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that's going to do it for this hour of our special broadcasting here in las vegas. i'm stephanie rhule. >> i'm ali velshi. for now we hand it over to chris jansen. >> great to see you both. sad it's under these circumstances. good morning, everyone. i am chris jansen live in las vegas. we're continuing our live coverage of the deadliest mass shooting in u.s. history. police today looking for clues analyzing evidence looking for an answer to the question on everyone's mind. why did a wealthy man with no criminal record, no social media imprint, no signs of mental illness carry out an attack that killed 59 people and injured 527
more? let's get started. >> makeshift memorials popping up on the las vegas strip. people sharing prayers and tears at vigils across the city. made harder to fathom because of the lack of apparent motive. >> i am not aware of any derogatory information at this point. >> apparently left no clues. >> reporter: overnight fbi agents seen searching the 32nd floor of the mandalay bay hotel. >> as investigators search for a motive, all points to a suspect prepared to carry out maximum carnage. >> 23 gun from the room were taken including assault rifles and rifles equipped with scopes. >> the home was an arsenal. inside authorities say they found 19 firearms, explosives, and thousands of rounds of ammunition. >> semi-assault weapons and ammo are legal in nevada.
but converting to a fully automatic are against the law. >> police are interested in interviewing his girlfriend. marilou danley. >> they want to know if she did anything to prepare him. >> he has no history of violence in any way, shape, or form. nobody is going to say he is a normal guy. this is a single guy who gambled. >> this demented soul, he should rot in hell. >> we are dealing with a very sick individual. >> it was unbelievable how many people came in to help out that weren't working. >> it was one of the most beautiful things i've seen inside of a tragedy, the way people came together. >> never got their names. i owe them my life. >> and i decided i'm not going to leave anybody behind. i didn't want to die here. i mean -- >> there he is.
hey, man. thanks, buddy. >> of course. >> appreciate it. >> it's good to have those moments. the kindness of strangers. but this morning in las vegas as we said, there is one major question that everyone wants answered. what drove 64-year-old stephen paddock to open fire on the crowd at the country music festival? we know he liked to gamble with large sums of money. fbi agents searched paddock's hotel suite at the mandalay bay resort where police say he fired with high powered reps from two windows he smashed out with a hammer. police now say they found 23 weapons and several hundred rounds of ammunition in that room. officials also say they found 19 more weapons and thousands more rounds of ammunition in paddock's home in mesquite,
texas. i'm sorry, mesquite, nevada. his younger brother in florida and his neighbors in mesquite say he showed no warning signs ahead of the deadliest mass shooting in modern history. >> it really rocks your world in this small, very quiet, loving community. you do not expect something like this to happen. >> my wife and i both, we were in tears. we were in shock. >> something happened in his head that the steve i knew two weeks ago is no longer the guy who did that. >> this morning a portrait of stephen paddock is emerging. he was we know a wealthy real estate developer. he owned an apartment complex. his brother says he was a multimillionaire. he had no criminal record. he did have a pilot's license, a
hunting license, and he loved to gamble. nbc's steve patterson joins us now from near the shooting scene here in las vegas. what can you tell us? this is a guy who as i understand it was known around casinos in las vegas. what they know as a high roller. >> reporter: yeah. he was definitely known as a high stakes roller. first i want to give you a perspective of where we are. we're right along side the crime scene. you can see the caution tape. police holding the scene as they continue their investigation. as we move forward here, there are a number of barricades here beyond this point a few feet over is that route 91 venue where those 22,000 people were packed in when stephen paddock was up above in the 32nd floor of the mandalay bay hotel. i can see the hotel from my perspective. one of the haunting things is you can see the little black dot. that's the room where he fired down upon his victims. as you said and to answer your question, known as a high roller, this is a guy that would
as you mentioned gamble $10,000, $20,000, $30,000 in one sitting. so obviously the casinos knew him well. unknown, though, if those transactions were wins or losses. but we do know those $10,000, $20,000, $30,000 transactions happened in recent weeks. >> what about the woman he's living with? the reports are about whether or not she's coming back? what do we know? >> reporter: it's a little loose. this is a 62-year-old marilou danley. she was named as a person of interest when this investigation started. police were scouring looking for her. and it was because she was overseas reportedly in japan heading towards the philippines on a vacation. police detectives did get to her at some point and had enough
conversation with her to clear her from being a person of interest. yesterday they were able to make some contact in some way. although obviously i think they'd like to have a deeper conversation. apparently he used her id to check into that hotel. so that was the reason she was listed as a person of interest. and they live together. apparently in mesquite, you know, they had a home together. they would go to the same bar together. it sounded like they had a normal life there. that's the reporting that's come from friends and family and neighbors. >> a lot of details emerging. one of them is he sued a casino after he slipped and fell? >> reporter: 2011 there's video of this. he's walking from the stores in the casinos to high rollers area. he slips. he's treated for whatever injuries he has. but in 2012 he decides to sue for that slip and fall injury.
sues for about $100,000 initially. 2014 loses that lawsuit. in fact, as he's firing down on this crowd on monday morning, this was he owed $270 in court fees still from that lawsuit. so he lost the lawsuit and still owed court fees in this case. >> steve patterson, thank you for that. we want to talk now more a little bit more about the weapons. 42 in all according to officials here. 23 of them that he had in that 32nd floor room at the mandalay bay hotel. the rest found in his home in mesquite. there were also thousands of rounds of ammunition. there were explosives. some more chemicals found in his car. let's go to pete williams who has been following this aspect of the story from the very beginning. what do we know about these weapons? do we know what was used? do we know how they may or may not have been modified, pete?
>> we know a fair amount about them now. 23 as you say. most of them were ar-15 type assault-type weapons. some of them were -- a couple of them were high powered sniper rifles that have bipods on the front legs that fold out from the front of the rifle to help whoever is firing it steady it. but in terms of the assault-type weapons, one of the big questions here has been how was he able to get them? essentially fire like a machine gun to put out a high number of rounds. you listen to these recordings. i'm going to pause for a moment. apparently that's a pause on the tape as well. but you hear the gunfire happening very rapidly. normally an assault rifle or a high-powered rifle like this, you fire it, it fires a bullet once every time the trigger is bulled. but if you apply something called a bump stock, then the recoil of the rifle essentially
pulls the trigger the next time after you start it. so it allows it to fire extremely rapidly. like an automatic weapon. and we're told my law enforcement authorities that stephen paddock bought two of these bump stocks and we believe he had them attached to one of these weapons. now, whether he used them each time, simply it's detached from one and put onto another. whether he used them each time or whether he had additional modifications on other weapons that would allow them to be fired like an automatic weapon, we don't know that yet. it appears the answer to at least part of the question is the bump stocks. >> we keep having all of these puzzles that he doesn't fit a particular profile. one of the puzzling things and i'm just looking at that hotel behind me, pete. i'm imagining the 32nd floor. i'm trying to figure out how someone who no one has indicated was in any way a gun enthusiast
could inflict the kind of carnage that we saw. is it that easy even if you aren't highly trained to do what he did? >> well, i think the sad answer to that question is, yes, it doesn't require any degree of accuracy. if you just sort of point the weapon in the general direction, you're not trying to hit a small target from -- he's probably roughly 500 yards away at that point from the people on the ground. but he's just sort of, if you will, spraying bullets over a wide area. it doesn't require any particular accuracy. because the people are compacted together. so i think the answer to that question is no, it doesn't. now, if he did modify the weapons internally, that requires a little more specialization. but in terms of firing them, i think the answer to that question is no. he seemed to have a familiarity with firearms because he did have so many of them. >> pete williams, thank you for that update.
in the meantime, there is a heart breaking task going on right now as officials are working around the clock to try to identify the victims and of course notify members of their families. the clark county coroner's office is actually working 24 hours around the clock at a facility inside the las vegas convention center as a way to gather information. they're trying to speed up the process. and several more victims were identified this morning. including a mom from massachusetts and a wrestling coach from pennsylvania. joining us now, nbc ease jo ling ke kent. i want to talk to you more about the victims but that difficult task going on inside the convention center. do we have a sense of how it's going? >> well, it continues to move forward as you reported. that process is an arduous one. what we're seeing in the community is a response from the family members, the extended family members, the classmates of these victims and what they have gone to do in addition to commemorating them on social media and gathering at vigils
which we visited last night. we're also seeing action and some of these family members are donating blood and getting in these lines standing for six to seven, even twelve hours yesterday to donate blood. we spoke to the cousin of one of the victims, a 20-year-old man that was shot in the chest. his cousin spoke to us at a blood donation center. this is how he remembers his beloved cousin. >> he was a good guy. i loved quinton. he was a very popular kid around school and around town. it's amazing how many people are praying for him. it just kind of shows the person that he was. just shows that he was a very loving person. >> reporter: that is the overwhelming sense here at the university medical center. this is the level one trauma center that took in so many of the patients several of whom died here or on the way to the hospital. but family members and the entire community trying to find a way to get back at this point and process some of those very
difficult feelings. >> jo ling kent, thank you for that. of course we continue to learn more stories about people who literally ran for their lives trying to get out of the way of that hail of bullets. one group of people ran into a freezer to hide led by musician brian hopkins who actually was at the front of the stage when that shooting broke out. he made this video. take a look. >> not sure what's going on out there. we're in the ice cooler right now. some sort of shooting or something at jason aldean concert. >> and bryan joins me now live. thank you so much for being here. how you doing? >> i'm fine. i apologize for the glasses, i've been up since sunday morning when the concert started. >> no sleep. >> no sleep. i think it's important to be doing this. you guys are out here reporting.
so anything we can do to help. >> you want people to know this story. >> exactly. >> well, let's start at the beginning. you're at a concert. you're a musician. you're having a great time. everybody i've talked to who was there said it was a fantastic festival. >> it was the best. it was the best. well, ben my guitar player and i had moved up from the backstage area and that's important that i tell you that because we were coming from the back, we sneak in and i see two girls that i had met the day before and took pictures with, snuck in behind them and we were being fan boys. this is what's going on. jason aldean's on stage. he's one of the best. so we're singing along. you've heard the routine. it's two, three times thinking it's fire crackers or something audio maybe it's pyro going wrong. then when we heard the pop pop pop pop pop, you knew that jason
takes off running backwards and i see a guy go down about -- he's about six feet, seven feet in front of me. he goes down. >> clearly shot. >> yeah. next guy goes down next to him. when i turn, boom, boom, two girls go down right behind us. so ben grabs my shoulder and tells me, run. i grab the two girls in front of me and i pull them. ben starts running for a friend's wife jojo who's local here. local deejay. and he's running for his wife. gets knocked down, loses her, gets up, just runs. because we're hearing this, right? >> but how do you even know where to run? >> that's exactly it. he's running to where the bodies are -- where everybody's running to. we played here before. we were the first ones to play it. so i knew when the people were running this way, behind the makeshift building is a fence. there's nowhere to go. so i grabbed the two girls and anybody who would follow me
backstage. we run through a backstage opening. so i clear it first. then we start running up and there's thousands of people on this side of the wall. there's -- i don't know, 12 of us running this direction. and we're hearing this. and i'm hearing metal. it's hitting the top of the stage. you can hear it hitting the top of the stage, hits the pavement around us. i'm like it's okay, it's okay, it's okay. stay calm. it's okay. we get around the catering area. it's a fence. it's this high. i can jump that fence. i can get over. i have the girls, the other girls that are with me. they're panicking. so the next move is i see a -- it's a trailer. and so i see it partly opened.
there's some bodies in there. there's people in there. so i open it up and i start throwing people inside the canister. and then i jump in and then there's other people running up. so we're letting them in. they're getting inside. and we hide. and what happened was that feeling of now we're just waiting. are there people running around shooting? are they just going to open up the door? >> is that what you thought? >> that's exactly what i was thinking. >> you could be sitting ducks. >> we could be giving it to them. so i'm trying to keep everybody calm. the video i'm making, i'm making that for my parents. and there was a guy, he was drunk and he thinks he's going to take on the world and he's pounding on the walls. and he's putting his fingers in front of my video. and then i just stop. >> but you're making a video for your parents because? >> because if i am going to die, it'll be in my pocket. this will be for my family.
and so he stops me so i think it's better to do this. stop him and say, hey, look. the girl was hysterical on the ground veem kring is his girlfriend or his wife. i said she's with you. he said yes. i said, do you think it's fair that these two young girls, they're 23 and 24, both nicoles, are consoling her trying to get her to calm down. is that fair? and he goes no. and he starts to help. so now it's getting peaceful. now it's getting quiet. i get up, i go to the door. i open up the door a little bit -- shut the door. so now -- and i look at a friend of mine, it's toad and i said we're going to be okay. he goes, no we're not. i'm like, yeah, we are. i don't know how many minutes in, we're freezing. because we're in a freezer. it's cold. so i'm, like, thinking to myself, this is not how i'm supposed to go. i'm going to -- we're going
to -- it's fight or flight kind of thing. so i go to the doors again. i grab toad and ask him to come to the doors. and if we don't hear anything, we're opening up these doors. it's silent. it goes open. and what we see is somebody had put a metal ramp, it's a table of some sort that's angled up on the -- to the fence, right? so when that happened, one guy jumps, hits the ramp, jumps over the fence, gone. the next guy does it and i ask him, please, stay there. don't move. we got to get these people out of here. so now i'm pulling people down. then i run around to the other side and start -- because it's metal. can't get up with their shoes, pushing them getting them up and over. until it came down to the very last two, the two nicoles. they never left my side. they trusted me. they said -- i said stay calm, they stayed with me. but they're trying to get up,
can't get them up. and it's getting scarier. it's taking too long. i grab her and as soon as i grab her, i'm like, we're going to run. and i'm thinking running this way which is what i thought, where the artist entrance was, where it was for me. a police officer -- and i'll never forget it because he runs up and screams to me, this way. and he's sweating -- >> the only reason i'm keeping a jacket on is for consistency. so i wouldn't mind turning on the ac if you don't mind -- >> -- where everything was happening. where everybody else was in here. >> i'm going to end it on that note. that there is another act of heroism and yours as well for helping all of those people. bryan, we are glad you're okay. >> thank you. >> we're glad all the people with you are okay. you take care. >> thank you. >> we appreciate it. well, stand by, everyone. president trump is set to arrive
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we've had such a response from around the country and even from around the world. certainly in our community. the outpouring of how can i help, what can i do, trhis tragedy. and we're leaving it to law enforcement and the legal aspects to investigate who this individual was. we're all about the victims and how all these people that have been stricken down by the gunfire and we're attending this wonderful event here could have such a horrible outcome. >> that's the mayor of las vegas carolyn goodman speaking here earlier on msnbc going on to say that e the city is so grateful to its law enforcement, first responders, and medical staff for their heroic actions in the wake of sunday night's horrific attack. i'd like to bring in greg kasell, he's the fire chief of clark county who led the
response efforts along with the sheriff. you've described this as war, as a battlefield. what did you, what did your first responders find when they went into those concert grounds? >> well, it was essentially a battlefield. this is something we respond to shootings and car wrecks and things of that nature that are tra tranlic events. however, this one the sheer magnitude of the people, the massive amounts of gunfire, it was a battleground. >> when you look at the number, the total number of people who were killed and hurt, it's almost 600. it's hard to even process for me as a number for you as someone who was seeing it, could you believe what you were seeing? >> no. it was pretty much a nightmare scenario for us. we train for a lot of things and integration for ground based events. shooters and building shooters that have happened all over the country. this was a much different thing than we had imagined. >> we heard from a musician who was trying to escape.
they were in a freezer for awhile. he said when they tried to leave there, it was a police officer who guided them to get them to safety. we keep hearing these stories over and over and over about how under the most horrific circumstances, the people who came there to help did it. tell me what you saw, what you learned about the people who worked for you. >> what i'm very proud of, our fellow fire departments in the surrounding cities. we've trained together and prepared for events. nothing like this. but we prepared for events. the other thing i'm proud of is the city and community of las vegas. people were pushing people down the street in wheelbarrows. there were people, the support of the people in the area was amazing. >> the thing about incidents like this is that training kicks in. dedication kicks in. but then reality also sets in.
this is their homes. this is where they live. this is where their families live. how are the people of the department doing? >> many were very somber. much different tone, the way they talked, the way they looked. just their body language was different yesterday. so they've been off for a day or two or will be by tomorrow. to make sure the mental well being of our officers. we had several that were there, that were fleeing. you know, fortunately as an organization, we didn't lose anybody even to a single significant injury let alone a minor injury. we're blessed in that respect. but we have wounds to heal. >> are you set up to help those who need it within your own organization? >> yes. not in this magnitude, so we're
bringing in a crisis team, different volunteer groups that deal with crisis management, crisis counseling. we're loading the gun up, so to speak, so our people have what they need to do this. >> unfortunately there are other departments in other city who is have experience with this. are you concerned about prktsd? >> yeah. we're concerned about a lot of these things that could be long range aspects. >> well, chief, all of us are in awe of the work that the first responders did. again, in situations like this when they run toward the bullets and not away from them. and do the extraordinary things they did to save lives. our thanks to you. we appreciate your time and our best to them as they continue their work. >> thank you. >> appreciate you coming over. now, this morning officials are looking into -- well, actually, we are now looking at half past the hour this morning as officials are looking into the shooter's final days and hours as they search if ar possible
motive. now, we do know things about a timeline right now. las vegas metro police confirming that stephen paddock checked into the mandalay bay last thursday, september 28th. he carried his guns to his hotel room bringing ten suitcases. he spent three days in las vegas before the shooting began. on sunday, october 1st, 10:08 p.m. las vegas time, the first call was made reporting gunfire at the music festival. he smashed the windows in his room firing into the crowd across the street as jason aldean performed. paddock had 23 guns in his hotel room. at least two of them used bump stocks. that's a modification that can convert semiautomatic weapons to automeatic. he brought many guns knowing they could overheat. after the shooter's location was determined, police worked their way up from the 29th floor locating paddock in room 135 on the 32nd floor.
at 11:20 p.m. las vegas time, they breached the door. >> we're going to hit on the suspect's door. i need everybody in that hallway to be aware of it and get back. see if he's in here or if he's actually moved somewhere else. >> all units on the 32nd floor, s.w.a.t. has explosive breach. everyone in the hall way needs to move back. all units move back. >> breach breach breach. >> well, after they breached that door, paddock was found dead of a self-inflicted gunshot wound one hour and twelve minutes after the first call. now police are trying to figure out why the 64-year-old opened fire at that concert. for more on what authorities will be looking at, i want to bring in nbc news intelligence and national security reporting ken delaney. we had a briefing last night. they talked about the different locations, where they have been able to gather evidence. what can you tell us about this investigation at this stage? >> that's right.
and at that briefing, they noted that they had searched the suspect's home in reno in northwest nevada. they seemed to suggest they pulled out information that could be relevant to motive. but they weren't prepared to discuss it at this time. so we're waiting for that. as you said, motive is the big question here. why did he do it? and especially because his profile is so different from what we've seen before with mass shooters. generally with mass shooters, a day or two after the fact, we see some evidence of alienation, mental illness. there are people along the way who saw signs. in this case we're not seeing any of that. what we're seeing is a prosperous 64-year-old man who apparently was making his living as a professional gambler who may have been worth $2 million according to his family who lied in a retirement home with pilots licenses, taking vacations. seemed to be living the american dream. and we see no evidence of a criminal record, no evidence of extremism. so it's -- you know, it's a huge mystery why he did this. the other big question, of
course, is the weaponry. go ahead, chris. >> yeah. that's exactly right. i was going to ask you. because nobody that we talked to seem to say he was a gun enthusiast. yet he did this bump stock or had someone do it, that's also a possibility. how does that change a weapon, ken? >> this is a really important factor. there's still some unanswered questions about this. pete williams has confirmed that the authorities believe he purchased two bump stocks. they have not said officially that he used them in the attack. but a bump stock is a device that would modify a semiautomatic rifle to allow it to fire rapidly mimicking an automatic weapon. it doesn't technically make it a machine gun and that's why it's legal. machine guns are banned since 1986. so this bump stock is a device that harnessing the energy of the recoil of the rifle that allows the gun to essentially fire itself at a faster pace than a human being could pull the trigger. if he was using those, that
could explain the rapid fire pace we all heard on those horrific tapes. there's going to be an analysis on whether that played a role in so many casualties because he was pouring fire on the crowd. there's also a debate about why these things are legal and whether they should be banned. >> ken delaney, thank you for that. up next, we're breaking down those ten minutes of horror in las vegas and we'll hear more stories of survival from that terrible night as well as new details about the victims. stay with us. we're live in las vegas. >> i was trying to run towards wherever i thought he might be. this man wouldn't let me. he kept pulling me away. said you can't run towards the gunfire. he has a shirt with a gunshot through it. he sat on a lot of bombs, never blew him up. >> if afghanistan. >> in afghanistan. and he was a proud american.
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>> providing cpr, providing tourniquets, holding pressure. >> you just saw bodies and you run to them checking pulses, breathing, people giving cpr. >> there's a mother was the last one i put inside of an ambulance. she got shot in the arm and in the leg. unfortunately it got both major arteries. she's fighting for her life. >> good samaritans like them helped to save countless lives. i'd like to bring in todd bileven who headed back into the concert venue after getting his group out safely. it's a pleasure to talk with you. i'm so glad your family is okay. how did you get them out of there? >> first, we're all still shaken up over this, but once the gunfire happened, you know, everybody went down on the ground. i noticed that the gunfire was coming from up above, but we
also thought someone was shooting from the inside. and so we started -- i grabbed everybody and we started running off towards the food trucks where i knew there was some coverage there. and had noticed that there was some people that had been shot in that area as well. you know, you're just constantly trying to find an exit and safety and trying to find police or somebody that's going to be able to protect you from this gunfire. you don't know where it's coming from. we ended up finding an exit off to the right. i looked at my wife and my brother-in-law and his wife and i said let's go. get your wife, we're running out of here. we were able to get to a squad car that was right outside the east side exit away from mandalay bay. and i got my wife and my brother-in-law behind the car and i said, listen. joe, i said you need to get my wife out of here. you need to get your wife out of here. i'm going back in.
i've got to go help those people. and he looked at me and they weren't happy about it, but they went ahead and took off. i went back in. >> what, todd, made you want to do that? i understand you're a former minor league baseball player. you have no medical training. what compelled you to run back to the danger? >> i just had to. you know, i had two arms, i had two legs. i hadn't been shot. i was healthy and i knew people were in danger. i just needed to go back and help wherever i could. you know, i helped pull a young girl out. she was lifeless. i'm sitting there thinking, you know, that could be my daughter. and i just -- you know, to sit there and know that there are other dads and moms that are hearing this over the news or friends calling them and scared for their family members or
friends' safety. i had to go in because if it was me, i would want someone to come get me or go get my wife or my kids. i just had to do whatever i could do. >> you said and understandably so that you're all still shaken by this. i can't even imagine. and i'm just wondering if you can describe even put into words the scene that you saw unfolding when you went back in there. >> i heard someone describe it as a war zone and really that's what it was. not coming from a military background or anything, it was like being in a horrific war movie, but it was real. and you're at a country concert and grandmas and kids are coming out with bullet holes. it was extremely scary. because, again, we didn't know if there was a secondary shooter. so it was just -- it was very,
very scary. bullets were flying everywhere. you're just trying to help people and get out. >> bullets flying, you don't know if there's a second shooter, your own family is safe. but todd, i understand you went in and out ten times. i just wan't to say that i'm deeply moved by your story and i know many other people are. i can only say thank you. thank you for your bravery. thank you for your concern. thank you on behalf, i know, of all the lives you safed. god bless you and your family today. >> god bless and men and women that were at my side and in front of me and behind me that were there to help and do what we can for man kind. horrific event but i felt a sense of pride knowing that there were people with me helping other people. and we came together. we're going to stay strong. >> todd blyleven, thank you so much. you take care. >> thank you. >> and we'll have a lot more
here in vegas in just a moment. but right now i want to turn to andrea mitchell in new york. she's tracking the president's trip to puerto rico. andrea? >> thank you so much, chris. president trump has landed in las vegas, so he'll be in las vegas tomorrow night. but right now we are monitoring his arrival he has landed in puerto rico along with the first lady. joinings now is peter alexander at the white house. mariana atencio in san juan and we'll be joined by tammy leitner. peter, first to you. this is dramatic. he will, we are told, meet with the mayor of san juan, at least join the briefing that is not scheduled to be on camera. but as you know, there's been a lot of friction and on saturday we came out blasting her on twitter from his golf course in new jersey and saying among other things that she had been helpful at first but now not so
much. that -- he wrote on twitter, such poor leadership ability by the mayor of san juan and others there. saying they want everyone to be done for them when it should be a community effort. those comments zbrgrating on pee in san juan and elsewhere because of the conditions there. >> i think you're right. the president is going to survey the damage first hand today. get an opportunity to see the situation there that he has casting as a terrific federal response from afar over the last several days including when he boarded marine one. as we see some of those exiting the plane right now. saying he thought the relief effort, the federal relief effort was just as good as that following the hurricanes in florida and in texas. that he graded as an a-plus. he said among other things that things were really under great
control so far. so to give you a sense of what his schedule looks like today, he does have that briefing. his first stop there at the airport hangar in the capital of san juan. the mayor will be in attendance as well as the governor who's been leading up much of the relief efforts on the ground. we are told he's going to be boarding marine one for an aerial tour where he will get a better understanding of what things look like from the sky. he'll also be landing on board one of the u.s. ships there, the comfort that arrived in recent days from norfolk to help provide relief to that area as you see the president's motorcade pulling up to pick him up for the short drive over to the hangar where the first me meeting will take place. and then another on one of the u.s. ships there to help in the effort in this point. there's really been a disconnect as evidenced by the criticism the president's received between
his comments and the experience of day-to-day puerto ricans on the ground right now. even today as the president prepared to leave, he talked about roads being cleared and that communications were in many cases back up and running just a short time thereafter we heard from the governor of puerto rico saying, in fact, only 40% of puerto ricans right now have access to telecommunications or cell service at this time. as for water, the president's saying a lot of the resources are now being provided that they've done a great job. till 55% of the people who live on that island are still without access to water or sewer. so a long way to go as the president will see for himself in moments from now. >> and as he's about to come down the steps, he's traveling of course with the first lady. tammy leitner is there on the tarmac. that disconnect, even the governor who is much more pro-trump in his political leanings than the mayor, they have different positions on state hood, in fact. but even the governor of puerto
rico as peter alexander was just saying, contradicting the rosy scenario as he was leaving the white house grounds today. so he will either visually get a reality check here or he'll continue to emphasize how well things are going. tammy? >> andrea, yeah. you are correct. the disconnect here is very, very apparent. despite that, the governor of puerto rico is here. he's waiting at the base of the steps for the president to get off air force one. and we're told that he will have his first briefing here. we know the governor is going to be asking the president for an aid package similar to what they received in texas and florida after the hurricanes came through there. and also we spoke with carmen cruz about 30 minutes ago. and unexpectedly she is supposed to be here at the airport. you know there has been a lot of twitter controversy going back
and forth. and i've set with the mayor a number of times since we've been on the ground for two weeks. she accepts the invitation to brief with the briefing with th president here in puerto rico. basically she said, he needs to save lives, and he has been adamant about that message and maintained that same message for the entire time the last two weeks since the hurricane swept through here, and she wants the people of puerto rico to not only save their lives. people are desperate for the basics. what we've seen over the last two weeks have not changed that much. power still out on most of the island, water has been restored to some of the island, sewer has been restored to some of the island, but there are still long lines in grocery stores, for gas. people are driving from communities a couple hours away. i don't know if you can see, but
president trump is getting off the airplane, the governor is there -- >> we can see the president and the first lady coming down the steps being greeted. you've got the governor there and other officials. the mayor, as you point out, and the white house has confirmed, will be meeting with him. that's not expected to be on camera. that's a closed door briefing. but the president and the first lady casually dressed coming down the steps, and they are in san juan at the airport. of course, it's a beautiful day but the weather there now has been no indicator of what the people here -- there -- have suffered. and the president is going to have to get a real briefing. one of the issues is the comfort. that navy ship, many critics say, even though it had to be stocked and sent, there was plenty of warning of what was about to hit san juan, tammy, and the fact is it did not set sail until a few days ago and arrived, i believe, today. tammy? >> reporter: andrea, you're
correct. i can also tell you being on the ground here, we've seen fema supplies come in. just yesterday they had a whole barge of supplies coming in to try to get some of the more remote areas of the island. while the supplies are here, they're trying to get them out, i can tell after traveling around the island, there are so many people that are desperate that still need food and water, so the supplies aren't getting to them quick enough, if you ask anybody on the ground here, andrea. >> that was one of the big problems bewe were all pointing out with reports by you and your colleagues down there, that there were literally thousands of ship containers still sitting on the tarmac at that airport and unable to be moved because they didn't have airlift. because we didn't have the military, the numbers of military. and while the president has praised the military and the first responders, they are not there proportionately in the numbers that were in both texas and florida, and those were a lot easier rescue missions and
recovery missions than this island which has been soo b so beleaguered. you've been witness as well as tammy, gabe gutierrez. let's see if we hear something the president may be saying. >> you can see that -- or hear that he's exchanging pleasantries. the camera is freezing and the cell service there and other communication still very, very difficult for everyone on the ground as well as our own
coverage crews, and that's the white house coverage crew. mariana, i was about to ask you about the bottlenecks that you were reporting on on thursday and friday and over the weekend. >> reporter: that's exactly right, andrea. and that was told to us by the company that is in charge of 25% of the port operations. we were able to see what they said were thousands of containers with supplies. over the weekend i was also able to go to what they were calling these regional distribution centers, and i went to one in saba. that's the eastern part of the island. the state national guard told me that regional distribution center services more than 200,000 people including two satellite islands that i was also able to visit with lieutenant general jeffrey buchanan. they told me that the port national guard there, that distribution center got no
supplies. it was in documents they showed us, no supplies on day nine after the hurricane last friday. so that just speaks to the fact that the recovery, especially for the areas outside san juan, getting people those supplies that they're desperately waiting in line for is much slower than what people here are expecting and expect being u.s. citizens. i want to talk to amanda here who has been waiting in this atm line about your expectation. president trump coming here 12 days in. do you expect things to change? what is your expectation? >> i don't really expect anything from donald trump. donald trump thinks that we want to get everything from the states for nothing, and he has to remember that we are american citizens, and we just received help from u.s., late help.
>> you thi >> reporter: you think the help was too late to come in, that he was too late to come in. >> i hope the president of north korea don't see the united states reacting the way they are doing in puerto rico, because they're going to laugh at trump. >> reporter: thank you so much. and this lady was also -- thank you so much, amanda. she was also telling me that things are up and running somewhat in san juan, but still, they need a lot of help, they need a lot of supplies. they don't expect much from this visit. let's see if donald trump is able to change those optics today when he also meets with the mayor of san juan. back to you, andrea. >> obviously emotions are very raw there in san juan and the rest of puerto rico in the way they've suffered, and it's completely understandable. robert acosta is also with us today because a lot of people are saying that the president, in his first trip to texas, did not meet with any of the people
who had been affected by the floods, then really repaired that when he and the first lady went back and he and fema did very well with texas and florida when the florida storm was not as bad as they had feared. but then this response to puerto rico seems so late. he's been days talking and tweeting about the nfl and not even one tweet about puerto rico for at least the first five days, six days. so, robert, is this repair a damage collision? >> you have a president under intense scrutiny, just for the president's own leadership. how does he handle moment by moment, hour by hour, all of these crises that arrive on his desk.
it hit so many presidents in the past in their first term, natural disasters, war. how do they respond when a lot of things get piled up? even though he got some high marks for how he handled those first few hurricanes, puerto rico has been more of a debate on capitol hill and here in washington. >> this brings us, if peter alexander is still there in the white house, it brings us to one of the criticisms has been, especially in this case, a lack of empathy, a lack of understanding and the way he went after the mayor. there are political differences between the mayor and the governor. she's an interesting character. she was educated in boston and other u.s. schools. she worked in corporate america, in the u.s. she is a liberal left politician in contrast to the governor. she's against statehood because she believes statehood for puerto rico would be just buying into what she considers the slave mentality. but she's become a real fighter and a symbol -- this is her second term -- a symbol if
fighting for the people and very popular in the midst of this tragedy. peter? >> reporter: in the eyes of the president's critics, an undesirable spot to pick another fight, in effect. even if you were hearing from the mayor of san juan being fiercely critical of the government response, basically saying she was afraid that her people were dying. critics of the president i this is a moment where empathy should have been the proper response, perhaps not criticism. in return you talked about the tweets. there were 20 tweets over the course of this weekend which was, in effect, a combative weekend from this president when there seemed to be so many other things he could be pointing out. andrea? >> thanks to peter alexander, tammy leitner and marian mariana atencio. the president is going to have a tour. we don't know how much we'll see of any of this. back to chris jansing in las vegas with the latest in las
vegas on the continuing tragedy and the aftermath, of course, and the investigation. chris? >> andrea, thank you. it is the top of the hour, and the las vegas mass shooting and the search for the reason why. we have more information on what the gunman was doing in the days and weeks leading up to the worst mass shooting in american history. investigators are combing through anything they can get to find out why 64-year-old stephen paddock shot and killed 59 people. and what do we know about the woman who may have been the last person to talk to him before the massacre. and the people who took their last breath at that concert and the mayopeople who risked theirs. the president spokeut