tv The Last Word With Lawrence O Donnell MSNBC September 28, 2017 7:00pm-8:00pm PDT
that's what part of what we're trying to figure out. very hard to figure this stuff out. greg holman, thank you. i appreciate you being here. >> thank you. that does it for us tonight. tell you. this inaugural committee thing is -- it doesn't keep me up at night but when i wake up at night for other more worthy reasons it is the second or third thing i think about every single night. we're going to figure it out. we'll see you again tomorrow. now "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." good evening. >> good evening. you know what you left there. >> what do you mean? >> there's hooks there, how am i supposed to -- something more worthy than -- but the inauguration fund awakens you at night. >> i would just say that -- >> question mark. >> a, i have a bad back soly that's what wakes me up. i work on stuff i like to keep secret and i sometimes lie about that to make people think i'm more interesting than i am.
>> all right. we'll leave it there for tv anyway and leave it right there. rachel. >> thank you, lawrence. >> thank you, rachel. well, it finally happened. even "fox & friends" dumbfounded by donald trump. we'll show you that historic moment as it happened this morning on "fox & friends." today is only day of the trump tax cut crusade and one of the key players in the trump tax cut crusade is already skeptical about the trump tax proposal. any guesses who that might be? we're going to give you about a minute, maybe more to tweet us your guesses about who on team trump is already skeptical of the trump tax cut and the one hint that i can give you is the last name begins with a "t." >> tax reform is going to make health care look like a piece of
cake. >> the most beautiful piece of chocolate cake that you have ever seen. >> there's not a table in here. it's unbelievable. they don't have the numbers. >> this is not a -- again, a tax reform. it's a tax giveaway's the the no a tax cut for the rich. >> the idea that the rich don't benefit from this is patently false. >> there's middle class families with a tax increase under this plan, right? >> there's an exception to every rule. >> that's a yes? >> i can't guarantee anything. >> this is shambolic. >> another big trickle down tax cut. >> a middle class con job. >> something very special. >> we are at day two of president trump's massive tax cut crusade. that's the phrase for it. massive tax cuts. and already two republican roadblocks have appeared in the senate and one very serious
speed bump has appeared in the white house itself. today, mike allen and jonathan swan at axios revealing the biggest doubter in the trump tax plan is donald trump. axios reports on monday republicans on the hill genuinely uneasy and thought there was a chance potus wouldn't sign off. the president had spotted something that he really did not like in the tax plan that was actually written by the republican congressional leadership. and the president was right. he is right to be worried about something that the congressional leadership apparently is not worried about. axios reports trump was also attuned to the political risks of raising the bottom rate from 10% to 12%. while cutting the top individual tax rate. and this is something i talked about here on the program last night. this raising of the bottom rate.
the trump tax plan cuts every income tax rate except the bottom tax rate. not cutting the bottom tax rate along with the other rates would be politically problematic enough but the republican plan that president trump is now the front man for does something much worse than that. it actually raises the bottom tax rate from 10% to 12%. that's a 2 percentage point bracket increase for the people who can least afford to pay income taxes while the people who can most afford to pay income taxes get a 4.6 percentage point bracket reduction. the bracket reduction for the rich is more than double the bracket increase for the poorest income tax filers. is donald trump really the only republican who knows how bad that looks? or, is donald trump just the
first republican in washington to recognize how bad that looks, and how bad that policy actually is? it wasn't always this way for republicans. when president george w. bush did his deficit exploding tax cuts, he included the political master stroke of cutting the bottom tax bracket the most. president george w. bush cut the bottom tax rate from 15% to 10%. five full percentage points. and so, in the years after that, when you heard the democrats railing against the damage the bush tax cuts did to the deficit and the debt and when the democrats got their chance during the obama presidency to restore the clinton tax rates under which the economy thrived in the 1990s, the democrats never considered restoring the bottom clinton tax rate of 15%. the democrats weren't going to
touch that 10% rate at the bottom. created by george w. bush. the democrats wanted the top rates to go back to the clinton levels but never that bottom rate. it seems like elementary politics to understand you don't want to be the party caught raising the bottom income tax rate. donald trump knew none of that tax history, of course. but his political instincts were good enough to know that raising the bottom tax rate is a very, very bad idea. but in order to help the taxpayers who the trump tax bill is trying to help, you have to take something away from other taxpayers and trying to cut the corporate tax rate by a whopping 15% and when you're trying to completely eliminate the estate tax for estates over $10 million, you have to take money from someone else to try to pay for that or pay for at least some of that so you can then try to make the claim that this massive tax cut does not spiral the deficit out of control as
massive tax cuts always have in the past. and so, if i van ka trump and her brothers are going to pay zero estate tax on the inheritance, someone else has to pay more in the tax cut and president trump doesn't like where the republicans reached for some of that money and he's right. so congressional republicans are worried. they're very worried about president trump again. axios reports if trump shows the fickleness of repeal and replace championing the house plan then later calling it mean, that could increase the chances the plan sinks with him blaming congress. and so, there we are on day two. with the congressional republicans worrying once again that donald trump can turn on their plan, turn this time on their tax plan or support every element of the tax plan as it's moving through the house of representatives but then when it
gets to the senate tell america that it's mean, that it was mean of the house of representatives to raise the bottom tax bracket or mean to eliminate the deductibility of state and will call taxes and the same thing as a tax increase on the people that deduct state and local and property tax cuts. that's a huge issue for new york, california and passing a tax bill in the house without that you are votes is virtually impossible. if the republicans do manage to get the massive tax cuts bill through the house, two republicans in the senate already made demands that would make it impossible for the massive tax cuts bill to get those senators' votes in the senate. senator bob corker said there's no way that a tax cut bill that adds to the deficit will pass and there's no way that he, bob corker, will vote for it.
there is absolutely no doubt that the trump tax plan that was announced yesterday would massively increase the deficit. which is why some republicans will be changing their tune on the deficit. here's what republican congressman mark walker of north carolina told "the new york times" about the deficit and republican rhetoric about the deficit. it's a great talking point when you have an administration that's democrat led and a little different now that republicans have both houses and the administration. we have seen this before. republicans who ignore the deficit when it's republican legislation that is increasing the deficit. john mccain is taking a similar position on tax cuts to the position he took on the republican health care bills. john mccain said we need to do it in a bipartisan fashion. and if john mccain holds to that principle, then he cannot vote for the trump tax cuts. a bipartisan bill would be a very different bill from the one president trump is pushing now. the democrats would insist it
not increase a deficit and a much smaller corporate tax cut if any at all and the elimination of more corporate tax cuts. the democrats would also insist on preserving the deductibility of state and local taxes and preserving some form of the estate tax, perms a higher threshold, perhaps on all estates above, say, $20 million. that's all negotiable. and, of course, democrats would insist on no increase in the bottom tax bracket and they already know that donald trump is ready to agree with them on that bottom tax bracket. there's always a deal to be done with tax legislation. it is numbers. it can be compromised. there's always a set of compromises to make to achieve real bipartisan tax reform and senators like bob corker and john mccain just might force the republicans to make those compromises. joining us now, jared bernstein, senior fellow at center of
budget priorities and also a msnbc contributor and also joy reid, msnbc national correspondent and host of "a.m. joy" on the weekends here at msnbc. joy, raising the bottom tax rate. i'm telling you, the second i saw it, i went -- you know, because when george w. bush got that right in -- i thought, wow. the republicans have figured out. >> -- yeah. >> this particular piece of the talking points, not now. >> can i say by the way in the earlier poll and who's skeptical, i voted for tiffany. i hope you'll retweet me. it's interesting. donald trump has a way of exposing his party and elements of it that the party had worked for decades to try to hide. right? republicans tried to obscure the idea of a monopoly man party just wants to give the rich everything and hurt the poor and donald trump is exposing them for being that. here you have donald trump who's essentially because he doesn't
know anything kind of captive to the monokl wearing part of the party, the paul ryans of the world who do want to take the tax cut and transfer as much money as possible to the very rich, give all the money to the very rich, get rid of the estate tax and reinstate the futile system and donald trump at least has the decent enough political instinct, a salesman and understands the people selling $40 hats to, not those guys. the people he is selling low rate hotels to, not those guys. he at least understands, wait a minute. if we soak the poor right off the bat we're exposing ourselves as the goldman sachs party. at least he knows that. the sort of funny thing about it is the republicans think they can use donald trump to do the monopoly man thing and have him sell it to the broke people. >> it is what grover norquist said. just to sign it. and, jared bernstein, it should
be remembered none of the current republican congressional leadership on tax policy had any of these jobs when the bush tax cuts were going through as have them now and none of them have experience with any of this. and the president himself being the one to spot that bottom tax rate an say, what are we doing, it's by the way also the simplest thing in the bill to spot. it's not one of the more complicated ones. >> yeah. i've been astounded to hear the commentary coming out of these rookies. so, for example, today, steve munchin, treasury secretary, he didn't just say this tax cut is going to be definite neutral. not encrease the deficit. we have heard that lie already. and i guarantee you as would any other economist on both sides of the aisle not getting paid by the trump administration guarantee you the same thing, of course, the deficit is going do go up if you cut taxes this
deeply. they used to say, no, it is not going to increase the deficit. today mnuchin said not only to pay for the tax cut, a couple of trillion dollars in tax cut, but we are going to end up with a revenue positive outcome. raising another trillion dollars and almost as if they're saying, hmm, you know, we told them that it's not going to cut taxes on the rich and, nlg, that isn't really working. we told them it's deficit neutral. let's see what else we have in our back pocket here. and so, they're just kind of shuffling through the deck to try to sell this thing. i think you and joy are exactly right. trump may not know what the heck he's talking about. doesn't understand tax policy. but boy, he can sniff out the kind of thing that's not going to work with his base and we saw that with health care. it does seem to be morphing in a similar way. the administration tells you, hey everybody, this is going to be great for you. and then the scorekeepers start getting hold of it and looks extremely different. >> you know, i never thought i'd
say this but donald trump is best sales person they have on the tax bill so far. listen to gary cohn in the white house press briefing today telling you whatnot to look at in the tax bill. please, don't look at the details. listen to this. >> the one thing i would beg you all to do is don't look at any one piece. look at the plan, the entirety. that's how we are looking at tax reform. we are looking at it in its entirety. >> joy, don't look at what i have in this hand. just look at what i have in this hand here. please, no details. >> donald trump, he knows he is the guy to go sell this to the base. >> yeah. >> he knows, gary doesn't have to do it. steve is too busy flying the actress wife to sit on the roof of whatever, you know, treasury building he's flying on. he is surrounded by people, who he hired by the way, flying around in corporate jets. >> best people. >> flying around in corporate
jets and could take commercial, using the government jobs to live fabulous lifestyles of the rich and famous. they don't have to sell this in poughkeepsie. they don't have to convince the trump voter this is okay. he has to do that. donald trump understands the republicans say and we know are lies, deficit neutral, a lie. not going to lower taxes on the super rich. a lie. all of these lies, trump has to sell them and since he's a salesman and one thing he's kind of good at, he knows he can't sell that. even he cannot sell that to the base. >> let me tell you -- are you surprised that paul ryan and mitch mcconnell have not been better sales men? >> what can you sell? >> okay. >> the point i wanted the make. what i think gary cohn was talking about there was the middle class. so they say it's not going to cut taxes on the rich. that's patently -- might be the biggest lie of all. get rid of the estate tax.
the estate tax hits the top .2% of estates. you cut the corporate rate, well, who does that help? you get rid of the amt. 31 million for trump according to "the new york times" tonight. but the middle class, now trying to tell you this is going to help the middle class. people are starting now to crunch the numbers. the details are coming out. we don't have all of them yet. we need more and it looks like taxes will actually go up for some middle class families and the reason is that they're getting rid of the personal deduction. the personal exemption. they double the standard deduction and helps a lot of low income family and get rid of the personal exemption $4,000 per person. i won't get into the for aly bits of the code but people figuring out that there are some families, typically with couple of kids in the upper part of the middle class who look like based on what we know so far they get a tax increase. so, yeah. that's the kind of thing you
don't want people looking at. >> steve mnuchin and possibly gary cohn find them testifying to the senate finance committee about this and they are going to get shredded in there. with the way this bill stands right now. and with what they're trying to push right now. we have to leave it there for tonight. jared, thank you very much. really appreciate. coming up, president managed to stump the cast of "fox & friends." just completely flu moxed them for the first time in history. we'll show you that. and the president is complaining that he is not getting enough credit for what he has been doing for puerto rico, of course, he is doing a lot of other things instead like attacking football players. have you any wool? no sir, no sir, some nincompoop stole all my wool sweaters, smart tv and gaming system. luckily, the geico insurance agency recently helped baa baa with renters insurance. everything stolen was replaced.
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on fox news this morning president trump tried to explain where the republican health care bill did not pass the senate. >> the health care bill didn't go down. we have the votes. but reconciliation is a disaster. but as you know, it ends on friday so we don't have enough time because we have one senator a yes vote, a great person, but he is in the hospital. and he's a yes vote. we can't do it by friday. >> for once, even "fox & friends" were dumbfounded. >> i don't know what he means when he says he has the votes, one guy in the hospital. do you? >> no, i don't. especially since no senator is in the hospital. and as all of the republicans in
the senate have admitted, they don't have the votes. the president was also asked about his public dissatisfactions with mitch mcconnell which, of course, made public by the president himself. >> do you still have confidence in mitch mcconnell? >> i do. i've dealt with mitch for a listening time and i think he has to get rid of the filibuster rule. it's a disaster for the republican party because you need 60 votes on most pieces of legislation and they won't get rid of it. they're just making a mistake. >> of course, the republicans did not need 60 votes for the health care bill. they only needed 50 senators to vote for the health care bill and then vice president pence would be allowed to cast the highbreaking vote to pass it but mcconnell's refusal to try to get rid of the fill bust ir rules is one of the reasons that the president portrayed him as weak. ken vogel and peters reporting
that steve bannon and two long time benefactors are putting together a political coalition to ensure that the victory of a republican insurgent in the alabama senate primary this week was just the beginning of the surprises that await the party establishment. the head of the superpac allied with the bannon effort said, quote, our efforts are about replacing the gop establishment. joining us now, ron clain, former chief of staff to vice president joe biden and to president obama and ken vogel, "the new york times" reporter. ken, your report is really extraordinary. it's been inching toward this every day of the trump administration. but there has never been a party in chaos in washington like we are seeing as reported by you tonight in "the times" about this republican party. >> yeah. that's ragt because, lawrence, it is not just mitch mcconnell and donald trump. the establishment and the sort of anti-establishment president.
even the folks who supported trump during the campaign and were kind of leaders of this anti-establishment sentiment, i'm talking about steve bannon, are now suspicious of the president and don't think that he has this america first populist nationalist anti-establishment sort of bearing. they think he's lost that and drifted away from that so they're taking matters into their own hands. they're starting sort of a third prong of this republican party and kay why is that's both anti-establishment and trying to enforce from the right or from the sort of populist nationalist right to keep trump on track and that's potentially going to cause problems for both mcconnell as we'll see if roy moore ends up being the senator from alabama. and also, potentially for donald trump in some of these contested gop primaries where incumbent, republicans in the senate are going to get challenges from this bannon-led coalition. that has the recipe for a real
civil war. >> the pro trump faction in all of this works on the principle that donald trump can never be wrong, can never do anything wrong. therefore, if something goes wrong, someone else has to be blamed and that has been either paul ryan one day or mcconnell on another day. let's listen to the way rush limbaugh talks about this. >> they don't want trump to succeed with his agenda. they can't afford that. i'm not exaggerating here. they can't afford for him to succeed with his agenda. they can't afford it. the lid's blown. the gig is over. the joke is revealed. if an outsider with no prior political experience can come in and fix messes that people have been promised would be fixed for 30 years, how does that make them look? they can't allow that to happen. >> the striking thing about the media defenders of donald trump and his agenda is there is no trump agenda. he has simply adopted the
republican party's agenda in the congress with a flourish hee or there about a wall and a travel ban. what is rush limbaugh talking about? >> no idea nor does rush know what he's talking about? trump every other day says it's up to the republicans in congress to deliver this bill. i'm supposed to sign the stuff showing up. and, you know, the problem they have is, lawrence, you worked on the issues on the hill, too. this legislation's hard. it's complicated. requires presidential leadership. you know, president obama called senators and congressmen every hour to get the affordable care act. and before cassidy/graham went down, donald trump tweeted about the nfl. and they're never going to get anything done in this congress if that's the kind of presidential, quote, leadership they see from donald trump. >> and, ken, the people who are talking about going to war with the congressional leadership, the republican establishment, do
they consider that that might actually lead to democratic wins in the house and the senate? >> i don't think they really care. for them it's all about -- >> can we stop you for a second, ken? here's the part. why would they not care? why would it not be at least important to them to prevent the democrats from taking over a senate seat or house seat? >> because they're toward the establishment writ large and they are conservatives so they're sort of most directly able to take on the republican establishment but if their efforts to blow up the republican establishment ultimately hurt republicans and the republican party and help democrats, they would see that as some extent mission accomplished. it is like with the tea party. when you had the folks like christine o'donnell and 2010, sharon angle went down and won republican primaries because they rode a tea party wave and then overwhelming defeat and
sometimes seats thought to be winnable and some of the tea party folks said we'd rather lose with principled candidates than win with the moderates with the rinos an seeing a similar sentiment from a slightly different place on the philosophical spectrum from steve bannon, the mercers and those that feel donald trump drifted from the america first agenda that he laid out during the campaign and i disagree to some extent with ron and you, lawrence, saying there's no agenda. i think he did hit on some themes that were -- that did resonate with people that he's largely abandoned, not complete lie, but largely abandoned because, because of his desire to get a win and thinking that the republican establishment has the best -- best chance of getting a win and he would sign a bill, a health care bill, not sufficiently repeal obamacare because it was a win. obviously, that hasn't worked out but it also hasn't enflamed his base. >> ron, a quick last word here. >> yeah. i mean, he made a lot of promises during the campaign.
ken's right about that. he wasn't serious about them making them. he's not doing the work now and not going to get them done because he doesn't know how. incompetent president we have ever had. i agree with ken, making promises on the campaign trail. >> ron clain and ken vogel, ken, your article tonight describes a party unlike anything we have ever seen in washington. mandatory reading. thank you very much, both of you, really appreciate it. >> thank you, lawrence. >> thank you. coming up, the president defended his attacks on football players today. and, of course, the president managed to at least tweet about puerto rico. hey, you every talk to anybody about your money? yeah, i got some financial guidance a while ago. how'd that go? he kept spelling my name with an 'i' but it's bryan with a 'y.' yeah, since birth. that drives me crazy. yes. it's on all your email. yes. they should know this? yeah. the guy was my brother-in-law. that's ridiculous. well, i happen to know some people. do they listen?
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tonight, in nfl news, the chicago bears and the green bay packers, team members, linked arm in the national anthem before the nfl game in green bay, wisconsin. no player on either team kneeled tonight. today, president trump said this about the nfl. >> the nfl cannot disrespect our country. they cannot disrespect our flag or our national anthem. and they can't have people sitting down or kneeling down during our national anthem. and i saw this a year ago with kaepernick. i said this is a terrible thing. i have so many friends that are owners and they're in a box. i have spoken to a couple of them. they say we are in a situation where we have to do something. i think they're afraid of their players, you want to know the truth and i think it's disgraceful. >> today in the white house press briefing room, reporter april ryan nowhere in the
attempt to clarify whether the president thinks protest has ever been a positive force in this country. >> the nfl players, what we're hearing, not about having not pride. they love this country. what does the president say when you look at history and see how people love this country but wanted to challenge the system to make it better? >> i think if we look at history, look at thousands of americans who have given their life to protect that flag, to protect that anthem. the president is simply talking about what we're for and not about what we're against and certainly this administration will always be for protection and celebration of the flag and the national anthem and that won't change. >> just a follow-up. wait a minute. just to clarify on this. >> i don't think there's much to clarify. i think it was pretty, pretty black and white there. >> people are very divided on this issue. it is a racial issue for some people and the question is, when the military issue is brought in, the military goes and fights
for the freedoms of this nation and the players are saying they're thankful for the military's service to allow them -- >> as we all are. >> to do this. i mean, is there some kind of confusion here or is it us versus them scenario? >> it shouldn't be. as i've said before, this isn't a us versus them. this would be something that brings our country together. these are symbols of what our country stands for and should be the opposite of what this is and a unifying moment when the national anthem plays, all mitt romneys should be proud to stand up, salute that flag, salute that anthem and be part of that process. >> joining the discussion now, tim o'brien and back with us msnbc's joy reid. joy, i haven't heard a bit of evidence that there's anyone working in the white house who thinks that protests in this country has ever been a positive thing. >> no, because i think donald trump sees this from the point of view of the nfl team owners.
right? they should be able to order the players to do what they say and now that we have unpacked a lot of this, we know there's a defense department deal that forced the players to go out on the field for a patriotic display of them and a couple of players who decided to use that moment when they're basically the nfl's being paid to do the patriotic display by the defense department to make a statement, not of the flag of police but blew tallty, the killing of black people by police be impunity. donald trump makes it about him, wrap himself in the flag, well, you know, he had a chance to fight in vietnam and he had deferments and didn't have to fight for the anthem or the flag. donald trump is the wrong person to lecture anybody about their duties to their country. >> tim, you studied donald trump and the family. i haven't found any member of the trump family who's ever served in the military. is that correct? >> that is correct. that is correct. you know, he's very proud of his uncle who did some government
work as a scientist during world war ii. that's about the extent of it. sarah sanders said in the press conference, i think this is a very black and white issue. and on the whole nfl debate. i think she is right. it is. the president keeps trying to make this about the flag. and patriotism. when what's really at play mean ear in play since the charlottesville protest, the president historically has been a profound and fairly flagrant race baiter. goes back to the family's record with discriminating against people of color in their housing projects. we get the central park jogger case in the late '80s when he, you know, basin vaded an issue and baited people racially so he could be part of that. it continued in news campaign. we saw it after charlottesville and again last friday and i think what he is trying to do now is say it's about the flag, military service, patriotism and he stepped in it and kobe bryant
and others were, hold our beer. >> joy, he seems to relish every one of the questions every time he comes up and eager to talk about it. >> because he understands that the base that he's talking to, who are the only people, be honest, donald trump is not talking to the country, not president of the united states. he's the president of one third of the voting population of the united states and one third of one half of the adult population of the united states and only talking to them and he understands that that trigger, especially since it's a racial trigger, only goes after the black espn reporter, the black football players he has this thing because he understands that there's a part of his base, not all of his base, a part of his base that wants to say those entitled, rich, black athletes needs to shut up and entertain me, get out on the field and rub up and down the field and entertain me while i sit and watch the anthem eating doritos and stand up and perform patriotism because i said so, because the owners said so. and he know that is there's a
part of his base that has that racial grievance that donald trump shares and been using to elevate himself since the 1980s. he's doing it on purpose because that's part of who he is and he knows that it makes his base happy. >> and the owners flnt a box. he keeps saying they're in a box. they're not. s some stood up and said we believe in the right to express themselves and we'll support that. nothing wrong with it. he's saying they're in a box because he' petrified. >> joy, does he do the math that you just did and the stuff he is talking about is aimed at one third of the voters? and does he understand how many more voters he needs in order to actually get re-elected if that's what he wants to do? how much more voter support he needs if, say, he wants to pass a tax bill? >> i think he see it is universe
as two groups of people. people that love donald trump and everybody else and none of those people matter and donald trump is laser focused on whoever loves trump because that's who he's selling $40 hats to, that's who he's selling the gold cards texting out buy a gold card with my face on it and marketing to. donald trump is a marketer. he's selling things to one particular group of people and that's the only people that he cares about. >> and, tim, this would make perfect sense to me as a trump strategy if you show me the poll of 51% support. if he had 51% support and he was never doing a thing to try to change any minds, i would go, okay. that could work. >> and, and, you know, his base isn't just the post industrial working class white voter. he also pulled in affluent republicans who i think he's starting to shred, starting to lose -- we'll know in the midterms and playing with fire around this. i don't think he's ever actually cared about electoral math. he cares about his ego. >> to your point, joy, how this
is perceived, quinnipiac poll, trump's handling of race relations, approve, 32%. disapprove, 62%. and that approve of 32% is worth staring at. that's right around where donald trump's support number is now, 32%, 35%. >> yeah. he got elected, remember, donald trump became president with about that level of support. so in his experience, being tremendously unpopular with the vast majority of americans doesn't matter and he won't admit that he got into office because he had a leg up with the help from the russians and external factors. he thinks the power of his personality gets him over the finish line and i don't think he does math or care. >> tim, the public, of course, overwhelmingly believes that no player should be fired. donald trump says they should be fired. and he makes these declarations that i don't -- obviously, he doesn't understand what presidential language is supposed to be and saying they cannot do this.
they cannot do this. no, yes, they can. that's kind of the point. it's one thing for you to say i don't like it when they do that but it's the president saying they cannot do this. >> well, you know, he came to washington i think with a great misconception that everyone's going to step and fetch it. any number of issues, public protests or health care bill through, and the great education of donald trump is that no matter how much he shake it is rattle in the playpen, he is not getting his way. >> tim o'brien and joy reid, thank you for joining us tonight. really appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up, the president's finally worried about puerto rico. but he mostly seems to be worried about the media coverage of his response to the crisis in puerto rico.
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fairly. today, riian that who has twice as many followers on twitter as president trump tweeted at the president saying, dear donald trump, i know you've probably already seen this but i just wanted to make sure. don't let your people die like this. and, of course, citizens of prr are citizens of the united states. today, the trump administration finally waived the jones act allowing foreign ships to deliver food, water and supplies, something president trump did immediately in the aftermath of hurricane harvey in texas and hurricane irma in florida. and tom boss cert, the homeland security adviser asked about the slow response. >> why has it taken eight days to get three-star general on the ground to start organizing this? we know the island situation. why eight days? it didn't ever require a
three-star general eight days ago. >> speaking to reporters outside the white house, responding to questions regarding her satisfaction level with the government's response to hurricane maria. >> i am very satisfied. i know it's a hard storm to recover from. but the amount of progress that's been made and i really would appreciate any support that we get. i know it is really a good news story in terms of our ability to reach people and the limited number of deaths that have taken place in such a devastating hurricane. >> so for the acting homeland security secretary, puerto rico is a good news story. as you just heard her say. while "the new york daily news" calls it an american tragedy. we'll speak with reporters in puerto rico and get an assessment, next.
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so far, the people from fema here on the island, they're doing what they can. but we need more resources. and the president has to send much more resources. this is not going to be resolved with a waiver of the jones act. send people here. send the military here. send heavy equipment to open our roads, to clean our roads. send more resources so we can distribute all these goods to the people of puerto rico.
>> puerto rico's shipping harbor are now open and there are thousands of containers filled with supplies. but the problem is now getting all of those supplies to the people who need them. msnbc's mariana atense yo joins us live from san juan. and mariana, what are the problems they're facing now with trying to move those containers? >> reporter: lawrence, so as we were watching these long lines of people all over the island, they kept telling us, the supplies are here, they're just not getting to us. so we went to the port ourselves to check it out. and immediately we saw these thousands of containers with those life-saving supplies at the port. we spoke to the vice president of crowley, a company that handles almost half of the operations on the ports on the island. this man, whose sound byte you just played on the show, he said, listen, first of all, we
don't have the drivers to be able to take the supplies to the people of puerto rico. secondly, the infrastructure of the island is completely devastated. thirdly, there is a problem with cell signal. 90% of puerto rico does not have any cell phone reception. fourth, you have a problem with access to fuel. it's almost what i've been calling the perfect storm after the storm. you can just imagine how frustrating it is to know that that fuel, that medicine, that building material, that gas that people need is just sitting there at the port, stranded since saturday. thousands of containers. and they're not being able to be moved for the people of puerto rico. i also checked up with him later after the white house said that that wasn't really the information that they were handling. and they said that they had seen some movement, but that only today, according to quality, 250 of those containers had been moved. 250 out of thousands. and then finally, jose, the vice
president of this company, told me, mariana, the people of puerto rico they're not any different than the people who suffered during harvey and during hurricane irma. i want to play that sound byte for you, lawrence, right now. >> he is our president as well. and we deserve the same attention and the same support that everybody else in the mainland. >> reporter: i wanted to hear the other sides to the story as well. i contacted the coms person of the port, this is a government person, nothing to do with this company, and he said the same thing, for them it's the drivers. only 20% of them have reported to work. >> tonight's "last word" is next. d.
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we have breaking news tonight from politico about jared kushner and ivanka trump's e-mails. the white house has launched an internal investigation about private e-mail use for official business by white house staff. including jared kushner, and ivanka trump. politico reports that many white house lawyers were surprised by the news. several white house officials were using private e-mail. and other white house officials were infuriated by those reports.
that no doubt means general kelly, the new white house chief of staff. there are also reports that jared kushner did not tell the senate intelligence committee about his use of private e-mails. even when he met with that committee. that could create serious problems for jared kushner. this afternoon, chairman richard burr and mark warner sent a letter to jared kushner's defense lawyer asking why the committee learned about this through the news media instead from jared kushner himself when he spoke to the committee. "the 11th hour with brian williams" starts now. tonight, president trump on defense. the white house fights back from criticism on its hurricane response on tax reform. and the private air travel of his cabinet. speaking of which, there is more new reporting tonight on more travel by secretary tom price.