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elementary school to kill people or a movie theater or here, this person was stark mad by the time he was looking out the window. >> don't go anywhere. lawrence will be here right back in one hour to host a live "the 11th hour" with brian williams is next. tonight the president in the disaster zone. president trump visiting puerto rico, displaying a unique style of distributing relief supply and telling puerto ricans they threw the budge out of whack and fared better than others. "the 11th hour" on a tuesday night begins now. well, good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. day 257 of the trump administration and in a matter
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of hours shortly after sunrise the president will leave the white house for las vegas. on that front, new information on the man behind the deadliest mass shooting in modern american history, including his last several hours alive. multi- senior law enforcement officials are telling nbc news stephen paddock made some big bets just in the past couple weeks and told he wired $100,000 to an account in the philippines. that's where his live-in girl friend is from. police are unable to confirm that money transfer, however. much more on the investigation ahead on the broadcast. today the president flew to puerto rico, two weeks now after hurricane maria tore up that island. less than half the population has power or sewer. despite all of that, fully aware
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of the criticism that the federal response has been less than robust, that it fell behind early on and has yet to catch up, the president said tonight he heard only thank yous during his trip, which he described as lovely. he's on the ground for about four and a half hours and left an hour earlier than he was scheduled to. the trip was not without its highly uncomfortable moments and unusual comments from an american president who had traveled there to comfort and reassure his fellow americans. we've strong together some of the more indelible moments from today. >> flashlights, you don't need them anymore. i hate to tell you, puerto rico, but you've thrown our budget a little out of whack because we've spent a lot of money on puerto rico and that's fine.
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but if you look at a real catastrophe like katrina and you look at the tremendous -- hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people that died and you look at what happened here with really a storm that was just totally overpowering, nobody's ever seen anything like this, they would go right into the middle of that, i don't know. i wouldn't want to be doing it but i want to thank everybody, i want to thank the coast guard. would you like to say something on behalf of your men and women? >> i'm representing the air force. >> i know that. your governor who has been, who i didn't know, i heard very good things about him, he's not even from my party and he started right at the beginning appreciating what we did. governor, i just want to tell you that right from the beginning this governor did not play politics. he didn't play it at all. he was saying it like it was and he was giving us the highest grades. >> it's not about politics. >> thank you. thank you, everybody.
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>> you put it in dirty water? would you drink it? really? >> sure. >> our leadoff panel, robert costa for "the washington post," moderator of "washington week on pbs," anita kumar and phillip rucker, an msnbc political analyst. phillip, your reaction to what you witnessed today to what we just saw tonight. >> well, it was quite a moment today. president trump had a number of comments there that really i think angered officials and citizens in puerto rico. the mayor of san juan was on msnbc a couple of hours ago saying the president of the miscommunicamis communicaor in chief and took him to task for blaming them for fiscal problems, for putting budget out
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of whack, for saying they should be proud of not having more deaths. this was not the kind of tone for healing that i think some were hoping he would bring to puerto rico. remember, this comes after several days of president trump going after this mayor of san juan, doing a number of tweets in which he has seen to blame some of the problems in the recovery in puerto rico on the territory itself, on the fragility of its infrastructure and electrical grid, on the financial problems they've had, on the struggles of local and state officials there to be able to organize themselves. so it was a really striking moment for this president. >> robert costa, were the qualities you saw on display
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today familiar to you from watching this man? >> the qualities of his presentation go back decades. this was the same president trump, the same donald trump we saw quarrel with new york mayor ed koch, the same brash language, the combative persona, the casual way of approaching situations that are not always so informal. at the same time, in politics style is about 10% of the equation. the bigger questions facing puerto rico is the federal response. is the congress going to appropriate money that it needs? there are bigger questions to ask beyond the president's day trip. is the president going to continue to provide the islands with the aid it needs. it's what of a predictable presence and appearance in this country. >> the mayor of san juan, offended with the scene of the president throwing paper towels into the crowd. >> you mentioned the two sort of things that really stuck out. he talked about the number of deaths and how puerto rico was costing a lot of money but to me pretty much the whole day or all four hours that he was there,
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there was just comment after comment. he talked about what good weather puerto rico has, he talked about his chief of staff, general kelly talk about how great a general he is, he's a four-star general, doesn't get any better than that. it was just a lot of joking around. i think that was a tone deaf way to go around today. you mentioned him throwing the paper towels, like a singer a the a rock show or throwing a football at a football game and it didn't seem serious. you've already see a lot of people say that wasn't the way to go. >> phil rucker, what was the goal today? was it to tick a box? was it to preach fiscal conservatism in the light of a rebuilding effort? what was the stated goal on the part of the white house? >> i think the goal for president trump was to try to
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regain control of a narrative here. there's been a sense in puerto rico and it's come through in the media coverage here on the mainland that this administration has not been forceful and strong enough in responding to help the people of puerto rico who now two weeks later are still struggling to get out of storm, still struggling to get drinking water and electricity. i think the president wasn't to show he had full command of the situation. i was with him in houston right after he had hurricane whateve -- harvey, and the presentation was so different. he was strong and he didn't have any word of criticism for that state or for the problems in that state's recovery at the time. and in puerto rico, there was just hesitation. it didn't feel like he was all in for the territory. >> and, robert, coming off that point that phil just made, what is the chance they have underestimated the damage, the
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impact from not the storm so much as the white house's handling of it? what is the chance that this is going to have a sneaky way of causing a lot of damage to reputations? >> phil made some smart points there, so did anita. i think what we're going to have to watch, brian, is the long-term consequences of this administration's response not only to the crisis in puerto rico but to the crisis in houston and texas and louisiana. we're only beginning to see the rebuildings in these american places and it's important to remember that these are americans on all these front who are struggling. and they're only starting now to recover. how this president returns to
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the island of puerto rico, how he returns to the cities in the southwest, how high helps them rebuild will be as much of a question and an evaluation point as his trips have been in recent weeks. >> anita, this president who has shown that possessing and displaying empathy has been for him a kind of existential challenge now heads to las vegas tomorrow. what to expect in your view? >> i think that he had a good, disciplined message yesterday when he talked about his first remarks after the shooting yesterday morning. and so, you know, it will be -- remains to be seen whether he's going to carry that message. he was reading from a script, from a teleprompter so that was a different situation. tomorrow he's going to see all these bad headlines from his visit today and that he's going to carry with him so it's going to be very difficult for him to stay on track after seeing this bad publicity. we know from all these last eight, nine months that he very much, you know, gets rattled when he sees bad publicity on tv and headlines. so he'll be seeing that. and he's been doing what he's been doing the last week or so about puerto rico, or what twoks, is he's been boastful about the federal response.
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that's not what people want to hear in las vegas about how officials are handling things. it will be very interesting to see what he does. >> and, phil, when he says the things he said today, when he does some of the things he did today, what's the reaction in the circle around him? >> look, i don't think the people around him sort of recognize in that moment as he was doing these things how jarring it might seem when you're sort of watching on television and it's taken together in a whole picture. i think the white house was pleased to get him to puerto rico. i know president trump was eager to get to puerto rico days earlier and it's taken a while
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to logistically make this trip happen, but i think they're also very much looking forward to tomorrow's trip to las vegas, not that it's a good story necessarily, it's a horrific tragedy, but it also an opportunity for trump to be the uniter that he said monday in his scripted remarks at the white house could be. this is a president who spent a lot of the time dividing different elements of the party and pitting constituencies against each other. tomorrow will be an opportunity for him to issue some sort of call for unity and heal these wounds and give the people across the country a reason to admire him for a moment. >> and robert, your expectations for tomorrow? >> i've traveled with president trump to las vegas. he considers it an adopted city, he has his own hotel there. i expect him to speak in probable personal terms about las vegas because to him it is a home of sorts and it's a place that he returns to often and has a comfort level with that he may not have with houston or with puerto rico. >> this was a serious day today but because it's been such a
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deathly serious 24 hours, the stakes in a way change going into tomorrow's trip. great thanks to our initial panel tonight. thank you. coming up, we will now hear the reality on the ground in puerto rico tonight where need and water and electricity are still scarce. a live report just ahead and up next what we're learning about the las vegas gunman and what we know about his final hours. that and more when we continue it's time for our fall sale on the
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almost two days after a gunman fired hundreds of rounds into a las vegas crowd killing 58 people, wounding over 500 others before killing himself, investigators are still providing details of the gunman's life, trying to figure out what led him to commit a massacre. sheriff joseph lombardo of the las vegas metropolitan police department confirmed today that the gunman's girl friend, marilou danly is positionly a -- person of interest in this case. the fbi has been in contact with the government there as they attempt to get her back. the sheriff confirmed the gunman used a legally obtainable device called a bump stock. it max a semiautomatic single who have shot rifle operate like a fully automatic machine gun. police say 12 bump stocks were seen and they released a harrowing compilation of body cam film as they were trying to find out where the shots were coming from. this shows the bravery and
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professionalism under fire that witnesses spoke of all day yesterday. >> gun! get down! go that way! get out of here. go that way! go that way! [ rapid gun fire ] >> at this point they're still
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trying to figure out where the rounds are coming from. >> let's talk about this tonight, ken delanian, national security reporter. ken, first of all, that was battlefield stuff from the parking lot across from mandalay bay. second, let's talk about these bump stocks. we asked you to bring one with you on the air. it uses kind of a spring-loaded, quite simple mechanism to change a single-shot rifle into basically a fully automatic. >> that's absolutely right, brian. i've got one with me here. you can see it looks basically like the stock of a rifle. this would fit on an ak-47. it's made of plastic. it modifies a semiautomatic weapon to make it five as if it's an automatic weapon and it squeezes the trigger much faster than a human being can squeeze the trigger. machine guns have been illegal in this country since 1986, some are grandfathered in, pre1984 -- pre-1986 weapons, they're not
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for sale. but these bump stocks exist for one reason and that's to get around the automatic weapons ban. and it's looking like they are one reason so many people died in this incident. this man was pouring what sealed like automatic weapons fire down on this crowd and he was at the outer range of an assault rifle. experts told me today it not clear he could have killed as many people with a single-shot assault rifle as he able to do by just pouring round and round and round down on to that crowd below, ryan. -- brian. >> and we learned a lot more today about how meticulous he was. he put a camera in a cart in the hallway to let him know when authorities came, he put a camera in a peephole in the door
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of the room to let him no when police were at the door. these were the crime scene pictures that were leaked today showing various weapons. his body is seen on the floor in one of these photos. there is a meticulousness about his preparation. >> these are striking details, brian. this is a high-functioning mass shooter. this was a wealthy individual, a high-stakes gambler. his family is telling us he was essentially making his living at a high-stakes poker player. he bought 47 guns, an arsenal. a lot of money, he sunk a lot of money into this thing, cameras, ammunition, an extremely well pla business, would think nothing of video poker, spending $2,500 to $5,000 per turn. again, approached it like a business. described here as a reserved, non-emotive person. part of your time in the fbi w w asabout the international scene and chasing bad people around the world. tell us about the effort to find the live-in girl friend. and what's the motive, by the way, on the part of the philippines to help us out here? >> first of all, brian, you talk about him and him with the cameras, the precision by which he executed this, how well
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planned it was and former brother-in-law talked about how he approached his gambling, he used algorithms and did everything by the book and by the numbers. everything was very well planned out, just like this particular incident. i want to go back and find out like everybody else was the motivation was. i think that starts in the philippines with the girl friend. we've seen some interviews of a couple of family members. they've not been able to shed much light on this. but the girl friend with some of the reporting that there's been maybe $100,000 wired to her, the fbi has offices around the globe, 70 countries around the world. there's an office in manila.
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the bureau will be working in coordination with the las vegas authorities, with the police in the philippines to help identify her. i'd be very surprised if she's not been interviewed at this point already. they would do that in coordination with philippine authorities but what's important to them is to help to find out if she might have information, including documentation, perhaps some electronic devices, any type of details that might help to shed some light on what this guy's motivation was, what he did what he did and created such devastation for hundreds of people in las vegas. >> something i found interesting, i heard you describe him like this before, a high-functioning mass murderer. does that give you in closer idea on motive, how meticulous he was? >> no. in fact, it makes it more mysterious to me. when you talk to experts about these mass shootings, they will tell you that there is always some trigger in the recent past that they will go to look to, something that went bad in the person's life. we just haven't seen what that is here. was it gambling losses? was it something with the girl friend? and family members don't know. they have nothing to say in that
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fell many about him. and many -- it emerges quickly that these were not right people, they were troubled people that couldn't hold a job. this was a guy who had money, who had means, was living the american dream in many ways. that's what's so remarkable. >> sean, what do you make of this so far?
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in fact, it makes it more mysterious to me. when you talk to experts about these mass shootings, they will tell you that there is always some trigger in the recent past that they will go to look to, something that went bad in the person's life. we just haven't seen what that is here. was it gambling losses? was it something with the girl friend? and family members don't know. they have nothing to say in that fell many about him. and many -- it emerges quickly that these were not right people, they were troubled people that couldn't hold a job. this was a guy who had money, who had means, was living the american dream in many ways. that's what's so remarkable. >> sean, what do you make of this so far? i know i'm asking you to speculate but because you've been around cases like this, what do you make of what we know about this guy who didn't leave much of a trace during his time on earth. >> well, i'd disagree a little bit with ken. i agree with much of what he
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said on how high functioning he was. ken just said he lived kind of a regular, ordinary life. there's something in that guy's past we don't know about. i listened to his brothers talk and say who sold him the machine gun? the guy's got 42 guns. clearly he's missing something. he accumulated these guns over a long period of time. he's traveled internationally. the brother-in-law said he traveled to the philippines periodically and met with his girl friend's family there. so there are pieces that are missing. this will all -- las vegas is probably the most widely coveredcy in the country in terms of video. we will see where he was, who he may have met with and what he did in the days leading up to this particular incident.
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i think there's a lot more holes here and we will find out as this very long continues what was in this guy's past that caused this to happen, brian. >> really interesting conversation. when you think about it, we actually know a lot for how few hours have passed since this awful crime. ken delanian, thank you both so much. is the reality in puerto rico tonight different than what the president saw during his four-plus hour visit today? we'll have a live report from there when our broadcast continues.
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been, who i didn't know, he's not even from my party and he's been unbelievable. this has been the toughest one. this has been a category 5 hitting land but it hit land. boy did it hit land. i want to thank elaine. elaine, thank you very. fantastic, acting secretary. tom bossert's here someplace. tom, great job. great job. and to all of my people right from the beginning this governor did not play politics. he didn't play it at all. he was saying it like it was and he was giving us the highest grades. >> a lot of praise today for his own administration from the
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president who at one point asked to hear it back from an elected official. the self-congratulations point came as he was going to tour the island of puerto rico. the administration has been criticized for its slow fed response. millions still remain without power, clean water and food. tammy has seen the devastation first hand. it's been so long i've been able to talk to you. we have seen reports here on the mainland, there are puerto ricans who is yet to have been discovered by relief crews, puerto ricans who have yet to find out about their loved one, who are going to bed hungry and thirsty and with medical needs not near attended to. any or all of that true?
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>> everything that you just said, brian, is true. i personally have received hundreds of tweets and e-mails asking me to go check on their loved one. there really is very little communication across the island. we vent to the via pommeris neighborhood, gone. we want to another area and the main bridge was washed away. people were getting across the river by using a rope and were stringing food across where people could not cross the
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river. we've been to communities that is covered in several feet of mud. these are communities where they are still making rescues. up until the last 24 hours, we've been talking with rescuers. they're still trying to make their way to remote islands where they don't know if people are safe or if they need to be rescued. >> have you yet seen air drops over that country? blackhawk crews, if they made 100 palate drops in a day of food, water, a generator here or there to 100 affected -- >> wine, this is what i can tell you we've seen. we've been out with the marines, woef been out with the national guard. we've seen them fly in supplies to various communities.
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but what they're doing is they're flying in supplies and dropping them off and then they're leaving. so what's happening is these supplies are not getting there's a large part of this island that have no idea that the president visited today because they have no tvs, no power to washington tv. no cell phone communication, they are essentially cut off from rest of the world very few ways of making a living now on the island of puerto rico. >> the people that we've spoken with, they're saying that if things don't turn around and change within a month, within
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two months, they will leave. i mean, we're talking about people that are not able to go to work because they can't put gas in their car. because they can't put food on their table. there are people driving in from communities that are two hours outside of san juan because they don't have a grocery store in their community. so this-the-come here to the grocery store to buy one day's worth of food because they don't have re fridge rateors, they don't have stoves, don't have power in their homes. the grocery store shelves are bare. they don't have refrigerated items at the port just yesterday and sneh these are supplies that are supposed to be getting to restaurants. they're just sitting at the port, not getting out. >> the army transportation corps
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is full of truck drivers. the problem there has been many of the truck kriefrs are -- many of the roads are blocked. when you militarize a crisis like this, it's right in the sweet spot of what the u.s. armed forces do so develop well. they move a lot of people and. >> i tell tell you -- while fema supplies are getting out there. we have soon them going out. >> tammy leitner worked closely following your work and by all the members of our team there. we know it difficult work by day and at night. thank you so very much for joining us live tonight. correspondent tammy lighter in with the president heading
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to las vegas just hours from now, the headlines are out tonight concerning his visit to puerto rico today.
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the "new york times" says "trump lobs praise and paper towels to puerto rico storm victims." "the washington post," trump says "puerto rico officials should be proud more haven't died like this katrina." and "politico" trump brings message to puerto rico trip, visit is a disaster." >> it's a collective view about how the president did not adhere to the political norms we see in these tragic disasterous
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situation. there's going -- adhere to the kind of norms we usually see in mass shootings and mass tragedy. >> anita, no part of him wanted a debate over gun control and he's going to have a debate over gun control and it comes up on occasion in this country after a tragedy like this , and seen here endorsing a silencer product for guns. >> you got to be kidding to me. >> i think it's awesome.
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it's about safety. it's about hearing protection. it's a health issue, frankly, for me. getting little kids into the game. it greatly reduces re -- it's just a great instrument. there's nothing bad about it at all. it makes total sense. it's where we should be going. >> you heard there it's a health issue. we heard the speaker of the house today say the silencer bill that would legalize them has not been scheduled, which usually means it's dead. but this is part of the background tomorrow. >> i'm not sure that it's president trump has been asked several questions already, the white house has been asked several questions about gun control and the white house pushes back and anyone who asks that question already in the last two days is playing politics the other side of course says they're playingle politics. so this is going to go on.
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this happens lfr this so just going to go on. people will ask him questions tomorrow so he will get these questions. >> and, robert, is this a discomfort with the president has to days? he was best and largely ehackettth. now the job has presented him
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with all these different challenges. he now has a dedicated disaster jacket. the media wants to talk about gun control. there's tax reform out there and infrastructure, all these things. >> the president's going to have to pick his priorities right now. he faces so many of those challenges. you mention whether he's going to deal with the undocumented young people who are here in this krish the millions of them. the 800,000 who are here and the millions of other undocumented immigrantser here. could he cut a deal with the democrats hike he as signaled? >> the republicans are unwilling to have a background check. the president is an outsider so there is always the possibility
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that an outsider moe is nottethered to the ideology could be someone to track a deal but we just haven't seen it executed in any real way. we've seen talk of a deal, talk of bipartisannd about d when it comes to gun control, things aren't moving?
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>> thank you for staying around for our lightning round. coming up, one of the unique tasks of the president, pulling the country through tragedy.
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we'll talk about that when we continue. one of the most important roles for any president is consoling a nation during times of uncertainty and tragedy. throughout history americans have turned to their presidents and they have stepped up to lead after tragic events. >> let us teach our children that the god of comfort is also the god of righteousness. those who trouble their own house will inherit the wind. justice will prevail. >> i can hear you. the rest of the world hears you and the people -- [ cheers and applause ] amazing grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me >> let's talk about moments
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like those with pulitzer prize-winning author and presidential his torian john meacham, msnbc contributor. about those clips. there's the people around the presidents in that moment who know they've just witnessed something. the man who is mouthing scripture with bill clinton. the hard hats on the pile with george w. bush. and the men in robes who look up at a singing president of the united states. they get up out of flex. you could have knocked them over with a feth where barack obama started that. genuine moments. challenge, leadership, and men stepping up. put it in context with the president's trip today and his task tomorrow. >> you know, i was thinking all did, that remark of mrs. obama's last years are, that the president doesn't change who you are, it magnifies who you are. in many ways in president clinton's case, april of 1995 after the oklahoma city bombing, in many ways he became president at that point. he'd had a disastrous first couple of years. i think it's inarguable that george w. bush standing in that rubble with the innocent still around him who had fallen on that -- what he call the day of fire became president, in many
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ways, on that friday in september. president obama, i remember watching that moment live and being -- my breath was taken away by it. president reagan, who comforted the marine families after the attacks in beirut. you know, there are these moments where character and history intersect. and i think what we saw today is a president who's less a president and more of a showman. i think the tossing of the paper towels, the have a good time remarks. they're the things you say at a beauty pageant or at the opening of a golf course, at a ribbon-cutting. this is what he's done his whole life, his whole adult life. he's a promoter. he's not a consoler. and i think that that deficit of empathy is something that his
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supporters say, we're just piling on, but it bells. it tells. character will out. and i think that many of us hoped that president trump would grow in office. and i think that we've had now nine months or so of being frustrated, hoping for something that has not come to pass. >> in 60 seconds of brilliance, are we judging him by a different standard, different set of grades? >> no. no we're not. you just showed the record. this is not a bunch of liberal yapping. it's is record. the only thing franklin roosevelt said in public on d-day, 1944, was to read a prayer of his own composition. lyndon johnson went to new orleans and walked around with a flashlight and said, "this is your president, and i'm here to help." they don't get it right all the time, these are human beings, they're imperfect. but character and history do intersect. and that's the nature of this
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job. do we expect too much of presidents? perhaps. but we expect a certain level of empathy, a certain level of reassurance from the chief constitutional officer of the executive branch. and we're not getting that. >> john mvp meacham, thank you so much.
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the last thing before we go tonight, it's an image that may stick around awhile. those pictures of donald trump's unique three-point shot style of distributing storm relief today in san juan. while no two disasters are alike and no two presidents are alike, the video does illustrate an enormous break from presidential style in the past. one of the benchmark examples often cited is hurricane betsy, johnson took a flashlight, shined it into his face, and said, "my name is lyndon baines johnson, i am your president, i am here to make sure you have the help you need."
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by the time johnson left that night he had put the entire weight of the federal government behind the rebuilding effort and he had left behind generations of louisianans who were always grateful to him for showing that he cared and then proving it with a massive federal effort. a page from history to bring an end to our broadcast for tonight. good night, john meacham. thank you for being with us and good night from nbc news headquarters in new york.
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♪ breaking overnight -- marilou danley, the girlfriend of las vegas shooter stephen paddock returns to the united states. she was seen being escorted by fbi agents. although unclear where she was taken. >> all of this as we're searching for a motive, learning more about the gunman and cameras placed around the room. and president trump with the criticism of a slow response of his administration. good morning, everyone. it's wednesday, october 4th i'm ayman mohyeldin alongside yasmin

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