no regulations. it can -- quite frankly, it can go into the pocket of donald trump if he chose to do so. >> wow. >> yes. it's a wild west area. >> wild west area. that was what we heard from craig holman last night who knows as much about american campaign finance as anyone on earth. and even though i was surprised enough to respond with just, wow, which you're not supposed to do on tv, it really does appear, no surprise, he's -- he's right. what he said last night is right. it shocked me hearing it but we talked to two different experts on this stuff today who told us, yeah, he is right. told us the same thing. there really is very little law about how an inauguration
committee can spend any money left over after the shindigs. i wonder if that's why they raised triple and quadruple the amount of money they did. i mean the committee does have to fill out this one form three months later disclosing who gave more than $200, how much they gave and they have to report how much they raised overall. we have seen that. that's it. that's the end of the required reporting ever. that's how we know they raised $107 million. what they do with it is the question. after they file that one thing, anything that can be considered to fit with the mission of celebrating the president's victory, anything they want to spend it on, go for it. no disclosure. that's pretty much the wild west. saddle up. write checks to lawyers if you want for president or his family or anybody else. go ahead. the sheriff is drunk and passed out under a shade tree. do whatever you need to do. spend it! i do have one update to report on this tonight, though.
for the record, we've still got an overall no comment from the inaugural fund as to whether or not they -- the inauguration money will be used to pay russia legal fees or whether it has been used to pay russia legal fees. we asked them that and they said no comment. but i can report that vice president mike pence for one is not using inauguration funds to pay for his legal defense. mike pence does have high legal reputation on russia know how he's paying for the legal representation. we ghoe that because his lawyer returns our calls and is very nice. his very nice lawyer tells us that the vice president is not using inauguration funds. he also says the vice president is not using trump re-election campaign money and the vice president is not using money from the rnc and the vice president is not using money from his own pac. but he is somehow paying his lawyer. right? we're checking now to see if anybody mike pence is selling his plasma or, cleaning out the garage on craigslist. i don't know.
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that does it for us tonight. msnbc live is next. good morning, everyone. i'm in new york at msnbc world head quarter. it's 7:00 in the east on day 247 of the trump administration. president trump visits alabama and talks about the importance of loyalty while taking aim at members of his own party. ten months after the election, the federal government tells 21 states their voting system were targeted. a dam fails in puerto rico after hurricane maria. now most of the island is under water and under pressure to get help. but first we begin with breaking news out of north korea. experts and military officials are trying