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this sunday, race, free speech and patriotism. trump takes on nfl players that take a knee in the national anthem. >> wouldn't you love to see one of these nfl owners, when somebody disrespects our flag to say get that son of a bitch off of the field right now, he's fired. he's fired! >> dozens respond with anger and disappointment. >> this guy that we put in charge has tried to divide us once again. >> and the golden state warriors cancel their white house trip. i'll talk to mike at nbc sports. plus, repeal and replace or rinse and repeat? once again, republicans trying to get rid of obama care. >> tremendous at work from
republicans. certainly 47 or 48 senators. >> and once again there may be just enough republican opposition to kill the effort. >> i obviously have very serious reservations about the bill. >> are you ready to support it? >> nope. >> my guest this morning is senator rand paul of kentucky who says he is a no for now, and mark short. and can chuck and nancy do business with president trump, or were their immigration talks a one-time only deal. i'll ask nancy pelosi if she trusts the president. joining me is rich lowry high pressure eliana johnson, stephen henderson, and former obama deputy campaign manager stephanie cutter. welcome to sunday, it's "meet the press."
announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, celebrating its 70th year. this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. good sunday morning. there are two big stories we're watching this morning, but first is president trump's attack on nfl players that refuse to stand for the national anthem. it began friday night with a speech in alabama with mr. trump saying he wishes an nfl owner would say the following -- >> get that son of a bitch off the field right now. he is fired. he is fired! >> countless people have pressed back, steph curry and the golden state warriors said they would not come to the white house, and lebron james weighed in calling the president a bum. more on that back and forth coming up. the other big story here in washington is the graham/cassidy health care bill. the republicans last chance,
this time we really, really, mean it, effort to once and for all end obamacare. once again it is john mccain that came into save or ruin the day depending on your point of view. eight weeks ago, mccain gave his now famous middle of the night thumbs down to a previous repeal and replace plan. this time it came in a more dramatic fashion. >> i cannot in good conscientious vote for the graham-cassidy bill. i think we can work together with the democrats and republicans and we have not tried. the bill is unpopular with voters and it is opposed by a who is who of medical organizations. with democrats united, 48 no votes. with two republicans already opposed and it will take just one more republican vote to kill the bill, but president trump is not giving up. the president went after mccain as the latest repeal effort appears on the edge of failure yet again. >> it's tougher without mccain. i'll be honest, it's a little
tougher. >> even president trump is acknowledging the latest republican effort to dismantle obama care is very likely dead >> we're going back. we're a boxer, you get knocked down, get up, knocked down, get up. >> in alabama on friday night, the president lashed out at senator john mccain, hours after mccain announced his opposition to the bill, backed by republican senators lindsey graham and bill cassidy. >> john mccain's list. his last campaign was z all about repeal and replace. repeal and replace. he decided to do something different, that's fine. >> saturday, the president continued to attack mccain tweeting john mccain never had any intention of voting for this bill, which his governor loves. he campaigned on repeal and replace, let arizona down. just days ago, president trump was optimistic about getting legislative points on the board. >> tremendous support from republicans.
certainly we're at 47 or 48 senators already. a lot of others looking at it very positively. >> but, by friday rushing it through to take advantage of a deadline to pass a bill with just 50 votes looked doomed. with mcclain and rand paul declared noes and more senators signaling they were not ready to support the bill. >> i have very serious reservations about the bill. >> are you ready to support it? >> nope. >> the bill attracted opposition from all corners of the health care industry as well as from comedian jimmy kimmel who bill cassidy hoped to win over. >> this guy, bill cassidy, just lived right to my face. coverage for all, no. it will take about 30 million americans off of insurance. pre-existing conditions, nope. >> realizing that repeal and replace is doomed, the president turned his base's attention to
other targets lashing out at nfl players that protest in the national anthem. >> wouldn't you love to see one of these nfl owners, when someone disrespects our flag, get that son of a bitch off of the field right now, he is fired. he's fired! >> nba star lebron james weighed in calling the president a bum. >> we know how much sports brings us together. the passion, the love, the care, the friendships and everything that it creates. for him to try to use this platform to divide us even more is not something i can stand for or be quiet about. >> joining me now is republican senator rand paul of kentucky, he said he is a no vote on the graham/cassidy bill. welcome back to "meet the press. >> good morning, thanks for having me. >> i want to start with the president didn't just single out
john mccain, but you. let me play it. >> rand paul voted twice, yes. okay? he was very good. and i have not given up on him. i think he may come around, okay? >> all right, senator, in the president's words, are you going to come around? >> i have always been a yes for repeal, but the bill unfortunately, the graham/cassidy bill keeps most of the obamacare spending, almost all of it and just reshuffling it and block grants it to the states. i don't think block granting it makes it go away, it just makes the money you're spending still in obama care. reshuffle it, take the money from democrat states and giving it to republican states. it sets up a food fight over the formula. what happens when the democrats win? they are going to try to claw back that money. this is a bad idea, not repeal.
however, all that being said, if they narrow the focus to all the things we agree on, expanding health savings account, giving more freedom through waivers, slowing down the rate of growth of an outrageous entitlement spending, sure, i would be for that, but just not for this block granding concept because it is affirmative that i have agreed to keep obama care. >> if you can't accept the block grant concept, then you will never support this bill. is that fair to say? that's the centerpiece of the bill. >> they could remove it and then we could vote on what we all agree on. >> wasn't that skinny repeal? >> i think there is more in this bill than skinny repeal, but i started my political career campaigning against obama care. i went to rally after rally saying that we would repeal it. i can't in good conscience agree
to keep it. once we do, the republican name is on health care. it won't work. we'll have republicans absorb the blame for a terrible health care system. >> so if block grant is in there, you're a no. there is no room for you to move? >> i would block grant at preobama levels. if you want to look at 2009 say do you want to block grant medicaid, i would say say yes. after you have doubled the spending on the entitlement programs, we have a $700 trillion deficit this year. we can't keep piling on money. we have to have some that are for repealing obamacare. >> you probably heard the speculation, but the national review put it this way about you. there has been widespread speculation that paul is blaing a game on obamacare. he does not wish to really see major changes to it and he will find libertarian sounding problems with the bill.
the implication that you don't really want to change the kentucky system. there's a lot of people in kentucky that like the system, but you can't get caught saying that. >> i think what that is is a personal insult to my character. coming from the pro-war national review, i don't doubt they would say that. this is neocons that don't like libertarians. they insult me and say it is a charade. most people that follow me know there has not been a more consistent voice for repealing obama care. i put forth replacement ideas. right now i'm still working with the president on letting people buy across state lines in groups, health care associations and the president assured me that is coming by executive action in the next couple weeks. he believes he can do this. the secretary of labor believes he can do this, and it will get
millions of peek access to inexpensive insurance. i keep working for free market solutions but not for blockgranting obama care, calling it a day, saying we're keeping it but we're going to divy it up. >> i have to ask you your reaction. there's been a lot of back and forth between the president and the leadership in north korea, the rhetoric has been, shall we say, not hi, it's been a little low. the president tweeting kim jong-un of north korea who is a madman who doesn't mind starving his people will be tested like never before. if he echoes threats of rocketman, he won't be around much longer. then you have the leader of north korea call out him. are you concerned we're going down a road we can't pull back from? >> yeah, i think there is a problem. if i were going to be sending messages to north korea. i would say we don't plan on invading, we don't plan on regime change, or occupying north korea. we don't plan on being the one
to have an offensive military strike for any reason. i would also say there is no good military option for us, but also for them, and they need to realize that in no uncertain terms, that there is no option for them to use military weapons. the results would be catastrophic for them. the results would be catastrophic for everyone on the korean peninsula. i hope that we can ratchet down the rhetoric, but i'm still a believer that china can be coaxed into this. one thing i have offered that no one else has, i would say to north korea, if you will dismantle your nuclear weapons, i would invite chin to be a part of the international force to help keep the peace in there and that will help them know that we will not come in here. the problem started with barack obama bombing libya that sent a terrible message to north korea. >> you brought up your
libertarian ideology. i'm curious, what do you make of what many nfl players have been doing in their protests and the president's criticism of them. appropriate? >> you know, i have been outspoken saying there is racial injustice that comes from the war on drugs. there's an impact on minorities in our country, we should speak out about that and do something about that. i have been outspoken and unhappy that we fight wars in undeclared lands. if you ask me if i'm proud of our country, yes. am i proud, yes. do i think america is the best place to live? my reaction would be that i don't hesitate to criticize polly, but i stands and say the pledge. and i think that people should. that would be my advice. if a kid asked me, still complain, have your focus, but i think this is the greatest country on the planet, and we
need to be proud of our country and, at the same time, make it a better place. >> so you think it was appropriate that the president criticized these players that do this? >> i think people have the right to protest. i understand their protests and join some of the things they're unhappy with, personally i stand and say the pledge and i think that is the better way to do it. take your complaint in a different venue. >> i understand that, but you didn't address my question. >> if i was the president i would probably not get involved in this. the thing is, i think that the nfl makes money off their fans and the one thing you could hear from president trump saying that the crowd is tens of thousands of people. they don't understand disrespecting the flag or the country. i can stand up in my state and have real serious complaints about fighting an unconstitutional war in a
foreign land, but at the same time show that i'm very hopeful and patriotic. and i think you can do both at the same time. >> senator paul, thank you i will leave it there. >> i spoke with mark short this morning, and started by asking him what president is trying to accomplish with his attacks on colin kaepernick and other nfl players. >> chuck, i think it's simple. the reality is there are coaches, high school coaches across america punished for leading their players in prayer. yet, when an nfl player takes a knee, that player is presumed to be a martyr for a social cause. there are ways to express it but there are generations of americans that fought and died for the freedoms that we enji. and i think the president is saying yeah, the players have a first amendment right but nfl owners have a right. these players represent their teams and if the owners want to get rid of them, they should.
>> what does the president think about a vast majority of owners have come out and think he created more divisiveness, not less. >> i think the president is standing with vast majority of people who think our flag should be respected. >> why did he bring it up then. is it because two hours earlier, he found out that john mccain was voting no on health care? >> i think the president has felt this way for awhile and friday night he expressed it, i don't think it has anything to do with the health care vote coming up. >> i want to ask you something in the wall street journal poll having to do with race relations. it was the one thing that unified the country. 26% thought they were good. 70% thought race relations were bad in america. this is across party lines, across the spectrum. does the president have a plan
try to play a role in this? >> i think he has a role, but it is also important to note that we had an historic election in 2008, electing the first african-american president. it didn't improve under him either. >> does picking fights on twitter with steph curry getting in back and forths, does it help it? >> steph curry is an amazing story, he is an ion for a lot of young children. my middle schooler idolizes him he has his jersey and wears it often. it is a great story of a guy who was overlooked by a basketball program. ended up in davison and the best basketball player in the nba. he has an amazing shot. what is umpt is when they politicize an invitation to come to the white house.
it's not necessary to make this into a political argument. he is trying to invite them to acknowledge their terrific season and steph curry is amazing athlete. why they chose to politicize it is unfortunate. >> you were hoping the warriors would take the high road, why not the president? >> i think the warriors were the ones that first went out and began criticizing the president. >> does who -- two wrongs make a right? >> the white house is special. if they don't want to come to the white house, the president says don't come. >> let's move to health care. are the votes going to happen? if the votes are there, is this the only way for the vote to happen or make sure it happens regardless of whether he has the 50 >> we're planning to have the vote, we think it will probably be wednesday. >> do you believe you will get the votes and who is in place in do you think you request get -- think you can get rand paul? >> let's step back and look at
this. in the last several years, obamacare imploded. people are hurting. there was promising if you like your insurance you can keep it. over 45% of counties across america, over 1400 counties have only one insurer left. there is no competition if is a monopoly. you were promised your premiums would decrease. how has that worked for americans? is there anyone that can say their premiums have decreased? alaska 203% up in four years. arizona, 109% -- >> you laid the case for why changes need made, but this change, basically every medical group you can think came out this morning with a letter and they write this. we agree the political result in dramatic cuts to medicate, changing the what i that states provide coverage. this means millions of patients will lose their coverage and go without much needed care. the concern is the change in how
medicaid is given out in this country. is this the time to do that? >> medicaid is going to go broke. it cannot continue. it does not cut medicaid. it decreases the growth. all the groups you listed, chuck, they decided they would climb in bed with the obama administration to pass it. you know why? it mandated everybody have insurance. everyone is forced to buy insurance. so if you want it or not, you're forced to buy insurance or if you're a corporation you're forced to buy insurance. the american people are tired of special interests deciding what the vote is going to be in washington, d.c. >> shouldn't there be some pause that there is not a single medical health care group that supports the bill. >> there are millions of americans that will benefit, we think every state will benefit, you know why? because governors will be given the opportunity to allocate the
program that makes the most sense for their constituents and residents. this is long overdue. taking something where the previous administration where they thought a utopian idea in washington, d.c., would know best how to distribe ute across america. let's allow the states to divide the program that is best for it's people. >> do you accept the analysis that pre-existing conditions are not going to be protected? because these states aren't going to be made to do it by the federal government. >> they are protected in this legislation. pre-existing conditions are protected. it does not change the legislation that obama had in obama care. it leaves that clause the same. >> and you believe that states will abide by this, nothing in here legally that says states have to. >> there is nothing that changes it. there is nothing that changes the previous legislation. >> it says in there there is nothing that protects that person from the state. you're assuming the state will do it from the goodness of their
heart. there is no legal remedy. >> there is nothing that takes away pre-existing condition coverage. >> the president said he may have made a mistake in getting involved in the alabama primary. he said it in the rally itself for one of the candidates, does the president regret it? >> no, chuck. the president has supported luther strange from the start. the president won all four special elections he has been involved in this fall. we're confident he will win again on tuesday night. >> if he loses is it still a win? >> the republicans will still hold the seat. >> is it still a win for the president? >> i think that the way will -- it will depend on what roy moore does. we think either way, republicans will hold the street. luther strange has been a loyal ally of the president. >> we'll leave it there. >> thank you have having me on. >> thank you for coming on.
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for only $34.90 more per month. call today. comcast business. built for business. >> welcome back. panel is here. stephen hamilton, johnson, political reporter for politico, former obama, stephanie cutter is here along with rich lowry. i will begin with you, but i want to show you a few things here. the president's attack of players taking a knee. several owners made statements. they supported their fellow players was a full-time job of our staff, and also mark cuban who has straddled politics a little bit. he was at the global citizen festival yesterday in central
park. here is what he said about the controversy. >> if the president is going to say something condemning a person or an industry, a sport, then he has to be able to take the blow back that will come back. lebron, steph, any athlete. it's an open door now. they have every right for the same reasons to say whatever is on their mind. now they have to see if he can take it. >> you and i were texting. you said to me, the locker rooms are pretty emotional. that was before noon. >> right. >> how emotional are they now? >> i think the players that gather saturday night to get ready on sunday, they had conversations. buffalo and seattle for sure. ownership was involved. pete carroll said it ended with "i stand with my players." i think you will see more of a collective show. some form of protest, not necessarily protest whag the
initial, beginning of this was with colin kaepernick, but the president's pointing to the players. >> there is a lot on conspiracy theories that the owners blocked kaepernick. yet, all of a sudden, it feels that the president oddly united the players and owners today. the number of team that is did speak out, we have been looking at the six owners, none of them spoke out until this morning about bob craft has united players. >> and he is wind of the most prominent voices in the league. he is a friend of trump. for him to come out as strongly as he did and some of the statements did not include the president's name. some stood by the commissioner. when craft did, that was an eye opener to me this morning. >> the green bay packers is speaking for a public entity. i thought that was the most
surprising until craft. you had an interesting tweet, rich lowry. a typical trump move, he takes something to 11, and a liberal media blow out. this has been bigger blowback, i think. i didn't think bob craft would be denouncing him on sunday morning. >> the president should not be musing aloud for people being fired for acts of free expression. as a political matter, if this is a kneeling versus not kneeling debate, president trump will win that all day long. this is one of the most flag soaks countries in the world. protest movements always do themselves a favor when they embrace an appropriate our national symbols rather than disrespecting them. >> this is a good political wedge even if it is more divisive? >> i think it is if he is speaking to the very small segment of the country who cares about this. i think what you will see today when football kicks off, a big segment of the country disagrees
with him, including what you were talking about, players and owners uniting. they have a deeper reach into the communities than donald trump does, and he just ignited a cultural war that he may not be able to win. >> the white house thinks this is a good political fight. they were not happy when they found out our format were going to be changed. they weren't unhappy. >> i think the white house understands that they do see it as a kneeling versus not kneeling issue. not a sports star versus the president issue. the president has a keen understanding, if he understands one thing it's what cultural flash points in this country are. he has an ability to stick his finger in. after he picked a fight with the pope -- can't be surprised. >> we all said, oh, mccain, that will hurt him. the pope -- >> you can't be surprised by anything. he does have a way of taking it to the extreme in such a way by suggesting these people should
be fired that ignite as blowback and makes it difficult for people to stand with him. the truth is the majority of americans, i think 54%, do object to players not standing for the national anthem. >> stephen, we put together a list of president trump and racial controversies. he led the birther movement. mexican immigrants, called them rapists. the border wall, the muslim ban, the khan family, both sides of charlottesville, went after colin kaepernick, uninvited steph curry. some say there is a pattern. >> there is a patter, i think it is clear, the annoyance on the part of african-americans and people that want more racial justice is the apologists. they argue whether this is a president who supports institutions of white supremacy. look at what he said friday night in alabama and how
enthusiastic he said it, that these people should be fired. contrast that with what he said after he saw white men with torches march charlottesville. there are lots of fine people among those marchers he said. put it into the policy context. this is a president whose attorney general has said, you know, we are going to back off these consent agreements with police departments who are causing the very problem that people like colin kaepernick is protesting. you know, how can we continue to have an argument about whether or not this is a president who is pushing the idea of white supremacy. >> the race conversation is never comfortable in america, in sports it is more comfortable. the locker room unites people of of all races and color. >> the torn acl knows know race. >> they all come together, so locker rooms come together,
that's what you'll see today. i think you're going to see teams come together in support. maybe not saying we would also kneel with you, but maybe we'll put an arm on you and support you. >> i think that is what you will see today. >> i think that is the question. regardless of whatever poll you want to point of of whether or not people think nfl players should stand during the anthem, they probably also agree with "it's their right to do what they want." no one should take it away from them, and that united the nfl today. donald trump is saying -- they should be fired. >> he is not randomly attacking the players, it is because they're kneeling during the national anthem, but the anthem is not a white supremacist symbol. >> some of the words are the anthem is white supremacist. . >> you think the national anthem is racist? >> the anthem has white supremacist worlds. >> but it's also a nation with
ideals that worn down injustices over time, and people have died under that flag for those ideals. >> i understand, my father and grandfather among those that served. >> you can have opinions about policing, but don't disrespect the flag. >> so to take a knee and respectfully sit there. he is not turning his back, he is not burning it or dragging it through the dirt. what is disrespectful? >> it takes two minutes to stand and pay respect to the flag. all the sacrifices. >> why didn't he find it disrespectful for people to be marching and carrying torches and invoking violence and a young woman was killed. he didn't find that disrespectful. he called them fine people. >> that was tone deaf and wrong. >> you're rig, it was. that is the type of debate we are having. why is the president enraged about someone taking a knee at a football game but not enraged by violence. >> i have to put a pause on
this conversation. let me try to put a period with you, mike. colin kaepernick have a job this time next week? i think he will. >> i don't think next week, but maybe in the near future because of this dust up. many of the owners had to acknowledge what the other players are doing. there is a separate football question. does he want to play, is he ready to play? there are all those things. clearly his ability on the field, he is worthy of being on an nfl roster. >> how about the fact that the quarterback play we have seen shows maybe some people at this table could tryout and have a shot. >> it's still early in the season. but there is room from a football standpoint. >> we will see you tonight, sunday night is "football night in america." >> thanks, appreciate it. when we come back, nancy pelosi helped put together a number of deals with president trump, but does she still trust him? can the base of her party let her keep working with him? nancy pelosi joins me next.
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beautiful friendship or a one time only moment. joining me now is nancy pelosi. welcome back to "meet the press." >> good morning. my pleasure to be here. >> before we get to the business side of washington, you represent san francisco, the golden state warriors, collin kaepernick, i know this is more high topic of mind in your district, i imagine i know where you are on the president's comments on this. what would you like him to do if you think he would do it? >> i would like him to do what he said he would do when he ran and was inaugurated to bring people together. he should see this as an opportunity. somebody doing what he did like kaepernick, he said this flag enables me to do this, the anthem enables me to do this, it is about freedom of expression instead of resorting to what he
is doing now. it's unfortunate. i think he is ill advised if advised at all. sports are always been a great unifier. sports and the arts bring america together. it's where we put our differences aside. let's not have the president of the united states do anything but bring people together. >> do you think whether it's the right politics, do you see the political strategy in this? >> well, the -- you gave a lis of the examples of how the president has been explosive of certain divisions in our country when it it comes to race. i would hope that he would transition from that and understand that he has a dichbt responsibility than feeding red meat to his base. he has unclean hands when he comes to this discussion, too, because of what he did after charlottesville and the other examples that you gave.
>> what do you say to the activists on the left that say don't work with him at all. you are working with him. does this give you pause? >> let me just say this, as a speaker, i worked very closely with president bush, what could be worse than taking us in on the basis of a false premise. isn't that one of the worst things to happen in our country. yet, when we could work on him with the biggest energy bill in our country, helping with refundable tax credits for poor families, save lives throughout the world. there's a long list of things we did working together, even though i drastically disagreed with him on the war in iraq. >> so none of this gives you pause about working with president trump? >> it is one by one, one issue at a time. we don't know where the next issue may be.
i believe, as leaders, as an advocate i would say the same thing. as a leader, we have responsibility to find common ground. stand our ground where we can't. we have important things to address. if we can find that path, we should do that. >> i want to into the promise -- tell me what that promise is. what is this compromise bill going to look like in your view? >> we haven't seen the whole bill. what chuck schumer, leader schumer and i, let me call him leader, i'm proud of his leadership. what we agreed with the president on is the basic bill would be the d.r.e.a.m. act. this is a bill introduced and has 200 co-sponsors.
it is a bill that we will take forward and it is the bill that we all support. what was to be determined is if and what there would be in terms of border security. but the essence of the bill is what the president committed. we trust him to honor. >> he committed to a pathway to citizenship for these daca recipients? sz mind you, the path to citizenship is an earned pathway that is way down the road. >> some people think there should be no path at all, permanently cut off. you believe, the president agreed to a pathway to citizen zip with the d.r.e.a.m. act? >> that is what is contained in it, yes. >> you think he will keep his word on this? >> that's what he said. >> what makes you trust him? >> we'll see. we'll see. i trust him on it. i'm concerned about what he might come up with in terms of
border security and the rest of that, but we have said no wall, the d.r.e.a.m. act, no wall and as long as we understand it's the d.r.e.a.m. act and no wall -- >> speaking of the wall, the president, on friday, started describing the wall as the following. there are some parts that are already there. sometimes there will be natural barriers, you don't need a full wall and, oh, by the way, it's see through. if you gave me that definition, i would say it's a fence. does that make you feel better about the wall that is outlining a fence that won't be 2,000 miles? >> no, but i'm more concerned about what they do in terms of enforcement. you know, we have said to them, when we protect the d.r.e.a.m.ers, we don't use them as a target to go after their parents. we want to say the discretion
that you might use in terms of deportation does not use status as a crime. and, if somebody commits a felony or this or that, those are the issues that are more of a concern than his backing off of a wall. we are not supporting a wall. >> okay. if this daca deal does happen the way you describe it -- >> it will. >> what is the next item you think is realistic that you can work with the president on? >> within the immigration piece? >> no. any piece. is it health care? is it tax reform? is there some other thing, infrastructure, what is next. >> i would say infrastructure right from the start. it has never been a bipartisan issue. we always worked together, we worked regionally in terms of people coming together in re regions for different things and
it is absolutely necessary. it creates good paying jobs. we need infrastructure improvement in that way. he's talked about it during the campaign. we don't want it to be a tax break for some friends disguised as an infrastructure. >> that is something you're going to the table with him on this for, too? >> i think we have a great deal of common ground there. >> daca before the end of the calendar year? before christmas? >> we have to. i think so, we have that path. i would like to see it in the next few weeks but certainly before we leave. >> democratic leader, nancy pelosi, thanks for coming in. >> my pleasure, appreciate it. >> the national anthem has been played at the first nfl game of the day, it's in london , by the way. we'll show you what the players did. the at ally, we're doing digital financial services right. but if that's not enough, we have 7500 allys looking out for one thing, you. call in the next ten minutes to save on... and if that's not enough, we'll look after your every dollar. put down the phone. and if that's not enough, we'll look after your every cent.
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there has been no time for it to really amass public support. the same thing happened with the last bill. no one owned it, no one was amassing support for it. this is not a way to pass a bill that needs major support. >> you're trying to reflect your community as editorial page editor, are people -- i'm outraged about obamacare, don't get rid of obamacare. is that what we have come to, don't change it, it's like the public is sending mixed signals. >> in michigan, we were a state that embraced the medicaid expansion. 700,000 people have signed up, and that raises the cost, considerably. a lot of those people will say i'm against obamacare. there is a lot of misunderstanding for people
about how it works. then you have middle class people in mitigating circumstances whose premiums have gone up or they cannot afford coverage anymore saying this made it worse for me. so you have people all over the map, and i feel like congress is sort of manipulating that for political purposes as opposed to coming up for a solution that does not walk us off of the clip. it also deals with the rise in premiums. >> and rand paul came after you and national review. first, his ask to become a yes vote seems unrealistic. isn't it the entire point? >> it's a centerpiece of the bill. for me his reaction was a good sign that editorial landed. one of the great ironies is the
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we always knew -- it took us 18 months, almost two years, to get it done through a very public process. politically that was very difficult. but we always knew when it passed it would be difficult to undo it. there are very few good options on health care. >> i think your point is being proven. >> we also knew that once people were on it, and polling shows this, are fixes needed? absolutely. but they don't want to throw it out or start over. they want us to come together and find ways to make it better. >> unfortunately we're so way out of time. we didn't even get to the alabama senate. but finally we spent a lot of time last week in the u.s. virgin islands talking about the damage of hurricane irma, now this week, hurricane maria has happened. if you want to help your fellow americans in puerto rico, these are the four charities that have a top four star rating to aid
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